The first story was really hard for me. I am on the autism spectrum and deal with anxiety, not with queueing for groups but I can get this feeling and end dungeons shaking if im having an off day. I need to get me one of those doggos :) glad there was a happy ending!
Right? It felt super reletable and I'm over here because even playing a simple spec like arms feels overwhelming during certain fights like I remeber in particular kurog felt impossible to actually live through.
@@Yevonite27 Oh I know, but my memories of playing the game as a child sparked, like I can hear the voice thinking about it, so I couldn't help but be pedantic
Our county high school has drive your tractor to school day, I don't think they take time off for hunting season anymore but they're big about farming still for sure
My school (in the Deep South) didn’t have a week off for hunting season but kids could get an excused absence for opening day. We also had Hunters Education for eighth graders that, by the end, gave 14 year olds a hunting license. The gym teacher essentially taught gun safety to a group of kids after school. Sounds dangerous 😂
I was born and raised in Southeast Georgia in the states, and it was out in the country, small town...until this story I had NEVER EVER heard of school districts giving days off for "hunting season"...that's absolutely insane. lol
It's quite rare and usually up to the school district. From what I've seen if the district manager is a big hunting fan, then usually there is some sort of policy that allows kids to have an excused absence for the first day of a hunting season. I will say I've never seen a while school just close because of the start of hunting season. Just like I said, a policy that allows an excused absence. I work in IT consulting specializing in software sales and training, so I've traveled a lot all around the country. So, when I say it's rare I mean out of the roughly two thousand school districts I've worked with I can think of two schools that this has been a policy.
The hunting season thing started iirc because if the council didn't give the week off by standard, 90% of the students would not be in class regardless. So, to save time, everyone just got a week
As a Turkish woman, racism and sexism are definitely a thing in the EU servers as well. Sexism is better now but it was insane back in the TBC-WotLK era. It got to a point where I started to act like I was a man just to avoid the sexism. I used a male character and did not speak on voice chat until MoP. Racism is more "casual racism", you won't hear anyone say "filthy Turk" but they will say stuff like "We have rules in Europe", "we have freedom of speech here honey" and so on in the most condescending tone because I dared to push back on their 23423424th bomb joke.
Preach just casually doing his podcast while the world is ending in the background. EDIT: The only MMO anxiety I ever experienced was my first few months of FF14, and that was mostly doing to reading the FF14 subreddit. My enjoyment of the game vastly increased as soon as I stopped reading reddit.
I get the anxiety thing as returning player or over time without any big incidents. I healed in WoW for 17+ years, i was confident, i think i was a good healer, surely not exceptional or anything. Over the years and more breaks with the game, playing other stuff, everytime i got back i was more anxious, to a point with the switch to FF14 and testing abit dragonflight that i never healed again in any game. Cant say why, but with the years and breaks i think insecurity and more serious pressure to not get the job done and getting roasted took over. I surely wasnt as good as when i only played WoW due to the breaks and other games. It natural when u go hardcore WoW to variety casual playing all kinds of mmo's like ESO, FF14 etc. I could be wrong and didnt realise it that bad back then, but i also think the attitude in these games and content went more aggressive.
I haven't grouped for a dungeon or raid in a long, long time. For me It's not really a phobia or fear. It's more to do with not feeling like taking the chance of having to deal with the types of people who get angry over this stuff. So I guess you could call it a weariness of idiots.
I'm an ffxiv player and I have a wow related question, but it's for people who have played both games. I was watching an older drama time today and in it, there was a group working on normal raid progression in wow. The group did make it through after a couple of days of prog, but they struggled on a couple of bosses. So what I was wondering was: which game's normal mode is harder? In ff I can pug the normal version of a new raid day one. Usually one or two or in rare cases, three shotting the bosses. I do Savage raiding so I am coming at this from the perspective of someone who is at least reasonably good at the game, but...are wow's normal raids actually somewhat hard? Or was the group just bad?
A FC with emergency based professions? I remember during MoP I signed up for a group on OpenRaid on H Galakras trying to get my warrior a trinket, turned out to be an alt group of a lesbian guild lol. They needed 3 more people including me and only ended up with one dude in the group. Oh and I just couldn't get over how the most stereotypical lesbian of the group - the gm/rl, was a feral druid. 😂 Actually saw her again a few years ago while looking at feral druid parses on WCL.
been saying this for years: there's a contingent of the playerbase that lives in Normal dungeons, treats them like they are serious content, and never learn/improve
He played Warcraft 3 a couple of years back. I remember he commented on how he recognized the designs of several buildings and some spell icons from WoW and realized they have been almost directly been copied over fr8m Warcraft 3 with just a few touchups.
Preach lives in both a streamer bubble of positive helpers and a nolifer gamer mindset of "spend all your time getting good so you'll never be bullied". Failure of anything in a multiplayer game will nearly always result in toxicity targeting you. Even if it doesn't, that doesn't matter because it's what people think will happen, people have heard to stories and don't want to be a victim. Starcraft 2 developers said in an interview that only 20% of players played 1 online multiplayer and that was high compared to most games because they made the campaign a way to teach players how to play multiplayer. I had a friend recently play FFXIV when they finally finished adding NPCs to all dungeons, was never going to play it until that happened.
For the healers I feel like this interaction between tank and healer should be common. I haven't played WoW but we have pivoted too far in the wrong direction in FFXIV. Tanks should need healers, in group content. Pray for your WHM in Dawntrail
Coming back is super nerve-wracking, especially if you are halfway thru a season and don't know the dungeons. You just have to turn that off and just do a few and see how it goes
Let me just say Mike you are looking great! Not that you didnt look good before, but i can tell you've lost quite a bit of weight and are looking good 👍👍👍👍
Author doing the most insane of mental gymnastics to mentally shoot themselves in the foot, blames the game and covid parients of all things... wtf did I just listen to? EDIT: nevermind, listened to the end. Great redemption story!
That is absolutely not common for US servers. Like Blizz, the company that replaced male and female in the character creator with body 1 and body 2 would allow shit like that. Im not sure there's anything you could do that would get you in trouble faster. And for the people terrified of dungeons, I have run hundreds over the course of dragonflight. Normal and heroics are so easy that most of the time, not a word is spoken, and you could pretty much afk and it would still go without a hitch. There is nothing you could do in those dungeons to mess anything up that bad, especially if you follow the group. And if you are afraid of mythic +. Just run your own key. That's all I do and even in 16-20 range(now 6-10) I barely get a peep out of people. Get out there and run some dungeons.
They do allow stuff like that, Blizz rarely ban anyone for toxicity, and when they do its a 24 hour ban like a week after the issue happened. That's why WoW US is so toxic. Also not speaking is awful too, why not just say a simple "hello" at the start and "good run" at the end. It's an MMO yet the most antisocial place you can be.
@ThisisCitrus Well, you are really picking apart my comment here. I simply do not see that type of stuff out in the open on the servers I play on. And yes, oftentimes people will say "hello" or "gg". I just meant in general shit talking.
@@EazyEcoli Maybe I'm just unlucky in every server of WoW I play being terrible. Do you have general and trade turned off? Those channels are dumpster fires every time I turn them on, racist nonsense and political garbage.
@ThisisCitrus i have trade moved to it's own window and only deal with it when I am looking for someone to craft something. I am in general chat and don't see too much going on in it. Occasionally, there is some chat, and occasionally it's a dumpster fire, but i wouldn't call it the norm in most zones.
they took preach's advice and did something he said not to do like all the other stories where they took his advice, right? edit: holy... they actually followed the advice!
Ngl the PuG was bad but man would i not want to ever play with OP. Her perspective seems so victim like and looking to be hurt by anything looking for any reason to assume everyone hates her. She sounds like the person to be telling a story and then stop midway through and say "oh well you know what I have to say isn't important anyways sorry for wasting your time," and need constant validation that what you say on a daily basis isn't a call out or an insult. As well, the whole story felt emotionally manipulative, and well she bragged she is a manipulator. If you're taking offence to "gg," and compliments on side healing man, you sound emotionally exhausting to be around.
The first story was really hard for me. I am on the autism spectrum and deal with anxiety, not with queueing for groups but I can get this feeling and end dungeons shaking if im having an off day. I need to get me one of those doggos :) glad there was a happy ending!
Right? It felt super reletable and I'm over here because even playing a simple spec like arms feels overwhelming during certain fights like I remeber in particular kurog felt impossible to actually live through.
I regret to inform you it was Peasants who said "Yes, Milord" not Peons.
Same type of minion just wrong faction
@@Yevonite27 Oh I know, but my memories of playing the game as a child sparked, like I can hear the voice thinking about it, so I couldn't help but be pedantic
Work Work
Daboo. Zug zug
Me not that kind of Orc
this story really speaks to me
i overcame my tank and healer anxiety playing ff14 and now i can get ksm as a healer main and off tank 😂
Our county high school has drive your tractor to school day, I don't think they take time off for hunting season anymore but they're big about farming still for sure
Your tank kicks multiple healers....and you think it's your fault? Nah...that's clearly the tank.
Can relate to the story in a way honestly. Still stay away from dungeons with other people. It gives me such anxiety. Good drama time
The dog is the best healer
Humans don't deserve dogs.
My school (in the Deep South) didn’t have a week off for hunting season but kids could get an excused absence for opening day. We also had Hunters Education for eighth graders that, by the end, gave 14 year olds a hunting license. The gym teacher essentially taught gun safety to a group of kids after school. Sounds dangerous 😂
Thanks Preach and team for 12 years of drama time! 🙌🏻 We appreciate you!
Whoever said “they’re going to make him play healer” fuckijg sent me. I was dying
I was born and raised in Southeast Georgia in the states, and it was out in the country, small town...until this story I had NEVER EVER heard of school districts giving days off for "hunting season"...that's absolutely insane. lol
Lmao same but northeast Florida and this shit sounds fucking wild to me to me wish we had gotten that shit
It's quite rare and usually up to the school district. From what I've seen if the district manager is a big hunting fan, then usually there is some sort of policy that allows kids to have an excused absence for the first day of a hunting season. I will say I've never seen a while school just close because of the start of hunting season. Just like I said, a policy that allows an excused absence.
I work in IT consulting specializing in software sales and training, so I've traveled a lot all around the country.
So, when I say it's rare I mean out of the roughly two thousand school districts I've worked with I can think of two schools that this has been a policy.
The hunting season thing started iirc because if the council didn't give the week off by standard, 90% of the students would not be in class regardless. So, to save time, everyone just got a week
As a Turkish woman, racism and sexism are definitely a thing in the EU servers as well. Sexism is better now but it was insane back in the TBC-WotLK era. It got to a point where I started to act like I was a man just to avoid the sexism. I used a male character and did not speak on voice chat until MoP. Racism is more "casual racism", you won't hear anyone say "filthy Turk" but they will say stuff like "We have rules in Europe", "we have freedom of speech here honey" and so on in the most condescending tone because I dared to push back on their 23423424th bomb joke.
Preach just casually doing his podcast while the world is ending in the background.
EDIT: The only MMO anxiety I ever experienced was my first few months of FF14, and that was mostly doing to reading the FF14 subreddit. My enjoyment of the game vastly increased as soon as I stopped reading reddit.
How dare he blueball the HOLLA BOLLAS like that...
That dog is awesome
brofist to you too!
I get the anxiety thing as returning player or over time without any big incidents. I healed in WoW for 17+ years, i was confident, i think i was a good healer, surely not exceptional or anything. Over the years and more breaks with the game, playing other stuff, everytime i got back i was more anxious, to a point with the switch to FF14 and testing abit dragonflight that i never healed again in any game. Cant say why, but with the years and breaks i think insecurity and more serious pressure to not get the job done and getting roasted took over. I surely wasnt as good as when i only played WoW due to the breaks and other games. It natural when u go hardcore WoW to variety casual playing all kinds of mmo's like ESO, FF14 etc. I could be wrong and didnt realise it that bad back then, but i also think the attitude in these games and content went more aggressive.
Wheres the link for that displate?
I haven't grouped for a dungeon or raid in a long, long time. For me It's not really a phobia or fear. It's more to do with not feeling like taking the chance of having to deal with the types of people who get angry over this stuff. So I guess you could call it a weariness of idiots.
that server would be ragnaros.
To be perfectly fair, some leveling dungeons can be the worst experience ever if your tank has zero idea how to play the game.
I'm an ffxiv player and I have a wow related question, but it's for people who have played both games.
I was watching an older drama time today and in it, there was a group working on normal raid progression in wow. The group did make it through after a couple of days of prog, but they struggled on a couple of bosses. So what I was wondering was: which game's normal mode is harder?
In ff I can pug the normal version of a new raid day one. Usually one or two or in rare cases, three shotting the bosses. I do Savage raiding so I am coming at this from the perspective of someone who is at least reasonably good at the game, but...are wow's normal raids actually somewhat hard? Or was the group just bad?
Wow normal raid is harder but they have an easier version called LFR.
@@griever589 Thank you!
A FC with emergency based professions? I remember during MoP I signed up for a group on OpenRaid on H Galakras trying to get my warrior a trinket, turned out to be an alt group of a lesbian guild lol. They needed 3 more people including me and only ended up with one dude in the group. Oh and I just couldn't get over how the most stereotypical lesbian of the group - the gm/rl, was a feral druid. 😂 Actually saw her again a few years ago while looking at feral druid parses on WCL.
been saying this for years: there's a contingent of the playerbase that lives in Normal dungeons, treats them like they are serious content, and never learn/improve
That this dungeon only took 1h is kinda surprising.
really hope Mike gets around to playing Warcraft 3 one of these days
He played Warcraft 3 a couple of years back.
I remember he commented on how he recognized the designs of several buildings and some spell icons from WoW and realized they have been almost directly been copied over fr8m Warcraft 3 with just a few touchups.
Preach lives in both a streamer bubble of positive helpers and a nolifer gamer mindset of "spend all your time getting good so you'll never be bullied". Failure of anything in a multiplayer game will nearly always result in toxicity targeting you. Even if it doesn't, that doesn't matter because it's what people think will happen, people have heard to stories and don't want to be a victim. Starcraft 2 developers said in an interview that only 20% of players played 1 online multiplayer and that was high compared to most games because they made the campaign a way to teach players how to play multiplayer. I had a friend recently play FFXIV when they finally finished adding NPCs to all dungeons, was never going to play it until that happened.
Mike doesn't run into sexism and racism in WoW because he hasn't had General chat enabled for the last 15 years
How can he play this much wow and know this little
i'm struggling at the moment looking for a group to even do group content with :c
For the healers I feel like this interaction between tank and healer should be common. I haven't played WoW but we have pivoted too far in the wrong direction in FFXIV. Tanks should need healers, in group content. Pray for your WHM in Dawntrail
Coming back is super nerve-wracking, especially if you are halfway thru a season and don't know the dungeons. You just have to turn that off and just do a few and see how it goes
A few years ago I wrote half a drama story but never finished it and sent it in. Now I can't even remember what it was going to be about.
Dont be a casual innit bruv
Also no the experience she got in that levelling dungeon is not common like all the angry twitter users will tell you.
Maybe it's a combination of stories about terrible grouping experiences, feeling new to the modern mechanics, and the M+ community?
the sexism is extremely common in EU as well, same for the racism tbh
Let me just say Mike you are looking great! Not that you didnt look good before, but i can tell you've lost quite a bit of weight and are looking good 👍👍👍👍
Crazy how people can freak out so much over literally nothing
Author doing the most insane of mental gymnastics to mentally shoot themselves in the foot, blames the game and covid parients of all things... wtf did I just listen to?
EDIT: nevermind, listened to the end. Great redemption story!
So that party will truly be the final days?
Its wensday here in germany, pretty sure thats not how timezones work mate
Wednesday, a.k.a. Wodinstag
innit bruv
That is absolutely not common for US servers. Like Blizz, the company that replaced male and female in the character creator with body 1 and body 2 would allow shit like that. Im not sure there's anything you could do that would get you in trouble faster. And for the people terrified of dungeons, I have run hundreds over the course of dragonflight. Normal and heroics are so easy that most of the time, not a word is spoken, and you could pretty much afk and it would still go without a hitch. There is nothing you could do in those dungeons to mess anything up that bad, especially if you follow the group. And if you are afraid of mythic +. Just run your own key. That's all I do and even in 16-20 range(now 6-10) I barely get a peep out of people. Get out there and run some dungeons.
They do allow stuff like that, Blizz rarely ban anyone for toxicity, and when they do its a 24 hour ban like a week after the issue happened. That's why WoW US is so toxic. Also not speaking is awful too, why not just say a simple "hello" at the start and "good run" at the end. It's an MMO yet the most antisocial place you can be.
@ThisisCitrus Well, you are really picking apart my comment here. I simply do not see that type of stuff out in the open on the servers I play on. And yes, oftentimes people will say "hello" or "gg". I just meant in general shit talking.
@@EazyEcoli Maybe I'm just unlucky in every server of WoW I play being terrible. Do you have general and trade turned off? Those channels are dumpster fires every time I turn them on, racist nonsense and political garbage.
@ThisisCitrus i have trade moved to it's own window and only deal with it when I am looking for someone to craft something. I am in general chat and don't see too much going on in it. Occasionally, there is some chat, and occasionally it's a dumpster fire, but i wouldn't call it the norm in most zones.
they took preach's advice and did something he said not to do like all the other stories where they took his advice, right?
edit: holy... they actually followed the advice!
Who tf keeps trade/general chat turned on these days?
Racism and sexism is EVERYWHERE in the US WoW servers.
Yeah cause Euro is a utopia
but but they had to sign the social agreement?!?
@@stuartfury3390 so, if EU is bad, would it cancel out US being shit?
@@Alex-mc5yn Does OP's statement mean that it doesn't exist in the EU? See what I did there?
"Is racism common in the US?"
Is the Pope Catholic?
Innit bruv
With as much as Preach hates anime and weeb stuff and positivity I'm surprised he can stomach FF14.
He gets paid to play it
I think story overwrites it. Though I think only Hildebrande goes full weeb mode. The rest doesnt feel weebish other than some glams
People are absolutely addicted to sympathy and being the victim, it's crazy.
Uninstalling WoW and going back to FF14 was the right choice.
had to turn off trade chat when trump got elected. have yet to turn it back on lol
Ngl the PuG was bad but man would i not want to ever play with OP. Her perspective seems so victim like and looking to be hurt by anything looking for any reason to assume everyone hates her.
She sounds like the person to be telling a story and then stop midway through and say "oh well you know what I have to say isn't important anyways sorry for wasting your time," and need constant validation that what you say on a daily basis isn't a call out or an insult. As well, the whole story felt emotionally manipulative, and well she bragged she is a manipulator.
If you're taking offence to "gg," and compliments on side healing man, you sound emotionally exhausting to be around.
The woman is clearly not mentally well and not a reliable narrator.