The biggest Zelda speedrunning scandals

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @amia7z
    @amia7z Рік тому +68

    speedrunning drama is literally just "hypercock69 used the banned peepoo skip, only available on the n64 by punching the cartridge, making it unfair for virtual console users. this was called out by epicmtdick420 who showed evidence that hypercock's run was 5 frames faster than one that didn't use the infamous skip"

    • @riseevil7131
      @riseevil7131 Рік тому +11

      Best analogy ever x'D
      And it's 100% true what you said about that said drama.

    • @Sacred_Korok69
      @Sacred_Korok69 Рік тому +5

      Bro those names are amazing😂 i know theyre fake but still, amazing

    • @morphstarchangeling8024
      @morphstarchangeling8024 Рік тому +1

      Then there's "I played on unmodified donkey kong arcade cabinet." while the background video shows them loading up a donkey kong jr motherboard into a donkey kong arcade cabinet.

  • @tesha6132
    @tesha6132 Рік тому +31

    This is why I got the ancient horse bridle and ancient horse saddle.... you whistle anywhere and the horse wearing it, so long as it's outside the stable, will teleport to you in horse approved areas.

    • @Sacred_Korok69
      @Sacred_Korok69 Рік тому +10

      I am sad that this set didnt make it into TotK... or a zonai set for the horse, that wouldve been awesome! Just imagine a horse gear with horns for the head and dragon spikes on the back (except for where the saddle is of course, we wouldnt want to Impale our hero lol)

  • @Dylan-vs6sf
    @Dylan-vs6sf Рік тому +14

    The ACE exhibit was an 100% original and no modifications were done before they started
    ACE is just that insane when it comes to what you can do with it. They used controller inputs to write Assembly code, which then ran. Eventualy they wrote programs that made it so the controller inputs were data which they they used to send packets instead of code themselves. Which is what was used to get everything in the run
    Nothing was done that wasn't theoretically possible for a human, though the human would have to be superhumanly fast.

  • @swiftbristle
    @swiftbristle Рік тому +13

    MorePatterrz, you can make the horse like you faster just by dropping a few apples on the ground for them so it will completely listen to you when riding and you dont have to go through the painful process of soothing them.

  • @SamLugo
    @SamLugo Рік тому +61

    I don't really see the point of horses in a game where you can make a flying machine out of green goo.

    • @tararosabelle7368
      @tararosabelle7368 Рік тому +8

      CAUSE THEYRE CUTE I love horses :3

    • @edoyuki1030
      @edoyuki1030 Рік тому

      And honey

    • @Sacred_Korok69
      @Sacred_Korok69 Рік тому +5

      I do love to ride around on horses. Cuz they have personality and (on land) are still the fastest transport option. Whats a Zelda game without a horse? Epona is like a mascot at this point lol

    • @saberruntv
      @saberruntv Рік тому +3

      Environment building continuation they were useful in botw if you don't use glitch to travel. It would have been weird to remove the horses from totk

    • @GarroshTV
      @GarroshTV Рік тому +3

      Horses follow roads and its fun to start riding, taking a shower and come back to find yourself at the end of the world (:

  • @JustinWPruett
    @JustinWPruett Рік тому +14

    That TOTK horse rant is an all time great Patterrz moment. And he’s right, every single word. Amazing.

  • @gamefacierglitches
    @gamefacierglitches Рік тому +19

    Can we make lagrunning a category?
    You have to "speedrun" the game while taking as long as possible. Every action MUST be making progression through the main story (no stalling).

    • @GarroshTV
      @GarroshTV Рік тому +1

      I think that could be very complicated.
      What would be considered Stalling?
      If you use the duplicate glitch and create, lets say, 7 diamonds although you only use 6, is it stalling?
      I know you don't need diamonds in the speedrun, its just an example

    • @gamefacierglitches
      @gamefacierglitches Рік тому +1

      @@GarroshTV In that case since only 6 diamonds are needed: if the 7th came with the 6th then yes that's fine, but if you went for a 7th after getting a 6th than that would be "stalling the speedrun" (considered the same as getting a 30th after getting the 6th).
      Yes, would be a complex category as you need full knowledge of a speedrun. Games where there is a linear story (ex: most LoZ & Mario games) would work better than an open option game with an end goal (ex: Minecraft & somewhat BotW).

    • @gamefacierglitches
      @gamefacierglitches Рік тому

      @@GarroshTV This is somewhat a "glitchless Low%" speedrun but slow. A good example is OoT. There are glitches to make completing the game go faster, but are not necessary to progress. So the "intended way" may be the most optimal path. As well there are extra items you do not need (Farore's wind, Fire/Ice Arrows, 3 of the 4 bottles, capacity upgrades, EVEN EPONA!!!).

    • @Happy_spider_boi
      @Happy_spider_boi Рік тому

      Pbg made this idea in sm64 hacking already

  • @darkrai2007
    @darkrai2007 Рік тому +2

    The thing is the ACE part seems more like what ACE can do, than actually what was hidden or partially removed from OoT. It's amazing that using that software and the dedication you can basically add mods to old games on original hardware of which upto now was seemingly impossible without removing the original hardware and using an emulator.

  • @enzoforgets9456
    @enzoforgets9456 Рік тому +1

    When she tears on my kingdom til i pull out my master sword

  • @KeiranTrick
    @KeiranTrick Рік тому

    You hit the nail on the head when talking about GDQ. That's exactly why I enjoy watching GDQ/SGDQ runs, to listen to the runner share their passion and expertise~

  • @lotrdude13
    @lotrdude13 Рік тому +5

    French and/or German is the quickest language in BOTW (one dethroned the other, I don't remember which currently is the fastest)

  • @andrewsanders17
    @andrewsanders17 Рік тому +1

    I believe the IQ original run was low like 100k and flopped pretty quick either just before a second run or a low ~3k and by the video it had been 15 years and tech fall down and wear out causing supply to drop. It is also difficult to replicate the system since there is no blueprint easily accessible.

  • @robertkovarna8294
    @robertkovarna8294 Рік тому +12

    N64 can handle pre-rendered cutscenes. It could play RE 2 after all. Sure, they were crunched down a bit as well as the quality of the games backgrounds. But all of RE 2 did fit on an N64 cart.

    • @JamienautMark2
      @JamienautMark2 Рік тому +4

      It’s more so that it couldn’t hold enough to run them uncompressed. That’s why RE2 took up less screen space.

    • @robertkovarna8294
      @robertkovarna8294 Рік тому +1

      @@JamienautMark2 Still. The N64 could handled it as RE 2 showed. You just had to compress them a lot.

  • @jb0258
    @jb0258 Рік тому +10

    I'm with you on the horses. Even in BoTW I very rarely used them, and in ToTK there's really just no reason to whatsoever

    • @0potion
      @0potion Рік тому

      In breath of the wild I only started using a horse after I got the ancient bridle and saddle. I'm more than a little upset it didn't make it into tears of the kingdom. Because there are times where I would really just not want to waste Zone eye devices when I can go a little ways on a horse.

  • @MrMeowstic7
    @MrMeowstic7 Рік тому +4

    Have you tried feeding your horse to increase your bond?

  • @saintwumples4403
    @saintwumples4403 Рік тому +1

    In Breath of the Wild Horses are especially useless since you get a motorcycle which is faster and controls better. Plus you don’t have to worry about its death

  • @linkkling
    @linkkling Рік тому

    that casual hyaah at the start with no facial movement was incredible

  • @ryanrevell6475
    @ryanrevell6475 Рік тому +1

    Totk comes out
    Me: time to play my first Zelda game, breath of the wild!

  • @goldmemberpb
    @goldmemberpb Рік тому +2

    You can just shoot a wild horse with an ice arrow and just kepping tapping A near it. When it thaws, you should ride it. Way easier than sneaking.

  • @NotThatAxl
    @NotThatAxl Рік тому +3

    From stream gonna love this❤

  • @blankfacesuk988
    @blankfacesuk988 Рік тому

    I cannot think where I can place you from, I am sure I have met you before. Any I love the content and can't stop watching haha

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW Рік тому

    “I feel like you use a fake live chat” he says while watching live where he can check on accounts

  • @Roman_the_black_cat
    @Roman_the_black_cat Рік тому

    1:50 i know this one, the cutscenrs rubble is random ehich causes difference in lag inside the svene whoch adds or removes time randomly.
    im sure you know this since its a vid not a future stream😂

  • @sky8ash
    @sky8ash Рік тому

    After watching the DougDoug VOD of an AI beating Pajama Sam, the intro sounded excatly like the AI

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 Рік тому +2

    Just have different categories for the different consoles if they have such a big difference

  • @MrSonicHedgehog
    @MrSonicHedgehog Рік тому

    Patterz, thank you so much for your viewpoint on genning Pokemon. No one should really give a shit these days with all the available software to just build competitive versions of our favorites
    Also, I bought a book of NFC cards for BotW and it only cost me $15 for all 24

  • @Sporkguy3
    @Sporkguy3 Рік тому

    The N64 couldn't handle the pre rendered cutscenes because the cartridge lacked space that the PS1 had on the cds

  • @DragonfoxShadow
    @DragonfoxShadow 5 місяців тому

    I have no problem with Amiibos mostly because of Amiibo emulators (and well, I know so many people who made fake amiibo to get the Villagers they want in AC). And the newest one allows to even randomize id of the amiibo, to scan it as many times
    I got it for Animal Crossing too...
    And it also allows me to have up to 50 Amiibos with save function. Like a Amiibo fighters for Smash
    And I'd say it's kinda fair to use something like that if the alternative is to buy 20 of the same Amiibo just to be able to compete in the category

  • @thatonelion4583
    @thatonelion4583 Рік тому

    Damn! Patterz link impresion was so funny

  • @NightRaiderTea
    @NightRaiderTea Рік тому

    Alt title: Patterz rants about Zelda horses for 10 minutes KEKW

  • @abel_da_G
    @abel_da_G Рік тому

    People make nfc cards to make a mass amiibo purchase affordable and easy to travel with. Cards > toys

  • @getshwifty3101
    @getshwifty3101 Рік тому

    Am I the only one that feels like TOTK's base game plays like Master Mode? And the horses definitely buck more? (I had one with 100% bond, and STILL had to soothe it 5 times within 3 minutes.......IN A TOWN.)

  • @SlasherLink119
    @SlasherLink119 Рік тому

    Patterzzz, I legit breed everything, I won't even use another person's competitively bred pokemon, just because I have no way of knowing it was legitimately bred and am even willing to breed them for friends, but I am 100% okay with people who hack pokemon into their games, because at the end of the day, during the actual battles, there's no actual difference besides I was able to find the time to breed all my mons and maybe they weren't...
    Bullying people out of the community for not wanting to deal with RNG is such a stupid thing to do, why would you want less people to play with?...
    Imo, they SHOULDN'T bring hacked mons to official tournaments, because, well, imo, you should follow the rules, plus I love the EV/IV system...But I'd rather people who hacked their mons be there than a much smaller turnout...
    I think it's super fucking annoying when I see people bitching about people who hack pokemon without breaking the in-game legalities...They have good intentions, sometimes (Not Verlisify, if he had good intentions, he wouldn't waste his time reporting people who hack their Animal Crossing Dream Addresses), but they need to step off if they spend more than a few minutes trying to figure out if somebody cheated and they aren't paid to do so...

  • @CaptainB1994
    @CaptainB1994 Рік тому +1

    Badabun wasn't the fastest SMB player he stitched together a whole bunch of bits of various runs including bits from what was at the time the legit fastest run and tried to pass it off as his own, Karl Jobst has a video on it.

  • @Blackfrost-xk8pn
    @Blackfrost-xk8pn Рік тому +1

    22:58 why is that in the search bar lmao

  • @mcsmileycorp
    @mcsmileycorp Рік тому +1

    I hate ocarina of time ace, I understand why they keep it but the runs are way less interesting now that over half the run is cutscenes and the other half is arbitrarily throwing rocks and unloading them, the best oot route imo was when they had to clip out of kokiri forest to get a bottle, but glitching a bottle into the inventory was also fine.
    Ace is short but it's incredibly boring to watch and play.

  • @Skew0443
    @Skew0443 Рік тому

    yeah pat, you are right. the hardware makes a huge difference in run times. thats why if you still speedrun BOTW on a Wii U, you may as well give up.

  • @AznYunHou
    @AznYunHou Рік тому +1

    Oh lawd, Link is in the description?

  • @FuntimeMarcel
    @FuntimeMarcel Рік тому

    Legend has it takes to complete legend of Zelda tears the kingdom the hole game everything in it will take 500hours

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому

    Love your content man!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

  • @morokeivokuun10
    @morokeivokuun10 4 місяці тому

    You saying you dont wanna grind is exactly why every single level based game like pokon and fire emblem (that ive beaten before) i will use cheats for fast levels because i dont wanna spend hours grinding my units

  • @alexanderhadfield8211
    @alexanderhadfield8211 Рік тому

    someone should get this man a real horse (rent it but pretend they just dropped it on him) and say "here, now the horse can't leave ya link!" (sorry if this is dumb)

  • @shadowfan115
    @shadowfan115 Рік тому

    Link does actually speak in the manga and we have evidence he does speak in botw but choose to not

  • @RolyatSille
    @RolyatSille Рік тому +1

    The created Pokémon argument is logistically impossible if you view it from an administrative viewpoint. If it were allowed, then it would be easily abusable while massively bloating verification and authentication efforts. Sure, the honest people will just make their funny shiny Dragonite with legitimate stat distribution. However, there’s nothing stopping a ne’erdowell from modifying that same Dragonite from having an extra few points to their speed to never speed tie or a little extra HP to make the difference between being fair to being unstoppable. So each Pokémon on every team needs to be double checked that each Pokémon has entirely legal stats. Which online competitive, that means developing a full system to verify Pokémon before it being allowed by picking at each number without false positives or any such thing. For in person competitive, that means people picking at each person’s console and hand confirming everything. It’s way too much work for something that doesn’t actually benefit the Pokémon company or competitive tournament holders.

  • @0potion
    @0potion Рік тому

    Well as someone who only pirates things when I can't find it legally for at least OK price. Actually kind of agree with nintendo far too many people are more than happy to just steal a bunch of games And act like nobody's getting hurt. You Might not be able to personally see the damage you're doing but you are hurting these people when you pirate stuff. When I say these people I don't mean the corporation itself I mean there are workers who did nothing wrong. And I'll just go ahead and say I'm glad I had dolphin before they decided to get rid of it. Because as far as I can tell it is the only way to play a lot of older nintendo games now.

    • @Riverbui
      @Riverbui Рік тому +1

      Dolphin's still available on their website, it was just the steam port of it that got DMCA'd.

    • @0potion
      @0potion Рік тому

      ​@@RiverbuiOh OK, I didn't know that all the better then. Because the thing about it is is I'm more than willing to buy a remake as long as it's well made. Like that new advanced wars that came out for the switch that was a port of the 1st 2 gameboy games... I really like those games on the gameboy and a switch port is very good the problem is a change in art style isn't worth the price in my opinion.

  • @mutrad5
    @mutrad5 Рік тому

    I mean patterz i can make your teams for you free of charge

  • @numberhunter62
    @numberhunter62 Рік тому

    I know it's your opinion of course and is obviously valid, but don't you shiny hunt Pokemon. Isn't that even worse than making a competitive team, and all you get out of that is simply a Pokemon with a different paint job.

  • @Imar13
    @Imar13 Рік тому

    Honestly I had trouble with horses until i just didn't tame a horse with wild temperament. They will automatically follow roads you don't need to steer at all unless you go offroad

  • @Riverbui
    @Riverbui Рік тому

    This is probably an incredibly stupid suggestion, especially considering this video already spoiled you, but maybe you should check out the GDQ Triforce% run.

  • @jamaldavis2480
    @jamaldavis2480 Рік тому

    Pat I like you... but you will not make my breeding lose meaning. It is all I have.

  • @derpdadouch3654
    @derpdadouch3654 Рік тому

    Oh pat don't argue in favor of cheaters in something like pokemon.
    But pat. Runner didn't need to do any of that crap your are using as an argument against him. He just needed to have a friend. You really going to punish people for being social?

  • @Dortiosucks
    @Dortiosucks Рік тому +2

    Honk

  • @seantay3279
    @seantay3279 Рік тому +2

    YES NO FIRSTS. I AM THE FIRST.

  • @indiglowsky
    @indiglowsky Рік тому +1

    :0

  • @niles8576
    @niles8576 Рік тому

    ace is short for asexual

  • @marcoplays7321
    @marcoplays7321 Рік тому

    166❤😂🎉❤😂🎉❤😂🎉

  • @lucygirl1111
    @lucygirl1111 Рік тому

    Pog

  • @toumabyakuya
    @toumabyakuya Рік тому +1

    Man, some of the rants here weren't needed at all, especially when it shows how wrong you are.

    • @MorePatterrz
      @MorePatterrz  Рік тому +1

      what

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Рік тому +1

      @@MorePatterrz What I said. Your rants about the competitive scene and horses in Tears of the Kingdom weren't needed, for example, and just made the viewing of this video less enjoyable.

    • @MorePatterrz
      @MorePatterrz  Рік тому +2

      i enjoyed it :D

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Рік тому

      @@MorePatterrz Dude, simply because you enjoy your own rants doesn't meant that all your viewers will also enjoy them.

    • @MorePatterrz
      @MorePatterrz  Рік тому

      @@toumabyakuya that's fine!

  • @lukycharms9970
    @lukycharms9970 Рік тому +1

    You need to calm down. Seriously. I can’t be the only one who is tired of this. You’re constantly at a 19/10 and the people that enjoy your content would almost all rather you be at like a 7/10. Please stop. Calm down. Deep breathe. Calm down. I’m positive you’d draw in so many more subscribers if you just took a deep breathe and relaxed.