Daredevil: Born Again! The Miller/Mazzucchelli Masterpiece!
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Born Again and Batman: Year One are the Godfather and Goodfellas of comic books.
Full of Mischief should I read them if I’m brand new?
Definitely Batman year one if you are new to comics
That one year -1986 - Frank Miller became an absolute legend and instantly one of the greatest creators in Comic Book History.
This one remains the best Daredevil story ever - and one of the best Marvel stories in general.
Just epic in every way.
Amazing that they have not just adapted this story straight away in a DD movie or in the series
The writers literally would not need to change a single thing.
That one page where DD returns after
“ give me a red”
Where he is standing there in the flames
is just one of the most memorable images ever in comics.
Totally agree.
When I was 18 I saved £70 to meet Frank Miller in London and get his autograph. When I was deciding what to get signed, the guy who runs my LCS recommended a Daredevil artist edition that I couldn't afford, so he sold it to me at cost as he thought it'd be worth it. Legend. Miller is a fantastic artist, and an even better writer.
Frank miller wrote a comic book about the phrase: a man who has nothing to lose is a man without fear. He unfolded that premise in a perfect philosophical character driven violent tale. I love this comic book forever.
Those ads are insane next to this story. Nestle Quick, glow-in-the -dark-balls...
Gobots ..... no Transformers yet
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Captain America the Musical!
I remember ordering from Mile High Comics
Carebears🤪
I loved this when it came out and I still love it today. It's the Daredevil story I revisit the most and recommend to people that aren't really into comics. This and Batman: Year One.
A superior super hero story. Reading it as it came out, as a kid in the eighties, was something...
I 100% agree! It was life changing to read this story as it hit newsstands back in the 80s. I was 13!
I was in the 8th grade when these issues hit the newsstand back in 86. I can remember not only reading every issue but I remember where I was when I bought each issue. This was the greatest comics reading experience of my life.
Dam man what a flex
I remember cutting grass for comic book money, riding my bike to the Short stop to buy these. Good times.
how lucky i am reading this pure gold comicbooks, thanks pals!!!
Daredevil is one of my favorites and these stories are the main reason why. Gorgeous art, amazing story, really brings the character down to raise him up later on. Fantastic.
Just to let yall know the Frank Miller Daredevil omnibus companion which contains Born Again, Love and War and Man without Fear also contains scrips pages and rough sketches!
Loved the video ! 👌
Love the Miller Daredevil. Thanks for sharing. Could get into a second bite at the apple as you guys poor over the gorgeous art. As awesome as Miller is artistically he seems blessed with some amazing collaborators.
Great flick through and analysis of the individual issues guys. I bought the individual issues from UK newsagents in 1986, and, the final issue with DD, Captain America and Nuke, are the most phenomenal action movie comics I've ever read. I genuinely hope the Disney+ series lives up to the storyline. {But, I think it won't, and, I will be disappointed.}
The inside cover ad featuring Care Bears and Thundercats opposite the opening page of dope sick Karen page is absolutely WILD. Man, I love these comics.
A stupendous episode about one of my favourite stories! Looking forward to more on Mazzucchelli. The final page of the arc, always thought that was a homage to the album cover for the Freewheelin' Bob Dylan.
Good call.
Why did it take UA-cam sooooo long to suggest your channel? You guys are hysterical. Guess I have to subscribe.
Great episode, man. You guys do say man a lot, man.
I can't say it enough: thanks for the review. Your point of view is great to hear and I love reliving (so to speak) issues that made such a huge impression on me when I was a child. Thanks again!
I cut my teeth around this story as far as the man without fear goes.... utterly gut-wrenching!! I liked Daredevil before but became a fan because of this. It would make a great one shot/short story (animated or live) that MILLER should do!!! Sin City style.... 😈. ( nuff’ said)
SO glad you guys are covering this.
"Daredevil - Born Again" remains a stone-cold classic.
That magnificent series got me back into reading comics again, after twenty years
of neglect.
For sheer pacing, plot, and artwork it remains impressive.
Dan Brown will be dead and buried before he comes up with anything in this league.
James Lee Burke would've loved DBA.
at some point you should talk about Mazzuchelli's adaption of City of Glass
I remember getting one of the issues or a couple of issues in this series as a little kid and being so frustrated, because it was too focused on Murdock and other characters and all the adult stuff that didn't make a lot of sense to me, and Daredevil barely even appeared and he was all broken and weak. But the art and the atmosphere stayed with me, for good or bad, that's why I remember it decades later.
Read these as a kid, and they floored me too. Only had vaguely heard of Miller because of Ronin. Had read a few Daredevils before this, which were one issue stories that didn't change much in his life. I kept expecting Miller to drop the tension in the story and eventually return to that. That is until Turk (the pettiest of DD's criminal informants) stabbed him. Then I knew all bets were off. I'll never forget that worm's eye view of Thor silhouetted against the sky and commanding down the storm. I loved Simonson's Thor, but I'd never seen him portrayed as an awe inspiring deity. It really reinforced that Murdock's world was not as cosmic as the other heroes.
For those of us who are on a budget - apart from the Artist edition there's also Artisan Edition. It's smaller and softcover but has the same contents and the build quality is pretty steller. It's also significantly cheaper, so you can jump on it without breaking the bank.
Great stuff!
10:59 contrast between the ad and the content
you guys remind me of my friends we hold simular conversations tyvm
One of the comics I always come back to. This ans Batman Year One. Just perfect comic stories. Writing, art, composition, presentation, it's just all so perfect.
Examples of what the comic medium is capable of at their best.
This is my favorite comicbook storyline of all time!
You guys really get into the comics....the story, the artwork, the panels and formats. Which is what comics are really all about and not the CGC 9.8 First character appearance nonsense.
Ive bought and read the comics you guys make at the LCS.....keep up the good work. 👍
Great video and a really formative comic for me. I read this one, Dark Knight and City of glass when I was about 14. Born again reeeally creeped me out. I flipped through my old German edition while watching and the colours don't work at all on the shiny paper they used, which kinda makes it even more unsettling. I'm guessing the translation isn't great too, so after over twenty years, I guess I should upgrade...
The M & M’s ad, packs of fun for everyone (issue 232 @the 1:01:20 mark )...actually stands for Miller & Mazzucchelli 😆
Thanks for doing the review with the original comics instead of the TPB
Guys, thank you so much for this. Great comic, great episode.
Do a Jim Shooter interview!
The compression of the story telling compared today is jarring every time I re-read this. Would today's sensibilities allow for the complete fall of Matt and the reveal of the villain in a single issue? My LCS owner at the time used to swear that FM was assisting DM on the art because ..."he was never this good".
I think that this masterful work draws some inspiration from the biblical Book of Job. In that story as with "Born Again" a righteous man loses everything and everyone to the machinations of Satan "The Kingpin of corruption ".
Just got Jim’s book was originally gunna buy it off his amazon but then I seen it at my Lcs so I grabbed that one instead but the black light color is wicked cool man it looks like there’s a page we’re you tried to do it in that old school 3D style with the red n blue glasses 🤓 lol but I think I loved the purple snow flakes on the white snow the most the contrast with the black it’s one of those things we’re I can’t stop looking at it Nd idk why lol
You should do a Rubber Blanket episode. I've never read issue 2 personally. "Big Man" in issue 3 rules
You know what else is in need of much love and reassessment?
Elektra Lives Again
I love the way you treat comics.
Like comics.
"Mrs. Garrett ain't having none of that"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't stop laughing at that joke.
Love those 80s cultural reference cracks!!! Great stuff!!!!
Matt cooked good burgers because of his heightened senses
How did Octobriana end up in Target? Have they explained that? So cool and weird.
Question: About those last two issues. I had always heard that Miller left the book sooner than he intended for one reason or another. The original story was supposed to wrap up when the Kingpin was taken down once and for all: The Avengers and DD hitting him from the top while the rest of the Mob hit him from below, both over the Nuke situation. Meanwhile Ben Urich’s stories in the Bugle would have ruined him publicly as the Kingpin breaks down mentally just as Matt had in the beginning. Did I hear wrong on that? It always helped me make some kind of sense out of those last two issues.
It’s disturbing how life imitated art here for Ed,his own life was dismantled for what seems like a misunderstanding and missing context. How could anyone know what his intentions were? It did look bad but again we don’t know what was in his head. He deserved the chance to explain himself and defend himself. It’s not right to be able to so easily ruin someone without hearing both/all sides. Idk if this comment will be posted and I guess it doesn’t matter
Can't wait for that artist's edition episode!
my favorite Miller story, my favorite superhero comic story, my favorite run. I love it since the day I read it for the first time.
Just like blowing up DD's house, Kingpin goes too far to get that body he wants so bad and sends in Nuke.
The motif at the beginning of each chapter remark the resurrection of Matt Murdock. Each chapter he is more and more in fetal position (a return to the birth stage, another way of "death") until the final proper chapter, "Born Again" where all the page composition (white wall and white bed) is a cross which means resurrection, of course. he reborn to resolve the contradiction between Matt Murdock and DareDevil.
BTW, great work here, guys, like usual!
Suggestion for a future episode: the Englehart/Rogers run on Detective Comics?
And the Rogers run on Mister Miracle.
1986 was a hulluva cocaine year. Frank and Bill were firing on all cylinders and added turbochargers.
This is Marvels Dark Knight Returns.
THE TRIPLE FAT GOOSE COAT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was born in January '86
Well done. Another deep dive into an important classic.
Love the juxtaposition of the very first page with the care bears on the ad
I disagree that this was all that PIVOTAL in terms of being dark and edgy. it's on a continuum with other stuff that dealt with drug and alcohol use (green arrow/lantern) and more adult topics. some x-men graphic novels like "God loves, man kills" was pretty dark and wolverine (also under miller) was going the same way. and while american comics were always written off as kid stuff, I think the readership extended very much into high school and college students. whether the mass perception was that it was for kids, most of the writing did not reflect that at all - and for a pretty long time actually.
“ Never give up…. Never…”
The ads always crack me up in these, they're so incongruous. "My girlfriend is a heroin addled hooker!" "BUBBLE YUM IS DOUBLE YUMMY GUM!!"
Looking forward to this!!!
I love you guys😊
I remember that the “Born Again” story arc brought me back to Daredevil. I was 15 when this hit the stands, and was falling out of love with the “ fights-n-tights “ style of comics. I had discovered the “ American Flagg :Hard Times “ trade paperback/graphic novel around that time and my sight picture had been expanded ( along with finding Bud Plant’s mail order comics, who was very Indy/underground centric. I’m old, and I lived-and still do - in Mississippi. NOT the hotbed of comics buying that you would think it would be ) but this Mazzuchelli guy took me right back to those early Miller/Jansen Daredevil issues that made me a fan! Mazzuchelli’s art was not what I was into at the time, but by issue three of the arc, I was HOOKED! Also, the “Iran/Contra “ scandal was a couple of years prior to this story arc. I watched Ollie North’s testimony on TV during my summer vacation. The two issues featuring Nuke really brought back those memories of governmental betrayal at the time. Miller was out for blood , and I’m surprised that he was able to get the arc through the editorial staff at Marvel! Great show guys, thanks for bringing those memories back to me!
So if kingpin knows Daredevil's identity (it's amazing the villain's NEVER reveal it to the world), how does he not know his identity in the current marvel setting where DD is in "jail"???
37:00 - that splash page with the implied catholic cross composition! Squint a bit if you don't see it at first. I think that's how I noticed it the first time - I saw the page out of the corner of my eye and noticed the large white cross and I was blown away.
And I just now noticed (at 48:41) for the final panel of the issue, at the very bottom of the panel we see a tiny cross hanging around Matt's neck.
the fun you guys have laughing about the outrageousness of some of the storyline (Nuke especially) makes this video priceless!
In the latest edition of the Born Again TPB they have the script for DD#233. I haven't read it yet so I don't know how or if Mazzuchelli changed it at all. But if you want to know about at least one issue, there it is.
Robocop also came out in ‘87. 86 he was everywhere and when that movie came out he was even more everywherere. His impact cannot be overstated.
The real Miller era begins. ...and I loved RONIN!
"The man without hope is the man without fear" is not remotely heavyhaded. It is what makes Miller the best ever at what he does and until you have the lived ethos to truly understand it, the expression will be just words
Great video by the way. You guys have a genuinely analytic approach to the material on levels I am lacking (various other comic lore and styles) while also neved deviating too far from the task at hand
a fan of mine sent me the trade of born again. i owned a first edition of the original trade that eventually got lost so the fan mail was much appreciated.
I misplaced my original TPB edition and bought a new one and I gotta say, I really don't like the slick paper for it. but watching this I feel like pulling out the artifact edition to look at again.
47:00 so apt to call out the bakshi influence there. Great observation.
Love the covering and the depth of which y'all do that. It translates really well and doesn't lose that personal experience with reading it in your bedroom when you were a kid!!! Awesome! Love daredevil
An incredibly satisfying 88 mins! Thanks for this.
Part of me says please make a movie about this. Another part says: better not.....
1:02:51 You're quite right about that page, Jim. On both collections I have of this story, a 1987 TPB and the DD by Miller Omnibus Companion, the art does bleed on that page. Furthermore, on the Omnibus extra material they reproduce the page as it was originally published, with this caption: "Daredevil #232, page 6 was art-corrected in the original comic to soften Karen Page's features at the request of then editor in chief Jim Shooter and also was placed incorrectly so that the artwork didn't run full bleed. The page as it originally ran is presented here for the sake of completeness." (personally, I couldn't see that much difference on Karen's features, btw).
Also, the Omnibus has the full script for issue 233 (kind of a weird choice, since is probably the weakest one... but worth checking out, anyway) and 24 pages of Mazzucchelli's rough pencils, seven of which aren't featured in IDW's Artist's Edition, including the page with the cab underwater.
Oh, I forgot to mention that 232's title page also bleeds on the Artist's Edition (as you will certainly notice) -- which is pretty unusual.
Let’s crack open that Artist’s Edition 🤘🏼
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Another great episode, 🔥💯🚀😎🏆
Yessssss a Mazzucchelli episode! More please!
Love this analysis
(Gasps)OOH.