Oil Burner Lighting demo and Setup for heater and furnace applications
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2015
- This Vid shows simple packaging of the spray burner to make it suitable for various applications as a practical heating unit.
The burner could be used as a replacement Water or home heating unit which would utilise free fuel in the form of waste oil.
The burner will run on waste engine, vegetable, transmission or other oils. It can also run on Kerosene, Diesel, and new or used solvents such as Turps.
With just a elbow and a nipple fitting, the Spray burner unit can be fitted to a tube or other support and function as either a new or replacement burner in any number of heating applications.
The burner as shown in previous Vids is quick and easy to light and also very controllable in flame and heat output. The burner was made with off the shelf common plumbing fittings and uses no special nozzles or parts.
Please refer to my other construction vid on my channel before asking about how this burner is built or what parts it uses as these and it's construction have already been specifically covered.
Wonderful video. Such a simple setup and tremendous heat produced. Thank you for taking the time in this crazy world we all live in to do the work for this electronic show!
One of the best orators I've ever heard! Nice
Great safety tips and another great burner waiting for the next one
Hi, Oil. I added this one to favorites. Thanks. You are awesome. :)
Love your videos, Keep up the good work!
Going to try this as it seems like an easier way to run my furnace!
Gana blow up your house 😂
An absolutely great video man! Love it
I am glad I came across your videos. It's true, one might get the impression that you need a PHD and access to a machine shop in order to build an oil burner based on other videos. Thank you
Thanks mate.
Yes, there is an ingrained culture these days that unless something is expensive, overly complicated, uses a lot of power and has many failure points, it can't possible work.
I Demonstrate my disagreeance! :0)
@@glumpy10 that's the trouble, you'd be amazed at how much electronic bullshit is inside a modern oil burner. The old rotary cup burners have insane reliability and never break down. Same with the big industrial compressed air burners. Just replace the motor or nozzle every year and it runs perfectly without fail. Since the late 1990s oil-burning appliances have had to become more complicated and unreliable so that the manufacturers can sell expensive replacement parts that you need a laptop and expensive software to "repair" when it's solely a software problem and not a mechanical problem with the burner or machine at all.
I love your vids. My friend owns an oil change shop so I can get all the free waste oil I want
Thank you for USA. Keep the good work.every day is good to learn something thank you , blessings
love you mr oil burner your vids are great
You're very kind. Thank you.
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This guys ace... Going build something like this next
another idea: use propane instead of compressed air in that system. it together with a blower could generate enough heat to melt cast iron I guess...?
just keep making new videos. your channel is the reason I visit UA-cam :)
another great burner
always cool to watch.
Ty very fun, entertaining,with great inspiration,instructions at times, ty again keep up the great 👍 videos.
Impressive video!
they took our laughter, but they never get u:)) love ya:)
Hey. I just came on a crazy idea. Get yourself an old pressure washer and feed oil in it. It would make a freaking awesome and superpowerful burner ;)
Waiting for your next video ;)
+margus014 Yeah, I thought of that a while ago. I think you are right, it should be awesome. The washer would spray the oil unreal and at 6-7L a min as I have seen a lot of those washers rated, the output should be absoluteness huge!
Thanks for the reminder, I'll keep a serious eye out for an old washer.
I like your copper bracelet!
i like this fella .
Very good Enovetion
Nice Venturi, how simple, thought the tube would go purple & burn off the leaked dribble also.
+Roberto .Cavanagh The nozzle comes down past half way in the tube. When I get round to shortening it I'm sure it will burn all the oil. It gave me the idea to make a Hybrid spray/ drip burner which I'll do in a future vid. This will allow easy lighting and high power output without having to run a compressor ragged all the time it's running.
I built this burner, and it sprays beautifully. But i am using old motor oil, and it doesnt want to light for me. Is there a significant difference in the comustion of used engine oil vs veg oil? Or am I doing something wrong?
Dude you are a Bad Ass. Eye on my way to home depo. In 20 mins
Love it
I love your sarcasm on this one...lol..
Wow works Great
hoping we could do a video on safety some day i'll have ya on the ground with laughter!
have you tried used motor oil in your burners or are you only using old vegi oil?
i have tought about a design like this and wanted to know if you ever tryed it. I dont want to run my compressor all the time here in my home garage when i want heat, but i do want to use a spray burner like this. So what i tought of is use a pressure pump, let that put the oil trough a small nozzle(was thinking something like a mig welder tip) and have a fan push the air trough the tube. Have you ever tryed that? And did it work? I would try it myself, but havent got the time and space for it at the moment. And i offcourse dont want to try this out inside.
As for the oil pump, i have some destoyed car engine, those oil pump are all chain driven, so should be easy to turn that with something. For testing i just wanted to put the shaft of the pump or a shaft with a sprocket on a drill and turn it like that. Then put the suction part of the pump in the oil and the pressure part to the nozzle. And most oil pumps are internally regulated to something like 6 bar, so those copper pipes should hold that without a problem.
What are your recommendations for high kal burner for waste tire pyrolysis? How mm wide of the nozzle and suitable air pressure? Should I use air blower or air compressor?
YES! LESS is MORE! Really good!!! Simple is the best, there is a guy trying to assemble a big s...thermometer, barometer, speedometer gauge, blablabla...but it doesn't work
I have seen some amazingly over complicated systems myself that never have any advantage over something far more straightforward. Some people just have an ingrained mentality that unless something is complicated, difficult to use and expensive, it can't possibly work. I have seen people maintain that idea even when shown much simpler setups that are every bit as good or better.
Hi I was just wondering does it matter which way the oil goes through into the thing if it's a safe trip or do you have another way of getting oil into the pipe
It's the great invantion. could you plz tell me . how many litter oil need per hour.???
Just a quick question, is the nylon tube pushed in so far and cut at an angle for a reason, or did it just happen that way?
hola soy de venezuela.
estoy creando el cañon de fuego para usarlo en una caldera pero necesito saber si por la linea del aceite tambien lleva presion porque cuando le ejerso presion por la linea del aire comprimido se devuelve por la linea del aceite
I have a silly question. Is flare copper fittings useable with this setup? Or is the heat a problem.
what if you pointed the burner upwards so the flame is coming out the top. that should increase the air flow and burning temp in theory i think
Thank you it's rather simple and efficient if you wouldn't mind if I made a a copy to see how she works that would be much appreciated
That's the idea of putting things here, for me anyway. So I can show others what I came up with and they can build and hopefully improve upon it for themselves. There are a lot of applications for these things and I liken them to stationary engines that have all sorts of uses. I'm amazed at what people have done with them. Things I wouldn't have thought of and some things I didn't even know existed.
Please let me know when you have a vid up of your version.
I want to make one of these to remove stumps from my paddocks, great job Oil
Great vid . I never saw used oil light so fast do you have a mix of petrol with it ? Thanks for the video.
Regards Don
I NEVER mix petrol and oil. That is making a potential bomb. Even if you only use a little petrol the vapors will be in the tank and potentially go boom as well as if it were 100% Petrol. Come to think of it, would have more potential to go bang. People think I take a lot of risks and are blase about safety but even I have a line I won't cross and that's anything to do with petrol in these or any other DIY type burner. Just trouble waiting to cause catastrophe.
The pipe was long and not too heavy so warmed up fast and helped the Oil change from a liquid to a vapor which is the key element to these burner designs. The spray helps but it's the heat that does the real magic.
Having oil that has been dried free of water would help potentialy a lot and this may well have been dried oil I processed for my Vehicle as I would have needed reasonably clean oil for this type of burner.
How much air pressure ? Is it running air compressor nonstop? Reminds me of siphon solvent sprayer for cleaning parts..
If you added a throttle valve for the air, would you be able to throttle both down to where you get a smaller quiet flame, for like a fire pit to relax around?
I don't see why not. If you balance the fuel and air you can get the output right down but for a fire pit I'd just use a blown air design like all my others rather than run a compressor.
Like the video's but on a burner of this design could it get hot enough to melt brass,Copper or such metals in a foundry.
Well and truly. See my other vids where I have melted these things.
I must be doing something wrong.lol i managed to spray oil all over the shop twice. I did the tee but keep having air come back into the oil bucket causing the oil to pop. I will keep trying until i get it or have the entire shop covered in oil...
What sort of projects would this kind of burner be best for, vs. the type built from a fire extinguisher bottle? Maybe this type would have lower output pressure, or is that determined by the blower? Is this type just longer than the swirling style of burner?
+MrTechnophile The pressure of the burners is largely determined by the output size of the nozzle. Larger nozzle, lower pressure for a given output. I tend to think the spray burner would be better for shorter run or multiple light up applications. It is also much lower output than the bottle type burners although probably of a more practical level as well. You do need a compressor which is more noise, power consumption and expense than a blower.
The setup of the burners is fairly adaptable for all. You could shorten the length of this spray burner easily. As it is the nozzle is half way down the tube anyway so that could be very easily shortened. Using heavier gauge pipe with a perforated stainless insert would provide a source for the ignition and the whole burner could probably be shortened to 6" without much effort and still run perfectly particularly when located in a metal furnace or a HE for a home heating application.
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haven't watched all your vids (just subbed today) but can you include some temperature readings via the use of a temperature gun? thank you.
+linuxxxunil Temp gun readings are really meaningless. It's not the temp that is important but the amount of heating power or overall BTU/ KW produced. I could make an oil burner that produces 1200o c ( and more!) that uses 500Ml of oil an hour. It may be hot but it does not have the energy to melt a 5Kg block of ally. It's a bit like a motorscooter will do 60 Mph but it won't do 5MPH with a 2 ton boat on a trailer attached. It's not temp that's important because its always relatively the same, it's the amount of power produced which helps to overcome the heat loss that is important and gives a practical heat rise to produce practical work.
The best indicator of power on these things is fuel consumption. They will do up to 1500o C in ideal conditions but even clean combustion is going to give 1200oC+ every single time. The temp of the output doesn't vary much no matter what the fuel consumption but there is a lot more energy in something burning 25L hr than something burning 2. :0)
Can you tell me where to buy the parts the little tubes what fittings you are using?
How would one capture the moste of that temperature?
Guday OB. Yet another fun vid. So are you measuring how much time the compressor is running for (X) amount of oil burned?
I still like your monster burners over all others!! lol..
+Steve 1961P. The compressor runs ALL the time the burner does apart from a brief window when the compressor is full when I start the burner. After that it never stops. My compressor is an 8CFM. If I reduce the pressure of the air down it will Cycle but then of course you get less heat. I could also flatten the Nozzle a bit which would allow a higher pressure and with enough restriction and subsequent output reduction, also give the compressor some rest time.
I prefer the monster burners myself and plan an attempt at breaking my 600Kw output record soon.
if you could find an old walk behind leaf blower laying around somewhere... they generally put out anywhere between 1200-2200cfm @150+mph air speed.
Very cool again. so here it's the one where you put the oil and the air under pressure. Would addin a blower help in any way?
I'm eager to watch you enclose it in an actual heater. The question I have in this reagard is do you put the hot end closer to the 'cold' water inlet or the other way round? or does it matter at all?
+Yves Baggi Adding a Blower is the next Vid! :0) I don't think it matters with the water heating. On the tank I converted in another vid the outlet is at the top due to heat rising even though the fire is at at the bottom.
I wonder if you were to build a jet engine from scratch if you could use something such as this to inject the fuel into the combustion chamber of the engine, since the air is already flowing at high velocity through the engine and the air is hot from being compressed, would this work?
You would need to have the oil pressurisied above the compressor pressure. Combustors work Different in jets as they use the air pressure to hold teh flame in suspension in the combustor and try and keep it from the walls of the burn chamber. All you need to do on a jet is inject the fuel direct and the air enters tangentially to mix and suspend the flame.
id like to see a oil burning pulse jet engine ..have you done one
I'm assuming it _is_ necessary to run the oil feed tube mostly through the Tee in order for the compressed air to siphon it, yes? that's why you used compression fittings rather than threaded?
well, not siphon, but rather atomize, sorry.
Good job man , I have some questions that may seem silly but this is all new to me: what is the role of the tank, how does it intervene in the process?
The tank has the oil in it which is pressurised by the compressed air which also feeds the burner itself.
How big pressure need for this burner? Thanks!
Let's see the rear. How are the two popes receiving air and oil?
maybe if not seen it yet. But it seems like you are 1 of the go to guys when it comes to waste oil heaters. I have build a pretty good unit myself, it heats my shop of around 720m³ without much of a problem at this point with only about 2 liters an hour of oil consumption. But now im trying to figure out a way of lighting it with the help of electronics. I was thinking something like a glow plug or something. Have you ever experimented with something like that? And if so did you get any succeses with it?
I haven't tried but the way I would approach it myself would be to start on gas for preheat and have a timer that then switched to oil. You could do this easily with an arduino and have sequences for the blower to start, the spark igniter to run, the gas to come on, a flame sensor, a temp sensor to know when the burner was hot enough and trigger the oil, a shut off for the oil and a secondary ramp up for increased oil and air flow just by triggering a couple more relays.
An arduino running an 8 relay board and using a few sensors would be practical, cheap and easy.
And could even be remotely controlled or you could set it to come on say an hour before you wanted to be in your shop so it was warm when you got there.
External sensors could trigger shutdowns and you can even wire in gas detectors to make sure nothing goes wrong.
i have tought about running gas to get it to light on it self. But i dont really like the idea to play around with gas because that is a lot easier to get wrong. And if it go's wrong its going to be really bad. The waste oil dosn't really scare me. Yes you can burn your shop down, but its not likely to give a big bang like gas would if you get it wrong. But since you havent done it yet i might have to do some pioneering in this world. I hope i find some way it works, and if i do i wil probably come back to your chanel to show you too.
Gas Really isn't a big deal. I think a lot of people are scared of it because of Misapprehensions. In this case it's very compatible with oil for ignition purposes and could very easily be integrated to what you want. Make no mistake, Oil that is atomised to the point of being ignited by spark or preheated so it can be ignited through a spark or flashes by itself is every bit as capable of going bang as Gas is.
They would both be flammable mixtures and equally as able to cause grief as each other.
Personally, I'd rather have gas go wrong. It's more easily dispersed for one thing so the chance of the whole amount igniting at once is less. With oil you stand a much better chance of getting a bang AND a resulting and enduring fire. Don't know what the specific energy value is for each but I'm pretty certain has a lot more than gas for a given Volume/ weight.
That said, the ability of gas to light much more easily that oil in my book makes the chance of Mishap much less. In an automated system you would have the spark running a second or so before the gas solenoid opened and then a flame detector looking for the fire to keep the gas running till it got the shutdown signal. If you fail to get a light, the Blower keeps running for say 30 Sec to clear all the gas then the controller goes for a relight.
The only way I know to light oil from the get go is high pressure atomisation using a special nozzle and controlled mixture settings. Way more complication that using gas and I would suspect has a lot of built in failure and danger points on it's own.
Keen to see what you come up with though! :0)
What size air compressor are you using
about the oil did you use pump
hey mate. any update on the NA burner, i have been thinking of some designs, i want to make one out of 3 truck brake drums. i was hoping to make a sort of permanent out door heater. i've thought of one design but it requres forced induction. i'm trying to think of a design that doesnt use forced induction, doesnt make too much noise. and burns clean.
so you know simple haha
Done it
wouldnt it help, to wrap some heatproof insulating material around the burner pipe? that way radiating temerature inside the pipe would be much higher and therefore oil would evaporate more easily?
+margus014 Yes, I am certain it would and that's a Very good suggestion! I don't have any such materials myself but I think they would work very well. I am planing on modifying this setup to make a Hybrid Spray/ drip burner and the insulation would make that work even better still. I'll keep an eye out and see what I can find.
Thanks for the valuable Suggestion!!
+Oil Burner you could use fiberglass cloth or rockwool. both very cheap
+Oil Burner Thanks Oil Burner, I will be building this to be used in an Aluminium scraping furnace. I had one of those manufactured overly complex burners and this design absolutely crushed it on performance when I small scaled tested it and now I will be building a full scale one as a result..... I wished I discovered your channel much sooner and I would have saved me from wasting $5000 CDN on that other burner. this build is estimated to cost me a mere $50 and with much better results......I would highly recommend your channel to anybody that needs or wants one,They just simply work damn good.... You sir, are a simplistic genius period!.
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Wow. Thank you for what I think is the overly kind words. I appreciate them very much.
I don' know about Genius but simple seems to be an appropriate description! :0)
This isn't actually something I came up with all on my own. I saw it somewhere years ago.
I'm just amazed that people go to so much trouble and expense with more complicated designs when this one works sooo well.
I want to incorporate this setup into one of my drip burners to make something that is a hybrid and gives the best of both worlds.
Thanks again for the kind words. It's always really good to know what I have shown has helped someone and is something they can use.
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How did you start it as enginne oil does not readily burn.
The oil coming out of the combustion chamber needs to be regulated,,it's more oil flowing through ,than what its needed causing oil to drop carrying flame along..
What are you using to power the air in the line? Obviously not a fan blower that would be to energy efficient looks like it could be an air compressor? How much PSI are you putting through it?
This is the one and only burner I have built that uses compressed air. I don't like them either because I can get more heat with far less energy use with a blower rather than a compressor. I Don't remember what the PSI I was running was. More to do with air Volume that pressure. This was to show how easy, cheap and simple a spray burner could be constructed as against everything else that seems to use special Nozzles and still gives problems.
Mite be a stupid question but if the diameter of the combustion chamber pipe was increased will that also increase the flame size or is it all down to air fuel quantity
Might make the flame Fatter and shorter so size is relevant but the heat output is down to the amount of fuel consumed, You may be able to get more power with a bigger tube by the induction of more secondary air IF you turn the fuel up but the heat output would be the same at the same fuel setting.
hi i can’t get and keep my one alight it just smokes up with no flames
Sir,may I know the air pressure of the compressor?
Is forced air mandatory for this to work?
Is there no way air holes will provide enough rush of air?
I'm looking to make a waste oil burner for a campfire to save money on fire wood.
There are updraft types favoured by the Russians and eastern block countries. they mainly use them for space heating but some are adapted for cooking. I have made these myself ( and lost the Videos) and they do work OK but they are dirty and sooty running no matter how clean they burn, you still get a LOT of buildup unlike the forced air types that burn soot free.
You also have far less control and ultimate heat output.
That said, they require no outside input at all apart from the Fuel.
Not sure how you are going to use this in a campfore you buy wood for but if you look at my 12V Bilge blower vid you can see you can use one of them with a car battery that would last all day and night. The blowers don't use much power and you could even slow them down possibly just using a 12 light bulb as a resistor. Depends on how much flame you want.
So the oil is drawn up by the air passing through the nozzle?
Same issue...
I tried the same thing and the air blows back thru the oil feed which I suspected it would, in 3rd grade.
Good work. To prevent the oil from dripping from the tip of the cylinder/tube, the cylinder tip circumference has to be curved or bent inwards by about 45 degrees. Also the air to fuel ratio should be increased so that the flame will be hotter to vapourize more oil for the combustion, so that the oil will not remain as liquid(vapourized oil cannot drip but liquid oil can)
Hi what oil is use in this oil burner?
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my safety tip, do not ride on top of it pretending it is a rocket bike because you just got set back in group 3.
Whats making the oil feed in a pump or wtf. Also air the lil tinny hose makes all that air flow.
yfr i need one .
Ha haaaaaa bonza matey
Hello how many liters of oil are needed per hour
It's a simple ramjet engine. Try getting more air in to it
Ok what feeds this burner. Oil im assuming is gravity what is th ecair supply
I'm building one to melt aluminium engine blocks
This is my one and so far only burner that runs on Compressed air . I prefer forced air burners as blowers are a lot quieter and use less power than compressors and also can be made fully portable with 12V Blowers.
There is no set CFM with this design, as with every other burner I do they are variable output so the consumption of air and fuel is completely dependent on how much heat you want to extract out of them.
For melting engine blocks, I would use a forced air burner as you could pull far more heat out of them without running an industrial size compressor. You can see where I have melted heads and other various aluminum pieces on my other vids. I forget the output of this burner, I'd guess you would maybe get up to 200Kw with a 8 CFM compressor but with a blower for a jumping castle, pretty much the sky is the limit. 600Kw from one of those is just where the fun begins. I would also Highly recommend using a pump for the oil if you want to go much above 200Kw as it makes tuning and stability so much easier. it's not complication, it's a great increase in ease of application, control-ability and potential output.
@@glumpy10 thanks for your reply it is great help, far from the (3rd grade response I kinda expected. LOL.
Thanks I will build one out of a grill cyclender thanks and keep the vedios coming.
Around what air pressure is the air coming into the burner?
+splinejunky About 20 psi here. I ran it at 30 the other day and it was more powerful and also used a lot more air of course.
Can you use a smaller main pipe?
+65BAJA You can use anything you like. I just used what I had lying around. it will work with whatever you have and is not dependent on any particular specifications.
what pressures are you running for the air and oil lines? Thanks!
+Tommy Rad THis was running about 20 PSI here. On the vid after this I ran 30 PSI and it made for a lot bigger Flame and produced a lot more heat.
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so,only the air side has any pressure? The oil is gravity fed?sorry for the nube questions. I'd like to build one in the barn.
+Tommy Rad Look at this Vid ua-cam.com/video/iW1odjaM8w8/v-deo.html and it will explain everything . Also have a look at the rest of my vids by clicking on the channel name to see all the rest.Might be something else you are interested in there. :0)
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thanks. cheers.
Is the oil gravity fed or is it pressurized
And it looks more then adequate to blacksmith
Where did you go i miss your videos
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Heading to home depo.
How much oil per hour does it use to say melt alumium?
Well depends how much Aluminium for a start and how well your furnace was insulated or if you did it open air. It's not like a car where you can get an MPG figure, but you could melt a good amount with as little as a litre if you wanted.
thanks for swift reply ... I see your point about exact set up..Ill test it out first hand then shall i :)
What type of oil is this
veg
Looks like my supra's exhaust
My aim to use waste oil and my Pyrolysis oil
LOL back crack and sack wax
I think you have it backwards
Design please
lol A fellow Aussie
how much oil it will burn per hour?...
+Madalin Mihai Like all my burners, the fuel consumption/ heat output is variable. The oneis fairly conservative but I'd guess about 100Kw or 10 L an hour flat out but again fuel consumption is directly related to how much heat you are trying to get out of the thing. There are no efficiency in this like with a car.
i wanted to use your project to heat my house at winter. That´s why i wanted to know the amount of oil that it will be burned per hour, ty
+Madalin Mihai I would suggest you work out the amount of heat you require. If you have a heater of some kind already, you could get an idea by looking at the rating of that. 1L of oil an hour generates 10Kw. 2-3L an hour would do most Homes well and truly I would think so you'd be looking at 2-3L an hour once the house was warmed up.
Thank you verry much for your help.
but we need something to do with our lathes and milling machines
Pulse jet baby haha
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