Drum Roasters vs Fluid Bed Roasters - what's your take on it? Do you have a preference, or you are still learning (like us)? ⚠️ Typhoon Coffee is a sponsor of European Coffee Trip. This video is a paid partnership! More information about their roasters: typhoon.coffee Timestamps: 1:06 Fluid Bed Coffee Roasting Technology Explained 2:16 Drum Roasters vs Fluid Bed Roasters 2:46 Details of Typhoon Roaster 6:08 Hybrid Typhoon Roasters 6:44 History & Future of Typhoon Roasters
Can't wait to get my 2,5kg roaster in the next two weeks here in Romania. That's going to be my first roaster, as I will open my coffee roastery business this year. Will let you guys know how much I like it!
@@whoami724y The guys from Typhoon also have courses so you can learn from them on their roasters. A very good book is Crafting the roast by E.C Irving and also an amazing one is The coffee roaster's companion by Scott Rao. You should try open a roastery business if you really like it.
@@cri938 Thanks for the book references! I've only read a few articles online but i still haven't found the golden spot for roasting guidelines and i wanted to learn how to read the graph like on the more expensive roaster 😅
Interesting I wish you explained more on drum vs fluid bed, and how to control the variables on this machine. And since it is a new school in roasting is it different to learn roasting on it compared to the traditional or does it follow the same rules?
Thanks for the comment. I guess that is too specific and over the scope of this video. Check out their YT channel where they have more videos that cover specifics of the technology.
In my opinion, with fluid bed you can not obtain many physical chemical reactions at the crust of the bean that will show in the cup, it is like to compare a good meat steak cooked at an oven vs doing it so on a grill or a pan. Which one you like the most? (oven = Fluidyzed bed / Grill or pan = Traditional drum) In most world coffee competitions people use traditional drum roasting, why, because with the physical reactions at the exterior of the bean make that the aromathics hold inside if the roasted bean longer and then show up at the cup. In my experience with fluid bed you don´t seal the exterior of the bean and loose many of the nice aromathics within the specialty coffees, actually it is what makes them interesting. But also, fluid bed has being arround for several years, and it is mostly used in huge machines dedicated to standard grade coffee, specially because they need to get rid of many undesirable flavors (defects) by volatilizing them , and also because it is a way of very fast roasting, making the process efficient. At the end of the day, the best coffee is the one you enjoy the most!! It would be nice to ask world barista champions which method do they like the most.
@@rkaratimus1 yes, a small size machine with high thermal conductivity. So, at the end of the day it works similar to tradicional drum roasters. Try doing that with a big fluid bed machine
The fluid bed roasts at 170C? How? I normally drop my coffee at a bean temp of about 207 to 211C, so that makes no sense. Coffee first crack is above 180.
Well I've got first crack sometimes even at 170C so it is not that weird. Much more confusing is the claim of drum roaster roasting at 380C, that seems a bit too much
I've been following this company for a while to see what happens. Definitely not a new technology but they have an interesting take on it. Can you recommend any good roasters that use the Typhoon? Thanks
Hey, first, nice video. I would like to ask what u guys think of the Timemore C2. I am now entering in the world of coffee and trying to get some equipment but dont have a lot of budget so i was looking for a cheap first hand grinder and found the Timemore C2 really cheap at aliexpress (for under 50€). Would like to eat some opinions
I was falling in love with the typhoon roaster, but seeing this video tells me it is a Russian product 😢😢 Then I will not allow my self to invest in it….
Well, since he obviously has no idea how a drum roaster works I would not take the things he said about his roaster too seriously. Sounds like he is comparing this roaster to a drum over open fire...
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Drum Roasters vs Fluid Bed Roasters - what's your take on it? Do you have a preference, or you are still learning (like us)?
⚠️ Typhoon Coffee is a sponsor of European Coffee Trip. This video is a paid partnership! More information about their roasters: typhoon.coffee
Timestamps:
1:06 Fluid Bed Coffee Roasting Technology Explained
2:16 Drum Roasters vs Fluid Bed Roasters
2:46 Details of Typhoon Roaster
6:08 Hybrid Typhoon Roasters
6:44 History & Future of Typhoon Roasters
Intresting
Can't wait to get my 2,5kg roaster in the next two weeks here in Romania. That's going to be my first roaster, as I will open my coffee roastery business this year. Will let you guys know how much I like it!
Good luck with the roasting business! Check out our friends from Artisan Green Coffee in Romania - they have some amazing green coffee on the list.
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip Thanks! Yep, I know them. Will get some nice coffees from them for sure :)
where do you learn roasting? any books or did you take any course? i want to try and open up roastery business too someday
@@whoami724y The guys from Typhoon also have courses so you can learn from them on their roasters. A very good book is Crafting the roast by E.C Irving and also an amazing one is The coffee roaster's companion by Scott Rao. You should try open a roastery business if you really like it.
@@cri938 Thanks for the book references! I've only read a few articles online but i still haven't found the golden spot for roasting guidelines and i wanted to learn how to read the graph like on the more expensive roaster 😅
That guy is a giant.
No, the roaster is pocket sized 😅
I would love to see a future video review of the taste comparisons with drum v. fluid bed roasting with the same beans.
Good idea. We will ask guys at Typhoon Coffee if they can get these for us.
I’m planning to open a coffee roastery and my boss mentioned this machine. Sufficed to say, I want this machine.
Interesting I wish you explained more on drum vs fluid bed, and how to control the variables on this machine. And since it is a new school in roasting is it different to learn roasting on it compared to the traditional or does it follow the same rules?
Thanks for the comment. I guess that is too specific and over the scope of this video. Check out their YT channel where they have more videos that cover specifics of the technology.
Yeah from an engineering and physics perspective I had wished the tall fellow would have elaborated
It reminds me of my college days when I studied fluidized bed dryer in chemical engineering operation lab 😃
Interesting design 👍
fascinating! would be so cool to see in person.
Good thing is that cafe/showroom is open for public so you can see it (if you visit Prague) ☕️🙌
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip sighs because lives in Perth, Western Australia 😅
Please come to Vancouver and educate these coffee shops!
what is the price range for such machines, I don't want to send a quote but just to know. Thanks for the great video.
Wow I want a roaster like that! And oh, how tall is that guy, he made Aleš look small😁
Haha, I am small so I am used to that feeling but it’s true that Daniil is very tall.
Great video. Interestingly, I just roasted some Ethiopia Guji in my Whirley Pop the other day, and it is delicious.
I am following company long time ,but can't get some roasted samples to decide is this machine can bring out good cup of coffee.
The machine looks super beautiful man 🔥🔥🔥
I think that at the start of 2024 Doubleshot coffee roastery transitioned to a fluid bed roaster!
In my opinion, with fluid bed you can not obtain many physical chemical reactions at the crust of the bean that will show in the cup, it is like to compare a good meat steak cooked at an oven vs doing it so on a grill or a pan. Which one you like the most? (oven = Fluidyzed bed / Grill or pan = Traditional drum)
In most world coffee competitions people use traditional drum roasting, why, because with the physical reactions at the exterior of the bean make that the aromathics hold inside if the roasted bean longer and then show up at the cup. In my experience with fluid bed you don´t seal the exterior of the bean and loose many of the nice aromathics within the specialty coffees, actually it is what makes them interesting. But also, fluid bed has being arround for several years, and it is mostly used in huge machines dedicated to standard grade coffee, specially because they need to get rid of many undesirable flavors (defects) by volatilizing them , and also because it is a way of very fast roasting, making the process efficient. At the end of the day, the best coffee is the one you enjoy the most!! It would be nice to ask world barista champions which method do they like the most.
The latest world Barista Champ used a hybrid fluid bed roaster to roast his coffee.
Patrick Rolf used Ikawa
@@rkaratimus1 yes, a small size machine with high thermal conductivity. So, at the end of the day it works similar to tradicional drum roasters. Try doing that with a big fluid bed machine
How much is that particular model of Typhoon Roaster?
How tall is that Typhoon guy? 2,13m?
Thats a beautiful looking roaster. Curious about what the price will end up being for the 2.5 / 5 kg.
The fluid bed roasts at 170C? How? I normally drop my coffee at a bean temp of about 207 to 211C, so that makes no sense. Coffee first crack is above 180.
Well I've got first crack sometimes even at 170C so it is not that weird. Much more confusing is the claim of drum roaster roasting at 380C, that seems a bit too much
I want go Typhoon coffee
Roasting at a lower temperature makes a lot of sense
how much do you sell the roaster ?
Love coffee
I've been following this company for a while to see what happens. Definitely not a new technology but they have an interesting take on it. Can you recommend any good roasters that use the Typhoon? Thanks
what's the cost of 5kg roaster anyone?
Hey, first, nice video.
I would like to ask what u guys think of the Timemore C2. I am now entering in the world of coffee and trying to get some equipment but dont have a lot of budget so i was looking for a cheap first hand grinder and found the Timemore C2 really cheap at aliexpress (for under 50€). Would like to eat some opinions
Go for it bro. Been using for almost 2 months. way better than those other cheap manual burr grinders. Better than hario burr grinder i would say.
I think it’s also called Air Roasted Coffee. It’s been for a longggggg time.
I wish there is home version
They are working on the 1kg model but still it will be primarily a commercial coffee roaster (higher price point).
A similar product is the Ikawa roaster made in the UK. I have the home roaster which is good for 50-60g at a time
@@Richard-HiFiMan True, we also have IKAWA (Pro model) in the office, made a video about too: ua-cam.com/video/dpHJGzz6Gwc/v-deo.html
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That's cool
And that guy's crazy tall. I want to know what kind of milk he drinks 😂
Haha
Sir any jobs are roaster
Iam indian work in saudi arabia 6years roaster work
Diria que el tipo es español por como habla ingles
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Does anyone remember "convection air" ovens? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convection_oven
I was falling in love with the typhoon roaster, but seeing this video tells me it is a Russian product 😢😢
Then I will not allow my self to invest in it….
So it's not much different from a Fresh Roast 540 or even a popcorn air popper.
I was looking for this comment. Why don’t more recognize this?
It is really just a Fresh Roast on steroids.@@DaveGme w
wow that guy is tall
Wait... how tall is Ales?
Exactly! He is very tall and Ales is quite small 😅
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Well, since he obviously has no idea how a drum roaster works I would not take the things he said about his roaster too seriously. Sounds like he is comparing this roaster to a drum over open fire...
Scott rao to review or comment
The fluid bed roaster was first created by Michael Sivetz in 1976. This is far from new or innovative.
The man is tall
Isn't air technically a fluid? As such, it is a "fluid bed?" Sorry, I did not understand all that he said!
hi european coffee trip hope you send me samples of typhoon coffee
my name is michael reyes im a la marzocco technician in manila
thank you for the wonderful youtube video more power:)
Yardstick Coffee
Drum Roaster at 380°C ? Sounds like BS.
temperature under the iron drum