I remember as a kid being fascinated with the car in Patrick McGoohan’s “prisoner” television series and some years later, still a child, I visited Port Merrion, the village in Wales where the TV series was based and bought a postcard of a Caterham Super 7 From the shop there. The Seven on this postcard was done out like McGoohan’s Lotus from the TV and this photo on this postcard just totally fascinated and absorbed me! I gazed at it endlessly for some reason! On the back of the postcard was printed “a Caterham 7 purporting to be ‘KAR 120C’” and I was determined in that pre-Internet era to find out what the hell is a “Caterham Seven“! Somehow a teacher in my school, probably recognising my obsession(!?), tells me that it was a Lotus, incorrectly as it turned out, in the photograph on my postcard but did manage to locate a small advertisement for a kit car in an auto magazine which Included an address So I sent them a photocopy of the postcard (I wouldn’t risk the original!) And a letter asking them what was the car they were selling what is a lotus are they Lotus who is Mr Carterham That kind of thing! Graham Nearn then replied personally in the letter and included a wealth of material, brochures and magazine articles explaining the whole story and I was forever smitten!
… Actually now I think on I remember the motor journalist of one of the articles in that parcel sent from “Caterham car sales and Coachworks“ bemusedly complained that when they do reviews of a car they ask the manufacturers a set of questions to get some basic specifications right & so they sent one to Caterham expecting them to fill this detailed spec questionnaire in but they noted under the section“aerodynamic drag coefficient “ Caterham had replied “CONSIDERABLE!” 🤣
as a young mechanic in the mid sixties all i ever wanted was a lotus seven ,after driving every type of lotus up to 1975 , i really didnt want one so i bought a volvo far more practical , many more came and went including, runnning a cortina in european historics , 23, s in uk historics untill around 2019 wnen the guy who i worked for bought a original 7 supersport, this a ex racer , the worse hamdling car, i had ever driven the front bump steer was awefull , so i ended up modifing the front suspension to cure its evil ways , the rear too . , all in all never impressed by lotus other than the sunbeam lotus , now that was a fun car , all the others to iffy handing on the limit
if you over step the adhesion limit on a elan you were history, if you suddenly found yourself going in a corner way to fast , you had to unstick the rear tyres once you did that it was controllable oversteer,
always liked the colin chapman designs up to the elan , from there the lego era started with horrible engines and worse handling ....... how on earth did he go on with all that fantasy cars products is a mystery to me
What I found interesting was how Chapman was sort of bashing American Business and then the next scene that talks about his favorite hobby and the advantages of flying he jumps into a American built and owned company, Cessna! So why not a British aircraft company Mr Chapman?
I can not say for sure but I feel that the prisoner car was a Lotus because another tv series of the time The Avengers had actor Diana Rigg driving an Elan if my memory is correct .This at the time would have a wonderful way for CC to market his range of cars
i think the prisoner was before the avengers and patrick mcgoohan drove a superseven , chris rea also had a super seven for many years which i believe he raced
One fact check: The commentary states "Jim Clark only drove for Lotus in F1" [TRUE] "and he won 19 races" [FALSE]. The 1968 South African GP was his 25th GP and last win surpassing JMF record of 24, before that fateful day in April.
So, nicely done, but with a huge hole in the middle. What about the Europa? Mentioned as a platform from which Giugiario designed the Esprite and then .... nothing. Lotus built and sold more bloody Europas than they did Elans!
yes but the europa was a bloody awefull car, , got stuck in a traffic jam in the smoke on a bloody hot thought i was going to die from heat stroke , now if it had a c
Chapman killed a lot of drivers with bad engineering. Jochen Rindt was a typical example. He was also a lifetime grifter and ended up in the middle of the DeLorean scandal. Many still believe he faked his death.
I just saw the tail end of a lengthly film on the 1962 Goodwood Glover Trophy non-championship race Won by Graham Hill in the BRM P57 V-8 after the Lotus 24's and 25's failed and Moss crashed out. Hill drinking from the trophy! This was on Sky Sports F-1 About an hour ago. I cannot find this film,, anywhere Only short bits about Moss's crash! I became a fan of BRM and G. Hill after Zoondvort. 1962 Thru 1965... The H-16 ended THAT BRM thing, for me! THEY should have done the V-12 from the get go! WITH 4 valves from Weslake IMHO J.C. Age 74 last month... Ferrari Enduro fan since 1964 Daytona 2000km. and Sebring 12... That V-12 sound! 330P3/4 For NART in particular Thru 1972.... NOT a fan of IMSA 1973 < Not a fan of Ferrari F-1 Enzo was his own worst enemy! Never a Tifiosi!! FORZA FERRARI After 58 Years!!!
He was very full of himself, a typical car salesman type who later ran Club Lotus which briefly strengthened his position & authority over all things historical regarding Lotus cars.
Arnold was Lotus Sales Director from 1963-1981; fully involved with the company's commercial strategy, and one of Chapman's close friends. (Watch "The Secret Life of Colin Chapman" 50-minute documentary--available on YT--for a more focused, coherent portrait of CC and his era in motorsport, IMO.) That said, I enjoyed this doc--particularly description of engineering innovations, per the title.
Colin Chapman wasn't responsible for Mike Spence misjudging a turn at Indy in a team mate's car, nor was he responsible for Peterson's car being unable to survive the impact damage it did when all cars at that time were made of honeycomb aluminium structure, & he certainly wasn't responsible for Jim Clark picking up debris that caused a slow puncture & to spin off into the trees...🙄
People die every day in the most mundane of circumstances and also in wars etc. Road cars were so safe in the 50’s and race cars even more so. Going fast is dangerous. If that’s too scary then maybe stay home? Although……they say home isn’t so safe anyway. Trolling the trolls 😂 every time I see a seven type car on the road I can’t help admire the insanity of it. Colin Chapman. Lightness. Genius. One day they will understand x
Mario Andretti tested Spence's turbine car. The handling went off and he nearly hit the wall. In the pits the car was found to have a cracked steel suspension bracket. The next day the car was repaired with a new bracket that had been hastily machined in aluminium.
but it would have been even faster before falling apart, and the second one might survive, then the third on be even faster, and so on. "any fool can build a bridge that won`t fall down, it takes a great engineer to build a bridge that Just won`t fall down." Colin Chapman
@@theant9821Rather more than piston engines jets produce extreme heat, which becomes a factor with firewalls from brown paper. Otherwise I would agree (:💨
He would weld a roll over bar to the GAS TANK! Thank God Alf Francis had the Rob Walker Lotus 18 built with Reynolds 531 nickel moly tubing, on/with Lotus's jigs! Not the cheap brittle carbon steel Chappers preferred... Saved Stirl's LIFE! Read the Francis bio The Costin/Duckworth book! History J.C.
Chapman was a genius.
I remember as a kid being fascinated with the car in Patrick McGoohan’s “prisoner” television series and some years later, still a child, I visited Port Merrion, the village in Wales where the TV series was based and bought a postcard of a Caterham Super 7 From the shop there. The Seven on this postcard was done out like McGoohan’s Lotus from the TV and this photo on this postcard just totally fascinated and absorbed me!
I gazed at it endlessly for some reason!
On the back of the postcard was printed “a Caterham 7 purporting to be ‘KAR 120C’” and I was determined in that pre-Internet era to find out what the hell is a “Caterham Seven“!
Somehow a teacher in my school, probably recognising my obsession(!?), tells me that it was a Lotus, incorrectly as it turned out, in the photograph on my postcard but did manage to locate a small advertisement for a kit car in an auto magazine which Included an address So I sent them a photocopy of the postcard (I wouldn’t risk the original!) And a letter asking them what was the car they were selling what is a lotus are they Lotus who is Mr Carterham That kind of thing!
Graham Nearn then replied personally in the letter and included a wealth of material, brochures and magazine articles explaining the whole story and I was forever smitten!
… Actually now I think on I remember the motor journalist of one of the articles in that parcel sent from “Caterham car sales and Coachworks“ bemusedly complained that when they do reviews of a car they ask the manufacturers a set of questions to get some basic specifications right & so they sent one to Caterham expecting them to fill this detailed spec questionnaire in but they noted under the section“aerodynamic drag coefficient “ Caterham had replied “CONSIDERABLE!” 🤣
I remember Patrick McGoohan as "Danger Man" with his little Morris Mini Cooper S , as well.
Both the Seven and the Elan make my top ten list of all time favorite cars!
as a young mechanic in the mid sixties all i ever wanted was a lotus seven ,after driving every type of lotus up to 1975 , i really didnt want one so i bought a volvo far more practical , many more came and went including, runnning a cortina in european historics , 23, s in uk historics untill around 2019 wnen the guy who i worked for bought a original 7 supersport, this a ex racer , the worse hamdling car, i had ever driven the front bump steer was awefull , so i ended up modifing the front suspension to cure its evil ways , the rear too . , all in all never impressed by lotus other than the sunbeam lotus , now that was a fun car , all the others to iffy handing on the limit
Great Video
Wow, what a great Doc...
C.C. Was so forthright.
"The late, great, Colin Chapman." That is how Nigel Mansell says his name, he had great respect for him.
Add Lightness only problem how mutch. There were just too many drivers lost driving Lotus.
Good job
I liked how he was talking to Bruce Mclaren. You would not see that now days.
Elite or TR4 come on - just look at it. In 1950s & 1960s it was sooo ahead of its time as was the Elan 🤩🤩Chapman just was a genius, old school.
if you over step the adhesion limit on a elan you were history, if you suddenly found yourself going in a corner way to fast , you had to unstick the rear tyres once you did that it was controllable oversteer,
always liked the colin chapman designs up to the elan , from there the lego era started with horrible engines and worse handling ....... how on earth did he go on with all that fantasy cars products is a mystery to me
What I found interesting was how Chapman was sort of bashing American Business and then the next scene that talks about his favorite hobby and the advantages of flying he jumps into a American built and owned company, Cessna! So why not a British aircraft company Mr Chapman?
There were plenty to choose from... But he chose Er.. A Piper. That ain't no Cessna mate.
I can not say for sure but I feel that the prisoner car was a Lotus because another tv series of the time The Avengers had actor Diana Rigg driving an Elan if my memory is correct .This at the time would have a wonderful way for CC to market his range of cars
An S2 Lotus Seven registration plate "KAR 120C"
i think the prisoner was before the avengers and patrick mcgoohan drove a superseven , chris rea also had a super seven for many years which i believe he raced
One fact check: The commentary states "Jim Clark only drove for Lotus in F1" [TRUE] "and he won 19 races" [FALSE]. The 1968 South African GP was his 25th GP and last win surpassing JMF record of 24, before that fateful day in April.
In the Avengers series Diana Rigg also drove a Europa.
and a elan ,they werent hers she owned a vw camper then
59:58 No servants! What peasants.
Those were the days, when you rode on the tunnel next to dad ...🌷:)
Do you know who owns the copyright of this documentary?
So, nicely done, but with a huge hole in the middle. What about the Europa? Mentioned as a platform from which Giugiario designed the Esprite and then .... nothing. Lotus built and sold more bloody Europas than they did Elans!
The racing Lotus 47 Ford was the proper Europa!
Ahh the Europa great car but never quite had the good looks of the Elans of the day ☺☺
yes but the europa was a bloody awefull car, , got stuck in a traffic jam in the smoke on a bloody hot thought i was going to die from heat stroke , now if it had a c
Jimmy Clark won 25 Grand Prix, not 19.
Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious LOTUS. But great cars when they're working properly.
Chapman killed a lot of drivers with bad engineering. Jochen Rindt was a typical example. He was also a lifetime grifter and ended up in the middle of the DeLorean scandal. Many still believe he faked his death.
@@truantray woah
There's always some bonehead who has to trot out that one.
I just saw the tail end of a lengthly film on the 1962 Goodwood Glover Trophy non-championship race
Won by Graham Hill in the BRM P57 V-8 after the Lotus 24's and 25's failed and Moss crashed out.
Hill drinking from the trophy!
This was on Sky Sports F-1 About an hour ago.
I cannot find this film,, anywhere
Only short bits about Moss's crash!
I became a fan of BRM and G. Hill after Zoondvort. 1962
Thru 1965...
The H-16 ended THAT BRM thing, for me!
THEY should have done the V-12 from the get go!
WITH 4 valves from Weslake
IMHO
J.C.
Age 74 last month...
Ferrari Enduro fan since 1964 Daytona 2000km. and Sebring 12...
That V-12 sound!
330P3/4
For NART in particular
Thru 1972....
NOT a fan of IMSA 1973 <
Not a fan of Ferrari F-1
Enzo was his own worst enemy!
Never a Tifiosi!!
FORZA FERRARI
After 58 Years!!!
He killed many of drivers with his lightweight cars, look up the names of drivers that race a Loutus before yo come at me with bs.
Arnold constantly says 'we' as if he and Chapman were partners. He's a historian for crying out loud, and had nothing to do with building Lotus cars.
He was very full of himself, a typical car salesman type who later ran Club Lotus which briefly strengthened his position & authority over all things historical regarding Lotus cars.
Arnold was Lotus Sales Director from 1963-1981; fully involved with the company's commercial strategy, and one of Chapman's close friends. (Watch "The Secret Life of Colin Chapman" 50-minute documentary--available on YT--for a more focused, coherent portrait of CC and his era in motorsport, IMO.) That said, I enjoyed this doc--particularly description of engineering innovations, per the title.
A flawed genius...
hazels pet name - lotus blossom hence lotus cars.
Perhaps Mike Spence, Jochen Rindt, Ronnie Peterson, and Jimmy Clark wish that Chapman hadn’t added so much lightness by shaving the margins of safety
Colin Chapman wasn't responsible for Mike Spence misjudging a turn at Indy in a team mate's car, nor was he responsible for Peterson's car being unable to survive the impact damage it did when all cars at that time were made of honeycomb aluminium structure, & he certainly wasn't responsible for Jim Clark picking up debris that caused a slow puncture & to spin off into the trees...🙄
Grossly misleading statements to make. Chapman , his design team, fabricators and mechanics were in no way responsible for any of those deaths.
People die every day in the most mundane of circumstances and also in wars etc. Road cars were so safe in the 50’s and race cars even more so. Going fast is dangerous. If that’s too scary then maybe stay home? Although……they say home isn’t so safe anyway. Trolling the trolls 😂 every time I see a seven type car on the road I can’t help admire the insanity of it. Colin Chapman. Lightness. Genius. One day they will understand x
Mario Andretti tested Spence's turbine car. The handling went off and he nearly hit the wall. In the pits the car was found to have a cracked steel suspension bracket.
The next day the car was repaired with a new bracket that had been hastily machined in aluminium.
This guy was another bollox in motor racing,had he lived a bit longer would have rightly ended up in jail.
If Chapman would have designed the Concord, the wings would have fallen off....🤣
but it would have been even faster before falling apart, and the second one might survive, then the third on be even faster, and so on.
"any fool can build a bridge that won`t fall down, it takes a great engineer to build a bridge that Just won`t fall down." Colin Chapman
Perhaps. But only after it had landed. Before then it would have broken all records.
@@theant9821Rather more than piston engines jets produce extreme heat, which becomes a factor with firewalls from brown paper. Otherwise I would agree (:💨
He would weld a roll over bar to the GAS TANK!
Thank God Alf Francis had the Rob Walker Lotus 18 built with
Reynolds 531 nickel moly tubing, on/with Lotus's jigs!
Not the cheap brittle carbon steel Chappers preferred...
Saved Stirl's LIFE!
Read the Francis bio
The Costin/Duckworth book!
History
J.C.
Put helium in the tires ,like Porsche put nitrogen in a sealed tubular chassis to save weight . Unt wakko noggin headin 🤔