Everything you need to know about Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971)

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  • @kibagami74
    @kibagami74 3 роки тому +98

    Gotta say, the practical effects make up for the Apes holds up almost 50 years later. They look great, no CGI needed just great actors under the make up.

    • @petermeyer6873
      @petermeyer6873 2 роки тому

      Absolutely, they are totally indistinguishable from real chimpansees - the size, the upright walk, the short arms and long legs, the faces, the missing fangs and the elvis hairstyle...not to mention their reluctance to throw around their own faeces when angry

    • @w9gb
      @w9gb 2 роки тому +3

      John Chambers won a Special Oscar for his work on Planet of the Apes.
      As seen in film “Argo”, he had a role during 1979 Iran Revolution.

    • @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal
      @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 2 роки тому +1

      It would be interesting to see the original films with modern cgi like in the new films

    • @richardparadis9962
      @richardparadis9962 Рік тому +2

      99

    • @Ashw1115
      @Ashw1115 Рік тому +2

      @@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormalThey would look good no doubt. I just feel like the endless capabilities with CGI would change the original stories. The original ones were in the 60’s and didn’t even have that big of a budget. There were supposed to be more to it.

  • @martinmowbray4304
    @martinmowbray4304 7 місяців тому +8

    First saw beneath at the pictures when it was first released. The cinema was packed. The ending was so sad that kids , myself included, I was eight I think, were crying. The adults were quiet , the whole cinema , was virtually silent as people left. A big contrast to the cheers when the movie started.

  • @JayStein777
    @JayStein777 3 роки тому +23

    One of the most moving and saddest movies ever made. I can't watch it now but I have seen it a few times.

  • @64andyjh
    @64andyjh 8 місяців тому +8

    It's a great movie, I've always loved it, but I can never quite get away from the idea that the apes could not possibly have even found Taylor's ship, much less salvaged it and made it airworthy again. It was at the bottom of a lake in the Forbidden Zone! Some have said it was Brent's ship that they found, but that was a burnt-out wreck, and would clearly never fly again. No, this story could not have transpired. Only in the days before video, rapid TV syndication and on-demand streaming, could film makers rely on the forgetfulness of their audience, and get away with such a gigantic hole in plot development.

    • @raymondcanessa7208
      @raymondcanessa7208 6 місяців тому +2

      Dr. Otto Hasslein knew it wouldn't work but didn't tell anyone. He programed the "Otto" the auto pilot to repair the Icarus and return the crew back to 1973. He was surprised when they found apes on the Icarus.

  • @mtrich8113
    @mtrich8113 3 роки тому +23

    When I saw this movie I was only 4 years old and they killed off Cornelius and Zira I remember leaving the drive-in wanting to cry but my mother reminded me was just a movie. She didn't want to take me to see the next movie because she figured it would upset me again, but when we got to see it we were all happy the Apes got Redemption over the humans. Please do a conquest and the battle for the Planet of the Apes.

  • @erictuxen
    @erictuxen 3 роки тому +51

    I really wish we could’ve seen that deleted sequence for the beginning of the film featuring the destruction of the earth… I love this film, have loved it since I first saw it as a kid on TV. Can’t get enough of those damn dirty ape‘s!

    • @smartcookie9159
      @smartcookie9159 3 роки тому +6

      I agree. If the footage still exists, the studio could easily add the missing SPX to the actors peering out of the spaceship.

    • @HerrEllsworth
      @HerrEllsworth 3 роки тому +2

      There are some stills that still exist.

    • @Paul_1971
      @Paul_1971 3 роки тому

      @@HerrEllsworth Is there a site these have been posted on?

    • @robd1329
      @robd1329 3 роки тому

      That would have been epic if they added it in! But i get why the intro had to be a surprise to all

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@smartcookie9159 here’s the footage
      ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

  • @jasona9
    @jasona9 3 роки тому +9

    1:12, "The script throws logic out the window".....AMEN. To enjoy this movie you MUST be able to say to yourself, "It's just a MOVIE, so go with it....."

  • @iska788
    @iska788 3 роки тому +27

    Very underrated film. I really liked it.

    • @thowen1988
      @thowen1988 3 роки тому +4

      Agreed; 'Escape' was my favorite of the original 4 sequels.

  • @fireinthesky3018
    @fireinthesky3018 11 місяців тому +9

    Cornelius loosing his temper and killing the waiter with his superior chimpanzee strength, is one thing they got right, rather than chimps being seen as cute harmless creatures... Different story now though.... Not seen as cute and harmless now but very formidable animals

  • @andrevillemaire5561
    @andrevillemaire5561 3 роки тому +9

    Roddy and kim were incredible actors which made these movies even better.
    I like these films better than the new planet of the apes...they were fun.

  • @TANKTREAD
    @TANKTREAD 2 роки тому +5

    Love Jerry Goldsmith's score to "Escape", which was directed by Don Taylor, who also directed "Damien: Omen II"(ALSO scored by Jerry Goldsmith).

  • @mathewinseal2317
    @mathewinseal2317 7 місяців тому +4

    Just watched this again after seeing it years ago as a child and can’t get away with how awful it was for zira to swap the chimp baby’s condemning the ‘normal’ chimp to death

  • @ricomajestic
    @ricomajestic 2 роки тому +6

    I liked the Ricardo Montalban character. He should've been explored further in Escape and Conquest. The same with Dr. Milo played by Sal Mineo who was killed off too soon.

  • @robguitarwizard
    @robguitarwizard 3 роки тому +20

    This was a great film. A reversal of the original film.
    In a way Beneath was the final movie; and Escape and the movies that followed were prequels. It was like a temporal paradox whereby the two apes go back in time and actually bring about the future of the earth as seen in the first two movies.

    • @johnbowles5399
      @johnbowles5399 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly. This is the only way to accurately view the timeline of the original series of films. The world being destroyed at the end of Beneath was the end, and Escape, Conquest and Battle all act as prequels telling the story of how the Apes world came to be in the first place. I personally love all the films in the franchise.

    • @roberttbrockway
      @roberttbrockway 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnbowles5399 that's what I had believed since I first saw the movies in the early 80s. I've read a few comments recently in which people suggest that the timeline was changed and thus the series actually ends on a positive note. I rewatched Escape, Conquest and Battle and I think they make a good case. Characters in all three refer to changing history through time travel. The argument is that Caesar displaced Aldo as the leader of the revolution and thus brought forth a gentler society.
      The main counter argument is that the statue of Caesar cries at the end of Battle right after the Law Giver says that the dead know the future.

    • @flexiblestrategist9922
      @flexiblestrategist9922 2 роки тому +1

      Correct. If you watch Beneath the Planet of the Apes was last in chronological order. Menendez, in Beaneath, was 27th generation when his father was 26 generations prior in Battle For the Planet of The Apes. Escape was actually the first in chronologiacl order since it took place in 1973 (although the film was made in '71 as you know) since it too two years for Austronaut Taylor's crew to be gone in space.

    • @Longi1974
      @Longi1974 2 роки тому +3

      The five films have a nice circular time paradox timeline. It would have been great if the films could have been tied in to each other a little better, but hindsight is a great thing. For example, it would have been a nice plot point to add in "Beneath" showing that Brent came alone to look for Taylor and didn't crash his ship, landing it safely just outside the Forbidden Zone. There could then be a scene where Doctor Milo finds the ship and goes inside, curiously pressing buttons etc. That could have closed the plot hole as to how the three apes managed to get a ship and come back in time in "Escape"

  • @yurikendal4868
    @yurikendal4868 Рік тому +3

    I like how the destruction of earth in this movie was described

  • @Laceykat66
    @Laceykat66 3 роки тому +12

    The film was a reflection of the changes in Hollywood going on at the time. It was one of a generation of dark and dystopian looks at the future based on cultural changes (some real and others just imagined) of the time. Hollywood would get so obsessed with this that the public ran to films like Star Wars when they came out.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 3 роки тому +3

      True true. The early 70s was the last holdout of the Golden Age of Hollywood which got replaced by New Hollywood's Spielberg and Lucas lol

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +3

      Soylent Green, Logan's Run, Omega Man, Clockwork Orange, THX-1138 among other dystopian movies were getting pumped out regularly. These and disaster movies were all the rage when I was a kid. Then Spielberg did JAWS and these types of moves were passe and killer animals were now all the rage.

    • @Laceykat66
      @Laceykat66 Рік тому

      @@Rockhound6165 Very true and remember that the SciFi movies were the end of it all and depression films. Irwin Allen was still churning out disaster hits where people banded together and solved the crisis before them.

    • @MrEab2010
      @MrEab2010 Рік тому +2

      most films had a very downbeat mood from 1968 until Rocky came out in 1976, which I now consider to be the movie that ushered in Reaganism.

  • @ATLcentury334
    @ATLcentury334 3 роки тому +6

    I was a huge POTA fan when I was a pre teen. I had all of the plastic model kits, the comic books, and the hard to find red, tin, trash can in my bedroom. I think I drove my parents crazy over my obsession. One thing I loved was the local ABC affiliate in Detroit, where I grew up, had an afternoon movie before the evening news. They always ran “Planet of the Apes” week in February every year. It just so happened it was shown the week of my birthday, it was like an extra birthday treat for me when I was a boy. Every once in a while I’ll watch the original first movie and remember how excited I’d get every time I saw it. I remember how disappointed I was when the television series was canceled when I was in junior high. After that, I lost interest in all things ape, and discovered disco music. I remember the year “Dick Clark’s Rockin’ New Years Eve” featured a new group called “The Village People”. I was more than curious, realizing my crush on James Franciscus was a little more involved than I wanted to admit. In the mis 80’s, I found myself invited to an after party for TVP. I could hardly believe that the young boy who loved POTA, was a few years later meeting and socializing with The Village People. It’s been a weird life.

    • @CommanderShepard-wq3wo
      @CommanderShepard-wq3wo 11 місяців тому

      You had a crush on a guy? Idk dude, that sounds pretty gay
      Lol, jokes aside, you’ve had quite a life so far. Cheers for many more happy years lad 🍻

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +2

    I got to see the first 4 movies during their theatrical releases. The first 3 were at our local drive in with my family and the 4th was in a regular theater.

  • @somarriba333
    @somarriba333 7 місяців тому +1

    I thought there was only one movie called "Plane of the Apes" when I was growing up. It wasn't until high school that a friend told me there were sequels. I had no idea there were 5 films until I watched them all in college and was BLOWN away by how good they were. Some were better than others but when you watch them all back to back, it's a great story.

  • @BanthaPooDoo64
    @BanthaPooDoo64 3 місяці тому

    The 3rd film I’ve always had a struggled with ,it’s not my favorite but you can’t really do without it ,it’s the main film that ties the beginning and the end ,it’s the centerpiece of this masterpiece done so many years ago that still holds up.

  • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
    @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 3 роки тому +51

    Definitely my favorite of the Apes sequels. Entertaining like the original, and not as boring as Beneath. Kim Hunter is always a joy to watch as Zira

    • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
      @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 3 роки тому +4

      @Robert Croes that wasn't the most boring part. The most boring part was the Ape protest and how we were meant to take James Franciscus' performance as a bootleg Taylor seriously

    • @smartcookie9159
      @smartcookie9159 3 роки тому +3

      Escape is the most family-friendly out of all the Apes movies, though it does pull a dark ending punch. But it's also the most hoaky out of the series. Personally, I much prefer Beneath over this cash-grab movie.

    • @raoularmagnac2037
      @raoularmagnac2037 3 роки тому +2

      I think that Beneath is perhaps the most UNDERRATED of the original Planet of the Apes movies. But Battle was probably the worst. It was totally anti-climactic. It was just an unnecessary sequel (much like Toy Story 4!). 🦍

    • @raoularmagnac2037
      @raoularmagnac2037 3 роки тому +1

      @Enzo 1965 Are you talking about the original script for Beneath or Escape? What was the difference between Paul Dean's treatment and what we actually got on the screen? Just wondering . . . 🤔

    • @generalyellor2187
      @generalyellor2187 3 роки тому +4

      @@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 The "Ape protest" lasted all of a thirty-second shot, so you must bore easily.

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot 3 роки тому +11

    It's great to see them working with a smaller budget and having to be a bit more creative with the story.

  • @aspeltaofkush3540
    @aspeltaofkush3540 2 роки тому +2

    That damn "Grape Juice Plus" made Zira spill the beans.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 роки тому +31

    And what do you think of our women?
    Very human.

  • @ergodoy7741
    @ergodoy7741 3 роки тому +5

    I noticed up use the theme to UFO in the closing credits - now that is one series I’d really like to see explored in depth.

  • @ersturdevant2831
    @ersturdevant2831 3 роки тому +11

    Favorite sequel. Ending is dark and very "Twilight Zone." Good vid!

    • @raoularmagnac2037
      @raoularmagnac2037 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, indeed. I think it truly is the VERY best of the 4 sequels. 🦍

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 3 роки тому

      Ah, a wink wot Rod Serling.

    • @raoularmagnac2037
      @raoularmagnac2037 3 роки тому +3

      @@heedmywarning2792 Well, Rod Serling DID write the first script for the original Planet of the Apes movie. 🦍

  • @TheRadioAteMyTV
    @TheRadioAteMyTV 3 роки тому +17

    "I don't like bananas".
    Favourite line in the movie.
    Second favourite line, "Momma, momma".

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis 3 роки тому +39

    I believe Aldo WAS meant to be the leader of the Ape revolution, but then Ceasar came in and took that away from him. If Also HAD lead the revolution, we would have gotten the Apes society we saw in the first film. But since Ceasar lead it instead, the timeline has changed.

    • @jptaylor
      @jptaylor 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly. Well put, and a very accurate observation.

    • @johnnyd3158
      @johnnyd3158 Рік тому +1

      Great observation, I didn’t expect to find Hewy Toonmore here of all places, lol.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Рік тому +2

      Also, if you listen to Cornelius and Zira's telling of the ape uprising, Aldo led the revolution 300 or 400 years later than when Caesar did in Conquest. IIRC Caesar's rise was in Conquest was in the 1980's while Cornelius and Zira kept on referring to the ape evolution happening over a period of centuries.

    • @errolthomas9426
      @errolthomas9426 Рік тому +1

      @@Rockhound6165 It was in 1991 when Caesar rose

  • @alexallan-musicaaovivo500
    @alexallan-musicaaovivo500 6 місяців тому

    "Escape" is a great movie because it showed apes being the alien beings in a human world, reversing the first movie's premise. A wonderful concept turned into a compelling film.

  • @johnmiller7682
    @johnmiller7682 3 роки тому +7

    Yes, Cornelius did say Aldo. That's why, in the 5th film, the ending makes it clear that, if Aldo had gained control, he would have killed the humans. But, because Cesar maintained control, they lived and became equal to apes again. The narration even points out that history can be changed.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 3 роки тому

      That makes sense but I always assumed that the ape historians overtime wrote Caesar out of the books and praised Aldo who was militant towards the humans that they hated. The 5th film ending takes place in like 2600 AD which is still a long while until the 4000s and that statue of Ceasar crying alluded to this new peace between humans and apes wouldnt last and thus being a time paradox

    • @generalyellor2187
      @generalyellor2187 3 роки тому

      No. It was accidental that Claude Akins' character in the 5th film shared the same name as the ape that said "No!" That's in every book I've read about the series.

    • @jptaylor
      @jptaylor 2 роки тому

      Aldo was in the 4th film, “Conquest”, but did not speak and wasn’t really a featured character at all. An error I think on the writer’s part - that would have tied the storyline together much better if Aldo had been featured. It was the Roddy McDowall show unfortunately, and a little more spreading of the wealth as far as the script was concerned would have made things much better. Still a great film and and series, though. My all-time favorite.

    • @frankmarkovcijr5459
      @frankmarkovcijr5459 2 роки тому +1

      The explanation of the restoration of the Starship is simple Taylor spoke of being a space Traveler and I can imagine dr. Zaius and the Imperial Senate ordering troops to be sent out into the forbidden zone to see if there was any truth to the matter of the spaceship it was a threat to the security of the Simeon state that had to be investigated and alleviated the ship could have washed ashore and therefore would be investigated by one of their top chimpanzee scientist Milo could have found technical manuals in the ship that explain the functions of the various controls the ship was in one piece with the launch segment when it sank the Shockwave of Earth's destruction could have separated the two parts of the vessel catapulting the control cabin backwards into the past Landon might have been interrogated by the ape governments before they surgically killed him in the comic book Edition he is interrogated by the Apes

    • @frankmarkovcijr5459
      @frankmarkovcijr5459 2 роки тому +2

      They knew they could not give Sarah and Cornelius a happy ending it was given a realistic ending and that's what made it so good for it to have a happy ending would have been false and phony

  • @angelaasfour1056
    @angelaasfour1056 11 місяців тому +1

    I Totally! agree, I love the planet off the Apes1,3 4. the best & I have and love the TV series. I wish it ran longer than 3 months😢 thank you for the video😍😃💜

  • @alexandermacdougall7873
    @alexandermacdougall7873 3 роки тому +9

    Really enjoying your reviews of my favorite movies ever!

  • @MeNoOther
    @MeNoOther 6 місяців тому +1

    The astronaut from the 2nd film said that he can get his ship working and launch into space.
    His ship was the one on the beach, not Taylor's

  • @bentramer682
    @bentramer682 3 роки тому +4

    I'm glad this is such a favorite, it's perfectly cute as well as dark and exciting.

  • @SciHeartJourney
    @SciHeartJourney 3 роки тому +4

    Dr. Zira didn't just "dissect" human beings; she "vivisected" them 😱
    That means they were still alive while she was CARVING then up. Yikes! Watch the movie and listen to her if you don't believe it.

  • @roberttbrockway
    @roberttbrockway 2 роки тому +2

    Some members of Ape society did know the truth about humans. Cornelius says he learnt about it in ancient scrolls. It would have been better to have him explain that Dr Zaius told him the truth. After Cornelius and Zira saw the talking human doll at the end of Planet of the Apes he may as well have come clean with them - and swear them to secrecy.

  • @Markie-lc2es
    @Markie-lc2es 3 роки тому +9

    The idea of injecting a family-friendly, light-hearted, funny episode into a Sci-Fi series was repeated with the movie The Voyage Home in the Star Trek franchise in 1986.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @Markie2000 my favorite of all the Trek movies. Spock doing the nerve pinch to the punk on the bus, people clapped in the cinema

  • @ersturdevant2831
    @ersturdevant2831 3 роки тому +22

    Request review of "Fantastic Planet."

    • @brianskirk
      @brianskirk 3 роки тому +1

      Yes! That would be amazing.

  • @joedurran3122
    @joedurran3122 3 роки тому +3

    Wow I can’t hear Kim Hunters voice without hearing Zira

  • @scott1178
    @scott1178 3 роки тому +18

    To this day I still cannot watch the end scene when they die. It just breaks my heart. Cornelius falling was just brutal. My major issue with the movie is that our heroes were somehow able to FIND the ship, much less raise it, repair it and somehow get it to launch into orbit. There's just no good explanation for that. Even if Milo was some kind of engineer what the heck did he know about rocketry and space craft?!

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 2 роки тому +6

      He'd have to first locate the ship, repair it back to usable form (it was at the bottom of the lake in a place called the forbidden zone), figure out and manufacture the rocket fuel, build the launch vehicle (what landed on Earth was just the crew compartment), repair or build the astronaut suits, launch the rocket and then navigate it in such a way so that it would travel through space and time and land back on Earth, something that even the original astronauts had no idea or intention of doing. This would all have to happen in a few seconds after the doomsday missile launched and before it exploded and destroyed the world, presumably. This is what happens when the accountants get a hold of the script.

    • @gkroll8467
      @gkroll8467 2 роки тому +1

      Your right one ship was in the water the other ship crashed in land no way they could have gotten off the planet

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@HC-cb4yp the “shock wave” of Earth’s destruction causing the space ship to travel back in time doesn’t even follow the laws of physics, since according to Heston in POTA the spaceship traveled at near light speed and was capable of future time travel, not back in time and the “deleted” rocket escape opening is still on UA-cam ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 2 роки тому

      @@gkroll8467 I forgot about the ship that crashed on land. I take it all back.

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 2 роки тому

      @@ObamaFromKenya Thanks for the link! I'm glad they thought to TRY and explain it. I think sci fi types just need an ATTEMPT at explaining the unexplainable...

  • @stevestone6622
    @stevestone6622 2 роки тому +4

    A very well conceived project and the beginning of the pardox the movies together represent. Sad and thought provoking McDowell and Hunter are incredible in the roles. Not my favorite because the ending is very hard to watch but continues the dark endings set by the first film and is in every film but the last

  • @seanabbins5481
    @seanabbins5481 3 роки тому +3

    I agree with your positive review of this movie, and the point that Kim Hunter and Roddy M were excellent; they are very underrated actors and their performances really elevated this movie. I was always curious about the point Cornelius made about how their society remembered their history; my assumption was that he was making that up because he didn't want the humans to think that the ape society was ignorant of the past or that he had been struggling to bring the truth against the establishment that didn't want the truth to come out. In other words, he lied to give the humans a different impression of what the reality was. I suppose it could have been a continuity error, but it would be too glaring an error, since the oppression of history was such a major theme in the first movie.

  • @CaesiusX
    @CaesiusX 3 роки тому +2

    I adore these films - _faults and all!_ This one in particular holds a place in my heart. If only because I used to have the book and record. I listened to that so many times as a kid. 👱🏻‍♂️ Thanks for another great video!

  • @fazole
    @fazole 3 роки тому +4

    My favorite one in the series!

  • @BanthaPooDoo64
    @BanthaPooDoo64 3 місяці тому

    It would’ve been nice if they would’ve some how placed Taylor and his crew boarding their ship ,then taking of and later a report “Astronaut’s lost in space” then the Apes arrive and they think it’s the crew returning back to Earth. The capsule is retrieved and out walks the apes. Now that would been a hell of a dramatic opening.

  • @northshore1000
    @northshore1000 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video! I learned a few new things, and I thought that at 59 years old I’d read & heard everything!

  • @jerseyforhawks
    @jerseyforhawks 3 роки тому +8

    The space ship recovery scheme was quite a stretch, this flick then devolving into a fish out of water romp.....my least favorite in series.

    • @ghshinn
      @ghshinn 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, but you've got to suspend your disbelief with a film like this. To analyze it scientifically is going to ruin it. All in all, I liked it.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@ghshinn this was as they say in the video a “re set” film to begin the series again. BTW the actual escape from future Earth in Charlton Heston’s spaceship sequence is on UA-cam ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

  • @TheDivotking1
    @TheDivotking1 3 роки тому +3

    Always thorough and great stills sir. Keep up the good work
    Cheers from🇨🇦

  • @gorcsauce696
    @gorcsauce696 3 роки тому +2

    I think it was aldo which explains why it took longer for them in the og time line for apes to take over cuz it would be more natural. Since they went back in time and has birth to baby that’s advance which speeded up the whole process of take over and since Cesar leads now changed the out come of the original timeline making humans and apes live peacefully . Pretty much a time loop

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @Kevin Lujan you have to suspend your belief in the laws of physics but then this is science fiction

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 3 роки тому +7

    I was a child and cried so hard when they were killed.

  • @aaronlawrence666
    @aaronlawrence666 3 роки тому +2

    Always enjoy your content. The way you present it really brings on the nostalgia. Thanks.

  • @markymark3572
    @markymark3572 Рік тому +3

    It was a decent sequel, but it was a real stretch of belief to believe that the apes could have retrieved & repaired Taylor's sunken ship & then launch it into space

    • @richardruff8712
      @richardruff8712 10 місяців тому

      Scanning through all the comments on this ( and other similar videos ) it seems that many viewers are asking about HOW was the Icarus ship actually powered, and HOW did the 3 Apes manage to get away from the Earth, just before our hero Taylor destroyed the planet ? Whenever anyone asks, I am putting the following explanation... Hope this makes sense...
      Please google... Liberty 2 Lander... and check out images... On the original POTA film, we never saw the lower half of the ship...The theory is that, when contact was lost with Taylor, then Earth sent out TWO rescue ships... One was a 4 man crew ship, the same as Taylor's ship, piloted by Skipper ( with 3 empty seats ), and the other was a 3 man crew ship, piloted by Brent ( with 2 empty seats )... So now we are at the start of Beneath the POTA film, and Skipper's ship has crashed on the desert... Note that we never see Brent's ship, but we must assume that it landed successfully in the upright position... Move forward to the end, where Taylor presses the doomsday button... We can assume that Brent told Cornelius, Zira and Milo where his ship was located, and that all they had to do was to go on board, and sit back and press the auto-pilot button, and the ship would take off and return to Earth... So, our hero Taylor has destroyed the Earth, and the 3 Apes have witnessed it, as they take off ( As Zira described watching the horizon turn orange )... Now we start the film Escape from the POTA, and we see Brent's 3 man crew ship being pulled out of the water ( Note... NOT Taylor's 4 man crew ship )... I think this is the only possible explanation as to how the 3 Apes return to Earth in a different ship to Taylor's ship...

  • @odysseusrex5908
    @odysseusrex5908 3 роки тому +4

    It would have been so easy to overcome the big discontinuity concerning apes' knowledge of their culture's origins. The original movie, while making it quite clear that apes in general do not know the truth, very strongly suggests that Zaius did know, at least much of it. Roddy McDowall's dialog should have been written to have him say that Zaius told them about it before setting off to the Forbidden Zone, or that they found the records afterwards.
    One thing that was also not explained, and maybe could not have been, was exactly when and why the three chimps found and took flight in the space ship (was it Taylor's or Brent's?). maybe something was established in the deleted scene, but they can have had no idea that the world was literally about to end. It would be interesting to know if they had intentionally gone back in time, just on an exploratory mission, or if they had some other reason for wanting to escape from their own place and time.
    I always wondered why the character of Milo was even in the story, since he was killed off so soon and barely any lines. He served no purpose to the story. It is interesting to learn that he originally had a more prominent part but Mineo decided he wanted out.

    • @Pascalore
      @Pascalore 2 роки тому +1

      Brent's ship was totally destroyed upon its landing (and nobody knew where his ship was) so it was Taylor's that had to be used but it isn't a launch vehicle. Milo's only purpose was to present the character who made the trip possible but in no way was it possible for their tech to make that happen.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@Pascalore @Odysseus Rex the deleted scene exists on UA-cam and shows a rocket launching Taylor’s capsule into orbit moments before Taylor detonates the doomsday weapon and Earth is destroyed. So somehow the apes created a rocket with fuel, fixed the spacesuits, and escaped just in time, then the shock wave of the earth’s destruction flung the space ship back in time . Hard to believe.
      ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 3 роки тому +6

    Every film was going to be the last in the series, including the original.

  • @baronvg
    @baronvg 3 роки тому +1

    Omfg, I’m listening to this video with headphones and when Kim Hunter starts talking, it felt like she was hovering over my left shoulder!!! 😂 It scared the shirt out of me!

  • @andhe
    @andhe 3 роки тому +9

    Incidentally she was married to one of the producers... 😆 Might explain why she kept getting cast.

    • @TheWrongHands18
      @TheWrongHands18 3 роки тому +2

      She is in the same amount of films as Roddy Mcdowell. Roddy is not in Beneath and she is not in the first movie.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@TheWrongHands18 are we talking about Linda Harrison who was Nova? Linda was married to Hollywood big shot and producer Richard Zanuck

  • @godmaentertainment4375
    @godmaentertainment4375 Рік тому

    I get the same vibe from original POTA, Star Trek, and Twilight Zone, they can be friendly but there is this darkness...doom. As well, the acting story and character was usually more important than FX.

  • @NodDisciple1
    @NodDisciple1 Рік тому +1

    11:17 I have an idea to fix this in future stories if they ever go back to the original series. This holiday was from much earlier in ape history and Cornelius learned about it. It was forgotten over time either simply due to how things are often forgotten over the span of centuries or the government simply buried it because of how "offensive" it was to apes of that era that they were ever dumb brutes serving the now dumb humans. Even with the "triumph" narrative tacked on that was a part of the history. Also, the names of people change over time and maybe Aldo's kin/descendants purposefully changed that narrative to make him the hero instead of Caesar. Look at what rl humans have done throughout the ages. Would this be any different?

  • @merrillslaven6921
    @merrillslaven6921 3 роки тому +1

    Rewatch the first movie. Dr. Zaius admits that they knew the truth about man for a long time but suppressed it.

  • @ergodoy7741
    @ergodoy7741 3 роки тому +1

    Great info - I loved the 3rd and 4th movies in the series. Especially salient today.

  • @cheddarcheese7928
    @cheddarcheese7928 3 роки тому +4

    As A kid I remember being disturbed at the way Cornelius died being shot.The way his cheeks puffed out..Good acting!

    • @TheWrongHands18
      @TheWrongHands18 3 роки тому +2

      I was a kid too. Disturbing. He blasts the little baby too. I hate Eric Braeden to this day.

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 2 роки тому +1

    Nova survived and went back in time with her ape friends and had Taylor’s baby. That’s the canon ending.

  • @bukster1
    @bukster1 3 роки тому +2

    The Mad magazine parody of this film ends with the baby chimp yelling, "Tarzan, Jane! Get me out of here and into a respectable Tarzan movie"

  • @raymondcanessa7208
    @raymondcanessa7208 6 місяців тому

    Dr. Otto Hasslein knew it wouldn't work but didn't tell anyone. He programed the "Otto" the auto pilot to repair the Icarus and return the crew back to 1973. He was surprised when they found apes on the Icarus.

  • @FatPigInTheHouse
    @FatPigInTheHouse 3 роки тому +4

    Cornelius' memories change because they disrupted the timeline by going back.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @Michael DeRosa his memory of how they found Taylor’s spaceship at the bottom of a lake, repaired it, using their 18th century at best understanding of science, built a device to launch the ship moments before Taylor detonates the Doomsday weapon, watching the time calendar on the control panel and realizing they are traveling through time, you mean those memories? The spaceship sequence still exists here’s the link ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

  • @MoonjumperReviews
    @MoonjumperReviews 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! Was not aware that the "Dr. Milo" actor had been murdered. Very sad. "Escape" is actually my favorite of all the "Planet of the Apes" films. I recently rewatched the entire series of movies, the television series, and the animated series--and Escape still remains my favorite. It's also interesting in that it appears to create a divergence point in the timeline, one which becomes even more apparent in the following two films--which appear to portray a second timeline in which humans and apes coexist (somewhat) more equally in the sense that humans remain intelligent, if somewhat second class. That trend carries on into the live action television series, which more or less picks up down the road from where "Battle" left off (with the minor continuity issue that dogs are a little less extinct than Ricardo Montalban let on in "Conquest," but he may have been exaggerating). :-)

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому +1

      @Moonjumper Reviews: Who Cares What I Think the actor playing Dr Milo couldn’t stand to be in the ape makeup and said he was leaving production so the writers killed him off

    • @MoonjumperReviews
      @MoonjumperReviews 2 роки тому

      @@ObamaFromKenya Kind of eerily prophetic, wasn’t it.

  • @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339
    @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339 3 роки тому +1

    Slight problem. At the end of the original film, Dr. Zayus (or however you spell it) revealed to Zira and Cornelius that it WAS known that Humans were once the masters.

  • @Sisterspike1
    @Sisterspike1 3 роки тому +1

    I loved all the POTA films. Back in the day I was a real are 'nut'. I saw all the movies and collected much of the abundant merchandise that filled the toy shops back then. I also still now a couple of used Apes make-up appliances. One from the TV series and one from the second movie. They're now crunchy as hell, but I still treasure them. lol

  • @michaelschramm1064
    @michaelschramm1064 3 роки тому +5

    It bears mentioning again that Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel incorporates more story elements and plot devices into “Escape” than it does in the original film-the pregnancy, the zoo incarceration, the interrogation, the high order of civilization experienced by the “astronauts”, the caring of the “offspring”, the council hearing...and most especially the revelations about man and ape roles/evolution in the distant past. The original novel comes highly recommended!

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah true. I remember reading the book as a freshman and being surprised that the Ape society was already technologically advanced and they didnt even speak English. Ulysses tries to prove himself to the ape leaders who hear him out but become paranoid that he and his future son will eventually create a human rebellion

  • @IggyStardust1967
    @IggyStardust1967 3 роки тому

    You know, I really wish I could hit the Like button every time I watch these.

  • @cathyvickers9063
    @cathyvickers9063 3 роки тому +1

    Back when the TV show Planet of the Apes was on, I often fantasized that the history established in the movie sequels led to an alternate timeline...

  • @wendelljoelpeters2534
    @wendelljoelpeters2534 3 роки тому +5

    Good movie.

  • @ThePiratemachine
    @ThePiratemachine Рік тому

    Thought I saw Albert Salmi in there. Could be wrong. Thx Jonny. Good one.

  • @randybarnett2308
    @randybarnett2308 3 роки тому +5

    Final Countdown, Whoa imagine instead of going into the past to pearl harbor, what if that anomaly sent the Nimitz to the future, and at time of the planet of the Apes !!! The Ape Army would have no answer to that !! Maybe those mutants would use mind control over the crew, but probably not. Would've made for a cool movie.

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 3 роки тому +1

      PLEASE don't give Hollywood writers any ideas. They have dragged both series so thin you can see right through them already.

    • @HerrEllsworth
      @HerrEllsworth 3 роки тому +2

      I loved the Final Countdown. It played like a two-hour Twilight Zone.

    • @gregsmith7949
      @gregsmith7949 3 роки тому

      @@HerrEllsworth Yes! Agree 100%

  • @mackermaldrill2656
    @mackermaldrill2656 Рік тому +1

    Suspending reality is an understatement. They would have no technology to fix the ship, let alone launch it.

    • @tbnone2501
      @tbnone2501 Рік тому

      The Ape Space Program was the most secretive of Dr. Zaius’s dark projects. If the Gorillas ever discovered it, it would be the end of him 😮

  • @danielmchale8627
    @danielmchale8627 Рік тому +1

    I liked Milo because he explains time traveling...

  • @generalyellor2187
    @generalyellor2187 3 роки тому +1

    After three of the Apes videos, I've grown accustomed to your endearing "Plana" of the Apes and also forgive you for your near-universal mispronunciations of all the character names along with your countless factual inaccuracies.

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis 3 роки тому +2

    Please do Conquest of the Planet of the Apes.

  • @musicbrush9231
    @musicbrush9231 3 місяці тому

    I agree. The first was the best, I didn't like the second, but the third I did enjoy apart from the ending. The fourth, I really routed for the apes and the fifth I have to question why it exists.

  • @lathan.
    @lathan. Рік тому +1

    Saw this aged 6 on a double bill with the original, bizarrely they showed them out of order and we watched this b4 the original which kinda ruined the twist ending of the original.

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 3 роки тому +3

    How did the Apes launch Taylor's descent ship into orbit without the booster rockets?

    • @tsopmocful1958
      @tsopmocful1958 3 роки тому +1

      I wonder even more about how they could possibly find and retrieve it from the bottom of a lake in the middle of the Forbidden Zone, and repair it as well all in a very short time.
      But luckily, off screen events kind of work like a type of magic in Hollywood films, so no further explanations are required.

    • @Bill23799
      @Bill23799 3 роки тому +1

      @@tsopmocful1958 I was considering there was an earthquake causing a land shift and the lake to drain.

    • @richardruff8712
      @richardruff8712 10 місяців тому

      It wasn't Taylor's ship !!!! It was Brent's fully operational 3 seater ship... Scanning through all the comments on this ( and other similar videos ) it seems that many viewers are asking about HOW was the Icarus ship actually powered, and HOW did the 3 Apes manage to get away from the Earth, just before our hero Taylor destroyed the planet ? Whenever anyone asks, I am putting the following explanation... Hope this makes sense...
      Please google... Liberty 2 Lander... and check out images... On the original POTA film, we never saw the lower half of the ship...The theory is that, when contact was lost with Taylor, then Earth sent out TWO rescue ships... One was a 4 man crew ship, the same as Taylor's ship, piloted by Skipper ( with 3 empty seats ), and the other was a 3 man crew ship, piloted by Brent ( with 2 empty seats )... So now we are at the start of Beneath the POTA film, and Skipper's ship has crashed on the desert... Note that we never see Brent's ship, but we must assume that it landed successfully in the upright position... Move forward to the end, where Taylor presses the doomsday button... We can assume that Brent told Cornelius, Zira and Milo where his ship was located, and that all they had to do was to go on board, and sit back and press the auto-pilot button, and the ship would take off and return to Earth... So, our hero Taylor has destroyed the Earth, and the 3 Apes have witnessed it, as they take off ( As Zira described watching the horizon turn orange )... Now we start the film Escape from the POTA, and we see Brent's 3 man crew ship being pulled out of the water ( Note... NOT Taylor's 4 man crew ship )... I think this is the only possible explanation as to how the 3 Apes return to Earth in a different ship to Taylor's ship...

    • @richardruff8712
      @richardruff8712 10 місяців тому

      @@tsopmocful1958 It wasn't Taylor's ship !!!! It was Brent's fully operational 3 seater ship... HOW did the 3 Apes manage to get away from the Earth, just before our hero Taylor destroyed the planet ? Whenever anyone asks, I am putting the following explanation... Hope this makes sense...
      Please google... Liberty 2 Lander... and check out images... On the original POTA film, we never saw the lower half of the ship...The theory is that, when contact was lost with Taylor, then Earth sent out TWO rescue ships... One was a 4 man crew ship, the same as Taylor's ship, piloted by Skipper ( with 3 empty seats ), and the other was a 3 man crew ship, piloted by Brent ( with 2 empty seats )... So now we are at the start of Beneath the POTA film, and Skipper's ship has crashed on the desert... Note that we never see Brent's ship, but we must assume that it landed successfully in the upright position... Move forward to the end, where Taylor presses the doomsday button... We can assume that Brent told Cornelius, Zira and Milo where his ship was located, and that all they had to do was to go on board, and sit back and press the auto-pilot button, and the ship would take off and return to Earth... So, our hero Taylor has destroyed the Earth, and the 3 Apes have witnessed it, as they take off ( As Zira described watching the horizon turn orange )... Now we start the film Escape from the POTA, and we see Brent's 3 man crew ship being pulled out of the water ( Note... NOT Taylor's 4 man crew ship )... I think this is the only possible explanation as to how the 3 Apes return to Earth in a different ship to Taylor's ship...

  • @HC-cb4yp
    @HC-cb4yp 2 роки тому +1

    Can't help but feel they jumped the shark a bit on this one. Studio execs think you can do anything with the story because 'science fiction' but for sci-fi to work, you have to remain true to the universe you've created with it. This movie broke that.

    • @joebloggs396
      @joebloggs396 Рік тому

      They suddenly made it a comedy, no fantasy at all compared to the first two.

  • @BlackAdder1970
    @BlackAdder1970 3 роки тому +2

    Escape from the Planet of the Apes was undoubtedly the weakest of the 5.
    The virus that killed all the dogs and cats is the virus that Cornelius, Zira, and Milo bring back from the furure.
    I didn't at first really care for Beneath but after several viewings its quite good. Conquest was probably my second favorite after The original Apes movie.

    • @joebloggs396
      @joebloggs396 Рік тому

      I just watched both back to back today. Beneath still had fantasy, Escape is largely a comedy. It's such a weird turn and after the first two it's disappointing.

  • @DiamandaHagan
    @DiamandaHagan 3 роки тому +3

    Planet, Escape and Conquest are one of the great scifi trilogies.

    • @generalyellor2187
      @generalyellor2187 3 роки тому +1

      Uh, first, there were five films. Second, Beneath came after Planet, so your list is certainly not a "trilogy" except that it is three films.

    • @DiamandaHagan
      @DiamandaHagan 3 роки тому

      @@generalyellor2187 You missed that I was insulting Battle and Conquest by pretending they don't exist?

    • @thomasjefferson4267
      @thomasjefferson4267 3 роки тому

      @@DiamandaHagan you mean Beneath and Battle, cuz you mentioned Conquest 😬

    • @DiamandaHagan
      @DiamandaHagan 3 роки тому

      @@thomasjefferson4267 Well played, Mr President.

    • @TowGunner
      @TowGunner 3 роки тому +1

      After all these years, I’m still impressed how Dr. Milo was able to salvage Taylor’s ship and no less program it and launch it. Perhaps, he cannibalized Brent’s ship lol

  • @godmaentertainment4375
    @godmaentertainment4375 Рік тому

    Watched it last week, seen them all before... It reminds me of Star Trek Voyage Home.
    Escape is note worthy for being one of the best 3rd instalments in movieland history, like Dream Warriors and Dawn of the Dead (original) and even better than The search for Spock.

  • @mikenayers5981
    @mikenayers5981 3 роки тому +2

    Escape’s mention of Aldo may not be a contradiction.
    It’s been argued that Aldo would’ve started the revolution, had Cornelius and Zira not made it to the past. So the takeover happened under different circumstances, suggesting they’re no longer bound to the future of the first two films.
    I prefer looking at it that way, because casual loops make no sense.

    • @Mike-0201
      @Mike-0201 3 роки тому

      Great Scott, a time paridox!!!!

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @@Mike-0201 are you telling me you built a time machine out of a Delorean

  • @theflorgeormix
    @theflorgeormix 3 роки тому +1

    Good thought provoking one. Apes haunting and captivating.

  • @johnbowles5399
    @johnbowles5399 2 роки тому +4

    I would argue that the character of Dr Hasslein wasn't a 'villain' anymore than the character of Dr Zaius was a 'villain' in the original film. Both protagonists did what they thought was best on behalf of their respective species. Hasslein tried to prevent the Apes world from ever happening because he knew that humans would end up as nothing more than sport, slaves and experimental subjects by the ruling Apes. You can hardly view him as a villain for wanting to prevent that from happening, at least I don't.

    • @fuzzballzz36
      @fuzzballzz36 2 роки тому +3

      Neither is a protagonist. The protagonist of the original film was Taylor; the protagonists of Escape were Zira and Cornelius. If Zaius and Hasslein are not antagonists they are very close. I can understand Hasslein not wanting us to be reduced to slavery, but he did not need to resort to murder to do it. Zaius was also willing to kill or surgically butcher Taylor for similar reasons. I'd say they sound like antagonists.

    • @johnbowles5399
      @johnbowles5399 2 роки тому

      @@fuzzballzz36 You are right of course. I should have said antagonist rather than protagonist, but my point still stands. Hasslein may be the antagonist in Escape, but he's hardly a villain in the traditional sense when you consider his motivations and what was at stake for the human race.

    • @fuzzballzz36
      @fuzzballzz36 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnbowles5399that's true. He wasn't purely evil or devoted only to his own ends.

  • @thoughtfuldevil6069
    @thoughtfuldevil6069 Рік тому +1

    This was the last good movie in the original series. Ironically, it's more similar to the Novel than the first film is!

  • @BronzeAgeBryon
    @BronzeAgeBryon 3 роки тому +8

    This is my wife's favorite in the franchise. I wish they would have used the spaceship view of the Earth's destruction. Seems odd that it would be excluded from the final cut.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @BronzeAgeBryon the spaceship view of Earth’s destruction is on UA-cam and violates laws of physics and common sense. How would the apes know there would be a shockwave created by the doomsday weapon Taylor ignites if they didn’t know it existed to begin with and why would a shock wave in space send a spaceship back in time. Now one of the apes says I don’t understand the ships clocks are reversing or something to that effect but if they had knowledge of s shockwave in space they didn’t understand time travel? The whole escape in Taylor’s spaceship which last seen was at the bottom of a lake in the Forbidden Zone is ridiculous
      ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

  • @bluesnags7711
    @bluesnags7711 3 роки тому +2

    Series started in time travel so the was obvious choice was to go back since earth was obliterated lol. I remember watching this movie very young, writing is pure genius.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @Blue Snags the writing is “genius” except the whole Dr Milo raising Taylor’s spaceship from the lake, repairing it, creating a launch device and escaping just as Taylor detonates the Doomsday weapon which creates a shockwave which sends Dr Milo who somehow has the 2 other apes with him, and they travel back to 1970s Southern California, that time travel ua-cam.com/video/XpxfnVIA5DM/v-deo.html

    • @bluesnags7711
      @bluesnags7711 2 роки тому

      @@ObamaFromKenya I know, I think they painted themselves in a corner on that one for sequels. Escape is still a great movie nontheless for what it is and it continued for two more. You might need to ignore some common knowledge and embrace the 70 sci fi.

  • @fuzzballzz36
    @fuzzballzz36 2 роки тому

    Good review, but just a couple of points: Dr. Lewis' last name was Dixon, not Stone; and the scientist's name is Hasslein (rhymes with 'fast line'), not 'Hesslin.'

  • @johnellizz
    @johnellizz 3 роки тому +1

    You could re-number these films so that 3, 4 and 5 become 1, 2 and 3 and then 1 and 2 become 4 and 5. That way the last movie ends with Earth being blown up.

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell 3 роки тому

    That changed narrative, about Aldo, leading a revolution, is plausible as a revision, because the first movie makes it clear that the leaders of the ape society had put a lot of work into suppressing their past. The only thing that doesn’t really track is, how the central characters suddenly know the details of a history that they only started to discover by the end of the first movie. I can’t remember the third one very well at all, being a kid when it was new. But, wasn’t there any, “patch,” scene? Maybe their stuffing some, previously undiscovered, “historical documents,” into their luggage, just before fleeing in their spacecraft? Probably not? I guess that ideas about respecting sci fi fans, and their strict notions of, “canon,” were not a thing in the early 70’s? Really enjoy your work. Thanks 👍

  • @starclone4
    @starclone4 3 роки тому

    I must agree... This was my second favorite, next to the original as well !!!!

  • @roberttbrockway
    @roberttbrockway 2 роки тому

    I'm thinking "Natalie Trundy was in four of the five films as supporting cast". Wow they must have loved her. Then we discover she was married to the producer. The pieces fall in to place.

    • @richardruff8712
      @richardruff8712 10 місяців тому

      Nepotism has always been popular !!!

  • @takingdaggers
    @takingdaggers 2 роки тому

    A prime example of a Bootstrap paradox.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 2 роки тому

      @John Schiermeister I’ve never been able to wrap my head around an event starting at year X traveling to the future than the sane event traveling to the PAST of year X

  • @rhondamurraylee6498
    @rhondamurraylee6498 3 роки тому

    I love the Apes franchise. Thanks heaps 🙂 Very informative 👍

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 3 роки тому

    Excellent. I agree and could not have said it better.

  • @PaulHagl
    @PaulHagl 3 роки тому +16

    Are you getting copyright grief from Fox? I noticed you reposted. I appreciate your work.