You know, when you learn of Kakine's history of being unable to protect those around him, it puts the anger that he expressed when Accelerator protected the civilians in their OT15 fight into a whole new perspective. Great vid Aeon!
Totally underrated character. Kamachi needs to give him some love. I really think there would and should be a Dark matter arc which Beetle fight original Kakine it would a good point to explore his ability, character and back story since beetle is supposed to be the good side of him.
If Kakine does somehow return in GT, I would love to see him find out that Touma is Aleister true #1 (Or I should say #0 in this case) and go after him. I feel Touma and Kakine's clash could be very interesting as not only is Touma is everything Kakine dreams of becoming despite only being a Level 0 but both have another version of themselves in the form of KnT and Beetle 05. Extra points if Kakine tries to get revange at Othinus, which will really piss Touma off.
I've always seen Kakine as a failed Accelerator. Kakine when saying to Accelerator that they are the same he is right, but not in the way he thinks. They both have suffered a lot and have tragic lives, the difference is that Accelerator after his failure he begins to improve himself, becomes a better person and goes to a path of redemption while Kakine got broken by his failures and instead of seeing that he himself needs to get better he begins to see others as the problem and tries to defeat Accelerator thinking that it will solve his problems and he will be able to negotiate with Aleister, I don't see him as evil despite that what he is doing is bad, I see him as desperate man that tries to defeat Accelerator in a desperate attempt to get his well deserved justice, but as we know from Accelerator's life, even if Kakine defeats and kills him he still technically loses because he has no idea how being #1 truly is.It kinda of reminds me of the myth of Icarus, just like how Icarus tried to reach the sun using his wax wings, Kakine tries to reach #1 using his own wings, but their arrogance ends up being their downfall, Icarus has his wings melted by the sun just like how kakine's wings get overwhelmed by Accelerator's black wingsm Slight gt spoilers I'm quite curious what the future of his character will bring brcause I'm sure he will definitely come back and it's only a matter of when (and I am also very curious what his reaction will be when he learns Accelerator is the actual board chairman of AC)
"The Imagine Breaker and the Accelerator stared at the golden-white ball in front of them. They managed to rescue Last Order from a group of magicians that wanted to use her for their ritual. And apparently, Last Order was not the only one they wanted. Before that, they somehow managed to recover the brain of Kakine Teitoku, the no. 2 Level 5, Dark Matter. From what they learned from the last magician they interrogated they were to use both the Misaka Network and Dark Matter's abilities to create a perfect being, incapable of harm and pain, and use it to subjugate Academy City for their "crimes against nature". Accelerator walked into the room. "Hero, take Last Order and get outta here. I've business to settle with this extra." Kamijou knew not to anger the albino despite his edge against him, so he left the room, carrying the sleeping girl as he left. Accelerator walked towards the ball, his choker activated from the start. He sneered. "Hnngh, it seems you just look more pathetic everytime I see you." The ball didn't stir. Instead it sat there doing nothing. "What? No response? I thought you wanted me dead all along," Accelerator said sardonically. Then the ball rippled. Accelerator immediately kept his guard up. Then to his surprise, the ball opened up, exposing the brain underneath. "What the," Accelerator was confused. "What the fuck are you planning?" His answer came when Dark Matter appeared from the ball, forming kanji which only read: 'End it. I don't care anymore. Please. *Just end it.* ' "
I do not think that Kakine wants admiration from others in trying to be #1. In fact, we can see it in Dark Matter. While Kakine originally wanted to beat Accelerator, he ditches that plan in order to find the Tweezers. Kakine didn't care about being #1, but what he did care about was finding a way to strike a deal with Aleister. Its also not that he's trying to increase his status in the world, he's trying to rid himself of shackles. Its even in his slogan "The normal rules don't apply to me", he wants to deal with Aleister so that he won't be under the city anymore and thus, acquiring freedom from the rules of the city. Ringo's death was confirmed to have been deliberately caused by someone else, and right when Kakine was starting to get attached to her. This preceded events where Kakine actually did succeed in saving her, completely contradicting his previous philosophy. That they had to kill her leads me to believe that someone is (or was) deliberately shaping him into being like this. Kakine isn't seeking admiration from others, he's seeking liberation in order to truly do the things he wants to do, even if at the expense of others. Kakine having an inferiority complex is also doubtful. Accelerator was able to prevent casualties in a battle between 2 Level 5s, and the highest ranking ones at that. He had managed to do what Kakine couldn't when both were in the same position, and he was able to protect the things he cared about even against elements that try to take it away. Ultimately, his lash out against Yomikawa was driven by his frustration and refusal to accept that someone succeeded in the same place he failed. You could attribute this to denial, where Kakine refused to accept that someone succeeded where he couldn't, especially someone "just like him". You could also say its a form of self loathing as well, in that he sees himself as irredeemable and people just like him shouldn't be capable of happiness.
So glad you covered Kakinie's character. I grew to like him more and more as I got into Index. I'm surprised you didn't mention Beetle 05 fighting alongside Touma in the Agitate Halation. One of my fav fights of the series, would love to see it animated. But then again I guess Beetle 05 isn't the same Kakine lol.
I know i practically say this every damn time but dark matter is such a cool power concept, with proper weaknesses that make it badass when you surpass said weaknesses. And its so fitting that Kakine represent that "what if Accelerator lost Last Order and never moved on from darkness", even sadder to see him die twice over getting too greedy simply bc he never met anybody truly good for him (not necessarily Touma tho it'd be nice) after Ringo. Really good character development overall considering that the good side of his heart (beetle 5) took over and who knows if those 2 Kakines ever rejoin and properly move on after a similar scenario of Touma vs KnT
Wasn't the Kakine's plan later on to become the number one to negotiate with aleister in order to stop academy city experimenting with children, after his experiences with Ringo? And the awakened Kakine is not quite fallen to darkness, as Mugino i think says that it was just an outer layer of Kakine's counsiousness, so in theory it would make sense that only the revenge part of his personality would go after the accel
A bigger point about Kakine as a character is his obsession with Aleister and proving that people like him can go against fate and defy aleister's plans(this is evident by his rant when tortures Yomikawa). Accelerator himself is just a stepping stone and symbol of AC's oppression rather than being the person he wanted to be.
He wants the title than actually being Accelerator as a person, but the title of number one has its consequences. And while he wants Aleister's recognition, Accelerator is the one who stands in his way so I feel Kakine is more obsessed about the status of number one rather than Aleister personally.
kakine has never shown to need the approval of people around him and he does not care about being rank number 2 or his status either, i dont know why people keep thinking he is salty cause accelerator is number 1 when thats not the case, his goal was just being able to bargain with aleister, if he happened to found something in under_line that could give him that power over aleister (like the paramerlist) he wouldnt have attacked accelerator. i have a very different image of kakine in my mind, so at the very least it was interesting to see the way you see him.
If it makes you feel better, they do team up in NT7 to fight a powerful enemy, its actually a really cool moment in the novel (although its a bit weird to explain that version of Kakine)
If you noticed about level 5s that they are half evil and wanted revenge to something(academy city). Sometimes they're arrogant like shouting, I'm the most powerful!
@@NiaNoire IIrc the fridge meme originates from 4chan since in the spoiler threads to NT6 they went bonkers with it. But I wasn't at Twitter during the time NT6 got spoiled so I could be wrong.
@@patrickjakobs5624 nah I was talking about a conversation we had on twitter yesterday about Kakine being cool and the fridge meme was something that was brought up during it
Oooh. Look at me. I'm Teitoku Kakine. I'm the second ranked Level Five. The Leader of SCHOOL. My ability is called Dark Matter- Accelerator: Like if anyone cares Third String Fairy Boy!
Jumping off to avoid the New Testament spoilers but did they change the fight i the anime because Dark Mater totally does not die in it. There that whole part Last Order needs to talk Accelerator down from killing Dark Mater and leaving his black wing state.
@@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 Because they tried to cover too many arcs in 26 episodes. S3 is disliked by a lot of LN readers because of it being rushed and trying to fit too much which ruins some of the best arcs in OT.
@@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 because they don’t put in all the content and cover all the important details. This leads to fucking up some of the most obvious stuff like Kakine’s injuries and completely ignoring Touma’s precognition in the Accelerator fight in WW3. Season 3 had the potential to be something amazing. But trying to cover over 8 volumes in 26 episodes fucks over multiple arcs and can ruin the experience because obvious details get skipped over. Which leads to viewers not knowing what the hell was occurring unless you read the novels.
Accelerator doesn`t care about the rankings and other espers at all and don`t have any strong goals(saving loli isn`t just enough to be a goal) While kakine:very serious about ranking and always trying to surpass others. Those things remind me of my high school life thought i still haven`t finished my school because of insurgency in myanmar. Note- i still haven`t started reading Ln and so i don`t know what do aleister,accelerator and touma want to be at all.
Apart from being an amazing character, Kakine is super op. But I don't think he deserves the #1 title u talk about in some videos, I think he wouldn't be able to beat Accelerator with Platinum Wings
What if he started using magic? His blood vessels would just regenerate if they get damaged so he wouldn't really have the same limitations as other espers who try to use magic. I think he'd probably beat Accel then.
Wdym? The light novels are still ongoing and Kakine's spinoff manga only came out last year. Considering this franchise hardly gets any attention in comparison to Star Wars, Demon Slayer, Marvel, AOT etc that get milked to death by most of UA-cam, how am I milking the franchise?
If you've read NT6, be sure to stick around until the end of the video for a little surprise, thank me later ;)
@Ark101 I went on the grind to finish it :^)
Love this part of the novel
It felt like kakine was only used for accelerators character dev
You know, when you learn of Kakine's history of being unable to protect those around him, it puts the anger that he expressed when Accelerator protected the civilians in their OT15 fight into a whole new perspective. Great vid Aeon!
Thank you!
I agree 💯
Yep, nothing beats you mentally worse than seeing a person you thought was "similar" to you completely surpass you and for good reasons.
Totally underrated character. Kamachi needs to give him some love.
I really think there would and should be a Dark matter arc which Beetle fight original Kakine it would a good point to explore his ability, character and back story since beetle is supposed to be the good side of him.
Finally, the true number one gets the spotlight he was meant to have.
Aeon noticed Kakine when Aleister wouldn't....
I mean Accelerator now is Board Chairman, so technically he is number 1 now
@@pidot2852 i've won but at what cost (c) Kakine
@@icecream3265 a price im willing to pay
If Kakine does somehow return in GT, I would love to see him find out that Touma is Aleister true #1 (Or I should say #0 in this case) and go after him. I feel Touma and Kakine's clash could be very interesting as not only is Touma is everything Kakine dreams of becoming despite only being a Level 0 but both have another version of themselves in the form of KnT and Beetle 05. Extra points if Kakine tries to get revange at Othinus, which will really piss Touma off.
Touma might change evil Kakine's perspective for good
@@AeonofHorus I forgot some.villans turn good after getting best up by touma Ironic isn't it?
extremely underrated character! top 5 for me
I've always seen Kakine as a failed Accelerator. Kakine when saying to Accelerator that they are the same he is right, but not in the way he thinks. They both have suffered a lot and have tragic lives, the difference is that Accelerator after his failure he begins to improve himself, becomes a better person and goes to a path of redemption while Kakine got broken by his failures and instead of seeing that he himself needs to get better he begins to see others as the problem and tries to defeat Accelerator thinking that it will solve his problems and he will be able to negotiate with Aleister, I don't see him as evil despite that what he is doing is bad, I see him as desperate man that tries to defeat Accelerator in a desperate attempt to get his well deserved justice, but as we know from Accelerator's life, even if Kakine defeats and kills him he still technically loses because he has no idea how being #1 truly is.It kinda of reminds me of the myth of Icarus, just like how Icarus tried to reach the sun using his wax wings, Kakine tries to reach #1 using his own wings, but their arrogance ends up being their downfall, Icarus has his wings melted by the sun just like how kakine's wings get overwhelmed by Accelerator's black wingsm
Slight gt spoilers
I'm quite curious what the future of his character will bring brcause I'm sure he will definitely come back and it's only a matter of when (and I am also very curious what his reaction will be when he learns Accelerator is the actual board chairman of AC)
I always wondering why kakine obsessed to become #1? Does become #1 has hidden benefit or something like that?
"The Imagine Breaker and the Accelerator stared at the golden-white ball in front of them.
They managed to rescue Last Order from a group of magicians that wanted to use her for their ritual. And apparently, Last Order was not the only one they wanted. Before that, they somehow managed to recover the brain of Kakine Teitoku, the no. 2 Level 5, Dark Matter.
From what they learned from the last magician they interrogated they were to use both the Misaka Network and Dark Matter's abilities to create a perfect being, incapable of harm and pain, and use it to subjugate Academy City for their "crimes against nature".
Accelerator walked into the room. "Hero, take Last Order and get outta here. I've business to settle with this extra." Kamijou knew not to anger the albino despite his edge against him, so he left the room, carrying the sleeping girl as he left.
Accelerator walked towards the ball, his choker activated from the start. He sneered. "Hnngh, it seems you just look more pathetic everytime I see you."
The ball didn't stir. Instead it sat there doing nothing.
"What? No response? I thought you wanted me dead all along," Accelerator said sardonically. Then the ball rippled. Accelerator immediately kept his guard up.
Then to his surprise, the ball opened up, exposing the brain underneath.
"What the," Accelerator was confused. "What the fuck are you planning?"
His answer came when Dark Matter appeared from the ball, forming kanji which only read:
'End it. I don't care anymore. Please. *Just end it.* ' "
Great analysis. A shame you missed the part about Kakine having an 8 pack, that he's shredded.
Thanks! Damn, he's shredded and lost to a skinny albino kid?
@@AeonofHorus *A crippled skinny albino kid.
@@idharpatangari9988 "and once his electrode runs out of battery, he's left role-playing as a vegetable against his will."
@@AeonofHorus
Physical power is useless against overwhelming power my friend.
Wait are you serious
Lesssgooo~ Finally some love for chad Kakine! Great video as always!
Thanks!
Imagine 2024 Index 20th anniversary, Index 4,Railgun F, Dark matter OVA and Mental out anime is announced 🤔
Great video.
A Dark matter Anime would probably be better than the Accelerator one
Thanks, it would be cool if he got an anime
Less action, more psychological thriller mixed with drama.
I do not think that Kakine wants admiration from others in trying to be #1. In fact, we can see it in Dark Matter. While Kakine originally wanted to beat Accelerator, he ditches that plan in order to find the Tweezers. Kakine didn't care about being #1, but what he did care about was finding a way to strike a deal with Aleister. Its also not that he's trying to increase his status in the world, he's trying to rid himself of shackles. Its even in his slogan "The normal rules don't apply to me", he wants to deal with Aleister so that he won't be under the city anymore and thus, acquiring freedom from the rules of the city.
Ringo's death was confirmed to have been deliberately caused by someone else, and right when Kakine was starting to get attached to her. This preceded events where Kakine actually did succeed in saving her, completely contradicting his previous philosophy. That they had to kill her leads me to believe that someone is (or was) deliberately shaping him into being like this. Kakine isn't seeking admiration from others, he's seeking liberation in order to truly do the things he wants to do, even if at the expense of others.
Kakine having an inferiority complex is also doubtful. Accelerator was able to prevent casualties in a battle between 2 Level 5s, and the highest ranking ones at that. He had managed to do what Kakine couldn't when both were in the same position, and he was able to protect the things he cared about even against elements that try to take it away. Ultimately, his lash out against Yomikawa was driven by his frustration and refusal to accept that someone succeeded in the same place he failed. You could attribute this to denial, where Kakine refused to accept that someone succeeded where he couldn't, especially someone "just like him". You could also say its a form of self loathing as well, in that he sees himself as irredeemable and people just like him shouldn't be capable of happiness.
Yeah finally the true #1.
Great video btw....
Thanks!
Great video especially the burn from Uiharu on one of the background memes ;)
Thanks!
One of best Esper in the series. Shame his spin-off only last for 4 chapters.
Also, the part 2 is about Beetle isn't it?
Nah, part 2 is his ability explained vid. There isn't much to say about Beetle for his own character analysis imo.
@@AeonofHorus Yeah. I guess his character can be summed as "Nicetoku".
But still, I'll look forward to the power analysis.
I've been waiting!!
3.5k subs, I need to find more friends to share this with.😢😢😢
So glad you covered Kakinie's character. I grew to like him more and more as I got into Index. I'm surprised you didn't mention Beetle 05 fighting alongside Touma in the Agitate Halation. One of my fav fights of the series, would love to see it animated. But then again I guess Beetle 05 isn't the same Kakine lol.
I mean that moment doesn't really have much for his character other than: "Beetle is a hero".
I genuinely like these analysis video for each char, next time could you cover Mugino too?
Eventually, sure!
Well, the end of the video really caught me off guard 😂😂😂
Good video and we will wait for part 2!
Thanks!
I know i practically say this every damn time but dark matter is such a cool power concept, with proper weaknesses that make it badass when you surpass said weaknesses. And its so fitting that Kakine represent that "what if Accelerator lost Last Order and never moved on from darkness", even sadder to see him die twice over getting too greedy simply bc he never met anybody truly good for him (not necessarily Touma tho it'd be nice) after Ringo. Really good character development overall considering that the good side of his heart (beetle 5) took over and who knows if those 2 Kakines ever rejoin and properly move on after a similar scenario of Touma vs KnT
That was an awesome video, I really look forward to the next part of Kakine
Thanks!
Another banger from daddy aeon 😳
lmao
Wasn't the Kakine's plan later on to become the number one to negotiate with aleister in order to stop academy city experimenting with children, after his experiences with Ringo? And the awakened Kakine is not quite fallen to darkness, as Mugino i think says that it was just an outer layer of Kakine's counsiousness, so in theory it would make sense that only the revenge part of his personality would go after the accel
Get him to 3.5k!!!
Hell yeah
2nd favourite esper✨👍
dark matter fate is dark
A bigger point about Kakine as a character is his obsession with Aleister and proving that people like him can go against fate and defy aleister's plans(this is evident by his rant when tortures Yomikawa). Accelerator himself is just a stepping stone and symbol of AC's oppression rather than being the person he wanted to be.
He wants the title than actually being Accelerator as a person, but the title of number one has its consequences. And while he wants Aleister's recognition, Accelerator is the one who stands in his way so I feel Kakine is more obsessed about the status of number one rather than Aleister personally.
kakine has never shown to need the approval of people around him and he does not care about being rank number 2 or his status either, i dont know why people keep thinking he is salty cause accelerator is number 1 when thats not the case, his goal was just being able to bargain with aleister, if he happened to found something in under_line that could give him that power over aleister (like the paramerlist) he wouldnt have attacked accelerator.
i have a very different image of kakine in my mind, so at the very least it was interesting to see the way you see him.
I want to see Kakine interact with Touma and Touma breaks him from his illusion
If it makes you feel better, they do team up in NT7 to fight a powerful enemy, its actually a really cool moment in the novel (although its a bit weird to explain that version of Kakine)
If you noticed about level 5s that they are half evil and wanted revenge to something(academy city). Sometimes they're arrogant like shouting, I'm the most powerful!
Is the fridge meme from twitter here 👀
Yes, the fridge is hiding in the thumbnail kek
@@AeonofHorus haha I see it now.
Twas a good video bestie
@@NiaNoire IIrc the fridge meme originates from 4chan since in the spoiler threads to NT6 they went bonkers with it. But I wasn't at Twitter during the time NT6 got spoiled so I could be wrong.
@@patrickjakobs5624 nah I was talking about a conversation we had on twitter yesterday about Kakine being cool and the fridge meme was something that was brought up during it
Oh God Kingdom Come meme flashback
A nice throwback right?
finally.
Where is part 2?
I don't know he kind of reminds me of a failed accelerator I mean if accelerator didn't save last order what would have happened to him
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Oooh. Look at me. I'm Teitoku Kakine. I'm the second ranked Level Five. The Leader of SCHOOL. My ability is called Dark Matter-
Accelerator: Like if anyone cares Third String Fairy Boy!
I watched the toaru series not too long ago and I wanted to know what website you read your LN on so I can read this series
@A Certain Medi ok thanks
Why did they kill off a hot character like him 😭
Jumping off to avoid the New Testament spoilers but did they change the fight i the anime because Dark Mater totally does not die in it. There that whole part Last Order needs to talk Accelerator down from killing Dark Mater and leaving his black wing state.
In the novels Kakine was pretty much dead. All that was left of him was pretty much his brain and his body was basically destroyed.
@@bearsaregreat1634 why do you think they changed that ?
@@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 Because they tried to cover too many arcs in 26 episodes. S3 is disliked by a lot of LN readers because of it being rushed and trying to fit too much which ruins some of the best arcs in OT.
@@bearsaregreat1634 how would rushing it stop them from killing Dark Matter ?
@@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 because they don’t put in all the content and cover all the important details. This leads to fucking up some of the most obvious stuff like Kakine’s injuries and completely ignoring Touma’s precognition in the Accelerator fight in WW3. Season 3 had the potential to be something amazing. But trying to cover over 8 volumes in 26 episodes fucks over multiple arcs and can ruin the experience because obvious details get skipped over. Which leads to viewers not knowing what the hell was occurring unless you read the novels.
Accelerator doesn`t care about the rankings and other espers at all and don`t have any strong goals(saving loli isn`t just enough to be a goal)
While kakine:very serious about ranking and always trying to surpass others.
Those things remind me of my high school life thought i still haven`t finished my school because of insurgency in myanmar.
Note- i still haven`t started reading Ln and so i don`t know what do aleister,accelerator and touma want to be at all.
Or as accelerator calls dark matter a knock off Villian
Apart from being an amazing character, Kakine is super op. But I don't think he deserves the #1 title u talk about in some videos, I think he wouldn't be able to beat Accelerator with Platinum Wings
What if he started using magic? His blood vessels would just regenerate if they get damaged so he wouldn't really have the same limitations as other espers who try to use magic.
I think he'd probably beat Accel then.
@@Kemoy79 oh shit I hadn't thought about that... Maybe u are right
@A Certain Medi I see I see... At least we all agree in that we all love Kakine
:p
kakine bad i hate him he bumped into my loli a little too hard
- accelerator
how are you still milking this franchise lmao
not complaining but actually how
Wdym? The light novels are still ongoing and Kakine's spinoff manga only came out last year. Considering this franchise hardly gets any attention in comparison to Star Wars, Demon Slayer, Marvel, AOT etc that get milked to death by most of UA-cam, how am I milking the franchise?
@@AeonofHorus well yes, but... it's been... a few years. I just can't really imagine doing that.