Very interesting! I certainly learned quite a lot! The flexibility of the proa! (Not sure of the spelling!) was very interesting and not something I was aware of. Thanks for sharing and stay safe! 😎🏖🌴☀️🇦🇺
I love what is being done here. I used to live in those islands when I worked for the US army in education. I grew to love the locals more than my "own" people. They still are like fish! No colonization has ever overcome their relationship with the sea. But the traditional craft are quite heavy. The wood is hard to find, and when you do find some, you kinda want to leave it because it is so scarce. Koa, that lovely and perfect wood, is almost gone! I much approve. Cheers.
We Sonsorolese need to start one in Palau to educate the young generations on how to build our traditional canoes. Especially the ones for sailing and travel.
combining alaskan skin on frame with any local fiber fabric can make them lighter and affordable without cutting trees, using palm branches for plywood forexample
Boat building is the best way for many to overcome so many personal challenges. We have been building many Optis and saw the changes in peoples lives - we actually using boatbuilding and sailing to build LifeSkills. Too bad that too many schools stopped their work shops, a big loss for children. Well done guys. For me it's most rewarding
So interesting! I also recently sailed a traditional Polynesian sailing canoe, it's called Ontong Java (and it's a bit bigger than this one haha) & I just published the first video of the series on my channel!
@@Bloomio95 The flat outer (leeward) side helps to prevent leeway. Think of trying to push a flat plank of wood sideways through the water-it would be very difficult. The inner (windward) side has the opposite effect. Because this side is curved (looking from above), the distance the water has to travel from bow to stern is longer than on the flat side. The water therefore has to travel slightly further between these two points (Bernoulli’s Principle), thus creating a reduction in pressure. In sailing terms this is called lift and is what lifts the Americas Cup boats out of the water. The hydrofoils on the AC boats and other sailing hydrofoils are however much longer-rather like a plane wing, so the lift is much greater. On the proa the hull would have to be much deeper to generate really significant lift. Or they could install a dagger board with an asymmetrical cross section (flat side to leeward). But it seems that the flat side of the proa hull is sufficient. The best description of catamaran hulls is given in a recent Joyrider video on UA-cam.
Excellent and very interesting. I had previously thought that a single outrigger float would be on the leeward side to prevent capsizing and reduce leeway - clearly not so. Would not a 2 canoe hulls (Wharram style) provide much more space for fishing and freight but I suppose cost much more?
Thanks for the question. The project was to show two styles of freight capable vessels as a working concept. Not sure about the costs. Definitely more material in the wharram style, but it might be easier to build as they are identical hulls?
An ama on the leeward side would be forced underneath the water, which would quickly destroy the lashings, back in the day when these were made out of coconut husk ropes or other vegetable fibres. On the contrary, an ama is made for "flying", which makes the canoe really faster. While the small kõrkõr is still used as a racing boat (and an awesome oiece of engineering), the bigger tipñõl was/is used to chase after schools of tuna, which the fishers spot by following the seabirds. They have to be quick, and quick they are! :)
Harryproa? Horrible pick Russel brown has a much much better modern proa design that unlike harryproa has proven itself with a multitude of sea miles and various weather conditions along with ncredible speeds that rival even the larger racing tris and cats.
you could avoid nanoplastic polymer paint and instead use sand with agar agar or starch and car's ceramic nanocoating for waterproofing. also you can avoid expoxy and glass fiber with flax, jute, hemp, etc fibers and some natural glue as well, or use instead flexible skin-on-frame sof with those fabrics
Very interesting! I certainly learned quite a lot! The flexibility of the proa! (Not sure of the spelling!) was very interesting and not something I was aware of. Thanks for sharing and stay safe! 😎🏖🌴☀️🇦🇺
JACK JACKSON thanks for watching . Glad you enjoyed it . We also learned a lot whilst making the video . Fascinating craft 😊
I love what is being done here. I used to live in those islands when I worked for the US army in education. I grew to love the locals more than my "own" people. They still are like fish! No colonization has ever overcome their relationship with the sea. But the traditional craft are quite heavy. The wood is hard to find, and when you do find some, you kinda want to leave it because it is so scarce. Koa, that lovely and perfect wood, is almost gone!
I much approve. Cheers.
We Sonsorolese need to start one in Palau to educate the young generations on how to build our traditional canoes. Especially the ones for sailing and travel.
We agree . Traditional methods need saving . 😊
combining alaskan skin on frame with any local fiber fabric can make them lighter and affordable without cutting trees, using palm branches for plywood forexample
Very Interesting and well presented, loved the go pro on the yacht xxx 🐠🐠⛵️⛵️
Dennis Hegarty think you . Rob was the editing guru on this one and he did a fab job 😊👍🏻
Boat building is the best way for many to overcome so many personal challenges. We have been building many Optis and saw the changes in peoples lives - we actually using boatbuilding and sailing to build LifeSkills. Too bad that too many schools stopped their work shops, a big loss for children. Well done guys. For me it's most rewarding
Super video. Thank you.
Becky de Sancha thanks for watching 😊. Glad you enjoyed it
Fabulous video.
Island Pride thank you . We had a great time making it 😊
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
Paul Freshour thanks for watching 😊
Sailing Double Trouble it’s nice to get some island life while landlocked here in Tennessee.
Really enjoyed this. Informative and fascinating.x
Carol Hegarty glad you enjoyed it . A little different from the norm , but we loved seeing the building process 😊❤️
@@SailingDoubleTrouble And we enjoyed watching it.
That was awesome! :)
Thank you
thx 4 this informative and educational vid...stay safe n say hi to "Dave" from a fan,
LOL...
Thanks for watching and Dave says ‘hi’ 😉⛵️
Loved it . 😊
Glad you liked it!!
great insight into tradition
gary shuttleworth isn’t it ? We learned such a lot 😊
So interesting! I also recently sailed a traditional Polynesian sailing canoe, it's called Ontong Java (and it's a bit bigger than this one haha) & I just published the first video of the series on my channel!
Sounds great . Will check it out 👍🏻
Otong Java dosent sound Polynesian
nice ;-)
Alistair Duff thank you 😊
Really, really interesting. We thoroughly enjoyed watching it. How on earth did that guy manage in bare feet?!!!!! xxx
Miriam Richardson glad you enjoyed it . You go barefoot so often that your feet harden up ...😊👍🏻xx
Amazing video! Thanks so much. Why is the main hull of the traditional proa rounder on the windward side and flatter on the other?
I think the idea is to generate some lift to windward, rather like an aircraft wing. Some of the Hobie catamarans have also adopted this feature.
@@malin5468 Interesting. So does it counter the force of the wind?
@@Bloomio95 The flat outer (leeward) side helps to prevent leeway. Think of trying to push a flat plank of wood sideways through the water-it would be very difficult. The inner (windward) side has the opposite effect. Because this side is curved (looking from above), the distance the water has to travel from bow to stern is longer than on the flat side. The water therefore has to travel slightly further between these two points (Bernoulli’s Principle), thus creating a reduction in pressure. In sailing terms this is called lift and is what lifts the Americas Cup boats out of the water. The hydrofoils on the AC boats and other sailing hydrofoils are however much longer-rather like a plane wing, so the lift is much greater. On the proa the hull would have to be much deeper to generate really significant lift. Or they could install a dagger board with an asymmetrical cross section (flat side to leeward). But it seems that the flat side of the proa hull is sufficient. The best description of catamaran hulls is given in a recent Joyrider video on UA-cam.
Understood, thanks very much!@@malin5468
Excellent and very interesting. I had previously thought that a single outrigger float would be on the leeward side to prevent capsizing and reduce leeway - clearly not so. Would not a 2 canoe hulls (Wharram style) provide much more space for fishing and freight but I suppose cost much more?
Thanks for the question. The project was to show two styles of freight capable vessels as a working concept. Not sure about the costs. Definitely more material in the wharram style, but it might be easier to build as they are identical hulls?
An ama on the leeward side would be forced underneath the water, which would quickly destroy the lashings, back in the day when these were made out of coconut husk ropes or other vegetable fibres.
On the contrary, an ama is made for "flying", which makes the canoe really faster. While the small kõrkõr is still used as a racing boat (and an awesome oiece of engineering), the bigger tipñõl was/is used to chase after schools of tuna, which the fishers spot by following the seabirds. They have to be quick, and quick they are! :)
Curious to know which design the Marshallese prefer?
Doug Marder they typically use the standard outrigger up in the outer atolls
What's the brown goop they were spreading on the base of the boat at about 3 min
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3:34 you are teaching them the Morden way
Islanders doesn't needs that garbage 😂😅 canoe of the majol are the real one
Traditional canoe are better than that garbage 😂😂😅😅
Why are these guys building boats out of plywood? THats idiotic. Use real wood seriously.
Harryproa? Horrible pick
Russel brown has a much much better modern proa design that unlike harryproa has proven itself with a multitude of sea miles and various weather conditions along with ncredible speeds that rival even the larger racing tris and cats.
Thanks for the info. Will have to read up about that 👍🏻
you could avoid nanoplastic polymer paint and instead use sand with agar agar or starch and car's ceramic nanocoating for waterproofing. also you can avoid expoxy and glass fiber with flax, jute, hemp, etc fibers and some natural glue as well, or use instead flexible skin-on-frame sof with those fabrics