In Sheffield UK hardly anyone has a drive or garage: there are tens of thousands of households parking their cars on the street. I don't even have a car, but I'd love one of these chargepoints outside my house that *any* EV could use, not just my neighbours.
I think this is not that much of a bad tradeoff. Still, this is just a gen 1 implementation. They can always improve and minimize the design in the future.
Usually neighbours don't park in the same position. So, would it be that a few neighbours have these chargers with a sharing facility so that dependent on where their parked they can have access.
I think this is a really good solution. People who are saying you can't lug that around everywhere. Remember, this is gen1 implementation, which can be improved upon. Also, if this gets implemented, as demand and popularity grow, they can partner up with EV manufactures to build the tech needed into the car itself, making it so that you only need the connecting wire to charge from a ground outlet on the pavement. Making it much, much more feasible in the long term, especially in locations constrained with land availability.
I assume water and gunge is kept out by the air pushed out, when the lance is pushed in- I suppose as he says, a standard technology in the oil and gas industry.
In Boston there's already folks camping street spots with traffic cones. I can't imagine how annoying it would be to come home to an ICE vehicle in my spot and have to park 3 or 4 blocks away ON TOP of paying for the monthly charge account and the hardware investment.
£99 a month is about 120KW of rapid charging in the UK about 400miles of driving. That is quite expensive before you have spent a penny on electricity even cheap electricity, with no guarantee that you can charge your car. Maybe if it was £20 a month I would consider it.
I always like 1 time price, not 120/month forever. Everybody can calculate how much it is after 10 years. I use standard ccs 50 kw public charger and I use about 50 euros a month, no home charging, this works fine without 120 a month extra payment. Of course I waste some time when charging, but I have free time to do it.
Having lived in a suburban Neighbour hood in Vancouver. The street parking was non reserved and was always an issue not getting a spot in front of our house. Unless your could “reserve”’your spot with a permit from the municipality. Than it might work.
The problem with reserving spots is that they are public roads. Even if the will is there, that can cause legal obstacles. Reserved spaces often leads to inefficient allocation of resources and problems with use by tradesmen, etc.
Ultimately, some sort of wireless charging will be a game changer. It doesn't have to be on the ground. The service could be on a box on top of a pole by the curb. Just pull up and park adjacent to it and it connects wirelessly to the mating point on the side of your vehicle. It would work a lot better than embedded in the ground. It would be easier to service, no dirt, grime,rain, snow, ice, leafs, trash to deal with. With have millions and millions of mailboxes on the curbs already.
The efficiency is too low. That might be acceptable if the infrastructure was there but it isn't even for wired connections even for moderate EV adoption.
I'm curious about the lance as an obstacle for pedestrians while it's charging. It it durable enough to withstand a heavy person tripping over it? What about liability if it gets tripped over.?
In the last “NowYou Know” episode I watched where someone in Sweden hacked off all the charging cables at a Tesla charging point. If all charging points used this device, I think it would be harder for vandal to damaged charge points. One of my greatest fears is to travel to somewhere and find all the charge points are broken.
Fantastic approach - the market is enormous - and they have the risk management sorted! Assuming the owner controls the power and pays that bill it would be useful if the base had a RFID chip that identifies the lance and connects that to the account of the owner. The user pays for the power with a fee to the owner using a credit card or account. The owner can invite people to use her connection and sign them on. That seems like the best case approach.
Municipal installation in public streets should by default be linked to charge throttling. As a user will usually connect not every day but maybe every two days, an overnight charger session would allow the battery to be quite topped up.
It sounds like they have given good thought to the back office workings and how to incentivize the behavior we desire and penalize/charge fees for those we don't. I think that is great if it is well executed. We all are familiar with terrible charging in America, anything but Tesla, so something needs done to get us straightened out here as crappy charging will slow the switch to ev and give fudsters free ammo! I'm trying to figure out how to get ev charging to my renters in the crappiest ev state in America (S Dakota) so will be following these guys with personal interest. Thanks for the Interview Z-J...
As someone living in Aberdeen it’s great to see a local company interviewed by my favourite YT hosts :) But sadly I have a feeling this will be one of the many inventions that will never catch up :(
Interesting... I thought we'd be seeing more charging integrated into existing infrastructure like lampposts, though I guess these could offer more flexibility. Municipalities should like that the above ground bit is the responsibility of the driver... but will drivers like it?
Unfortunatly I don’t see this working in areas with a lot of snow. Pavements are cleared resulting in pileups of snow that would cover these entry points meaning you would have to dig them out. I don’t see any issue with ice though.
The capability of human innovation is infinite 🙌🏽every time with every upgrade in this systems we are moving towards a fully integrated and functional society respecting the great balance of Nature. 🙉🤩🧠🧠🌄
Very interesting. How are power cables run to the underground unit for residential users? Do they trench from home power panel to this device? To me that would be more difficult than putting the small device in ground.
I'm fortunate enough to live in a city, but also park behind the house, so I was able to have a wall-charger installed. But the closest public parking spots nesr me are on a sloped street. How is this system ment to handle that? Like, in San Francisco for examlpe, would it just stick out at an angle? I guess you can't just make divots all over the sidewalks..
A popular UA-cam Program personality just released a video about the failure of his $95,000 Ford Truck. He had an App that showed him where the free charging stations were at Casinos in Vegas. Will Prowse was very disappointed that most of these ‘Charge Point’ Chargers had damaged nozzles. It was not said, but I surmised that a competitor must of had some dudes go out and damage those Chargers offering free or cheap charging. I’m guessing ’Charge Point’ would love to go into a partnership since they already have the power where they want it. It’s a bad investment to have damaged units out there and I’d everyone had there own Plunger Connection Charge Point would be making much more profit off their infrastructure.
Akward sollution that needs iterations. If you stumble on it in the dark, it won't matter if the parts have smoothly designed edges. The fall itself is what's dangerous. Especially if you happen to crash into it riding a bicycle or Escooter. London UK itself is the most awful and scary place I ever peddled.
Bicycles are not allowed on the sidewalk/pavement. It's for pedestrians. Faster moving people go in the bicycle lane or the street. The charger is illuminated.
Sharing sounds nice, but how to ensure they are not blocking the charge station when you need it? I know from experience when you do people favors long enough it turns from being a favor to being a right they feel they are owed.
Here’s another solution: *The Tesla RoboBattery Micropack:* A self driving EV charger/Powerwall you can order to arrive by app. Charge it up with your solar panels via Wall Connector and Tesla pays you _or_ order one if you need to charge an EV. A mobile microgrid fleet.
I would be more likely to share if there is V2G or V2H. I live in the Midwest USA, but I think this is more of an urban use thing. I can’t picture this in suburban or rural settings, but I could be wrong.
All good and excellent until I heard about V2x through AC. Well, that’s definitely NOT happening, since there are no bidirectional AC on 9 out of 10 vehicles.
Does this devices come with theft proof mechanism? One of these must cost at least a couple hundres $$$$. I can foresee this device as commonly stolen tech.
Great solution, but it takes as a given that the ownership model of cars will not change in the current transition to EVs. If robotaxis become a reality at the cost predicted by Tony Seba, none of this will be necessary. Very few people will actually own a car.
Really bad business model! And won't work. The future is fast charging like Tesla if you can charge in 3-5 mins who's going to pay to install a charger @ 22kw plus you can't guarantee you will get that space every night , plus £99 per month?? , Plus paying for the wand, plus teenagers damaging the wand during the night, plus will the council let you dig up the road? Just too many problems and should have been addressed in the drawing board phase. You will probably get more law suits from people saying they fell over it and will be bogged up with that than anything else. A better idea would be wireless charging but in the word of Dragons Den "I'm Out"!
Yes. Sharing with your neighbor is most efficient and cheapest. So why are we talking about privatized solutions for charging and transportation? Privatizing is by definition *not* sharing. Both Musk and his fans are kidding themselves about saving the planet because their for profit solutions (socialized solutions can have zero or even negative profits) are incredibly wasteful and inefficient. 95% of cars on the road are parked. A socialized solution could theoretically eliminate 95% of the cost. But - self driving as a service! - you say? Yah, so why exactly does Musk get to profit from (and own) all of the data (read: unpaid labor) of every Tesla owner that trains his fleet for free? Every Tesla owner is getting ripped off by Elon because- like all consumers - they don’t own the means of production. And they go along with this because, like Musk, they don’t want to make any sacrifice to save the planet - aka - take the f***in bus! But the bus isn’t on demand? 1) it could be if we socialized Tesla and 2) all public trans is deliberately underfunded in order to sell more cars. (That’s been going on in America for about a century). Use your car to charge the grid or your home? Hey. Here’s a thought. How about instead of using privatized, individualized lithium to power the grid, we use socialized sand and liquid air or metal batteries which would be orders of magnitude cheaper and more efficient. Yah. But then you wouldnt have your fancy car, now woudja?
The problem is, rolling it out for everyone is not going to happen currently. The infrastructure isn't there and it would be a huge waste as most of them would go unutilized. Meanwhile, people want to charge their vehicles today. Oh wait, you're one of those people. Never mind.
Another dream product whose infrastructure set up is too major. How are you getting the power to this little product?? The city would have to dig up the sidewalks to install these, but The entire sidewalk because you still have to run the cables. I wouldn’t invest a cent. And if the city has to pull up the sidewalk, they will probably install their own product. And frankly the pole this is attached to seems like an easy target for vandalism or even problematic for pedestrians walking or riding a bike on the sidewalk.
It looks like it takes power from the owner's residence so that's reasonable. I imagine there are legal obstructions to having the owner run these off their property like this but there's probably the will in the UK to pass legislation to allow these. Probably depends on jurisdiction in the states. Vandalism could be an issue. Pedestrians navigate obstructions in the street all the time so that's not such an issue. Bicycles are supposed to be in the road or bike lanes.
Nice, but this does not solve a major problem. These is not enough earth metals to make all the batteries for as many cars as they need to replace. 2. The electric grid in the US cannot sustain this transformation. Not to mention how bad for the environment it is to extract the metals needed for the batteries, far worse than oil and gas!
These are myths based on thinking from a few years ago. There are plenty of metals for Tesla's nickel and iron-based chemistries. Even lithium is extremely plentiful and the limitation is refining which is why Tesla has built their own lithium refinery. Tesla plans to completely eliminate cobalt from its chemistries which is the root of most ethical, environmental, and economic problems with electric cars. The Electrical grid usage increased by less than half a percent last year from EVs. Even if every new car was electric it would only increase grid usage by 5% per year because it takes 20-30 years to replace all used cars. Solar, wind, and battery storage has actually increased faster than the electricity needs of electric cars.
Coal and gas and oil is larger area than all of solar and wind. Solar and wind take up as much space as a golf course. If you a golfer and triggered by that - think of the area used for Christmas trees. Your comments are dated and false narrative.
@@HughButler35 that depends on the surface. Many places go without sun for weeks at a time. Wind too is often unreliable, and maintenance intensive. Look at how Europe is right now, 10x the electric bills or more in some places, because they are cutting nuclear and fuels too fast.
Simply repeating that wind and solar can't cut it is false narrative. Can I suggest reading Mark Jacobson's book "No Miracles Needed". 99% of the world has enough "fusion" that provide free energy. There are a few isolated spots in the world but a thing called "transmission" help. 😂
In Sheffield UK hardly anyone has a drive or garage: there are tens of thousands of households parking their cars on the street. I don't even have a car, but I'd love one of these chargepoints outside my house that *any* EV could use, not just my neighbours.
In a busy street it can be difficult to find parking and most likely to find other cars in front of your house.
Considering that this device could be considered a “sword” going into the “stone” of the pavement, it should be named Excalibur.
Nice. Still a bad idea to need to haul this huge "sword" around all the time.
I think this is not that much of a bad tradeoff. Still, this is just a gen 1 implementation. They can always improve and minimize the design in the future.
Outside the house - its so rare I can park outside house, this needs to be powered in the same way as the street light systems
This is so awesome technology - Bravo Ian and team at Trojan
Usually neighbours don't park in the same position. So, would it be that a few neighbours have these chargers with a sharing facility so that dependent on where their parked they can have access.
Very compelling conversation.
Doesn't need a peanut butter test. Needs a salt and sand test.
I think this is a really good solution.
People who are saying you can't lug that around everywhere. Remember, this is gen1 implementation, which can be improved upon.
Also, if this gets implemented, as demand and popularity grow, they can partner up with EV manufactures to build the tech needed into the car itself, making it so that you only need the connecting wire to charge from a ground outlet on the pavement. Making it much, much more feasible in the long term, especially in locations constrained with land availability.
Way to go, municipalities could make some serious money with this, park and charge at the same time!
I assume water and gunge is kept out by the air pushed out, when the lance is pushed in- I suppose as he says, a standard technology in the oil and gas industry.
I can see it would work for apartment parking lots where there is no electricity available outside the building.
In Boston there's already folks camping street spots with traffic cones. I can't imagine how annoying it would be to come home to an ICE vehicle in my spot and have to park 3 or 4 blocks away ON TOP of paying for the monthly charge account and the hardware investment.
It's a public road. You may consider it "your spot" but it's not (or you wouldn't need a cone). This is a big problem for this kind of idea.
My spot means the spot where they paid to install this charger.
£99 a month is about 120KW of rapid charging in the UK about 400miles of driving. That is quite expensive before you have spent a penny on electricity even cheap electricity, with no guarantee that you can charge your car. Maybe if it was £20 a month I would consider it.
This is a good idea.
Just need power company to install all over. Very expensive.
I always like 1 time price, not 120/month forever. Everybody can calculate how much it is after 10 years. I use standard ccs 50 kw public charger and I use about 50 euros a month, no home charging, this works fine without 120 a month extra payment. Of course I waste some time when charging, but I have free time to do it.
They mentionned that the "private" solution would be half of the commercial price. Plus the prices may go down if demand go up...
Having lived in a suburban Neighbour hood in Vancouver. The street parking was non reserved and was always an issue not getting a spot in front of our house. Unless your could “reserve”’your spot with a permit from the municipality. Than it might work.
The problem with reserving spots is that they are public roads. Even if the will is there, that can cause legal obstacles. Reserved spaces often leads to inefficient allocation of resources and problems with use by tradesmen, etc.
Ultimately, some sort of wireless charging will be a game changer. It doesn't have to be on the ground. The service could be on a box on top of a pole by the curb. Just pull up and park adjacent to it and it connects wirelessly to the mating point on the side of your vehicle. It would work a lot better than embedded in the ground. It would be easier to service, no dirt, grime,rain, snow, ice, leafs, trash to deal with. With have millions and millions of mailboxes on the curbs already.
The efficiency is too low. That might be acceptable if the infrastructure was there but it isn't even for wired connections even for moderate EV adoption.
Urban areas explicitly do not want more boxes or posts
I'm curious about the lance as an obstacle for pedestrians while it's charging. It it durable enough to withstand a heavy person tripping over it? What about liability if it gets tripped over.?
Cant wait for this to get stuck under literal ice
And if the socket is not powered, you can charge by operating the handle as a pump . . .
At first glance, I thought that was what it was. There have been kickstarters just as dumb.
This is such a great invention! What about different plug types??
In the last “NowYou Know” episode I watched where someone in Sweden hacked off all the charging cables at a Tesla charging point. If all charging points used this device, I think it would be harder for vandal to damaged charge points. One of my greatest fears is to travel to somewhere and find all the charge points are broken.
each charger is supposed to send a message to phone apps like plugshare say if its up and working or not
Fantastic approach - the market is enormous - and they have the risk management sorted! Assuming the owner controls the power and pays that bill it would be useful if the base had a RFID chip that identifies the lance and connects that to the account of the owner. The user pays for the power with a fee to the owner using a credit card or account. The owner can invite people to use her connection and sign them on. That seems like the best case approach.
Municipal installation in public streets should by default be linked to charge throttling. As a user will usually connect not every day but maybe every two days, an overnight charger session would allow the battery to be quite topped up.
It sounds like they have given good thought to the back office workings and how to incentivize the behavior we desire and penalize/charge fees for those we don't. I think that is great if it is well executed. We all are familiar with terrible charging in America, anything but Tesla, so something needs done to get us straightened out here as crappy charging will slow the switch to ev and give fudsters free ammo!
I'm trying to figure out how to get ev charging to my renters in the crappiest ev state in America (S Dakota) so will be following these guys with personal interest. Thanks for the Interview Z-J...
I am in a subdivision, but would consider putting it in in front of my house in my subdivision. I am in Tennessee and not in a downtown type area.
As someone living in Aberdeen it’s great to see a local company interviewed by my favourite YT hosts :) But sadly I have a feeling this will be one of the many inventions that will never catch up :(
Interesting... I thought we'd be seeing more charging integrated into existing infrastructure like lampposts, though I guess these could offer more flexibility. Municipalities should like that the above ground bit is the responsibility of the driver... but will drivers like it?
New homes in California are required to have charging wires in the garage. Might be nice to have extinction to curb too for second car or visitors.
I hope you meant "Extension" not actually "Extinction!" 🤔😳😢
Unfortunatly I don’t see this working in areas with a lot of snow. Pavements are cleared resulting in pileups of snow that would cover these entry points meaning you would have to dig them out. I don’t see any issue with ice though.
And how many sidewalks actually get shoveled? None in my town.
Someone may have asked already, but what about security?
The capability of human innovation is infinite 🙌🏽every time with every upgrade in this systems we are moving towards a fully integrated and functional society respecting the great balance of Nature. 🙉🤩🧠🧠🌄
When plugged in and the pole is up kinda looks like an ashtray
Very interesting. How are power cables run to the underground unit for residential users? Do they trench from home power panel to this device? To me that would be more difficult than putting the small device in ground.
Great idea.
I'm fortunate enough to live in a city, but also park behind the house, so I was able to have a wall-charger installed.
But the closest public parking spots nesr me are on a sloped street.
How is this system ment to handle that?
Like, in San Francisco for examlpe, would it just stick out at an angle?
I guess you can't just make divots all over the sidewalks..
OK 60 e per month for home plus electricity bill. How many times you will charge every month so worth it? Other issue this piece storage?
A popular UA-cam Program personality just released a video about the failure of his $95,000 Ford Truck. He had an App that showed him where the free charging stations were at Casinos in Vegas. Will Prowse was very disappointed that most of these ‘Charge Point’ Chargers had damaged nozzles. It was not said, but I surmised that a competitor must of had some dudes go out and damage those Chargers offering free or cheap charging. I’m guessing ’Charge Point’ would love to go into a partnership since they already have the power where they want it. It’s a bad investment to have damaged units out there and I’d everyone had there own Plunger Connection Charge Point would be making much more profit off their infrastructure.
Great idea! They should sell franchises!
Let me get this stright.
I pay $120/month and pay for the electricty?
What a deal>>>>
Nice. But seems like a stopgap till wireless charging.
Akward sollution that needs iterations. If you stumble on it in the dark, it won't matter if the parts have smoothly designed edges. The fall itself is what's dangerous. Especially if you happen to crash into it riding a bicycle or Escooter. London UK itself is the most awful and scary place I ever peddled.
Bicycles are not allowed on the sidewalk/pavement. It's for pedestrians. Faster moving people go in the bicycle lane or the street.
The charger is illuminated.
Can the connection be done underwater, 1-2 inch deep water ?
A teenager is going to steal these.
Sharing sounds nice, but how to ensure they are not blocking the charge station when you need it? I know from experience when you do people favors long enough it turns from being a favor to being a right they feel they are owed.
ICEing the charge space will be an issue on a public street
Here’s another solution:
*The Tesla RoboBattery Micropack:* A self driving EV charger/Powerwall you can order to arrive by app. Charge it up with your solar panels via Wall Connector and Tesla pays you _or_ order one if you need to charge an EV. A mobile microgrid fleet.
How do you keep someone from stealing your Lance?
I would be happy to share my ev street charger 🔌 with my neighbors
i’m in Philadelphia and would be willing to trial this
I would be more likely to share if there is V2G or V2H. I live in the Midwest USA, but I think this is more of an urban use thing. I can’t picture this in suburban or rural settings, but I could be wrong.
If you have a garage, this doesn't make sense for you. Definitely urban
In USA Trojan name is more related to condoms
The city or electric company can make a profit on these much like a parking meter. How long for return on investment
Trident SMRs to follow.
All good and excellent until I heard about V2x through AC. Well, that’s definitely NOT happening, since there are no bidirectional AC on 9 out of 10 vehicles.
Cute, but I prefer poles.
Not fancy, but cheap and reliable
Does this devices come with theft proof mechanism? One of these must cost at least a couple hundres $$$$. I can foresee this device as commonly stolen tech.
Could someone come by and disconnect the lance out of spite like some try to disconnect EVs for unknown reasons?
Great solution, but it takes as a given that the ownership model of cars will not change in the current transition to EVs. If robotaxis become a reality at the cost predicted by Tony Seba, none of this will be necessary. Very few people will actually own a car.
Subscription model is poison.
When you hook the thing up, go inside to watch your favorite UA-cam videos can someone walk away with your Trojan?
Dirt. A ground level electrical connection is susceptible to contamination.
Really bad business model! And won't work. The future is fast charging like Tesla if you can charge in 3-5 mins who's going to pay to install a charger @ 22kw plus you can't guarantee you will get that space every night , plus £99 per month?? , Plus paying for the wand, plus teenagers damaging the wand during the night, plus will the council let you dig up the road? Just too many problems and should have been addressed in the drawing board phase. You will probably get more law suits from people saying they fell over it and will be bogged up with that than anything else. A better idea would be wireless charging but in the word of Dragons Den "I'm Out"!
Is this a trip or slip hazzard
They're from the UK. There's no doubt they've already accounted for thieving chavs.
@@chaos.corner 😄
Darn fooled! Thought it was a electric generating pump, pump yourself 50 miles in 15 mins never get stranded.
Yes. Sharing with your neighbor is most efficient and cheapest. So why are we talking about privatized solutions for charging and transportation? Privatizing is by definition *not* sharing. Both Musk and his fans are kidding themselves about saving the planet because their for profit solutions (socialized solutions can have zero or even negative profits) are incredibly wasteful and inefficient. 95% of cars on the road are parked. A socialized solution could theoretically eliminate 95% of the cost. But - self driving as a service! - you say? Yah, so why exactly does Musk get to profit from (and own) all of the data (read: unpaid labor) of every Tesla owner that trains his fleet for free? Every Tesla owner is getting ripped off by Elon because- like all consumers - they don’t own the means of production. And they go along with this because, like Musk, they don’t want to make any sacrifice to save the planet - aka - take the f***in bus! But the bus isn’t on demand? 1) it could be if we socialized Tesla and 2) all public trans is deliberately underfunded in order to sell more cars. (That’s been going on in America for about a century).
Use your car to charge the grid or your home? Hey. Here’s a thought. How about instead of using privatized, individualized lithium to power the grid, we use socialized sand and liquid air or metal batteries which would be orders of magnitude cheaper and more efficient. Yah. But then you wouldnt have your fancy car, now woudja?
The problem is, rolling it out for everyone is not going to happen currently. The infrastructure isn't there and it would be a huge waste as most of them would go unutilized. Meanwhile, people want to charge their vehicles today. Oh wait, you're one of those people. Never mind.
Very clever. But I do think the design is kind of boring looking. It looks like a big bicycle pump.
Pretty big thing to be hauling in your vehicle all the time for the rare case you need to DCFC.
Another dream product whose infrastructure set up is too major. How are you getting the power to this little product?? The city would have to dig up the sidewalks to install these, but The entire sidewalk because you still have to run the cables. I wouldn’t invest a cent. And if the city has to pull up the sidewalk, they will probably install their own product. And frankly the pole this is attached to seems like an easy target for vandalism or even problematic for pedestrians walking or riding a bike on the sidewalk.
It looks like it takes power from the owner's residence so that's reasonable. I imagine there are legal obstructions to having the owner run these off their property like this but there's probably the will in the UK to pass legislation to allow these. Probably depends on jurisdiction in the states. Vandalism could be an issue. Pedestrians navigate obstructions in the street all the time so that's not such an issue. Bicycles are supposed to be in the road or bike lanes.
I see lots of broken toes☹️
VERY C@@L! Butt INDUCTION CHARGING PLATES Is A Much Better Solution!!! Thanks 😁😎
Induction charging would be much more convenient but on 75-80% efficient (wasting a fair amount of electricity).
@@TSLApilot Yes. And the infrastructure isn't sufficient for even wired connections so that kind of waste is not going to fly.
Nice, but this does not solve a major problem. These is not enough earth metals to make all the batteries for as many cars as they need to replace. 2. The electric grid in the US cannot sustain this transformation.
Not to mention how bad for the environment it is to extract the metals needed for the batteries, far worse than oil and gas!
These are myths based on thinking from a few years ago.
There are plenty of metals for Tesla's nickel and iron-based chemistries. Even lithium is extremely plentiful and the limitation is refining which is why Tesla has built their own lithium refinery. Tesla plans to completely eliminate cobalt from its chemistries which is the root of most ethical, environmental, and economic problems with electric cars.
The Electrical grid usage increased by less than half a percent last year from EVs. Even if every new car was electric it would only increase grid usage by 5% per year because it takes 20-30 years to replace all used cars. Solar, wind, and battery storage has actually increased faster than the electricity needs of electric cars.
Coal and gas and oil is larger area than all of solar and wind. Solar and wind take up as much space as a golf course. If you a golfer and triggered by that - think of the area used for Christmas trees. Your comments are dated and false narrative.
@@HughButler35 that depends on the surface. Many places go without sun for weeks at a time. Wind too is often unreliable, and maintenance intensive. Look at how Europe is right now, 10x the electric bills or more in some places, because they are cutting nuclear and fuels too fast.
Simply repeating that wind and solar can't cut it is false narrative. Can I suggest reading Mark Jacobson's book "No Miracles Needed". 99% of the world has enough "fusion" that provide free energy. There are a few isolated spots in the world but a thing called "transmission" help. 😂
@@HughButler35 keep ignoring the damage it takes to extract all the green energy... the Elephant in the room.