Eddie Van Halen said the exact same thing that Richie Blackmore said here. That there are probably a lot of great guitarist that we will never hear of. Some could be brilliant scientists or doctors. They just didn't want a career in music. If people know some guitar players. I bet some of thos guitar players you know are pretty good. Just didn't get that one break to be playing live or making albums.
The age of the rock star was a unique set of circumstances dictated by the society of the times the convergence of commerce, technology and cultural trends that I doubt we will ever see again, unfortunately. Those days are gone forever.
I agree but I actually kind of see this as a relief bc it means I actually have a chance to live out some semblance of my musical dreams by making music at home as a hobby with the dawn of tech/internet, and still live a normal life without having to endure the horrors of the music business, be on the road constantly, deal with ruthless cut throat industry people, and all the things that lifestyle entails. I can be a normal person and still have some sort of music career. It’s actually more fulfilling in many ways.
@@BasedGuitarist07 Sure but the enormous amounts of risk, determination, dedication and resilience and sometimes sheer endurance and audacity in the face of potential ruin and mortal danger are part of what made a rock star an iconic figure almost like a folkloric hero akin to a cowboy or gangster. A lot of that may remain in terms of hardship for those who take that path in the face of dwindling opportunities with sadly even less potential rewards in terms of notoriety, fame and fortune. It just isn't worth it anymore these days.
@ To each their own I guess. People are built different. I commend those who are built for that lifestyle. It’s just not me. I DO like to get out and get a taste of the action every now and then, but I like to be able to turn it off whenever I want and retreat back to my hole lol… so the online hobbyist musician life is for me
Playing with other musicians is a lot different to playing along to a record too. However that's not always fun if there's no benign dictator band leader or too many egos in the band. In addition carting gear in and out of p!ss and sawdust clubs via dog 💩 infested alleys takes stamina, as does playing a 3 hour set to keep the crowd happy.
Exactly. I've had enough experiences with ego tripping band leaders. The bad part in most cases is that they're mediocre musicians at best. When everybody gels,it can be great.
@@ral8031 He's the Chief song writer of Deep Purple and Rainbow...He, like Iommi and page was the inventor of guitar/riff based rock music....all that followed merely imitated, some good, some bad, but all derivative. He is more than a mere guitarist.
@@jonathanross812 Exactly, and when people get that through their thick skulls they'll realize his brilliance.But probably not.....he gets a bad rap because of his personality ( "what that?!! how DARE he say that?!!" ) etc. but the fact remains he's a part of the 3 guitarists ( Page & Iommi as you correctly observed ) that originated exactly what you outlined above: riff based rock/hard rock/heavy metal ) & his contributions are massive.
@@jonathanross812 Das trifft überhaupt nicht zu, was du da schreibst. Du kennst die Geschichte der E-Gitarren-Musik überhaupt nicht. Weder Iommi, noch Page oder Blackmore haben das Spiel mit Riffs erfunden. Schon davor waren Riffs üblich, z. B. bei den Cream. Und was Blackmore betrifft: Als ich ihn mit Deep Purple live spielen hörte, war das einerseits die größte Enttäuschung, die ich je erlebte von einem Gitarristen - andererseits war es heilsam, einen weltberühmten Gitarristen so miserabel spielen zu sehen und zu hören. So etwas Miserables habe ich kein zweites Mal, nicht einmal im Ansatz erlebt. Da war jeder Amateur, den ich bisher hörte, viele Male besser, wenn er live spielte.
Das ist doch totaler Blödsinn, was der MusicGura da sagt: Selbstverständlich gibt es weltweit Tausende von Gitarristen, welche ebenso auf Weltklasseniveau spielen können. Die werden nicht aus dem Grund nicht berühmt, weil ihnen gitarristisch, musikalisch oder menschlich etwas fehlen würde - die werden lediglich von Musik-Managern nicht unter Vertrag genommen, weil diese Manager ihren eigenen Musikern keine Konkurrenz machen wollen. Außerdem hat sich der Konzertbetrieb in den letzten Jahrzehnten sehr verwandelt. Früher war es noch üblich, dass jede Woche irgendwo im näheren Umkreis ein paar Bands gespielt haben. Heutzutage hört man nur noch sehr wenige Leute mit einem großen Namen alle paar Wochen irgendwo spielen. Es ist einfach zu teuer geworden, was alles am Spielbetrieb dranhängt - und ohne einen guten Musik-Manager geht gar nichts mehr. Und kaum eine Kneipe sorgt dafür, dass eine Auftrittsmöglichkeit geboten ist. Deshalb gibt es so viele hervorragende Gitarristen, die nur sehr wenige Leute kennen.
Eddie Van Halen said the exact same thing that Richie Blackmore said here. That there are probably a lot of great guitarist that we will never hear of. Some could be brilliant scientists or doctors. They just didn't want a career in music. If people know some guitar players. I bet some of thos guitar players you know are pretty good. Just didn't get that one break to be playing live or making albums.
the internet has ruined the music business in every way even down to teaching.
Just dont let it! Fight the stupidity.
The age of the rock star was a unique set of circumstances dictated by the society of the times the convergence of commerce, technology and cultural trends that I doubt we will ever see again, unfortunately. Those days are gone forever.
I agree but I actually kind of see this as a relief bc it means I actually have a chance to live out some semblance of my musical dreams by making music at home as a hobby with the dawn of tech/internet, and still live a normal life without having to endure the horrors of the music business, be on the road constantly, deal with ruthless cut throat industry people, and all the things that lifestyle entails. I can be a normal person and still have some sort of music career. It’s actually more fulfilling in many ways.
@@BasedGuitarist07 I would rather tour and go on the road and record than face a boring life like most people have.
It is just beginning! Rock and roll had a serious lull from 1959-1963, and then came the Beatles.. it is just a temporary lull right now.
@@BasedGuitarist07 Sure but the enormous amounts of risk, determination, dedication and resilience and sometimes sheer endurance and audacity in the face of potential ruin and mortal danger are part of what made a rock star an iconic figure almost like a folkloric hero akin to a cowboy or gangster. A lot of that may remain in terms of hardship for those who take that path in the face of dwindling opportunities with sadly even less potential rewards in terms of notoriety, fame and fortune. It just isn't worth it anymore these days.
@ To each their own I guess. People are built different. I commend those who are built for that lifestyle. It’s just not me. I DO like to get out and get a taste of the action every now and then, but I like to be able to turn it off whenever I want and retreat back to my hole lol… so the online hobbyist musician life is for me
RB does also occasionally talk nonsense. He gave up on the guitar between 75 & 78? What when he recorded the first 3 Rainbow albums? I don't think so!
I said the same thing !
I think that he was referring to his age in that statement.
I heard a comment many years ago about Austin TX I think, the person said the guys behind the bar are better musicians than the guys in the band.
Playing with other musicians is a lot different to playing along to a record too. However that's not always fun if there's no benign dictator band leader or too many egos in the band. In addition carting gear in and out of p!ss and sawdust clubs via dog 💩 infested alleys takes stamina, as does playing a 3 hour set to keep the crowd happy.
Exactly. I've had enough experiences with ego tripping band leaders. The bad part in most cases is that they're mediocre musicians at best. When everybody gels,it can be great.
@davidmarks5400 Amen to that, spot on👍✌️💜😊
Ritchie can write songs...that's the difference.
No
@@ral8031 He's the Chief song writer of Deep Purple and Rainbow...He, like Iommi and page was the inventor of guitar/riff based rock music....all that followed merely imitated, some good, some bad, but all derivative. He is more than a mere guitarist.
@@jonathanross812 Exactly, and when people get that through their thick skulls they'll realize his brilliance.But probably not.....he gets a bad rap because of his personality ( "what that?!! how DARE he say that?!!" ) etc. but the fact remains he's a part of the 3 guitarists ( Page & Iommi as you correctly observed ) that originated exactly what you outlined above: riff based rock/hard rock/heavy metal ) & his contributions are massive.
@@Stitsel Thanks for your endorsement. Geniuses are entitled to be high maintenance Divas that's very common, they can be unlikeable.
@@jonathanross812 Das trifft überhaupt nicht zu, was du da schreibst. Du kennst die Geschichte der E-Gitarren-Musik überhaupt nicht. Weder Iommi, noch Page oder Blackmore haben das Spiel mit Riffs erfunden. Schon davor waren Riffs üblich, z. B. bei den Cream.
Und was Blackmore betrifft: Als ich ihn mit Deep Purple live spielen hörte, war das einerseits die größte Enttäuschung, die ich je erlebte von einem Gitarristen - andererseits war es heilsam, einen weltberühmten Gitarristen so miserabel spielen zu sehen und zu hören. So etwas Miserables habe ich kein zweites Mal, nicht einmal im Ansatz erlebt. Da war jeder Amateur, den ich bisher hörte, viele Male besser, wenn er live spielte.
Das ist doch totaler Blödsinn, was der MusicGura da sagt: Selbstverständlich gibt es weltweit Tausende von Gitarristen, welche ebenso auf Weltklasseniveau spielen können. Die werden nicht aus dem Grund nicht berühmt, weil ihnen gitarristisch, musikalisch oder menschlich etwas fehlen würde - die werden lediglich von Musik-Managern nicht unter Vertrag genommen, weil diese Manager ihren eigenen Musikern keine Konkurrenz machen wollen. Außerdem hat sich der Konzertbetrieb in den letzten Jahrzehnten sehr verwandelt. Früher war es noch üblich, dass jede Woche irgendwo im näheren Umkreis ein paar Bands gespielt haben. Heutzutage hört man nur noch sehr wenige Leute mit einem großen Namen alle paar Wochen irgendwo spielen. Es ist einfach zu teuer geworden, was alles am Spielbetrieb dranhängt - und ohne einen guten Musik-Manager geht gar nichts mehr. Und kaum eine Kneipe sorgt dafür, dass eine Auftrittsmöglichkeit geboten ist. Deshalb gibt es so viele hervorragende Gitarristen, die nur sehr wenige Leute kennen.