Just some additional info about the Joseon soldier's equipments! The levies/common soldiers could wear leather/paper/fiber armor, as they were cheaper to make than lamellar(chalgap)/dujeonggap, and provided reasonable protection. Also chainmail or plate and mail armor could have been used, as they were used in late Goryeo to early Joseon. But as far as I know lamellar and brigandine were the most common for heavy infantry, as mentioned in the video. Along with iron helmets, the Jeonrip was also used. Jeonrip is basically a hat made out of hardened fur, and it was sturdy enough to provide some protection of the wearer's head. The Dangpa's trident shape could apparently be used to catch enemy blades and prevent them from landing the attack. As for the weapons, on top of everything mentioned in the video, a lot of gunpowder weapons were used. Mortars(Wangu) and Bigyeokjincheonroe(mortar launched time fuze shrapnel bomb), Seungjachongtong(handcannon), Daejanggunjeon(Great general arrow, basically huge arrows shot by cannons), Cheonjachongtong/Jijachongtong/Hyeonjachongtong/Hwangjachongtong(cannons of various sizes), The famous Hwacha(which could fire rocket arrows called Singijeon, or could fire stacks of many handcannons like an organ gun). The gunpowder weapons played a big role in the war, and I thought it deserved some attention! Here is a photo of a Cheonjachongtong loaded with a Daejanggunjeon: img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R720x0.q80/?scode=mtistory2&fname=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile23.uf.tistory.com%2Fimage%2F213E88465803375C2567AA
Yeah I was wondering where all the many Korean gunpowder weapons were at! They were pretty commonly used in the Joseon Korea armed forces, especially in the navy.
The heavy cavalry are the first Ming troops sent in, since they're nearby, but it's southern infantrymen, both Han Chinese and drawn from various aboriginal groups who prove vital to defeating the Japanese. As the war goes on, the Ming push for more and more recruitment from the south, shipping numerous units of Cantonese pikemen to Korea, and paying bonuses to Zhuang, Yao, Miao, and Yi chieftains who can raise more aboriginal volunteers.
Wow, im amazed. I thought i was the only 1 that knew this in this comment. Good job lad. Yeah, im cantonese and im proud of my ancestor. They armed with long saber and rattan shield. The only thing is their armour were lightly equipped. But they put a massive blow onto the samurai.
Hwando is not a sword that appeared in the Joseon Dynasty, but a sword that appeared in the Goryeo Dynasty in Korea. Hwando is a sword that was introduced into Goryeo in Korea through the Yuan Dynasty (Mongolia) in Central Asia. Since then, the sword has become longer due to the influence of the Imjin war.
The Yuan Dynasty was not central Asia but East Asia, and its capital was Beijing.The horizontal knife is a product from the Tang Dynasty, not the Yuan Dynasty. The Japanese learned this technology in the Tang Dynasty and preserved it.
@@flyingbirdskingcloud2908 Japanese and Chinese cultures aren't entirely the same, u ignorant! Even Katana is not completely derived from Chinese sword, it's just partly influenced by Chinese! Chinese people are laying claim to Japanese culture like no tomorrow!
@@jackjackyphantom8854 You should not know history. Japan is a member of the Chinese cultural circle. The Chinese cultural circle includes Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Ryukyu.
@@flyingbirdskingcloud2908 And u think that Japanese only equal to Yamato? If China can be a multi-ethnic country, why can't Japan? Stop making ur own rules!
Thanks for another interesting video! I had a fun time watching it. It really helps viewers understand the way these armies operated. But I just wanted to mention that saying Hwando was inspired by the Japanese Katana can be a bit misleading. The term Hwando, meaning "ringed blade", was used to refer to almost all of the combat blades used in Joseon. It is a term with a pretty broad meaning. The name Hwando, or ringed blade was because the sheath of the weapon had rings so it could be strapped onto the user's belt. Hwando's single-edged curved shape is known to have derived from the swords used by nomadic people, which came into Korea during the Goryeo dynasty via the Yuan dynasty. That's why it has the single-edge curved blade shape, like the Katana. It's not because of influence from Japanese blades. As you said, some blades were indeed imported from Japan. Also the Hwando does get influenced by the Katana during the Imjin war. As the Hwando was commonly used as a secondary weapon(ranged weapons or polearms being the primary), it was quite short. That's why during the Imjin war the Koreans realized that they had to change their Hwando designs to fight against the Katana, and made them much longer like the Katana. But while it is true that some Hwando swords used in Korea were imported from Japan, and that Hwando's design does take influence from the Katana during the Imjin war, saying that "Hwando is inspired by Katana" can be misleading, as Hwando is from the beginning a very broad term used to refer to most of the combat blades used in Joseon, and because they do not derive from Japanese blades.
Absolutely! I mean specifically only in this time frame. Weapon and armour terms are so tricky at times, the Yao Dao is very similar in that it’s kinda a blanket term that could potentially refer to a lot of different designs
@@JapanatWar Thanks for the reply! I just wanted to clear things out to prevent confusion from other viewers. I agree that terms used for weapons in this era is very tricky. It's almost like using the word "rifle" to refer to all the different guns out there lol Anyway thanks for the fun video. I'm looking forward to future videos!
@@booprice5473 >”. 우리가 왜 일본 기술을 배워서 따라해 쓸대없이.” It is simply because Japanese swords had been much more superior to Korean ones. In fact, Yi Ik (李瀷, 이익) states in his "Seonghosaseol (星湖僿說, 성호사설)" as follows: "Although we have iron and furnaces of our own, both our swords and mirrors are no match for the wisdom of Wa (倭) to make those ones. All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones." Likewise, "The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)" says like this: ① 15 May, 1487: "Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those, are extremely sharp. Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly. Indeed, each arm is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan." ② 17 June, 1593: "More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than a child's toy compared to Japanese swords. Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords."
Ming dynasty general Li Rusong "The state of weaponry and training of the Korean army is terrible. There are no decent swords or spears, and most are armed with crude farm equipment and stone axes. It is very worrisome." "The tactic of the Japanese enemy was to fire their guns violently, followed by the cavalrymen with the faces of demi-gods and infantrymen armed with long spears, who ran with loud shouts. Before the gunfire ended, however, 80% of the Joseon army had already fled." Korean admiral Yi Sun-sin "When a general of the Japanese enemy comes charging at them, wielding a large sword, the soldiers are startled and flee, as if at a springtime cherry blossom viewing. Never go out to the battlefield in such a state." "The army was so miserable that I just wept silently. Without even paper, they exchanged letters with the military camps on land with bark. Many castles in Gyeongsang-do and Jeolla-do were short of even arrows, and they demanded them from the navy."
@@불루재이 then, joseon king injo 仁祖 인조 was "the right wing of korea", too. "the joseon wangjo sillok 朝鮮王朝實録 조선왕조실록" says, "military orders of our country is not very strict and easily violated, so our soldiers arbitrarily run away before they are to fight with their enemy face-to-face. therefore, it is natural that sword skills should have very little to do with any military strategies of our troops." (september 29, 1628) joseon king injo was also spreading revisionist propaganda those days
@@dandylion3783 Comment keeps getting deleted but yes, Koreans are cowards fair enough, you have your win. Now give me the exact source material please, not just a vague reference to a record full of countless materials. In 인조실록19권, 인조 6년 9월 29일 병술 during 1628년 명 천계(天啓) 8년, there is reference to the soldiers of the Joseon dynasty but I've so far yet to find the exact passage you've stated.
@@불루재이 just read up on the reference you found with considerable effort. for further info, why not visit the following site, and read the second paragraph of the article (from the third line) carefully? then, you will find how bravely the korean soldiers fought when you run over it. (copy and paste the letters below, and google it.) →moral standards - hendrick hamel hendrick hamel was another "right wing" who had an anti-korean sentiment
A lot of people misunderstand that Joseon was a leading player, and the Ming army was their reinforcements in this war. However, the truth of a matter is that the Ming was the central part of this war, and Joseon was a mere advance-guard of the Ming. In fact, Hideyoshi's real purpose was to conquer the Ming dynasty ultimately. In a word, Joseon only played a role of "a defensive fence" or "sacrificial pawns" for the Ming.
Great overview, but I feel like the Southern Ming tactics might merit a mention for the second invasion. It’s strange how in a war where all sides ostensibly used spears often, they’re rarely mentioned in accounts. Korean and Chinese documents have praise for Japanese swords but are quiet on the spears.
I agree! Swords weirdly enough have been romanticized in pretty much every culture that I’ve looked at even though they weren’t that common on a battlefield as far as use. I could be very much mistaken but the only culture I’ve seen really have a romanticization for the spear is Japan and maybe China, but I’m blanking on what those would’ve been.
@@JapanatWar the ancient greeks didn't quite romanticise the spear, but it was definitively widely respected as the instrument of war with several colloquial expressions in regards to its use including Troy conquered by dory and " (spear-won) and ""
@Japan at War In the cold weapon war, the longer the weapon, the more advantageous it is, but it is not beautiful. Therefore, modern cultural propaganda is always more willing to publicize the sword
Because most of the Imjin War consisted of siege and guerrilla warfare So Japanese pike couldn't effective in war and joseon consider most powerful japanese weapon is arquebus.
3:39 The trident is sometimes called dangpa 당파 but the correct name is samjichang 삼지창. It was used by guards and wasn't as common as the Korean movies and historical dramas portray. The samjichang looks really cool so it became the darling of prop masters in Korean media. The prongs are used defensively to bind weapons or clothes and ward off aggressors. It wasn't a weapon of war. It was also used to ward off dangerous wild animals such as wolves, tigers and warthogs. Koreans through out history had real problems with tigers and wart hogs. The tigers in Joseon were Siberian Tigers. Yes, the unreasonably large tigers with massive teeth and claws. Korean mountains were absolutely infested with these assholes and would often come down to hunt people. Warthogs still sometimes come down from the mountains and rampage through towns and villages causing thousands of dollars in damages. Right now, we love tigers and warthogs and we think they are cute, but to a person who lived in Joseon who mostly live in a valley surrounded by mountains, tigers and warthogs are the stuff of nightmares. The 3 pronged samjichang was a good tool to get a good chance of prodding at these fast moving and agile animals. TLDR The samjichang or dangpa was a guard's weapon and was the Joseon equivalent of a taser gun. It was mostly used to keep peace.
Its name is 당파. 삼지창 is just Korean for 'trident'. Calling dangpa a samjichang is just like calling a pillum a spear. It's not wrong, but it's not specific to the weapon you are referring to. As to the use of dangpa, while I do not have information as to whether it was used to ward off wild animals (although it is logical to assume so since Joseon's mountains were inhabited by tigers a d whatnot), dangpa did see use in the battlefield. The pronged designs were useful in catching enemy weapons, and they could also be employed against cavalry to an extent.
It's interesting that you say the Korean brigandine were worn by higher level officers while the lamellar were worn by lower level armored troops. The Ming seemed to have often given brigandine to lower level troops as mass produced munitions armor while lamellar was continued to be used for higher level troops. The Way of Archery channel has a video about Ming brigandine vs arroes, and it was only 0.7mm thick...thinner than lamellar. But the Ming may have brigandine of different quality and thickness...
I think Japanese would face many problems facing the Ming army, honestly it's clear that Ming got the most elite among 3, and Northern Chinese love heavy armor and weapon
Comparing Ming and Japan is like comparing the US army and Marines Overall Marines are great But when you look at the Army, it depends on the divisions. Army by far has more elite divisions that are more trained and better than the marines, but the sheer size of the army meand they are often overlooked and ignored by the public eyes.
@@Jake-dh9qk The Japanese actually got the numerical advantage, and the Japanese weapon that had the most impact on battles was actually arquebuses. So I don't think the marine and army analogy is that suited
@@dongf2618 the Chinese did actually have arquebuses they just didn't send them to korea. Chinese Calvary would have been more effective in the earlier part of the war when the Japanese were still in southern Korea, but they joined the war later when the war was in mountainous north.
@Jake4595 Both the Chinese army and the Japanese army have their own strengths. The advantages of the Chinese army are stronger armor, heavy artillery and cavalry; The advantages of the Japanese army are fire rope gun, samurai sword and mountain warfare
But it was the southern light infantry of Cantonese and Hakka troops that really crush the samurai in hand to hand combat. Armed with long chinese saber and rattan shield which is a remedy against japanese arquebus. Once u release fire and none penetrate, the samurai were death meat reloading while southern light infantry rush in ferociously with sword and pike. Northern cavalry were best against mongol and some turkic in the western front. Tats all.
You gave a very accurate explanation of Korean weapons in general, but a few things were wrong. Koreans didn't use Dangpa very much. They mainly used the Dangpa as a portable launcher for shooting Singijeon. The most commonly used weapons in the early Joseon Dynasty were the bow, axe, mace, and polearm. And the low rank soldiers of the Joseon Army mainly wore breastplates.
@6:02, that is the portray of the Ming Emperor at the time of Imjin War. The picture shows his returning to Beijing from outside. You can see there are dragons embroidered on his armor.
Hi, may I ask the mod name? Since I really admired the Toyotomi era as well, especially the fact where the Shogun gathered one of the most veteran armies in Japanese history to launch the invasion. And also it would be really enjoyable to see my Samurai fighting other kinds of armies :3
Since the ancient times to the medieval time. In term of weapon technology except for fire arms, the Chinese were known for their spears. The Japanese, the sword. The Koreans the bow and arrows. What's funny is that in China there are gyms that still teaches spear arts and in Japan, there's Kendo which is dominated by Japanese (obviously) and in Olympics, a branch of archery is dominated by the Koreans for 40 years and the committee had to change the rule because Koreans were getting all gold silver and bronze 😅 it's interesting how those skills still prevail in those 3 countries 😊
During the Muromachi period in Japan, Japanese swords made their way to China and then to Korea. Korea did not have a sword that could cut like a Japanese sword, so it was a Chinese straight sword, but Korea somehow made something that resembled a Japanese sword, but the casting technology was not available in Korea, so the swords that were made looked exactly the same. As for the contents, they could only make items that were far inferior to Japanese swords. (something like a large knife) During the Edo period, when a shogun was replaced, a Korean mission came to Edo to celebrate, and at that time the shogun gave the mission 500 Japanese swords as a souvenir. This was an extremely valuable item for Joseon, and high-ranking officials fought for it. In other words, things like Korean Japanese swords are imitations and have no value.
Korean curved sword that are similar to japanese katana design were alrdy in used during the goryeo period. Just like curved chinese saber were alrdy in used during the Song dynasty. The design of korean sword were similar due to cultural exchange but korean sword were always an inch shorter that katana and esp the muromachi era as this era katana were the longest. Chinese encounter wokou during the early 1400-1450 mentioned japanese sword were long and sliced thru armour ferociously. However, korean didnt really bother as their main weapon were bow and arrows. While chinese saber were always independently developed. With slighly curved and gradually broader towards the tip for armour chopping.
@@JOHN-w1i7u "조선의 무기 : 왜검(倭劒)과 왜장창(倭長槍)": 조선에는 많은 무기가 있었습니다. 물론 모든 무기가 조선에서 나온 무기는 아니였습니다. 조선에는 조선의 무기 뿐만 아니라 일본과 중국에서 전래된 무기가 아주 많이 있었습니다. 현재는 일본도(日本刀)라고 불리는 왜검(倭劒)도 전래된 무기 중의 하나였습니다. 조선시대에 이르러서는 왜인들이 왜검을 진상하기도 했으며, 왜인이 조선인으로 귀화하여 조선에서 왜검을 제작하거나, 조선인이 왜국에서 왜검제작방법을 배워오기도 했습니다. 허나 일본에 조총이 도입되기 이전까지는 조선이 원거리에서 왜구를 제압하는 것이 가능했습니다. 그래서 단병기는 찬밥신세를 면하지 못했고, 왜검도 피해갈 수는 없었습니다. 임진왜란이 발생하고, 왜군은 조총사격으로 조선군을 놀라게 합니다. 그리고 창과 칼을 들고 돌 격하여 조선군은 싸울 때마다 패배하게 됩니다. 이때부터 조선의 조정에서는 일본으로부터 도검 제작기술과 검술을 익히기 위해 노력하게 됩니다. 그러나 임진왜란이 끝나고도 조선군은 길이가 짧은 환도와 같은 칼을 선호했습니다. 조선의 환도에 비해 길이가 길었던 왜검은 당연히 병사들이 좋아하지 않았습니다. 하지만 후기조선의 환도에는 일본도가 많은 영향을 주었습니다.
Fang Tiang Ji "Side Heaven Spear", a spear that is often associated with the Three Kingdom warrior Lu bo, a great warrior but also a treacherous man riding on a mighty horse called Red hare said to be a descendant from the Bactrian horses. I always wondered why the Ming didn't use European style of Arquebuses. I recall the Mings did use alot of guns during the war with the Manchurians
@@JapanatWar also, I really appreciate shogunate but your Japanese pronunciation is much greater than his lol. I grew up in Hawaii so know a thing or two
@@JapanatWar lol, we should always try to be more perfect but yes: you don't pronounce the last vowel like I've always learned. You sound more natural and conversational than shogunate and that's why I didn't subscribe to him for weeks; because of his voice and pronunciation lol. but i couldn't deny his content and visuals were awesome. Speaking of which, I dig all your videos so far so I'd love to help if I can. There's a girl named lucidity who has the UA-cam channel JH4U. She lived and studied in Japan for years and does nice historical videos too. The best thing is her voice, very beautiful. She told me she's too shy to reach out for a collaboration because her channel is small. if you contacted her, I'm sure she'd be excited and you could help each other immensely. Also, you know more about Korea than any other UA-camr ive seen so you're a godsend. All I knew was they were possibly the best navy ever so thanks again so much for filling me in. I wish you all the best.
In the movie "Fortress" .The Joseon army was shown wearing armor and it was verified based on historical Artifacts. Joseon army wears armor all the time but due to poverty and corruption of the officials, Most of the joseon soldiers provide their own armor. During the imjin war ,Joseon soldiers wear armor but not all because they are not fully prepared.
Fortress depicted like 30-40 years after imjin war. Where they were much prepared at that time for invaders. In fact Japanese govt did write letter to Joseon to provide military assistance, but the nightmare of japanese samurai is still fresh and they were hoping Ming would help instead. Lol. But in the end. They are on their own.
3:59 it name in korea '왜검', it is weapon in joseon It originated from the Japanese who defected to the imjin war And in the war at that time, warships were so important that their fate was divided in the naval battle, and it is regrettable that they were left out. For your information, I just used a translator because I am not good at English. Therefore, it is clear that grammar can be wrong. It was a pleasant video.
What if… Nobunaga invades Korea during his lifetime? Would the outcome be the same as the one that Hideyoshi got during his glorious yet reckless campaign or will he somehow be successful in the conquest of Korea?
Very interesting video! In the relatively few depictions I've seen of the Imjin War (whether movies or just drawings), you could expect to see a reasonable amount of heavily armored samurai on the Japanese side. I'm not saying they weren't there, I'm sure there were, but it's still interesting that most of the Japanese in this particular war weren't actually that heavily armored. Your point that there wasn't enough infrastructure available to repair damaged armor makes sense, considering the Japanese were invading and fighting in another country, and most of the war the Japanese saw during their feudal period was on their own soil (and against each other). Makes sense that a lot of the Koreans weren't heavily armored either. If I remember correctly (could be wrong), Korea enjoyed a long period of peace before the invasions started, so they were pretty ill-prepared, at least at first.
Exactly! Northern Koreans would actually have heavier armour when compared to the southern armies as they would often come in conflict with Jurchens (Manchurian) on their border. Death numbers in this war are also a very complicated subject. Some of the battle counts make no sense, and don’t add up. Plus actual deaths from sickness are unreliable or even nonexistent!
True, however there are some Korean infantry that were decently armored and that would be the naval marines as Korean did have a dedicated navy to protect the Korean coast from pirate attacks and the naval base garrison
@@nathanjangs Yeah, I did some further research recently, and I think from the looks of it Korean infantry could sometimes have a kind of armor that looked like a black vest. Apparently it was some kind of paper armor? www.deviantart.com/glimja/art/Joseon-Dynasty-Armors-625760241
@@dr_drago I see..I think the paper armor is more like light armor for Skirmisher and scout units. Also, I do know that before the imjin war, Korean military experiment on different material to be used in armor. So the paper armor is maybe a civilian clothing but slightly armored with the purpose of providing scout, messanger, and Skirmisher with adequate protection while not over bearing on them
A big reasons why they emphasize how garbage their swords are compared to the trained samurai class also is due to the heavy restrictions on sword production by the government while most existing swords amongst the infantry probably sat in armories for decades without real use. Given that up till that point the central army basically hadn't really been mobilized for almost a century, I'm guessing weapons upkeep was not high on their priority list. Also, if I recall, military officials who paid too much attention to weapons prep during the peace often would be stopped by corrupt bureaucrats who were worried about uprisings or rivals. Corruption was always the worst enemy of the Joseon dynasty.
1:53 as far as I know, the brigandine is of Asian origin and brought to Europe by the Turkic-Mongolian invasions 3:36 one person cannot effectively use a 4 meter long spear, this requires several people or formation / phalanx 4:10 Koreans do not need to copy anything in Japan, the Japanese katana saber is a development of the Chinese single-edged weapon that the Japanese copied. Chokuto are ancient single-edged sabers of the 5th-7th centuries AD. e (reminiscent of scimitars), which in the VIII-IX century began to lengthen, which led to the appearance of the katana. In the Asuka period (538-710), with the help of Korean and Chinese blacksmiths, Japan began to produce its own iron, and by the 7th century they had mastered the technology of forging multilayer steel. Some swords from the kofun era have the Chinese characters for "sword from kofun in Inariyama" written in the Chinese style. Japanese weapons and culture come from China and Korea. the immediate and most direct ancestor of the katana is Varabite-no-tati, it was a short cleaver, with a total length of about 40-50 cm. It had a one-handed hilt with a small front stop, there was no developed guard yet. Naturally, Korea was also under strong Chinese influence, so China is the most ancient, developed and wealthy state of East Asia that influenced Asians as much as the Greeks and Romans on Europeans
I know it's been a while since you made this video, but do you remember the music you used for each section? I'd like to track them down. They really set the tone well! Great selection!
Where is 편전 pyun jeon? The baby arrow also known as... this was even more critical than regular bow or gak goong 각궁 u described - this was more destructive and longer and no other country has a bow like this
@@hzc8942he is right, its called cavalry division of Liaoning. They are of course 90% chinese with small minority of Mongol and Manchu contingent. Anyhow, it was the southern chinese of Cantonese and Hakka contingent light infantry man and marine and defeated the Japanese. These southern troops were armed with long chinese saber, and rattan shield where japanese arquebus couldnt penetrate. And chinese saber with design of the tip slightly broader to chop into samurai armour easily.
why do i see so many depictions of japanese troops in full armor ? very old depictions of the second invasion. i also saw many of this depictions on samuel hawley videos. i dont know if those drawings were made years after the war, but they are definetly old depictions. showing ming and korean troops fighting very heavy armored samurai during the second invasion
Most were. You’ll notice a lot are wearing period incorrect armour as well. It’s just romanticization. The reality is that most of the men sent over were ashigaru, very few actual samurai, and other than the commanders most were low ranking. It definitely can be very confusing!
@@JapanatWar thanks for claring up. one more question, how common was the use of the Kabuto ? the simpler samurai helms were just SO common in mailand japan in this period that i cantg help but ask myself how many of the ashigaru fighting in korea were wearing at least the kabuto.
@@andrewbatist6355 It varied army to army. One of the mistakes that gets made is assuming there was uniformity amongst the armies, there was some, but not perfect. Tachibana for example equipped a good number of his men with momonari. The jingasa would've been the most common 😁
@@JapanatWar just to know that there were some momonari kabuto types on the field is cool enough. you just made my day. it seems futile but i just wanted to paint the scene in my head. becouse eventually i will be drawing japanese soldiers wearing them in these battles. so, i will depict some units under Tachibana and research more on those. thanks for the help i will be watching your full playlist on the imjin war this next week. just finished samuel hawley´s. Great job !
@@changchadchanamdong2668 not just modified, its upgraded. and chinese have no this kind of grenade as far as i know. Prove me if you say 'MODIFIED'. ua-cam.com/video/8288Y3xmWaI/v-deo.html
If the original intention of the war was to walk over Korea and attack the Ming then surely the Japanese would have expected to face a heavy cavalry army. So why would the Japanese not bring heaps of pikes with them?
@@jsj1381 sorry I worded the statement incorrectly. I meant to say "cavalry heavy army." But on your point. You telling me the Takada's didn't use heavy cavalry? If yes, what's your definition of "heavy cavalry"?
@@relpmat Ok. There is something wrong but did u thought japanese pikes is for cavarly heavy army? Their pikes is only for enemy pikes in japanese history. Not for cavarly heavy army. they didn't experience about cavarly heavy army in korea or manchu until cross the sea Thats why they didn't heaps pikes with their ships and became the breaked heads after then And maybe u told me 'Takeda shinken'. not 'Takada' i think so. Actually, japanese heavy cavalry is different type with Europe or Korea,Manchu,Mongol,China. Its already same with 'Heavy Infantry' in real history
@@jsj1381 So what's your version of events during the Battle of Mikatagahara? Did the Takeda army not deploy a cavalry charge on Ieyasu? As for Japanese did not use pikes against Cavalry. Even if that is true, surely just common sense a longer spear is better than shorter spear to deter a horse
China being so heavily walled in makes looking into chinese armour and weapons very hard. Lots of museum stuff from china isn't accessible to interested westerners.
the cav was the most effective army in Korea against Japan on land since Japan never really experienced massive cavarly attacks prior to the war. The lack of skills of Japanese cavarly is also to be noted as there are records written by Korean cavarly generals who encountered Japanese cavarly fighting on foot when under attack rather than fighting on horseback like Koreas bow cavarly. However Japan eventually picked up some tactics later on as the Korean court evaluating their cavalry/anti-cavalry tactics as "not bad".
"Muyedobotongji (武芸図譜通志, 무예도보통지)" says as follows: "Only bows and arrows have still remained in our country since ancient times. Although our troops are provided with both swords and spears now, we do not have any methodology to learn how to use those. Cavalrymen on horseback hold spears in their hands in arena, but (they are unable to use them because) any military methods to use those spears have not been succeeded. This is the reason why these weapons had been abandoned long time ago. ... All this happened because any military exercises for using swords and spears have not been passed down in our country." (從古所傳只有弓矢一技,至於劒槍,則徒有其器,顧無習用之法,馬上一槍雖用於試場, 而其法亦未詳備.故劒槍之 棄器久矣.・・・ 皆由於習法之不傳故也)
to be frank I do not think the Joseon cavalry did good against the Japanese army at all as seen in the Battle of Chongju. The Ming cavalry however was very effective because they were very experienced and led by a good general like Li Rusong. To understand what Im saying see the Battle of Byeokjegwan where a much smaller Ming army held itself against the Japanese after pursuing too deep off Hanseong. I do not think the Ming would achieve this without their cavalry repeatedly beating off Japanese attacks and decimating parts of the Japanese corps
出警入蹕圖表現的是明朝京軍,什至是皇帝近衛隊的形象,平番得勝圖,反而是明朝北方邊軍的形象,同時亦是明朝派出朝鮮支援朝鮮王國的北軍形象。 The painting that you used is "出警入蹕圖" which showing the Ming Dynasty Beijing Central army, and even they are Emperor's guards (錦衣衛), for the image of the Ming Dynasty's northern frontier army, use painting "平番得勝圖" would be better, it is shown the image of the Ming Dynasty's northern army who sent North Korea to support the Korean kingdom. .
Bro you barely grazed the Korean weaponry, including the cannons, rocket propelled arrows, double edged swords, and multiple polearms. Only the waegum was Japanese inspired while several others were domesrically produced.
I might revisit this in the future, I’m sure I missed some. Definitely could’ve covered the cannons more. But this is only supposed to be a video on the most common!
For once, a youtuber who doesn't put Japanese and their "samurai" armies in a ridiculously unfounded High pedestal over their enemies in the Imjin war.
Sad how in Goguryeo (ancient Korean kingdom) the soldier had high quality armor with neck protection and had two horns on their helmet, they even armored their horse and it is said that they had their armors and weapons at their own home (Balhae as well) but during Joseon they didn't even wore a chest plate 😢
Gorguyeo is a warlike kingdom and the korean are diff from the korean of Joseon era. Joseon era emphasize on Confucianism therefore they deemed warlike is barbaric and sword is for the uneducated. They prefer bow and arrow as it deemed gentlemen. Just like straight sword or curved slender sword were considered civilised in china but it wont be used in battle. Most saber used on the battlefield are broader and longer.
1. The Fangtian Halberd is a ceremonial weapon, not a practical weapon. 2. The 腰刀waist sword developed from the Khitan, Jin and Mongolian sabers of the Yuan Dynasty. Both the Ming and Qing Dynasties inherited part of the military tradition of the Yuan Dynasty. The most obvious are the sabers and helmets、armors. 3. 布面甲Cloth armor is a primitive type of plate armor. The cut is looser than European plate armor to accommodate soldiers of various sizes. The armor pieces are smaller than European plate armor.The first people to use cloth armor in East Asia were the Mongols of the Yuan Dynasty. The earliest physical objects are still in Japan and are the equipment of the Mongolian army during the Yuan-Japanese War. 4. The matchlock gun was a weapon equipped by China, Japan and South Korea at that time. The Chinese called it "鳥銃" and the Japanese called it "鐵炮". Of course, the quality of Japanese matchlocks at that time was better. 5. 大將軍炮The general cannon was actually a naval gun fished out from a Portuguese shipwreck. Later, Portuguese craftsmen in Macau were hired to imitate it. 6. The Japanese bow is indeed very powerful. Its original design purpose is actually the same as that of the Kaiyuan bow and the Manchu bow. It is used to shoot long and heavy arrows at close range. Like a large caliber pistol designed to fire subsonic rounds.
During the imjin war, the Japanese had suffered a lot higher casualties against a smaller number of Chinese forces. Some people say it’s because of better cavalry and artillery + more experience in combined arms warfare. What’s your take? P.S I got this from the great Ming blog
Im personally suspect on most casualty numbers in this war, I get into that reason in my episode on the Battle of Pyongyang! BUUUTTT We also have to remember this isn't Samurai cavalrymen vs Ming Elite cavalry this is Ming Elite cavalry vs ashigaru, and even then the circumstances have to be considered.
The Japanese katana wasn't very good at that time, so... No matter how good a craftsman is, the finished katana breaks easily when used in practice. The Korean Hwando was stronger than the Japanese sword, and if you look at the actual war history books, there are many cases where the Japanese katana was broken because of the Hwando. Katana didn't even come from Japan, it already existed in China and Korea. Mainly, China and Korea focused on stabbing rather than cutting, so they used a lot of double-edged swords. In Japan, it was mainly about cutting, so only a single-edged sword was used.
Lol okay. Except it was the chokuto that came from Chinese swords. Katana came from Tachi after their experience with Mongols. There's also several instances of Ming and Joseon commanders praising the sharpness of the katana. Which is why blades were a significant export of the Japanese isles. The statement that a katana isn't good no matter the craftsmanship tell me you know nothing about smithing.
@@JapanatWar Exactly. "The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)," for instance, says as follows: ・"Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those, are extremely sharp. Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly. Indeed, each arm is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan." (15 May, 1487) ・"More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than a child's toy in comparison with Japanese swords. Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords." (17 June, 1593) Likewise, "Muyedobotongji: Wae Gum (武藝圖譜通志 倭劍)" says, "According to Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀), the Japanese make swords of all lengths and sizes. Every Japanese soldier wears/carries (佩刀) a long sword. A small knife attached to the long sword is used for various purposes. ... Japanese swords are so strong and sharp. Therefore, even Chinese sword are no match for those Japanese ones." (茅元儀曰、日本刀大小長短不同、每人有一長刀、謂之佩刀 上又挿一小刀、以便雑用 (中略) 刀極剛利中国不及) Further, Yi Ik (李瀷)'s "Seonghosaseol (星湖僿說, 성호사설)" says like this: "Although we have iron and furnaces of our own, both our swords and mirrors are no match for the wisdom of WA to make those ones. All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones."
lucky-Man According to Lin Boyuan (林伯原), prior to the times of Jiajing (嘉靖帝, emperor of the Ming dynasty), Japanese swords were imported into China as trading goods, tributes or complimentary gifts on occasion. Lin Boyuan continues to argue as follows: "Since the year of Jiajing 31 (A.D.1552), the massive Japanese invasion of the southeast coast of China made Chinese people notice the advantage of Japanese swordplay. Meanwhile, Chinese army and civilians who loved Chinese wushu needed better sword skills. Therefore, Japanese swordplay became rapidly known and absorbed by them and spread among the folk people. At that time, some members of the Chinese army were equipped with Japanese long swords; the warriors used cane shields, and the archers and the cavalry were equipped with Japanese waist broadswords." Thus, people in China had a quite fascination for Japanese swords. Previously, Tang Shunzhi (唐順之) got captivated by Japanese sword, and went so fa as to make "Ode to the Japanese Sword (日本刀歌)." The earliest, among others, is said to go back to Ouyyng Xiu (欧陽脩), who composed a poetry under the title of "The Song of the Japanese Sword" as well. In fact, around this time, influenced by the shape of Japanese sword, China began to emulate those and made Chang Dao (長刀), which was subsequently called "Miao Dao (苗刀)." (just copy and paste the following letters, and then google it yourself: ー> Chang Dao (長刀) Great Ming Military) Why, then, wouldn't have these people of China acquired Korean swords (hwando or something) if those ones had been that excellent? Why didn't they pay particular attention to any Korean swords those days? The answer is so simple. Do you get what I say here?
Japan's historical distortion, historical revisionism, is too absurd Germany reflects on itself Germany teaches history accurately The Japanese should emulate Germany Come to Korea and study There is a lot of historical evidence Every country has a dark history. That's one thing. Whether they are ashamed and regret the wrong doings in the past and not cover it up is another the Asian Holocaust the Asian Nazis Japan should reflect on itself Germany knows how to reflect on itself, but Japan doesn't There is a lot of historical evidence in Korea It's an accurate history At that time, Japan was a serious, twisted evil empire As soon as industrialization succeeded, it invaded the neighboring country I must say that American soldier was necessary and it saved at least 20x more lives considering that Imperial Japan never wanted to stop doing Asian holocaust. Thank the American soldier for stopping the Asian Nazis The adults told me a lot of stories But Japan denies history You have to reflect history correctly to get along well in the future For future generations, too
@@JapanatWar Handcannon was a common weapon for Joseon army. Also delayed fuse bombs, mortars, and larger cannons with fin stabilized projectile, multi cannon carts, etc
Hwando actually inspired from mongol cavalry sword. Katana does. Mongol sword->hwando->katana This is the fact. Before we fought mongol, we used straight sword called hwandudaedo.
Chinese claims are questionable due to lack of survived evidence. There are few Ming weapons survived in Japan and Korea as Japanese took some of them back to Japan and Koreans dug up some lost weapons still left in Korea. I went to both Japan and Korea war history museums, I have never seen any Chinese helmets or body armors but saw their long dao sword used from horse back.
@@thomasblanc3457 lol... that burn... haha. Its really sad that many of the historic recordings were destroyed by the Chinese themselves during Mao's time. So now they have to depend on their neighbors for historical facts. I guess thats why they call dips on anything they find cool and say it's their Culture.
@@thomasblanc3457 Please stop this nonsense of yours, no one in history would smear ancient china like you do like the modern western media. Obviously the records of china, the center of east asian culture, are undoubtedly the most convincing, and many of them are only available in china. Many yankees are as ignorant and confident as you are, and that's the problem with our society. There is also someone who says that only records are found outside of china, I don't know what historical inventor he heard that claim from, japan and korea do occasionally make such statements, however history buffs know it's only because they want to deny the connection between modern and ancient china, just like rome empire, even if some of the ruins were destroyed, such centers of civilization would still have a history far beyond that of these peripheral regions.
1: 33에 나오는 조선병사의 갑옷은 철로 만들어 졌다 부산에서 지하철 공사할때 발견됌 조선의 귀족 류성용의 갑주는 저런 모양인데 헬멧은 저런 모양이 아니고 바디의 갑옷은 가죽으로 되어 있었다 두정갑을 반드시 장교나 귀족이 입었던것도 아닌것 같고 귀족도 찰갑의 갑옷을 입었던것 같다 그냥 개인 취향이나 경제력의 차이 에서 나온거지 귀족이라고 반드시 두정갑을 입었던게 아니다 두정갑은 몽골침략때 부터 있었지만 임진왜란 당시 에는 크게 유행하지 않다가 병자호란 만주족의 갑옷에서' 유행 하기 시작했음 당파는 임진왜란 이후에 명나라의 영향을 받아 사용하기 시작하고 전쟁 당시에는 사용하지 않던 무기였다
Just some additional info about the Joseon soldier's equipments!
The levies/common soldiers could wear leather/paper/fiber armor, as they were cheaper to make than lamellar(chalgap)/dujeonggap, and provided reasonable protection.
Also chainmail or plate and mail armor could have been used, as they were used in late Goryeo to early Joseon. But as far as I know lamellar and brigandine were the most common for heavy infantry, as mentioned in the video.
Along with iron helmets, the Jeonrip was also used. Jeonrip is basically a hat made out of hardened fur, and it was sturdy enough to provide some protection of the wearer's head.
The Dangpa's trident shape could apparently be used to catch enemy blades and prevent them from landing the attack.
As for the weapons, on top of everything mentioned in the video, a lot of gunpowder weapons were used.
Mortars(Wangu) and Bigyeokjincheonroe(mortar launched time fuze shrapnel bomb),
Seungjachongtong(handcannon),
Daejanggunjeon(Great general arrow, basically huge arrows shot by cannons),
Cheonjachongtong/Jijachongtong/Hyeonjachongtong/Hwangjachongtong(cannons of various sizes),
The famous Hwacha(which could fire rocket arrows called Singijeon, or could fire stacks of many handcannons like an organ gun).
The gunpowder weapons played a big role in the war, and I thought it deserved some attention!
Here is a photo of a Cheonjachongtong loaded with a Daejanggunjeon:
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Yeah I was wondering where all the many Korean gunpowder weapons were at! They were pretty commonly used in the Joseon Korea armed forces, especially in the navy.
@@yaleyoon6856 True!
@@yaleyoon6856 And the Hwacha which was said to be used a lot during the war
당파는 임진왜란 이후 명나라에서 도입 된것이다 당시 조선군은 나무를 끼울수 있는 홈이 있는 3M 짜리 창을 사용하였음
일본처럼 5~6M 짜리 창을 만드는 나무는 조선의 남부지방 일부에만 존재 했음 가격이 비싸고 조선에서는 그정도 길이의 창이 필요 없었음
Dangpa or the fork trident was used by the Chinese side too, as well as the wolf brush or Lang Xian / Nang Seon.
The heavy cavalry are the first Ming troops sent in, since they're nearby, but it's southern infantrymen, both Han Chinese and drawn from various aboriginal groups who prove vital to defeating the Japanese. As the war goes on, the Ming push for more and more recruitment from the south, shipping numerous units of Cantonese pikemen to Korea, and paying bonuses to Zhuang, Yao, Miao, and Yi chieftains who can raise more aboriginal volunteers.
You did a very intensive study on the Ming troops in the Imjin war.
Wow, im amazed. I thought i was the only 1 that knew this in this comment. Good job lad.
Yeah, im cantonese and im proud of my ancestor. They armed with long saber and rattan shield. The only thing is their armour were lightly equipped. But they put a massive blow onto the samurai.
Hwando is not a sword that appeared in the Joseon Dynasty, but a sword that appeared in the Goryeo Dynasty in Korea.
Hwando is a sword that was introduced into Goryeo in Korea through the Yuan Dynasty (Mongolia) in Central Asia. Since then, the sword has become longer due to the influence of the Imjin war.
The Yuan Dynasty was not central Asia but East Asia, and its capital was Beijing.The horizontal knife is a product from the Tang Dynasty, not the Yuan Dynasty. The Japanese learned this technology in the Tang Dynasty and preserved it.
@@flyingbirdskingcloud2908 Japanese and Chinese cultures aren't entirely the same, u ignorant! Even Katana is not completely derived from Chinese sword, it's just partly influenced by Chinese!
Chinese people are laying claim to Japanese culture like no tomorrow!
@@jackjackyphantom8854 You should not know history. Japan is a member of the Chinese cultural circle. The Chinese cultural circle includes Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Ryukyu.
@@flyingbirdskingcloud2908 And u think that Japanese only equal to Yamato? If China can be a multi-ethnic country, why can't Japan? Stop making ur own rules!
@@flyingbirdskingcloud2908 Yes, it's a fact that Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese have strong influence from Chinese, but they aren't Chinese!
Thanks for another interesting video! I had a fun time watching it. It really helps viewers understand the way these armies operated.
But I just wanted to mention that saying Hwando was inspired by the Japanese Katana can be a bit misleading.
The term Hwando, meaning "ringed blade", was used to refer to almost all of the combat blades used in Joseon. It is a term with a pretty broad meaning.
The name Hwando, or ringed blade was because the sheath of the weapon had rings so it could be strapped onto the user's belt.
Hwando's single-edged curved shape is known to have derived from the swords used by nomadic people, which came into Korea during the Goryeo dynasty via the Yuan dynasty. That's why it has the single-edge curved blade shape, like the Katana. It's not because of influence from Japanese blades.
As you said, some blades were indeed imported from Japan. Also the Hwando does get influenced by the Katana during the Imjin war. As the Hwando was commonly used as a secondary weapon(ranged weapons or polearms being the primary), it was quite short. That's why during the Imjin war the Koreans realized that they had to change their Hwando designs to fight against the Katana, and made them much longer like the Katana.
But while it is true that some Hwando swords used in Korea were imported from Japan, and that Hwando's design does take influence from the Katana during the Imjin war, saying that "Hwando is inspired by Katana" can be misleading, as Hwando is from the beginning a very broad term used to refer to most of the combat blades used in Joseon, and because they do not derive from Japanese blades.
Absolutely! I mean specifically only in this time frame. Weapon and armour terms are so tricky at times, the Yao Dao is very similar in that it’s kinda a blanket term that could potentially refer to a lot of different designs
@@JapanatWar Thanks for the reply! I just wanted to clear things out to prevent confusion from other viewers.
I agree that terms used for weapons in this era is very tricky. It's almost like using the word "rifle" to refer to all the different guns out there lol
Anyway thanks for the fun video. I'm looking forward to future videos!
@@JapanatWar 전쟁 이전 세종대왕 때부터 일본으로 건너가 카타나를 만드는 기술을 배워온 한국인 들이 있었음
세종대왕에게 상금도 받았음
이순신 장군의 칼도 일본에서 기술을 배운 한국인이 이순신 장군에게 카타나를 만들어 바쳤음
@@부엉이형-r8t아니 큰일날 말을하내요. 우리가 왜 일본 기술을 배워서 따라해 쓸대없이. 상은 커녕 벌을 받지 어디 감히 이순신 장군님한테 일본 무기를주면. 우리 한국인들은 자존심과 피눈물로 싸웠읍니다.
@@booprice5473 >”. 우리가 왜 일본 기술을 배워서 따라해 쓸대없이.”
It is simply because Japanese swords had been much more superior to
Korean ones.
In fact, Yi Ik (李瀷, 이익) states in his "Seonghosaseol (星湖僿說, 성호사설)" as follows:
"Although we have iron and furnaces of our own, both our swords and
mirrors are no match for the wisdom of Wa (倭) to make those ones.
All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign
craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones."
Likewise, "The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)" says
like this:
① 15 May, 1487:
"Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those,
are extremely sharp.
Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly.
Indeed, each arm is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan."
② 17 June, 1593:
"More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than
a child's toy compared to Japanese swords.
Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords."
Very good idea
Thank you!
Ming dynasty general Li Rusong
"The state of weaponry and training of the Korean army is terrible. There are no decent swords or spears, and most are armed with crude farm equipment and stone axes. It is very worrisome."
"The tactic of the Japanese enemy was to fire their guns violently, followed by the cavalrymen with the faces of demi-gods and infantrymen armed with long spears, who ran with loud shouts. Before the gunfire ended, however, 80% of the Joseon army had already fled."
Korean admiral Yi Sun-sin
"When a general of the Japanese enemy comes charging at them, wielding a large sword, the soldiers are startled and flee, as if at a springtime cherry blossom viewing. Never go out to the battlefield in such a state."
"The army was so miserable that I just wept silently. Without even paper, they exchanged letters with the military camps on land with bark. Many castles in Gyeongsang-do and Jeolla-do were short of even arrows, and they demanded them from the navy."
명나라 장군 이여송의 조상이 조선인임 조선에서 살인을 하고 요동으로 도망갔음
You must be really dense to believe this revisionist propaganda. The right wing of Korea love to spread it because they are self hating.
@@불루재이
then, joseon king injo 仁祖 인조 was "the right wing of korea", too.
"the joseon wangjo sillok 朝鮮王朝實録 조선왕조실록" says,
"military orders of our country is not very strict and easily violated,
so our soldiers arbitrarily run away before they are to fight with their enemy face-to-face.
therefore, it is natural that sword skills should have very little to do with any military strategies of our troops." (september 29, 1628)
joseon king injo was also spreading revisionist propaganda those days
@@dandylion3783 Comment keeps getting deleted but yes, Koreans are cowards fair enough, you have your win. Now give me the exact source material please, not just a vague reference to a record full of countless materials. In 인조실록19권, 인조 6년 9월 29일 병술 during 1628년 명 천계(天啓) 8년, there is reference to the soldiers of the Joseon dynasty but I've so far yet to find the exact passage you've stated.
@@불루재이
just read up on the reference you found with considerable effort.
for further info, why not visit the following site, and read the second paragraph of the article (from the third line) carefully? then, you will find how bravely the korean soldiers fought when you run over it.
(copy and paste the letters below, and google it.)
→moral standards - hendrick hamel
hendrick hamel was another "right wing" who had an anti-korean sentiment
A lot of people misunderstand that Joseon was a leading player,
and the Ming army was their reinforcements in this war.
However, the truth of a matter is that the Ming was the central part of this war,
and Joseon was a mere advance-guard of the Ming.
In fact, Hideyoshi's real purpose was to conquer the Ming dynasty ultimately.
In a word, Joseon only played a role of "a defensive fence" or "sacrificial pawns" for the Ming.
Great overview, but I feel like the Southern Ming tactics might merit a mention for the second invasion.
It’s strange how in a war where all sides ostensibly used spears often, they’re rarely mentioned in accounts. Korean and Chinese documents have praise for Japanese swords but are quiet on the spears.
I agree! Swords weirdly enough have been romanticized in pretty much every culture that I’ve looked at even though they weren’t that common on a battlefield as far as use. I could be very much mistaken but the only culture I’ve seen really have a romanticization for the spear is Japan and maybe China, but I’m blanking on what those would’ve been.
@@JapanatWar the ancient greeks didn't quite romanticise the spear, but it was definitively widely respected as the instrument of war with several colloquial expressions in regards to its use including Troy conquered by dory and " (spear-won) and ""
@Japan at War In the cold weapon war, the longer the weapon, the more advantageous it is, but it is not beautiful. Therefore, modern cultural propaganda is always more willing to publicize the sword
Because most of the Imjin War consisted of siege and guerrilla warfare
So Japanese pike couldn't effective in war and joseon consider most powerful japanese weapon is arquebus.
@@dog3861 That makes sense.
Hey thanks for this video! I would like to see a similar video about the armor and weapons usedsuring the yuan invasian of japan
Will be covering that war in depth in the future! Especially as Im able to hire people to help me push out content
3:39 The trident is sometimes called dangpa 당파 but the correct name is samjichang 삼지창. It was used by guards and wasn't as common as the Korean movies and historical dramas portray. The samjichang looks really cool so it became the darling of prop masters in Korean media. The prongs are used defensively to bind weapons or clothes and ward off aggressors. It wasn't a weapon of war.
It was also used to ward off dangerous wild animals such as wolves, tigers and warthogs. Koreans through out history had real problems with tigers and wart hogs. The tigers in Joseon were Siberian Tigers. Yes, the unreasonably large tigers with massive teeth and claws. Korean mountains were absolutely infested with these assholes and would often come down to hunt people. Warthogs still sometimes come down from the mountains and rampage through towns and villages causing thousands of dollars in damages. Right now, we love tigers and warthogs and we think they are cute, but to a person who lived in Joseon who mostly live in a valley surrounded by mountains, tigers and warthogs are the stuff of nightmares. The 3 pronged samjichang was a good tool to get a good chance of prodding at these fast moving and agile animals.
TLDR The samjichang or dangpa was a guard's weapon and was the Joseon equivalent of a taser gun. It was mostly used to keep peace.
Its name is 당파. 삼지창 is just Korean for 'trident'. Calling dangpa a samjichang is just like calling a pillum a spear. It's not wrong, but it's not specific to the weapon you are referring to.
As to the use of dangpa, while I do not have information as to whether it was used to ward off wild animals (although it is logical to assume so since Joseon's mountains were inhabited by tigers a d whatnot), dangpa did see use in the battlefield. The pronged designs were useful in catching enemy weapons, and they could also be employed against cavalry to an extent.
당파는 임진왜란 이후 명나라에서 도입 된것이다 당시 조선군은 나무를 끼울수 있는 홈이 있는 3M 짜리 창을 사용하였음
Similar types of fork tridents were used by the Ming Chinese as well, it was not a uniquely Korean weapon.
镗钯是一种农具啊农具 明朝禁军中 围子营有专门使用镗钯的小队
It's interesting that you say the Korean brigandine were worn by higher level officers while the lamellar were worn by lower level armored troops. The Ming seemed to have often given brigandine to lower level troops as mass produced munitions armor while lamellar was continued to be used for higher level troops. The Way of Archery channel has a video about Ming brigandine vs arroes, and it was only 0.7mm thick...thinner than lamellar. But the Ming may have brigandine of different quality and thickness...
I think Japanese would face many problems facing the Ming army, honestly it's clear that Ming got the most elite among 3, and Northern Chinese love heavy armor and weapon
Comparing Ming and Japan is like comparing the US army and Marines
Overall Marines are great
But when you look at the Army, it depends on the divisions. Army by far has more elite divisions that are more trained and better than the marines, but the sheer size of the army meand they are often overlooked and ignored by the public eyes.
@@Jake-dh9qk The Japanese actually got the numerical advantage, and the Japanese weapon that had the most impact on battles was actually arquebuses. So I don't think the marine and army analogy is that suited
@@dongf2618 the Chinese did actually have arquebuses they just didn't send them to korea. Chinese Calvary would have been more effective in the earlier part of the war when the Japanese were still in southern Korea, but they joined the war later when the war was in mountainous north.
@Jake4595 Both the Chinese army and the Japanese army have their own strengths. The advantages of the Chinese army are stronger armor, heavy artillery and cavalry; The advantages of the Japanese army are fire rope gun, samurai sword and mountain warfare
But it was the southern light infantry of Cantonese and Hakka troops that really crush the samurai in hand to hand combat.
Armed with long chinese saber and rattan shield which is a remedy against japanese arquebus. Once u release fire and none penetrate, the samurai were death meat reloading while southern light infantry rush in ferociously with sword and pike.
Northern cavalry were best against mongol and some turkic in the western front. Tats all.
You gave a very accurate explanation of Korean weapons in general, but a few things were wrong. Koreans didn't use Dangpa very much. They mainly used the Dangpa as a portable launcher for shooting Singijeon. The most commonly used weapons in the early Joseon Dynasty were the bow, axe, mace, and polearm.
And the low rank soldiers of the Joseon Army mainly wore breastplates.
@6:02, that is the portray of the Ming Emperor at the time of Imjin War. The picture shows his returning to Beijing from outside. You can see there are dragons embroidered on his armor.
Tridents were often used by men behind the first line of soldiers, a defensive weapon to protect the first line from overhead attacks.
I have played the shogun 2 total war mod about this war made by Korean modder, the units attribute is like Chinese < Japanese
The Ming were incredibly competent! It’s sad that so many sources down play their involvement. Without them Korea very likely would’ve been taken!
Hi, may I ask the mod name? Since I really admired the Toyotomi era as well, especially the fact where the Shogun gathered one of the most veteran armies in Japanese history to launch the invasion. And also it would be really enjoyable to see my Samurai fighting other kinds of armies :3
@@imitradisv the mods called morning sun
@@shawnzhou1255 Thanks!
Since the ancient times to the medieval time. In term of weapon technology except for fire arms, the Chinese were known for their spears. The Japanese, the sword. The Koreans the bow and arrows.
What's funny is that in China there are gyms that still teaches spear arts and in Japan, there's Kendo which is dominated by Japanese (obviously) and in Olympics, a branch of archery is dominated by the Koreans for 40 years and the committee had to change the rule because Koreans were getting all gold silver and bronze 😅 it's interesting how those skills still prevail in those 3 countries 😊
Nah, it's normal things to Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines too
What is the music from the joseon chapter
You are doing a wonderful respectful series. Great job 👏
Thank you very much!
During the Muromachi period in Japan, Japanese swords made their way to China and then to Korea. Korea did not have a sword that could cut like a Japanese sword, so it was a Chinese straight sword, but Korea somehow made something that resembled a Japanese sword, but the casting technology was not available in Korea, so the swords that were made looked exactly the same. As for the contents, they could only make items that were far inferior to Japanese swords. (something like a large knife)
During the Edo period, when a shogun was replaced, a Korean mission came to Edo to celebrate, and at that time the shogun gave the mission 500 Japanese swords as a souvenir. This was an extremely valuable item for Joseon, and high-ranking officials fought for it.
In other words, things like Korean Japanese swords are imitations and have no value.
Korean curved sword that are similar to japanese katana design were alrdy in used during the goryeo period. Just like curved chinese saber were alrdy in used during the Song dynasty.
The design of korean sword were similar due to cultural exchange but korean sword were always an inch shorter that katana and esp the muromachi era as this era katana were the longest. Chinese encounter wokou during the early 1400-1450 mentioned japanese sword were long and sliced thru armour ferociously. However, korean didnt really bother as their main weapon were bow and arrows. While chinese saber were always independently developed. With slighly curved and gradually broader towards the tip for armour chopping.
@@JOHN-w1i7u
"조선의 무기 : 왜검(倭劒)과 왜장창(倭長槍)":
조선에는 많은 무기가 있었습니다. 물론 모든 무기가 조선에서 나온 무기는 아니였습니다.
조선에는 조선의 무기 뿐만 아니라 일본과 중국에서 전래된 무기가 아주 많이 있었습니다.
현재는 일본도(日本刀)라고 불리는 왜검(倭劒)도 전래된 무기 중의 하나였습니다.
조선시대에 이르러서는 왜인들이 왜검을 진상하기도 했으며, 왜인이 조선인으로 귀화하여 조선에서 왜검을 제작하거나, 조선인이 왜국에서 왜검제작방법을 배워오기도 했습니다.
허나 일본에 조총이 도입되기 이전까지는 조선이 원거리에서 왜구를 제압하는 것이 가능했습니다.
그래서 단병기는 찬밥신세를 면하지 못했고, 왜검도 피해갈 수는 없었습니다.
임진왜란이 발생하고, 왜군은 조총사격으로 조선군을 놀라게 합니다. 그리고 창과 칼을 들고 돌 격하여 조선군은 싸울 때마다 패배하게 됩니다. 이때부터 조선의 조정에서는 일본으로부터 도검 제작기술과 검술을 익히기 위해 노력하게 됩니다.
그러나 임진왜란이 끝나고도 조선군은 길이가 짧은 환도와 같은 칼을 선호했습니다.
조선의 환도에 비해 길이가 길었던 왜검은 당연히 병사들이 좋아하지 않았습니다. 하지만 후기조선의 환도에는 일본도가 많은 영향을 주었습니다.
弯刀是草原游牧民族最先使用的,日本刀相当巨大,双手使用,适合步战,中国刀通常比较小,单手使用,方便骑兵战斗。
@@龙光-u7g
原来如此啊 ...
喜欢《三国演义》的人都知道,有名的武将,用的兵器也很有名.
例如关羽和张飞的青龙偃月刀 (又名冷焰锯) 和丈八蛇矛.
这是一个编造的故事.😓
@@dandylion3783 只要不是白痴,谁都知道三国演义是小说
Great video!
Thank you very much! I'm definitely thinking of doing more Imjin War specials in the future
@@JapanatWar Imjin War nowdays has my most interests out of all possible history topics
@@Samurai-ub6ew it’s definitely very very interesting, and pretty misunderstood as well!
Nice work, I've got my eyes fixed on the number of subscribers, you really deserve a bigger crowd!
Thank you very much for the kind words! Definitely trying to push those numbers, I have huge plans!
Fang Tiang Ji "Side Heaven Spear", a spear that is often associated with the Three Kingdom warrior Lu bo, a great warrior but also a treacherous man riding on a mighty horse called Red hare said to be a descendant from the Bactrian horses.
I always wondered why the Ming didn't use European style of Arquebuses. I recall the Mings did use alot of guns during the war with the Manchurians
Found you from the shogunate debate and after seeing this as well, you got another subscriber. Arigato stefan san
Thank you so much!
@@JapanatWar also, I really appreciate shogunate but your Japanese pronunciation is much greater than his lol. I grew up in Hawaii so know a thing or two
@@Infinitebrandon really? I still think I have a lot to work on with pronunciation lol
@@JapanatWar lol, we should always try to be more perfect but yes: you don't pronounce the last vowel like I've always learned. You sound more natural and conversational than shogunate and that's why I didn't subscribe to him for weeks; because of his voice and pronunciation lol. but i couldn't deny his content and visuals were awesome.
Speaking of which, I dig all your videos so far so I'd love to help if I can. There's a girl named lucidity who has the UA-cam channel JH4U. She lived and studied in Japan for years and does nice historical videos too. The best thing is her voice, very beautiful.
She told me she's too shy to reach out for a collaboration because her channel is small. if you contacted her, I'm sure she'd be excited and you could help each other immensely.
Also, you know more about Korea than any other UA-camr ive seen so you're a godsend. All I knew was they were possibly the best navy ever so thanks again so much for filling me in. I wish you all the best.
When you read Asian names in English, stick to the fundamentals; 'A' as in ah, 'O' as in go, and 'I' as in bin.
In the movie "Fortress" .The Joseon army was shown wearing armor and it was verified based on historical
Artifacts. Joseon army wears armor all the time but due to poverty and corruption of the officials, Most of the joseon soldiers provide their own armor.
During the imjin war ,Joseon soldiers wear armor but not all because they are not fully prepared.
Fortress depicted like 30-40 years after imjin war. Where they were much prepared at that time for invaders.
In fact Japanese govt did write letter to Joseon to provide military assistance, but the nightmare of japanese samurai is still fresh and they were hoping Ming would help instead. Lol. But in the end. They are on their own.
3:59 it name in korea '왜검', it is weapon in joseon It originated from the Japanese who defected to the imjin war
And in the war at that time, warships were so important that their fate was divided in the naval battle, and it is regrettable that they were left out.
For your information, I just used a translator because I am not good at English. Therefore, it is clear that grammar can be wrong.
It was a pleasant video.
세종대왕 당시에 일본에 건너가 카타나 만드는 법을 배워온 사람이 있었음
카타나를 만들어 바치자 세종대왕이 상을 내렸다고 조선왕조 실록에 기록되어 있음
이순신 장군의 칼도 일본에서 카타나 만드는 법을 배운 조선인이 만들었음
@@부엉이형-r8t 일본에 납치됐던 도공이 만든걸로 기억하는데
you deserve so many more subs lol
I appreciate that! Working on getting a new camera so I can up the quality of my videos!
So nice to know about Korean history felt like I'm in joseon
the armor scales on the ming armour looks really cool
Great video! Very interesting to see the different styles of armor and weapons used by three different cultures during the war.
Thank you!
What if…
Nobunaga invades Korea during his lifetime? Would the outcome be the same as the one that Hideyoshi got during his glorious yet reckless campaign or will he somehow be successful in the conquest of Korea?
That’s actually hard to say. I think that’s a great contender for a special episode in the future!
Very interesting video! In the relatively few depictions I've seen of the Imjin War (whether movies or just drawings), you could expect to see a reasonable amount of heavily armored samurai on the Japanese side. I'm not saying they weren't there, I'm sure there were, but it's still interesting that most of the Japanese in this particular war weren't actually that heavily armored. Your point that there wasn't enough infrastructure available to repair damaged armor makes sense, considering the Japanese were invading and fighting in another country, and most of the war the Japanese saw during their feudal period was on their own soil (and against each other).
Makes sense that a lot of the Koreans weren't heavily armored either. If I remember correctly (could be wrong), Korea enjoyed a long period of peace before the invasions started, so they were pretty ill-prepared, at least at first.
Exactly! Northern Koreans would actually have heavier armour when compared to the southern armies as they would often come in conflict with Jurchens (Manchurian) on their border.
Death numbers in this war are also a very complicated subject. Some of the battle counts make no sense, and don’t add up. Plus actual deaths from sickness are unreliable or even nonexistent!
True, however there are some Korean infantry that were decently armored and that would be the naval marines as Korean did have a dedicated navy to protect the Korean coast from pirate attacks and the naval base garrison
@@nathanjangs Yeah, I did some further research recently, and I think from the looks of it Korean infantry could sometimes have a kind of armor that looked like a black vest. Apparently it was some kind of paper armor?
www.deviantart.com/glimja/art/Joseon-Dynasty-Armors-625760241
@@dr_drago I see..I think the paper armor is more like light armor for Skirmisher and scout units. Also, I do know that before the imjin war, Korean military experiment on different material to be used in armor. So the paper armor is maybe a civilian clothing but slightly armored with the purpose of providing scout, messanger, and Skirmisher with adequate protection while not over bearing on them
A big reasons why they emphasize how garbage their swords are compared to the trained samurai class also is due to the heavy restrictions on sword production by the government while most existing swords amongst the infantry probably sat in armories for decades without real use. Given that up till that point the central army basically hadn't really been mobilized for almost a century, I'm guessing weapons upkeep was not high on their priority list.
Also, if I recall, military officials who paid too much attention to weapons prep during the peace often would be stopped by corrupt bureaucrats who were worried about uprisings or rivals. Corruption was always the worst enemy of the Joseon dynasty.
1:53 as far as I know, the brigandine is of Asian origin and brought to Europe by the Turkic-Mongolian invasions
3:36 one person cannot effectively use a 4 meter long spear, this requires several people or formation / phalanx
4:10 Koreans do not need to copy anything in Japan, the Japanese katana saber is a development of the Chinese single-edged weapon that the Japanese copied. Chokuto are ancient single-edged sabers of the 5th-7th centuries AD. e (reminiscent of scimitars), which in the VIII-IX century began to lengthen, which led to the appearance of the katana. In the Asuka period (538-710), with the help of Korean and Chinese blacksmiths, Japan began to produce its own iron, and by the 7th century they had mastered the technology of forging multilayer steel.
Some swords from the kofun era have the Chinese characters for "sword from kofun in Inariyama" written in the Chinese style. Japanese weapons and culture come from China and Korea.
the immediate and most direct ancestor of the katana is Varabite-no-tati, it was a short cleaver, with a total length of about 40-50 cm. It had a one-handed hilt with a small front stop, there was no developed guard yet.
Naturally, Korea was also under strong Chinese influence, so China is the most ancient, developed and wealthy state of East Asia that influenced Asians as much as the Greeks and Romans on Europeans
Thank you for talking about Korean stuff too 😊
Check out my newest series on the Japanese Civil War known as the Boshin War: ua-cam.com/video/PBn_wVXcydM/v-deo.html
1:45 I'm Korean and you didn't mispronounce it. you did a fine job.
I know it's been a while since you made this video, but do you remember the music you used for each section? I'd like to track them down. They really set the tone well! Great selection!
I just cleaned out my pc last month.. sadly I don’t remember 😞
@@JapanatWar That's alright. Thanks anyway, man! Great video.
Man, really good video. Congrats
Your way to talk is just like mine 😂😂
Lol, thank you! I hope you’ll check out my other content
@@JapanatWar for sure I will, I just subbed. Keep it up
@@matiasdelatorreoverton3612 Absolutely next week I'll be exploring the Army's plan!
Where is 편전 pyun jeon? The baby arrow also known as... this was even more critical than regular bow or gak goong 각궁 u described - this was more destructive and longer and no other country has a bow like this
Those Ming soldiers were mainly horse men from liauning province
Nope u r wrong about that, they are mostly Han Chinese from Shandong Province
@@hzc8942he is right, its called cavalry division of Liaoning. They are of course 90% chinese with small minority of Mongol and Manchu contingent.
Anyhow, it was the southern chinese of Cantonese and Hakka contingent light infantry man and marine and defeated the Japanese.
These southern troops were armed with long chinese saber, and rattan shield where japanese arquebus couldnt penetrate. And chinese saber with design of the tip slightly broader to chop into samurai armour easily.
I mean sure there were ashigaru but what about ther officers samurai? You also talked about korean officers why not japanese ones?
Yes, the handcannons were favored by northern Ming troops because it's a mace.
6:41.....1.35mm??
Ooof yeah no error
@@JapanatWar Were you talking about the diameter (17.91 mm) or the thickness (1.35 mm) of a dime ? Thanks for the effort nevertheless.
@@amatostano3936 Diameter lol I can't believe I put that
why do i see so many depictions of japanese troops in full armor ? very old depictions of the second invasion. i also saw many of this depictions on samuel hawley videos. i dont know if those drawings were made years after the war, but they are definetly old depictions. showing ming and korean troops fighting very heavy armored samurai during the second invasion
Most were. You’ll notice a lot are wearing period incorrect armour as well. It’s just romanticization.
The reality is that most of the men sent over were ashigaru, very few actual samurai, and other than the commanders most were low ranking.
It definitely can be very confusing!
@@JapanatWar thanks for claring up. one more question, how common was the use of the Kabuto ? the simpler samurai helms were just SO common in mailand japan in this period that i cantg help but ask myself how many of the ashigaru fighting in korea were wearing at least the kabuto.
@@andrewbatist6355 It varied army to army. One of the mistakes that gets made is assuming there was uniformity amongst the armies, there was some, but not perfect. Tachibana for example equipped a good number of his men with momonari.
The jingasa would've been the most common 😁
@@JapanatWar just to know that there were some momonari kabuto types on the field is cool enough. you just made my day. it seems futile but i just wanted to paint the scene in my head. becouse eventually i will be drawing japanese soldiers wearing them in these battles. so, i will depict some units under Tachibana and research more on those. thanks for the help i will be watching your full playlist on the imjin war this next week. just finished samuel hawley´s. Great job !
For Honor Developers, take note from this video.
I would be so incredibly happy for a Korean themed warrior
Nice! Really interesting that the flail was so prominant in Korea.
Agreed! I'd love to test one out one day!
You can beat shield users easily with it, I bet it was very useful fighting mongol raiders
China fielded heavy cavalry to help the korean. But it was the southern chinese lightly arm infantry that defeated the japanese.
You didnt mentioned Korean black powder weapon such as Hwacha, Grenade, Korean organgun etc......
True, I didn't been thinking not making a follow up to this video ;)
More like Chinese
@@changchadchanamdong2668 You mean Hwacha is Chinese? NO, it's Korean made.
@@KBKim-jt6uj . it is just a modified version of the original chinese ones even the grenade . It is not like the koreans invented it .
@@changchadchanamdong2668 not just modified, its upgraded. and chinese have no this kind of grenade as far as i know. Prove me if you say 'MODIFIED'.
ua-cam.com/video/8288Y3xmWaI/v-deo.html
If the original intention of the war was to walk over Korea and attack the Ming then surely the Japanese would have expected to face a heavy cavalry army. So why would the Japanese not bring heaps of pikes with them?
That would’ve been the smart move, but it seems there might’ve been issues with transporting the long weapons
Because in japanese history they didn't met a heavy cavalry like your think. they never knew what happend to their heads by long flail.
@@jsj1381 sorry I worded the statement incorrectly. I meant to say "cavalry heavy army." But on your point. You telling me the Takada's didn't use heavy cavalry? If yes, what's your definition of "heavy cavalry"?
@@relpmat Ok. There is something wrong but did u thought japanese pikes is for cavarly heavy army? Their pikes is only for enemy pikes in japanese history. Not for cavarly heavy army. they didn't experience about cavarly heavy army in korea or manchu until cross the sea
Thats why they didn't heaps pikes with their ships and became the breaked heads after then
And maybe u told me 'Takeda shinken'. not 'Takada' i think so. Actually, japanese heavy cavalry is different type with Europe or Korea,Manchu,Mongol,China. Its already same with 'Heavy Infantry' in real history
@@jsj1381 So what's your version of events during the Battle of Mikatagahara? Did the Takeda army not deploy a cavalry charge on Ieyasu?
As for Japanese did not use pikes against Cavalry. Even if that is true, surely just common sense a longer spear is better than shorter spear to deter a horse
the Korean armors looks likr the chinese Qing Dynasty armor
a mix between qing ans ming
몽골의 영향을 받은 것임
朝鲜是中国的藩属国,不单铠甲像中国,它的一切都是学习中国
@@jackyong1401 你也是jack
China being so heavily walled in makes looking into chinese armour and weapons very hard. Lots of museum stuff from china isn't accessible to interested westerners.
It’s interesting to see asian history through western perspective..
the cav was the most effective army in Korea against Japan on land since Japan never really experienced massive cavarly attacks prior to the war. The lack of skills of Japanese cavarly is also to be noted as there are records written by Korean cavarly generals who encountered Japanese cavarly fighting on foot when under attack rather than fighting on horseback like Koreas bow cavarly. However Japan eventually picked up some tactics later on as the Korean court evaluating their cavalry/anti-cavalry tactics as "not bad".
"Muyedobotongji (武芸図譜通志, 무예도보통지)" says as follows:
"Only bows and arrows have still remained in our country since ancient times.
Although our troops are provided with both swords and spears now, we do not have any methodology to learn how to use those.
Cavalrymen on horseback hold spears in their hands in arena, but (they are unable to use them because) any military methods to use those spears
have not been succeeded.
This is the reason why these weapons had been abandoned long time ago. ...
All this happened because any military exercises for using swords and spears have not been passed down in our country."
(從古所傳只有弓矢一技,至於劒槍,則徒有其器,顧無習用之法,馬上一槍雖用於試場, 而其法亦未詳備.故劒槍之 棄器久矣.・・・ 皆由於習法之不傳故也)
to be frank I do not think the Joseon cavalry did good against the Japanese army at all as seen in the Battle of Chongju. The Ming cavalry however was very effective because they were very experienced and led by a good general like Li Rusong. To understand what Im saying see the Battle of Byeokjegwan where a much smaller Ming army held itself against the Japanese after pursuing too deep off Hanseong. I do not think the Ming would achieve this without their cavalry repeatedly beating off Japanese attacks and decimating parts of the Japanese corps
Amzing , mate !
Wow what a amazing video, that was in opposite from what I thought
Thank you! What would your expectations be before the video?
@@JapanatWar I expected fancy and exaggerating samurai armors besides I didn’t expect Chinese armors was that beautiful.
@@lucaswang8485 I've grown very found of Ming armour. I know a place where you can buy reproductions if you're ever interested
出警入蹕圖表現的是明朝京軍,什至是皇帝近衛隊的形象,平番得勝圖,反而是明朝北方邊軍的形象,同時亦是明朝派出朝鮮支援朝鮮王國的北軍形象。
The painting that you used is "出警入蹕圖" which showing the Ming Dynasty Beijing Central army, and even they are Emperor's guards (錦衣衛), for the image of the Ming Dynasty's northern frontier army, use painting "平番得勝圖" would be better, it is shown the image of the Ming Dynasty's northern army who sent North Korea to support the Korean kingdom. .
Bro you barely grazed the Korean weaponry, including the cannons, rocket propelled arrows, double edged swords, and multiple polearms. Only the waegum was Japanese inspired while several others were domesrically produced.
I might revisit this in the future, I’m sure I missed some. Definitely could’ve covered the cannons more. But this is only supposed to be a video on the most common!
its koriu or kaeriu no the word wath see
For once, a youtuber who doesn't put Japanese and their "samurai" armies in a ridiculously unfounded High pedestal over their enemies in the Imjin war.
changshendajia is wrong, it is changshan zajia,
I was curious can you do a video of Jesus in Japan 😊
Sad how in Goguryeo (ancient Korean kingdom) the soldier had high quality armor with neck protection and had two horns on their helmet, they even armored their horse and it is said that they had their armors and weapons at their own home (Balhae as well) but during Joseon they didn't even wore a chest plate 😢
Gorguyeo is a warlike kingdom and the korean are diff from the korean of Joseon era. Joseon era emphasize on Confucianism therefore they deemed warlike is barbaric and sword is for the uneducated. They prefer bow and arrow as it deemed gentlemen. Just like straight sword or curved slender sword were considered civilised in china but it wont be used in battle. Most saber used on the battlefield are broader and longer.
if China sword name: Miao dao
if japan sword name: katana
if Korean Sword name: gumdo
it's all almost the same shape
1. The Fangtian Halberd is a ceremonial weapon, not a practical weapon.
2. The 腰刀waist sword developed from the Khitan, Jin and Mongolian sabers of the Yuan Dynasty. Both the Ming and Qing Dynasties inherited part of the military tradition of the Yuan Dynasty. The most obvious are the sabers and helmets、armors.
3. 布面甲Cloth armor is a primitive type of plate armor. The cut is looser than European plate armor to accommodate soldiers of various sizes. The armor pieces are smaller than European plate armor.The first people to use cloth armor in East Asia were the Mongols of the Yuan Dynasty. The earliest physical objects are still in Japan and are the equipment of the Mongolian army during the Yuan-Japanese War.
4. The matchlock gun was a weapon equipped by China, Japan and South Korea at that time. The Chinese called it "鳥銃" and the Japanese called it "鐵炮". Of course, the quality of Japanese matchlocks at that time was better.
5. 大將軍炮The general cannon was actually a naval gun fished out from a Portuguese shipwreck. Later, Portuguese craftsmen in Macau were hired to imitate it.
6. The Japanese bow is indeed very powerful. Its original design purpose is actually the same as that of the Kaiyuan bow and the Manchu bow. It is used to shoot long and heavy arrows at close range. Like a large caliber pistol designed to fire subsonic rounds.
During the imjin war, the Japanese had suffered a lot higher casualties against a smaller number of Chinese forces. Some people say it’s because of better cavalry and artillery + more experience in combined arms warfare. What’s your take?
P.S I got this from the great Ming blog
Im personally suspect on most casualty numbers in this war, I get into that reason in my episode on the Battle of Pyongyang!
BUUUTTT We also have to remember this isn't Samurai cavalrymen vs Ming Elite cavalry this is Ming Elite cavalry vs ashigaru, and even then the circumstances have to be considered.
@@JapanatWar cool can’t wait! Great video
@@matthewct8167 Its actually up already if you wanted to go see it :D
The other metatron
I’m unaware of Metatron going over tanks, or continuous coverage of a war 🤔😆
@@JapanatWar oh he might lol
The Japanese katana wasn't very good at that time, so...
No matter how good a craftsman is, the finished katana breaks easily when used in practice.
The Korean Hwando was stronger than the Japanese sword, and if you look at the actual war history books, there are many cases where the Japanese katana was broken because of the Hwando.
Katana didn't even come from Japan, it already existed in China and Korea. Mainly, China and Korea focused on stabbing rather than cutting, so they used a lot of double-edged swords. In Japan, it was mainly about cutting, so only a single-edged sword was used.
Lol okay. Except it was the chokuto that came from Chinese swords. Katana came from Tachi after their experience with Mongols.
There's also several instances of Ming and Joseon commanders praising the sharpness of the katana. Which is why blades were a significant export of the Japanese isles.
The statement that a katana isn't good no matter the craftsmanship tell me you know nothing about smithing.
@@JapanatWar
Exactly. "The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)," for instance, says as follows:
・"Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those, are extremely sharp.
Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly.
Indeed, each arm is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan." (15 May, 1487)
・"More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than a child's toy in comparison with Japanese swords.
Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords." (17 June, 1593)
Likewise, "Muyedobotongji: Wae Gum (武藝圖譜通志 倭劍)" says,
"According to Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀), the Japanese make swords of all lengths and sizes.
Every Japanese soldier wears/carries (佩刀) a long sword.
A small knife attached to the long sword is used for various purposes. ...
Japanese swords are so strong and sharp. Therefore, even Chinese sword are no match for those Japanese ones." (茅元儀曰、日本刀大小長短不同、每人有一長刀、謂之佩刀
上又挿一小刀、以便雑用 (中略) 刀極剛利中国不及)
Further, Yi Ik (李瀷)'s "Seonghosaseol (星湖僿說, 성호사설)" says like this:
"Although we have iron and furnaces of our own, both our swords and mirrors are no match for the wisdom of WA to make those ones.
All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones."
@@lupimali9504 ^ This
lucky-Man
According to Lin Boyuan (林伯原), prior to the times of Jiajing (嘉靖帝, emperor of the Ming dynasty), Japanese swords were imported into China as trading goods, tributes or complimentary gifts on occasion.
Lin Boyuan continues to argue as follows:
"Since the year of Jiajing 31 (A.D.1552), the massive Japanese invasion of the southeast coast of China made Chinese people notice the advantage of Japanese swordplay.
Meanwhile, Chinese army and civilians who loved Chinese wushu needed better sword skills. Therefore, Japanese swordplay became rapidly known and absorbed by them and spread among the folk people.
At that time, some members of the Chinese army were equipped with Japanese long swords; the warriors used cane shields, and the archers and the cavalry were equipped with Japanese waist broadswords."
Thus, people in China had a quite fascination for Japanese swords. Previously, Tang Shunzhi (唐順之) got captivated by Japanese sword, and went so fa as to make "Ode to the Japanese Sword (日本刀歌)."
The earliest, among others, is said to go back to Ouyyng Xiu (欧陽脩), who composed a poetry under the title of "The Song of the Japanese Sword" as well.
In fact, around this time, influenced by the shape of Japanese sword, China began to emulate those and made Chang Dao (長刀), which was subsequently called "Miao Dao (苗刀)."
(just copy and paste the following letters, and then google it yourself: ー> Chang Dao (長刀) Great Ming Military)
Why, then, wouldn't have these people of China acquired Korean swords (hwando or something) if those ones had been that excellent?
Why didn't they pay particular attention to any Korean swords those days?
The answer is so simple. Do you get what I say here?
@@JapanatWar imjin war korea do-50~60cm...
The Japanese were barbarous.
Japan's historical distortion, historical revisionism, is too absurd
Germany reflects on itself
Germany teaches history accurately
The Japanese should emulate Germany
Come to Korea and study
There is a lot of historical evidence
Every country has a dark history. That's one thing. Whether they are ashamed and regret the wrong doings in the past and not cover it up is another
the Asian Holocaust
the Asian Nazis
Japan should reflect on itself
Germany knows how to reflect on itself, but Japan doesn't
There is a lot of historical evidence in Korea
It's an accurate history
At that time, Japan was a serious, twisted evil empire
As soon as industrialization succeeded, it invaded the neighboring country
I must say that American soldier was necessary and it saved at least 20x more lives considering that Imperial Japan never wanted to stop doing Asian holocaust.
Thank the American soldier for stopping the Asian Nazis
The adults told me a lot of stories
But Japan denies history
You have to reflect history correctly to get along well in the future
For future generations, too
Koreans from Gaya took the technology to japan to make the swords…. The Japanese royals have korean dna Lolol
You skipped much of gunpowder weapons of Joseon. The war heavily involved firearms and cannons.
This video is meant to be about the most common. However I’ll admit I could’ve covered the cannons used
@@JapanatWar Handcannon was a common weapon for Joseon army. Also delayed fuse bombs, mortars, and larger cannons with fin stabilized projectile, multi cannon carts, etc
@@hishot1078 These were not used as much as you think. Either way Im sorry you didn't enjoy my video
@@JapanatWar i am enjoying the contents
The shin gi jeon was korean...
Hwando actually inspired from mongol cavalry sword. Katana does.
Mongol sword->hwando->katana
This is the fact. Before we fought mongol, we used straight sword called hwandudaedo.
Mongol sword->hwando->katana?
katana has existed since before the war between Mongolia and Korea.
@@avicii6379 korean logic
tang sword->yanling,katana,hwando
@@jameschern2013 LOL yeah china created thd WORLD of course
Chinese claims are questionable due to lack of survived evidence. There are few Ming weapons survived in Japan and Korea as Japanese took some of them back to Japan and Koreans dug up some lost weapons still left in Korea. I went to both Japan and Korea war history museums, I have never seen any Chinese helmets or body armors but saw their long dao sword used from horse back.
Ignorant poor thing, you've never been to any museum in China have you?
@@zedz4397 tbf how much fake shit china is making up now, can't trust anything at this point
@@thomasblanc3457 blablabla...
@@thomasblanc3457 lol... that burn... haha. Its really sad that many of the historic recordings were destroyed by the Chinese themselves during Mao's time. So now they have to depend on their neighbors for historical facts. I guess thats why they call dips on anything they find cool and say it's their Culture.
@@thomasblanc3457 Please stop this nonsense of yours, no one in history would smear ancient china like you do like the modern western media. Obviously the records of china, the center of east asian culture, are undoubtedly the most convincing, and many of them are only available in china. Many yankees are as ignorant and confident as you are, and that's the problem with our society. There is also someone who says that only records are found outside of china, I don't know what historical inventor he heard that claim from, japan and korea do occasionally make such statements, however history buffs know it's only because they want to deny the connection between modern and ancient china, just like rome empire, even if some of the ruins were destroyed, such centers of civilization would still have a history far beyond that of these peripheral regions.
1: 33에 나오는 조선병사의 갑옷은 철로 만들어 졌다 부산에서 지하철 공사할때 발견됌
조선의 귀족 류성용의 갑주는 저런 모양인데 헬멧은 저런 모양이 아니고 바디의 갑옷은 가죽으로 되어 있었다
두정갑을 반드시 장교나 귀족이 입었던것도 아닌것 같고 귀족도 찰갑의 갑옷을 입었던것 같다
그냥 개인 취향이나 경제력의 차이 에서 나온거지 귀족이라고 반드시 두정갑을 입었던게 아니다
두정갑은 몽골침략때 부터 있었지만 임진왜란 당시 에는 크게 유행하지 않다가 병자호란 만주족의 갑옷에서'
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