The World's Top Scoring Typical Buck for 79 YEARS! The Story of the Jordan Buck
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2021
- For some reason, the stories of high-ranking whitetails often involve bizarre circumstances. The story of the Jordan Buck is no exception. In fact, it could be argued that this is the strangest whitetail story of all.
Even a century after the Jordan buck's demise, this stunning 5x5 ranks No. 2 on B&C's all-time list of typicals. With a net score of 206 1/8, he held the official world record from when he was panel-scored in 1966 until Milo Hanson's buck shot in 1993 was ruled No. 1 by B&C in 1995. In effect, the Jordan buck was the world's top-scoring typical for 79 years.
In the fall of 1914, James "Jim" Jordan was a wiry 22-year-old with a deep love of the outdoors. Descended from one of the first non-native families to homestead in the area, he'd grown up near the logging town of Hinckley, Minnesota, but from there Jim and his bride, Lena, had recently moved a few miles east to Danbury, just across the Wisconsin line.
When Jim got his iron sights on the giant, he shot . . . and shot . . . and shot. He felt at least one round hit solidly, but the massive buck kept following the does.
Jim dug around in his pockets and found one more round. Then he anxiously began following the oversized tracks. He found a bit of blood and occasionally caught glimpses of the buck ahead. But he didn't dare chance a shot just yet. He knew he had to make this last one count. . . . and the giant fell.
After tagging this giant buck, jim wanted to get a mount. And this is where the wild ride begins.
In nearby Webster lived part-time taxidermist George Van Castle, who agreed to mount the deer for $5 (about $120 today). The antlers and short cape were delivered, and the hunter awaited completion of his trophy.
But soon after Jim handed off the deer, George's wife died. The taxidermist moved to Hinckley, Minnesota, 30 miles from Danbury. When Jim learned of this, he wasn't too worried. But after many months with no word from George, Jim traveled to Hinckley to see what the holdup was. That's when he learned George had moved again - this time to Florida. And he'd left no forwarding address.
Leap ahead right at a half-century, to 1964. Jim was 72 and still in the area. And yes, he still lamented his loss. He'd told his sad story many times.
n 1958, Bob Ludwig was at a rummage sale in Sandstone, Minnesota, 10 miles north of Hinckley, when he spied an old neck mount. It was in bad shape, but that couldn't obscure the tall, wide, heavy and balanced 10-point rack. A deer hunter himself, Bob felt it was worth having, so he and the owner struck a deal: $3.
Nothing much happened with the deer for five more years. Then Bob read an article detailing the B&C system. He decided to try his hand at scoring the "antique" buck - and came up with a net of 205. That was 3 inches more than the Breen buck, which had become No. 1 in 1960.
Bob reached out to a B&C measurer in the Twin Cities, with this news. They agreed to meet, but for some reason that meeting never took place. Then, against all odds, a year later the scorer was driving through the area when he recognized Bob's name on a rural mailbox. Sure enough, it was the man with the old antlers. In short order Bernard put a tape to the rack, coming up with 206 5/8 net.
Bob shipped the antlers to B&C for panel-scoring, and on Feb. 28, 1966, at Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh, George Church signed off on the panel's score of 206 1/8. There was a new No. 1 typical: the "Sandstone" buck.
Jim's claim initially seemed crazy to Bob. Sure, he'd heard his uncle tell of that lost buck - but how could this possibly be the same deer? Upon investigation, Bob learned the mount had come from the attic of an old house in Hinckley: the same one George Van Castle had lived in briefly before heading to Florida. And the "killed in 1914" written on the back of the discarded mount was a match to Jim's 50-year-old story.
Behind the scenes, the wheels were slowly turning. Those involved with the deer were pleading Jim's case with B&C. They believed the "Sandstone" buck was his long-lost trophy and that he and Wisconsin should get the credit.
In December 1978, B&C finally agreed. The deer was to be listed as the James Jordan buck from Burnett County, Wisconsin, in 1981's 8th edition of Records of North American Big Game. Jim's dream at last had come true. But it was a hollow victory. Because just two months prior to B&C's decision, the 86-year-old hunter had passed away.
Most deer tales end with a happy hunter kneeling beside the kill. But in a way, that's the point at which the real hunt for the Jordan buck begins.
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I love the story of this buck. I remember seeing this story in Outdoor Life when I was a kid. I showed it to my Dad who grew up in Wisconsin. He read it and said "I knew Jim, he was our neighbor in Danbury". My grandfather frequented Jim's tavern when Dad was a kid. Dad talked about Egus Davis and his son Bing working in the woods with Gramp. Dad knew nearly all the people in the story. He said there were "swamp bucks" that were quite big down on the St Croix and Yellow River. I asked Dad if Jim ever told him about the buck and he couldn't remember hearing the story. I think Dad's family left Wisconsin in the late 30's. I killed a heavy 4 point in Montana in 1984 and Dad said "That looks like a big old Wisconsin swamp buck". Dad died in 2015 and a lot of stories went with him. I miss him every time I go fishing.
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I live in Danbury...
Bob Ludwig is my wife's late grandfather he was a great forester and sportsman in Pine county. He did in fact purchase the antlers at a garage sale after noticing they were extraordinary. This find by grandpa Bob is special for us. After it was officially scored, he now owned a world record buck. He was made offers and ended up selling it which allowed him to purchase the family land we all hunt on now, in between Sandstone and Danbury. The buck and rack paid for a place for generations to hunt and enjoy the outdoors.
Wonderful story. Thank you for sharing
that story is as good or better than the original one of finding those antlers so many years later..ive done so much research on this deer since i was a kid..it will always be my favorite whitetail of all time and now i found out about your story making him even more special..hes the buck that kept on giving...thnku
What a crazy story and a shame Mr. Jordan wasn't alive to be reunited in the record book.
What a saga the story behind this buck is! Such an incredible whitetail. After traveling through NW Wisconsin last week, I can understand how they grow big up there!
Man I realize how lucky I am to be able to hunt in nw Wisconsin on 170 acres in verneon county it’s amazing there really are some tanks there
Excellent story! Way to put it all together. I have heard this story and read in multiple articles over the years and this buck has always been my favorite, even without the incredible accounts. To have that caliber of a buck with a 5x5 mainframe is absolutely insane. He has it all. Thanks for sharing the amazing story!
Definitely a good story. By almost getting away wounded and then floating down a river, this buck nearly became organic matter. The part-time taxidermist who lost the rack showed exceptionally poor character in not returning them to Jordan or even attempting to contact him.
Truly a Wonderful version of the Jordan Buck, Definitely worth the watch!
My favorite of the Legendary heads. Great spotlight. Great deer.
I always loved this buck and the hole in the horn buck but hands down the jordan buck story is crazy imagine that deer walking up on you
Great story and awesome of you guys to put out such great content. I appreciate the stories and guys you have on to show their trophies. Always waiting for the next notification lol
You guys did a great job with all the photos and sharing this man's story, awesome, I love it!
Gave me chills when the video said James Jordan was Bob Ludwig's uncle and the rack was back in his hands!
Excellent job on this video and story. From a hunter in deer camp in Northern MN that never knew this amazing and heartbreaking story.
Awesome layout story to one of the best bucks ever harvested.
Great story! It's even better finding out that this is the area that I live in. I have 20 acres that I live on close to Hinckley, and just bought 41 acres on the Burnett Co. WI border where this buck was actually shot!
can't image the feeling of losing that buck for so long with the gypsy taxidermist so to speak...incredible story and man you have to feel for Mr. Jordan....what a buck!!!
This is an amazing story! Cool this is in my home state of Wisconsin. I have seen this rack and it’s unbelievable! Thanks for bringing it. The john Breen buck from Minnesota is also an incredible buck from that same era also has a great story. Maybe consider doing a video on that buck as well....btw hoping maybe you guys can weigh in on the trail cam ban in Arizona. Thanks!
Great video guys
30 inch main beams
52 2/8 inches of net mass
Wow!
These videos are awesome!
Aye a little home town pride for me! Awesome video guys!! Keep it up.
Awe man what a wild and wonderful story, yet bittersweet. 2 months after his death, almost like receiving a purple 💜 posthumously, just not to the obvious extreme of being in the military. Or getting into a sports hall of fame after death.
Such a beautiful beast of a deer 🦌 thank you for sharing this story.
Incredible story!
Never knew this ! James Jordan lost his WR rack for 63 yrs ! First time too hear this ! 🌳🦌🌳🤔
What an amazingly heart breaking story. But hey its in the record books now old man, and they can't take that away from him
So glad I get to call Wisconsin home. Have been putting out the biggest buck's of all states the past several years. Good luck to all
Wow, what a story!!!
Amazing story!
Truly amazing
Amazing story love it, you can actually go there and walk the trail of it. You guys need to interview Ron Osborn from north Jackson Ohio, he shot the hole in the horn junior buck and also has a 150+ 6 point as well. Prob late 60’s now. I’ve had the pleasure to talk to him frequently. Thanks for the story and history on the Jordan buck. My favorite of all time
25.20 WCF is still legal in Wisconsin as it is a center fire cartridge and is a caliber equal to or greater than .22. Rimfire cartridges are not allowed. That said, it is an inadequate cartridge.
SOB disappearing with your trophy!? Can you imagine? I don’t care if it’s 1918, that dude knew he was taking off with someone else’s deer.
The moral of the story is, never go to taxidermist who only charges $3.00.
Beautiful buck
Wild story
In my opinion the Jordan Buck is greatest whitetail of all time
Truly a magnificent animal. I feel sorry for what James went through, and never got to know his trophy was the biggest typical whitetail ever killed. Not to take anything away from this massive trophy, I think the John Breen buck is still my favorite trophy.
Now that’s insane!
Growing Older, At A Young Age, The Deer & The Story That Lit Us Up As Young Hunter"s Was The Jordan Buck !!!!...
He is my great great grandma
Lol
One of those Wow! Deer stories. @0:06 Any information about this non-typical buck?
I want to know how many steps have two of the largest deer in the world? Long live the Jordan Buck, Long live the King Buck.
So who the hell is Bob and how does he come into the story I understand he is nephews to the man who shot the buck but how did he get a hold of the deer ?
Im pretty sure he had found it at a garage sale and ended up buying it. After buying it he had brought it to Jordan who owned a bar and collected deer heads and antlers.
Talk about fate
I'm with you.... it totally leaves out how " Bob" came into possession of the antlers... Jordan shot the deer.... then he took it to George the taxidermist. George moves to Minnesota then moves to Florida. Jordan searches for the deer then it jumps to Bob decides to score the deer.
@@joshchambers9103 I actually had to come on to my computer to try and get that same thing figured out, glad I wasnt alone, kinda left a gap in the story, im glad the above poster posted about bob being there uncle.
Incredible frame on the Jordan buck!!!!
Pretty incredible and always thought the story was wild !
That’s sad they gave him a hard time .. he should’ve been able to be trusted and enjoy the buck. .. I hope his family can have the mount at least
So… what was the caliber of the rifle?… model 1892 is a rifle with various calibers.
The milo Hansen buck: am I a joke to you ?
I have a cabin in Danbury 1 mile from where he shot it
Why did you skip over one of the most interesting part of this story and that being how the antlers were found after the taxidermist left the state!
7 4/8 ??
2520WCF is a center fire cartridge there is is only one center fire cartridge that isn't legal in Wisconsin for deer hunting and that is the 17 Caliber Nor are rimfires legal
The text of the story does a better job because the narration just mentions Bob with no context and it's really confusing
Yes! He never introduced who Bob was or how he received the mount lol
Now the days of deer farming are rampant,where the boone crockett scoring system becomes tainted.As any big buck can come from an enclosure
Jordan Buck is a ten point the deer that are now world record are all twelve point
You are allowed to hunt with a .22 mag in Wisconsin for deer. Pretty sure their only requirement is a center fire cartridge no smaller than .22
I think you mean "not allowed" since 22 mag is a rimfire cartridge
Sounds like a tall tale by an old coot.
Ok so what i get from the versions ive heard many people had this buck 1. James jordan 2. Taxidermy guy 3. Yardsale people 4. James jordans nephew and it somehow made it back to james Jordan another question is how did the yardsale people get it from the attic? And why would the guy never give it back to leave it behind ? Also wtf ever happened to the florida guy ?
Crazy to think that deer was killed only an 1hr away from me there are some true giants lurking the mn and wis ground.
It’s still the world record for a typical ten point
Going to be a very tough to top it
Until this year!
7 and 4 8ths you say ? Not a half ?
It goes by 8ths
Then the signs went up and food plots.
Nit Pick. He might have "Lamented his loss", it is unlikely he "Laminated his loss"
What else can u say
I wonder how many big bucks we don't know about because they are stuffed away in A basement or in an attic?
alot
One is over my fireplace. 234 and I could care less about the attention or fame. Didn't even put it in the books. I hate it all.
@@brettb4452 Why did you bother to shoot, score and mount yours then?? Score evidently does mean something to you then Or you would have been content knowing you have A big buck! LMAO
@backwoodsbully9841 what? None of what you said makes any sense. As a bow hunter, I'm after the most mature buck I can find. I killed a mature buck. The taxidermist scored him because he was curious. I am content knowing I killed the best buck out there on my property that year. I mount them for the memories and out of respect for the deer. Have any more questions?
None of what you said made sense. I also think your full of it and haven't even shot A buck over 150!! LMAO at your BS story! Any other BS stories to tell???? LMAO@@brettb4452
Cool story but I’m pretty sure that’s an acceptable cartridge in wi
George VanKessel is my Great Grandfather
Funny thing is you can get way better scoring bucks from a high fence hunt
Now hes no. 3 and about to be no. 4. There was a bigger typical shot in ohio a few days ago. The AJ anderson buck. Look it up. Its HUGe!
My favorite buck is the mitch rompola buck with a 216 typical whitetail
It was never panel certified by B&C, and Mitch has turned down many attempts at verifying it. He also got caught at the fair with a camera taped to his shoe. Rompola is a conman and a pervert
It is Minecraftinhalo
Davis is my Grandpa fun fact the first shot at the Jordan buck was by Davis and near by Davis shot two does so he went back to get the does so Jordan went after the buck and finally killed it Davis got the meat Jordan got the horns
I don’t think the video does that buck justice
Definitely a buck you need to see in person!
You folks hear what you want to hear. This is horrible story telling. How the heck did "Bob" get connected to the Jordan Buck? How do you not explain this part?!?!?
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Now the big ones are kept fenced in and fed high protein food for the antlers they're strictly for growing antlers I wouldn't there should be no such thing as a big buck contest these days
The big buck contests are only free range there are certain ones for just high fence but very few
Some of those racks from ranches are so ugly looking lol.
Back in around 1946 . In Brunswick county NC. Off of HYW 211 in-between midway Rd. and South Port NC. My grandfather Elwood Ballard. Killed a massive 12 point buck. My grandfather was hunting with a few of his friends. He said he could hear the dogs way off but sounded like was headed towards him. And all of a sudden he heard a thud and looked up and there it was . They had to cut two long branches and cross them. And tie each hoof to a end. The deer was well over 240 pounds which is big for around our area. And it was 24 inches from tip to tip. He had a few black and white pictures of it but God only knows we're there at now . But my grandfather had killed many deer in his life and he had never seen one that big or anyone else around here. My grandfather was at work on day and a man stopped by to buy some collards we used to grow collards ever year. Well the man seen the rack my grandfather had on the porch and offered to givey grandma I think it was 10 $ for needles to say my grandfather was really pissed when he found out. I wish they were still here because I think it could have been a world record buck..
My father-in-law has a 10 point and 12 point mounted.
They seem pretty good size. It's just shoulders up. I image this dear is crazy big
Where I'm from people just say they killed a 12 point buck or whatever the point r. Never heard anyone from around here say anything about measurements... is that cause 12 point to small?
Biggest I seen mounted was 16 I think. I was like 20. I'm not a hunter. And haven't hunted since the 90's
@@alliebarnett3143 maybe deer don't have the environment to get that big or old here. I imagine there good hunters here. 🤣
Hanson buck is nice but Hanson can't even hunt
What kind of shitty backwoods business moves and takes all of the hunters properties with and tells no one?