@@ManyATrueNerd I'm pretty sure it's spawned in right from the get go but there's a unique glass helmet in the ocean near the coast of anvil called fin gleam if I remember correctly
Jon, if you want to commit some crimes and get away with them easily, there is a certain Master Thief who has no problems accumulating a bounty in your stead...
Jon, 100% chameleon is the most OP strat in the game, you become literally invisible, as in you're not visible at all in 3rd person. It also takes away ANY level of challenge as no enemy can ever fight you, they just run around going "Where are you?" and "I'll kill you when I find you!". Edit: Schlera Sestius isn't a guard, she's a huntress, with really good gear, but just a civilian.
I'm fairly certain this was mentioned before and it's funny when playing yourself but it makes for quite dull watching so dont expect to see it in the series
Fun fact about Umbra, according to the novels set between the games, uh, Umbra got sentient, got a body, and nicked a slice of Oblivion and had a floating city for a bit
Chameleon 100% breaks the game; you can literally do anything including beating people up, no need to sneak or anything, you will never be detected, and nobody will fight back
FUN FACT: Barbus wasn't wrong about what would happen if you returned Umbra. There are two real life books you can read ("The Infernal City" and "Lord Of Souls") that details what happened after the events of Oblivion that I definitely recommend.
@@DucksAreNotWhatTheySeem Exactly two, one a direct sequel to the other. It was meant to fill in some story between the 200 year jump between Oblivion and Skyrim. Honestly, I can only recommend it if you like Argonians.
49:55 different way of looking at having and using Umbra, it is a direct improvement to your knife "Life and Soul of the Party". Umbra has 3x as many charges as your knife, 12x the soul trap duration and weighs 0 because it's a quest item
Clavicus Vile is voiced by Todd Howard himself, according to the UESP. It's obviously raised in pitch and with reverb, but you can tell his voice is unique compared to the other 6 voice actors in the game. Vaermina was the standard old lady/elf voice.
Hey Jon. There is a mod that removes the refraction effect on Chameleon and instead makes you look translucent relative to the value of chameleon. You may want to get that, even if for the sake of video.
Umbra was one of the most mysterious characters for me, as I randomly found her at like level 3. She spawns with all weapon and armor, and when I saw how cool the gear was I wanted to kill her for it. She decimated me and I ended up attacking her and running all the way to imperial city where she was killed by the guards but let me tell you she killed a good amount of them. I started all of my playthroughs with this strategy 😅 it took me like 4 other playthroughs to find out that she was connected to Clavicus Vile. Fun fact that sword is actually the highest base damage in the game I believe
When Jon was maximum invisibility and shoving the monsters out of the way; I was reminded of the time in Red Dwarf when Cat was temporarily non-existent to the rest of the crew "We're gettin' some buffetin'!"
Wrong, it's Craig Sechler. That's just an urban legend of zelda which has been disproven multiple times yet still somehow pops up when people mention clavicus vile
@@mpg272727 UESP says it's voiced by Todd. Todd himself says he voiced it. The only place where Craig gets a credit is IMDB, all other sources maintain that Todd voiced it. So I'd be interested to see where it was disproven as, at best, I would say it's confusing.
Chameleon lowers the range at which enemies can detect you, which can already be pretty low with your stealth ability. But if you get to 100+ chameleon, it is quite impossible for you to be detected at all. Not just invisible. Undetectable. Stab them in the face and they still can't find you. Light level be damned at that point.
Yeah, big oof. But I like it when he doesn't go crazy OP. I really hope he only keeps one Chameleon item because it wouldn't be as fun if he could just silent assassin the game.
I remember playing this as a kid, I forgot where the black soul gem altar was and just never found it again. Never thought to use the internet to look it up lol
Damn, I’ve been on a month-long binge matn-bender. I’ve watched legendary roulette, F4 YOLO, Subnautica and Oblivion back to back and I love it. That’s probably the best gaming channel in UA-cam, FightingCowboy being a close second.
or that despite mention in episode 2 "hp isnt retroactive so i really need to take endurnace eary and often or imm be really disdadvantaged" only to procedd to...ignore endurance
Jon, a hint: If they aren't labelled a guard in game, they aren't a guard. Schlera is just a huntress. Oblivion is NOT a very complicated game when it comes to what NPCs do and most small towns only have occasional Legion guards. XD
If you head to the imperial city arena district during the day and watch the arena hopefuls box for a bit, you'll gain five levels of hand to hand. Just an easy way to get your strength up. Then maybe do some blade training, since the good artifacts are all swords.
RE your confusion about Clavicus wanting 500 gold. None of the daedric princes physically take the offering, the offering is just a representation of their sphere of influence. A pelt for Hircine shows you're a hunter. Troll fat ffor Malacath as he rules over the trolls and ogres and even orcs venerate him. Gold just shows Clavicus that you make bargains. The Umbra character is interesting. When she speaks about all the people she's killed I believe that's the sword speaking, not Lenwyn. There was also an Umbra who was consumed by the sword in Morrowind. Barbas mentions he was a scamp who traded with orcs, that's actually a reference to Morrowind. It's a well written quest imo
20:28 "Okay a skill book but not really a very relevant one" Jon, you've just picked up the best story book in the entire TES universe, Palla is friggin amazing
Umbra is amazing if you can beat her at an early level, daedric sword that counts as a quest item so no weight, Recommend hitting Meridia as your next daedric shrine, she has a ring I think you'll appreciate
I can't remember if this is a thing, but it would be a massive flavor fail he was allowed to speak to Merida as a vampire given her hatred of undeath. On the other hand Knights of the nine introduced Umaril the Unliving whose existence is contradictory to Merida's entire shtick yet it is insisted Merida is cool with it, so what is another lore break or two.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 You don't need to start the quest properly, Umbra will be there from the start and you can just find and kill her if you wanted. Mind you she's always the same high level with the same gear, so it's not easy. You can even complete the quest even though you didn't start it to get the mask. The mask can be used for the main story mission that requires giving up an artifact but the sword can't. This is useful for low level runs.
That's how I always went after the second time using Umbra. Every playthrough afterwards, I'd get a ton of iron arrows, jump up onto the column where Jon did and get Umbra very early. I rarely ever changed to a different sword after that. Kept Umbra, a dagger and a bow on me.
wanted to make a pun but couldn't find a good one so I'll just settle on saying this series has been one of my favourites on this channel, only beaten by the YOLO runs. Keep up the good work Jon \o/
I think umbra’s ebony armour is called that as it’s a levelled set. Below a certain level it has the stats of steel (I want to say) rather than true ebony. A bit like the dremora gear vs Daedric. The sword (again, I want to say) has the highest damage for a sword in game.
Have you considered using you amazing sandwich making skills to make chameleon potions? Radishes and venison (deer meat) can be used to make chameleon potions and those are presumably fairly common. I think that a good potion, your old stealth helmet, and new stealth boots should get you close to 100% chameleon already.
Umbra is actually really special because she spawns in at the start of the game, and always has her blade and a full set of ebony, it's a really good early game gear set xP
If you're worried about noise just take off your books detection by noise is entirely based off your boots. Which kind of makes light armour useless since you can just remove the boots off of any heavy armour set and be silent
You can actually get umbras gear immediately after leaving the imperial prison at the start of the game. It's not that hard to kill her by using her own traps against her in vindasel.
I always always use my Grey Fox Cowl when dungeon crawling. Huge sneak bonus. Large range for detect life. Enormous amount of feather. Keep it on hand when you want to haul out a bunch of gear. Fast travel back to your personal castle and drop off what you don't want to carry.
Jon, you don't need the necromancer in order to make black soul gems - you can make your own! Just load grand soul gems into the altar (yes, you can do multiple!), wait for the purple light, and then cast Soul Trap on the altar. You'll need to cast the spell once for each soul gem you've stored in the altar. Fun fact: at 28:14 Barbas was revealing a Morrowind "Easter egg". He was, in fact, a scamp named Creeper that was also a merchant. He was great to trade with because unlike other merchants he would buy anything you had and pay you it's base cost instead of skimming a percentage....and you couldn't call your new glass boots "Sneakers"??
Creating evil clones is hilarious and I'm sad that they didn't keep this mechanic in Skyrim. It kind of reminds me of Caves of Qud, except the evil clone is your own, lmao
Pro Tip for the episode: Sigil stones are for armor, Soul Gems are for enchanting weapons. You can stack effects on weapons with soul gems. Play around.
Jon...you are an assassin... you have a bag full of apples that instantly kill anyone that eats them... of course the best strat to kill that person is to drag a random monster into town and hope they die fighting it :P
"Pretty standard dungeon by the looks of it" Hah everyone who knows already knows Also Jon, think of chameleon like this, you are 30% chameleon so you are 30% invisible that doesn't disappear when you take an action
Is it almost time for Jon to learn some new summon spells? Cause I remember there being stronger summons then the Daedroth. I also agree the strom is bad in this game.
What's interesting is that Umbra is there at the beginning of the game. So you can go in and cheese her and get her gear early in the game and be way OP. Stumbled upon this my first playthrough and had her gear from the start.
I can't remember the details, but I recall watching a lore video on Umbra that was quite interesting, even to someone like me who isn't deep into Elder Scrolls lore.
Anytime I know that I'm gonna use Umbra, I just name my character Umbra, since you can't change your name, and it's not like you're NOT gonna become Umbra if you use it. Sorry Dragonborn, not even you.
Actually Umbra is a piece of the very same Prince that sent you to get it, Clavicus Vile, similar in a sense to Barbas his dog. He commissioned a sword, Umbra, that when it killed people it would send their souls straight to his domain of Oblivion called the Field of Regrets. The person that made it for him told Clavicus that in order to make such a weapon Clavicus would need to infuse a bit of his soul or power into it. It worked as advertised but over time the sword grew a sentience and independence of it's own in a way and it started possessing people. So while Umbra was once just a bit of Clavicus it has since become it's own entity.
The Frost Atronach wasn't able to detect you when you bumped into it because you were in the shadows. The Storm Atronach was able to detect you because you were in the light.
Hey Jon you can tell who the guards are because they wear guard armor of some sort, even in the small towns. That woman is just a civilian with really good gear.
I will agree with others, keep your current level of Chameleon but not higher or you lose all sense of urgency at all even in broad daylight. What a missed opportunity when enchanting the boots to call them "A nice pair of sneakers".
Ah, this quest. A lot of people decide to keep the Umbra sword since it has A LOT of stacks of soul capturing and is a pretty good sword if you get it at the max level it spawns as.
You can actually go to vindasel at any point and fight umbra. You don't actually need the quest from clavicus vile in order to fight her. She's lv 50 with a lot of health, armor and health regen and the best sword in the game so killing her at a low level is really hard unless you cheese her. If you fight her at low level her armor will actually be orcish level instead of ebony but you get the best sword in the game super early and it will be weightless because it's a quest item. Similarly in Morrowind you can find Umbra just chilling out in the middle of nowhere and fight him.
Its extremely difficult, but you can actually get Umbra at level 1. And then yo uhave a ridiculously powerful, weightless sword for however long you want. The strategy is to go there, attack her at range, then run. Then swim to the imperial city waterfront. Then hop on top of buildings and try to stay out of reach as guards gradually kill her. This can take a while to pull off.
I never turn in Umbra. The mask is worthless to me, and Umbra is the strongest one handed sword, though the enchantment isn't great, and it is weightless. Who would prefer a bonus to Personality over Umbra? Also since it's a quest item I believe it can't be disarmed from you.
The mask is a key component in setting up another build which means you never have to fight anything. Once you buff to having 200+ personality, just about everything leaves you alone..
Right, so, Jon, allow me to explain how Sneak works, in rough terms. The way detection works is that your likelihood of being spotted (well, more accurately, detected) has to do with three metrics: Light level, sound level, and weight. Weight is not an issue for you, and sound is not an issue either, because you don't tend to pick up and drag items, and you have the necessary perks to largely negate them. Unlike weight and sound, which largely are based on flat values (item weight has a fixed value per unit of weight, sound interaction with weight has a similarly fixed value as well as having fixed values for actions such as pickpocketing and lockpicking), light level is a bit more complicated. You see, in the CS (The Construction Set, the primary modding tool for Oblivion), Light is essentially an "object" of sorts. It is defined as a sphere of any given diameter (in game units) with an intensity value ranging anywhere from 0 to 255 (absolute darkness and absolute light). Light "objects" can have unlimited range and any of the 256 possible intensity values theoretically. In practice, however the majority of Light "objects" have ranges that are either values that are multiples of 10, powers of 2, or multiples of 100; the intensity values follow a similar trend, and are usually either 0, powers of 2, or 255 (along with a colour value that is irrelevant to explanation). Though the intensity value of Light "objects" does give a flat value as a modifier for detection chance, the large amount of possible intensity values makes it so that the calculation is seemingly exponential or logarithmic, as opposed to the fairly limited and fixed values that are given for weight and sound calculations. The best comparison I can give you for how light sources work in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim is how Rads work in Fallout 3, Fallout NV, and Fallout 4. Rads in those games are also determined by intensity values within a spherical Rad "object", of any given diameter. The only real difference is that Rad "objects" are designed to either exponentially or logarithmically (I cannot remember which) the closer you get to the origin (0,0,0 within the sphere) of the Rad "object", and that the value is not capped to an 8-bit integer limit of 0 to 255, as Rads are an expression of a "per second" effect that doesn't inherently have, or necessitate having, absolute values.
Chameleon is fully broken OP. At 100% you functionally undetectable. I love how in older Elder Scrolls games you could use enchants and spellmaking to get to literal godmode like status.
Take the Dark Brotherhood... There was a spell you could buy from an NPC you killed. That literally... Gives you 100% chameleon (until you attack). In the end I learnt the best ways to deal with enemies is just to avoid them. Or kill them with stealth.
It's very british of Jon to wreak havoc, commit pure evil, and ruin everyone's day with demons from hell all while being utterly judgemental about their every action.
I actually love this radiation green glass armor. Oblivion styling vs Skyrim styling is like 1960s Michael West Batman vs aughts Dark Knight. Just awesome goofy vibe, not so self serious.
You wander in the ruins of Vin Diesel, all you hear is "family" echoing off the walls, the ghosts are all bald with aviators. You smell gasoline the further you go into the ruin...
Yes in Oblivion everytime you go and talk with someone the game pauses, while Skyrim they fixed that and so everything around you keeps going in dialog.
'Stealth Boots' - I'd have called them 'Sneakers'
This deserves more recognition!
THIS is the CORRECT name.
not really called that in england though :/
Let’s appreciate the fact that Jon spent so so long trying to find Elven gear, only to immediately replace it all with Glass in the very next episode.
“She’s running away and my horse is vibrating into a wall…”
The perfect description of a Bethesda game if I’ve ever heard one.
All the sequence of that Storm Atronach in the town is literally a Bethesda game commercial.
*The perfect description of a Jon run if I've ever seen one. Fixed that for you.
"Into Vin Diesel we go". Not a sentence I ever expected Jon to say
I came here looking for this comment. Poor Vin Diesel...
Is Jon going to start ranking his devotion to Daedric princes by how much he likes their evil villain speeches?
I can't think of any better way.
50-50 that or their loot.
@@Techstriker1 Well they could lose/gain points depending on how bad/good the reward they give him is.
@@ManyATrueNerd I'm pretty sure it's spawned in right from the get go but there's a unique glass helmet in the ocean near the coast of anvil called fin gleam if I remember correctly
@@hodgindaylon Oh that thing! I barely played oblivion, but that's the one relic thing I found.
"This is probably a crime"
Yeah premeditated murders tend to be.
Bethesda doesn't always think so...
HAHAHAHAHA this caught me off guard
Perhaps a name along the lines of "These Boots are Made for Stalking" might be good for Jon's new stealth shoes?
Ooh, I like that, that's good.
Get out of here Stalker!
I was thinking "Das Boot", but maybe that's a bit tangential and most people wouldn't get it anyway.
@@thumper8684
The only films I’ve seen at the cinema are Das Boot, the hunt for Red October and U571…..
….I only go for the Subtitles
@@thumper8684 a deep reference.
Jon, if you want to commit some crimes and get away with them easily, there is a certain Master Thief who has no problems accumulating a bounty in your stead...
Some sort of monochromatic vulpine?
@@polygondwanaland8390 The Blue Racoon Dog?
Yeah, I doubt that Jon will ever remember to use that cowl... or even use it correctly around people.
@@Silverhawk100 No, no, less saturated, and more wily.
But that guy's wanted for..well..everything!
Jon, 100% chameleon is the most OP strat in the game, you become literally invisible, as in you're not visible at all in 3rd person. It also takes away ANY level of challenge as no enemy can ever fight you, they just run around going "Where are you?" and "I'll kill you when I find you!".
Edit: Schlera Sestius isn't a guard, she's a huntress, with really good gear, but just a civilian.
fr fr on god
I'm fairly certain this was mentioned before and it's funny when playing yourself but it makes for quite dull watching so dont expect to see it in the series
Jon needs to avoid this strategy, it just kills the game. It's basically God mode.
Oh, I'm not for a second suggesting Jon should play using it for this series, it would indeed be very, very dull.
@@mrhedgebull1658 It would be fun to see him mess around with it once or twice though. Like just go for a nice stroll through an oblivion gate.
Fun fact about Umbra, according to the novels set between the games, uh, Umbra got sentient, got a body, and nicked a slice of Oblivion and had a floating city for a bit
And provided a good ol' zombie apocalypse to a hefty chunk of Cyrodill
Chameleon 100% breaks the game; you can literally do anything including beating people up, no need to sneak or anything, you will never be detected, and nobody will fight back
"Into Vin Diesel we go". Now that's something i didn't expect to hear today.
Man, they finally made an Osmosis Jones sequel?
Jeez, at least buy the man dinner, first.
FUN FACT: Barbus wasn't wrong about what would happen if you returned Umbra. There are two real life books you can read ("The Infernal City" and "Lord Of Souls") that details what happened after the events of Oblivion that I definitely recommend.
Short, nonspoilery version: it doesn't end well for Clavicus.
I didn't know elder scrolls had spin off books
@@DucksAreNotWhatTheySeem Exactly two, one a direct sequel to the other. It was meant to fill in some story between the 200 year jump between Oblivion and Skyrim. Honestly, I can only recommend it if you like Argonians.
@@Silverhawk100 well there is that one book about an Argonian maid I read once and I liked that, so maybe I'll give them a read.
@@Silverhawk100 what if you hate argonians?
49:55 different way of looking at having and using Umbra, it is a direct improvement to your knife "Life and Soul of the Party". Umbra has 3x as many charges as your knife, 12x the soul trap duration and weighs 0 because it's a quest item
it might just eat her soul and make her a mercary seeking to kill moree people at random...but would anyone notice?
Im so upset this evil soul stealing wizard bastard jon decided to trade umbra for kocking garbage
Clavicus Vile is voiced by Todd Howard himself, according to the UESP. It's obviously raised in pitch and with reverb, but you can tell his voice is unique compared to the other 6 voice actors in the game. Vaermina was the standard old lady/elf voice.
Wow that's cool and fitting.
I knew i wasn't crazy.
Hey Jon. There is a mod that removes the refraction effect on Chameleon and instead makes you look translucent relative to the value of chameleon. You may want to get that, even if for the sake of video.
Sneakers is right there for the boots... lol
Jon finally discovers the awesome power of Chameleon.
Keep in mind the grey fox mask has a really high feather enchant as well
downside is guards try to arrest you on sight.
Umbra was one of the most mysterious characters for me, as I randomly found her at like level 3. She spawns with all weapon and armor, and when I saw how cool the gear was I wanted to kill her for it. She decimated me and I ended up attacking her and running all the way to imperial city where she was killed by the guards but let me tell you she killed a good amount of them. I started all of my playthroughs with this strategy 😅 it took me like 4 other playthroughs to find out that she was connected to Clavicus Vile. Fun fact that sword is actually the highest base damage in the game I believe
When Jon was maximum invisibility and shoving the monsters out of the way; I was reminded of the time in Red Dwarf when Cat was temporarily non-existent to the rest of the crew "We're gettin' some buffetin'!"
Just saw that episode today
Rimmer is a total and utter smeghead
@@theredking254 That is a truth, universally acknowledged!!
Very much here for the red dwarf reference in 2022
It was physically painful to watch Jon return Umbra to Clavicus. No matter what build I do, Umbra always, ALWAYS stays with me as a back-up weapon
It's damage is pretty low due to not being able to be enchanted
@@jackcockerl7090 I just love 0 weight and free soultrap
Most don't realize it, but that's actually Todd Howard that does the voice acting for clavicus vile
Wrong, it's Craig Sechler. That's just an urban legend of zelda which has been disproven multiple times yet still somehow pops up when people mention clavicus vile
@@mpg272727 UESP says it's voiced by Todd. Todd himself says he voiced it. The only place where Craig gets a credit is IMDB, all other sources maintain that Todd voiced it. So I'd be interested to see where it was disproven as, at best, I would say it's confusing.
@@turtleswatter21 I think that Craig voices the hound and that's where the confusion comes in, I believe Todd voices Vile
@@mpg272727 yeah craig does barbas, he doesn't do clavicus
Chameleon lowers the range at which enemies can detect you, which can already be pretty low with your stealth ability. But if you get to 100+ chameleon, it is quite impossible for you to be detected at all. Not just invisible. Undetectable. Stab them in the face and they still can't find you. Light level be damned at that point.
Jon giving up Umbra hurt my ... soul ...
Yeah, big oof. But I like it when he doesn't go crazy OP. I really hope he only keeps one Chameleon item because it wouldn't be as fun if he could just silent assassin the game.
The interior of Arkved's Tower, in particular Arkved's Retreat, is some of the best imagery I've seen in any game.
"i agree" comments don't really add much but I agree heavily
I remember playing this as a kid, I forgot where the black soul gem altar was and just never found it again. Never thought to use the internet to look it up lol
Damn, I’ve been on a month-long binge matn-bender. I’ve watched legendary roulette, F4 YOLO, Subnautica and Oblivion back to back and I love it. That’s probably the best gaming channel in UA-cam, FightingCowboy being a close second.
lol I love how Jon can have nearly 90 sneak, 30% chameleon, and be in the dark, and still be confused why enemies are haven't trouble seeing him
or that despite mention in episode 2 "hp isnt retroactive so i really need to take endurnace eary and often or imm be really disdadvantaged" only to procedd to...ignore endurance
Jon, a hint: If they aren't labelled a guard in game, they aren't a guard. Schlera is just a huntress. Oblivion is NOT a very complicated game when it comes to what NPCs do and most small towns only have occasional Legion guards. XD
I didn't realize what Jon had was chameleon and not invisibility! Yeah, with even moderate chameleon, you are functionally the god of stealth.
can't believe Jon went with Stealth Boot, instead of ... Sneakers!!!
Ahhhh nooo! That's perfect!
If you head to the imperial city arena district during the day and watch the arena hopefuls box for a bit, you'll gain five levels of hand to hand. Just an easy way to get your strength up. Then maybe do some blade training, since the good artifacts are all swords.
RE your confusion about Clavicus wanting 500 gold. None of the daedric princes physically take the offering, the offering is just a representation of their sphere of influence. A pelt for Hircine shows you're a hunter. Troll fat ffor Malacath as he rules over the trolls and ogres and even orcs venerate him. Gold just shows Clavicus that you make bargains. The Umbra character is interesting. When she speaks about all the people she's killed I believe that's the sword speaking, not Lenwyn. There was also an Umbra who was consumed by the sword in Morrowind. Barbas mentions he was a scamp who traded with orcs, that's actually a reference to Morrowind. It's a well written quest imo
20:28 "Okay a skill book but not really a very relevant one" Jon, you've just picked up the best story book in the entire TES universe, Palla is friggin amazing
Umbra is amazing if you can beat her at an early level, daedric sword that counts as a quest item so no weight,
Recommend hitting Meridia as your next daedric shrine, she has a ring I think you'll appreciate
I can't remember if this is a thing, but it would be a massive flavor fail he was allowed to speak to Merida as a vampire given her hatred of undeath. On the other hand Knights of the nine introduced Umaril the Unliving whose existence is contradictory to Merida's entire shtick yet it is insisted Merida is cool with it, so what is another lore break or two.
You need to be level 20 too begin the quest though, so the earliest you can get it is when daedric weapons already start showing up.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 You don't need to start the quest properly, Umbra will be there from the start and you can just find and kill her if you wanted. Mind you she's always the same high level with the same gear, so it's not easy. You can even complete the quest even though you didn't start it to get the mask. The mask can be used for the main story mission that requires giving up an artifact but the sword can't. This is useful for low level runs.
It hurt my soul seeing Jon give up the best sword in the game at zero weight till the end of the game for a crappy mask.
That's how I always went after the second time using Umbra. Every playthrough afterwards, I'd get a ton of iron arrows, jump up onto the column where Jon did and get Umbra very early. I rarely ever changed to a different sword after that. Kept Umbra, a dagger and a bow on me.
wanted to make a pun but couldn't find a good one so I'll just settle on saying this series has been one of my favourites on this channel, only beaten by the YOLO runs. Keep up the good work Jon \o/
Your attempt was quite transparent.
@@jansenart0 I saw through what you did there.
I think umbra’s ebony armour is called that as it’s a levelled set. Below a certain level it has the stats of steel (I want to say) rather than true ebony. A bit like the dremora gear vs Daedric. The sword (again, I want to say) has the highest damage for a sword in game.
Have you considered using you amazing sandwich making skills to make chameleon potions? Radishes and venison (deer meat) can be used to make chameleon potions and those are presumably fairly common. I think that a good potion, your old stealth helmet, and new stealth boots should get you close to 100% chameleon already.
Jon surely you have seen Black Panther! The perfect name for your stealth shoes is Sneakers.
Umbra is actually really special because she spawns in at the start of the game, and always has her blade and a full set of ebony, it's a really good early game gear set xP
Oh important note, you WILL run out of oblivion gates, there's only like, 50 gates iirc
42:11 Umbra literally on screen just before Jon says "...but I don't see a thing."
I mean it was just her head and it was barely noticeable
Wasn't there a village that was turned invisible by accident that you had to solve earlier? Have you learned nothing?
If you're worried about noise just take off your books detection by noise is entirely based off your boots. Which kind of makes light armour useless since you can just remove the boots off of any heavy armour set and be silent
"Dead end with a skeleton."
Well, yes.. a dead end.
I'll see myself out.
I never seen the skeleton when I did that quest. All I got was a stupid Brand New Car!
Oh if you think your hat is fun, Jon go and find Meridia. She has a ring you'll really like
Lore bit: Lord Naarifin used that orb to gather intel on TM2 during the Great War.
8:17 "It's cave, it's dark..."
Benor would be like two thirds proud of you.
You can actually get umbras gear immediately after leaving the imperial prison at the start of the game. It's not that hard to kill her by using her own traps against her in vindasel.
I always always use my Grey Fox Cowl when dungeon crawling. Huge sneak bonus. Large range for detect life. Enormous amount of feather.
Keep it on hand when you want to haul out a bunch of gear. Fast travel back to your personal castle and drop off what you don't want to carry.
Jon, you don't need the necromancer in order to make black soul gems - you can make your own! Just load grand soul gems into the altar (yes, you can do multiple!), wait for the purple light, and then cast Soul Trap on the altar. You'll need to cast the spell once for each soul gem you've stored in the altar.
Fun fact: at 28:14 Barbas was revealing a Morrowind "Easter egg". He was, in fact, a scamp named Creeper that was also a merchant. He was great to trade with because unlike other merchants he would buy anything you had and pay you it's base cost instead of skimming a percentage....and you couldn't call your new glass boots "Sneakers"??
He knows, he waited for the Necromancer because they make one for free.
@@Eon2641 Okay....that makes it even funnier!
7:33 Shadowmere is ready to kick butt and take names 🤣
Creating evil clones is hilarious and I'm sad that they didn't keep this mechanic in Skyrim. It kind of reminds me of Caves of Qud, except the evil clone is your own, lmao
Jon: "My go-to blade has been the Honourblade"
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Have Jon ever used that sword? Serious question.
Pro Tip for the episode: Sigil stones are for armor, Soul Gems are for enchanting weapons. You can stack effects on weapons with soul gems. Play around.
37:06 obviously, this woman has been hoarding all the glass armor and valuable loot you've been missing, John.
Jon...you are an assassin... you have a bag full of apples that instantly kill anyone that eats them... of course the best strat to kill that person is to drag a random monster into town and hope they die fighting it :P
So happy I'm not the only one who calls it Vindiesel.
"Pretty standard dungeon by the looks of it"
Hah everyone who knows already knows
Also Jon, think of chameleon like this, you are 30% chameleon so you are 30% invisible that doesn't disappear when you take an action
Is it almost time for Jon to learn some new summon spells? Cause I remember there being stronger summons then the Daedroth. I also agree the strom is bad in this game.
I didn't know you could sleep there! I love your flair for drama Jon
Man. I'm really loving your playthrough. Thanks so very entertaining.
A specific part of the main quest gets more difficult as you level over your current level. Just a friendly warning.
What's interesting is that Umbra is there at the beginning of the game. So you can go in and cheese her and get her gear early in the game and be way OP. Stumbled upon this my first playthrough and had her gear from the start.
That note sounds like it's directly quoted from HP Lovecraft's Dreamcycle
I can't remember the details, but I recall watching a lore video on Umbra that was quite interesting, even to someone like me who isn't deep into Elder Scrolls lore.
Anytime I know that I'm gonna use Umbra, I just name my character Umbra, since you can't change your name, and it's not like you're NOT gonna become Umbra if you use it. Sorry Dragonborn, not even you.
Actually Umbra is a piece of the very same Prince that sent you to get it, Clavicus Vile, similar in a sense to Barbas his dog. He commissioned a sword, Umbra, that when it killed people it would send their souls straight to his domain of Oblivion called the Field of Regrets. The person that made it for him told Clavicus that in order to make such a weapon Clavicus would need to infuse a bit of his soul or power into it. It worked as advertised but over time the sword grew a sentience and independence of it's own in a way and it started possessing people. So while Umbra was once just a bit of Clavicus it has since become it's own entity.
The Frost Atronach wasn't able to detect you when you bumped into it because you were in the shadows. The Storm Atronach was able to detect you because you were in the light.
Hey Jon you can tell who the guards are because they wear guard armor of some sort, even in the small towns. That woman is just a civilian with really good gear.
I like how trying to murder someone for armour led to more wackier situations that just kept getting weirder
Next time: Jon discovers that armed roughians are no where near as well equipped as random villagers.
I will agree with others, keep your current level of Chameleon but not higher or you lose all sense of urgency at all even in broad daylight.
What a missed opportunity when enchanting the boots to call them "A nice pair of sneakers".
26:33 is clavicus voiced by Todd Howard? sounds exactly like him with a pitch-changer lmao
I do believe there is a transcendant sigil stone for Detect Life that is ... pretty wild. May fortune favor you
I knew Jon would start to find better gear as soon as he completed his Elvin set.
I sure hope that bow lady isn't the archery trainer.
100% chameleon op
I love the enthusiasm.
"There would be no harm in stripping her naked." - Jon
Wish you'd have named the Chameleon boots "Sneakyfeet". Props to anyone who gets *that* reference.
Ah, this quest. A lot of people decide to keep the Umbra sword since it has A LOT of stacks of soul capturing and is a pretty good sword if you get it at the max level it spawns as.
I love the Chameleon spell. Once you get it going, fights are basically optional from that point forward.
You can actually go to vindasel at any point and fight umbra. You don't actually need the quest from clavicus vile in order to fight her. She's lv 50 with a lot of health, armor and health regen and the best sword in the game so killing her at a low level is really hard unless you cheese her. If you fight her at low level her armor will actually be orcish level instead of ebony but you get the best sword in the game super early and it will be weightless because it's a quest item.
Similarly in Morrowind you can find Umbra just chilling out in the middle of nowhere and fight him.
Who else is looking forward to Jon playing Morrowind when this is all done?
Its extremely difficult, but you can actually get Umbra at level 1. And then yo uhave a ridiculously powerful, weightless sword for however long you want. The strategy is to go there, attack her at range, then run. Then swim to the imperial city waterfront. Then hop on top of buildings and try to stay out of reach as guards gradually kill her. This can take a while to pull off.
I never turn in Umbra. The mask is worthless to me, and Umbra is the strongest one handed sword, though the enchantment isn't great, and it is weightless. Who would prefer a bonus to Personality over Umbra? Also since it's a quest item I believe it can't be disarmed from you.
The mask is a key component in setting up another build which means you never have to fight anything. Once you buff to having 200+ personality, just about everything leaves you alone..
Right, so, Jon, allow me to explain how Sneak works, in rough terms.
The way detection works is that your likelihood of being spotted (well, more accurately, detected) has to do with three metrics: Light level, sound level, and weight. Weight is not an issue for you, and sound is not an issue either, because you don't tend to pick up and drag items, and you have the necessary perks to largely negate them.
Unlike weight and sound, which largely are based on flat values (item weight has a fixed value per unit of weight, sound interaction with weight has a similarly fixed value as well as having fixed values for actions such as pickpocketing and lockpicking), light level is a bit more complicated.
You see, in the CS (The Construction Set, the primary modding tool for Oblivion), Light is essentially an "object" of sorts. It is defined as a sphere of any given diameter (in game units) with an intensity value ranging anywhere from 0 to 255 (absolute darkness and absolute light).
Light "objects" can have unlimited range and any of the 256 possible intensity values theoretically. In practice, however the majority of Light "objects" have ranges that are either values that are multiples of 10, powers of 2, or multiples of 100; the intensity values follow a similar trend, and are usually either 0, powers of 2, or 255 (along with a colour value that is irrelevant to explanation).
Though the intensity value of Light "objects" does give a flat value as a modifier for detection chance, the large amount of possible intensity values makes it so that the calculation is seemingly exponential or logarithmic, as opposed to the fairly limited and fixed values that are given for weight and sound calculations.
The best comparison I can give you for how light sources work in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim is how Rads work in Fallout 3, Fallout NV, and Fallout 4. Rads in those games are also determined by intensity values within a spherical Rad "object", of any given diameter.
The only real difference is that Rad "objects" are designed to either exponentially or logarithmically (I cannot remember which) the closer you get to the origin (0,0,0 within the sphere) of the Rad "object", and that the value is not capped to an 8-bit integer limit of 0 to 255, as Rads are an expression of a "per second" effect that doesn't inherently have, or necessitate having, absolute values.
I’m just excited for Jon to play the Shiver Isles DLC and find Amber armour
Chameleon is fully broken OP. At 100% you functionally undetectable. I love how in older Elder Scrolls games you could use enchants and spellmaking to get to literal godmode like status.
I forgot how often the Daedric Princes had things stolen from them in this game.
FYI that Clavicus Vile quest is a prelude to the novel series.
Clavicus Vile is voiced by none other but Godd Howard himself
Jon: Doing a mission happy as Larry! 4 seconds later GLASS ARMOUR ITS MURDER TIME!
Take the Dark Brotherhood... There was a spell you could buy from an NPC you killed. That literally... Gives you 100% chameleon (until you attack).
In the end I learnt the best ways to deal with enemies is just to avoid them.
Or kill them with stealth.
It's very british of Jon to wreak havoc, commit pure evil, and ruin everyone's day with demons from hell all while being utterly judgemental about their every action.
20:37
That guy chim'd so hard.
That Umbra vs Umbra fight was something straight out of Dragon Ball xD
I actually love this radiation green glass armor. Oblivion styling vs Skyrim styling is like 1960s Michael West Batman vs aughts Dark Knight. Just awesome goofy vibe, not so self serious.
You wander in the ruins of Vin Diesel, all you hear is "family" echoing off the walls, the ghosts are all bald with aviators. You smell gasoline the further you go into the ruin...
Yes in Oblivion everytime you go and talk with someone the game pauses, while Skyrim they fixed that and so everything around you keeps going in dialog.
Another addicting series - must watch TV!
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