Pilot Forgets The Landing Gear

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  • @ShehanDyonisius
    @ShehanDyonisius 2 роки тому +5538

    No tires, less drag, quicker arrival and faster package deliveries. That’s why I use FedEx

    • @ItsMadRiv
      @ItsMadRiv 2 роки тому +194

      But when they crash it's no package no , no package , and no package

    • @explorenaked
      @explorenaked 2 роки тому +71

      @@ItsMadRiv Well that one will never have the chance to crash. It's last flight was on WEDNESDAY 18-DEC-2019. Went to the boneyard in VICTORVILLE, CA

    • @themaincrunch8773
      @themaincrunch8773 2 роки тому +93

      Amazon: write that down!

    • @managed9348
      @managed9348 2 роки тому +22

      @@ItsMadRiv can easily perform a go around if necessary

    • @maxlarock8788
      @maxlarock8788 2 роки тому +12

      When then it would equ the same because less drag would make it go faster and stop later

  • @sbblmb
    @sbblmb Рік тому +107

    00:15 Not gonna lie, the DC10 on final approach without an extended landing gear looks mighty fine

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 Рік тому +10

      "Stately" might be one way to describe it. Cruising along like one of the great ocean liners.

    • @sbblmb
      @sbblmb Рік тому +4

      @@marcmcreynolds2827 very fitting, stately describes the elegant, effortless flare perfectly.

    • @sillylittleidiotlol
      @sillylittleidiotlol 6 місяців тому

      was gonna say it's an md11 then realised

    • @planeexpert8145
      @planeexpert8145 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sillylittleidiotlol Yeah because it has no flap things on the wings. It also says it at the start

    • @sillylittleidiotlol
      @sillylittleidiotlol 3 місяці тому

      winglets@@planeexpert8145

  • @mpsangha
    @mpsangha 2 роки тому +1147

    I counted 11 seconds from the final landing gear door to closing to touchdown, that's cutting it pretty close! Not to mention pilots often utilize the landing gear to decrease speed on final!

    • @Incognito-vc9wj
      @Incognito-vc9wj 2 роки тому +15

      Kinda, the landing gear is usually dropped after the plane is on final decent to the runway. Deploying the gear before that, requires too much unnecessary thrust to counter the drag.

    • @OfficialSamuelC
      @OfficialSamuelC 2 роки тому +60

      It was 8 years ago and the pros and FedEx reviewed it and said it was perfectly fine and that the zoom lens exaggerated things.

    • @andy99ish
      @andy99ish 2 роки тому +25

      How so ? Landing gear was out at 0:35 and touchdown was at 0:58. So 23 seconds.

    • @hoghogwild
      @hoghogwild 2 роки тому +45

      @@andy99ish He stated, "11 seconds from the final landing gear door to closing to touchdown". Not landing gear deployment to touchdown. Doors open at 0:20, gear extended and locked at 0:35, doors fully closed at 0:45 with main gear touchdown at 0:58. Those landing gear doors JUST got closed approx. 12-13 seconds before touchdown. Regardless, way too late in the approach.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 роки тому +18

      I live about 5 miles from a major airport, and under the approach for landing the airport usually uses (weather conditions sometimes shift things).
      Basically, the planes put the landing gears down roughly over my neighborhood. We're probably 2-4 minutes (more or less) away from the end of the runway the jets usually land on.
      I can actually hear them put the gears down from inside the house quite often. It's the sound of the world being okay.

  • @NeonVisual
    @NeonVisual 2 роки тому +1365

    Wow, even FedEx's delivery of the landing gear was late.

    • @timthompson8235
      @timthompson8235 2 роки тому +15

      LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    • @hotsauce4960
      @hotsauce4960 2 роки тому +15

      @@timthompson8235 golden comment

    • @MrNobody55555
      @MrNobody55555 2 роки тому +3

      FedEx and Ontrac have been damageing my packages since late November 2020.
      IMO they employ a lot of ANTIFA

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter 2 роки тому +6

      Earlier this year, I had a package coming from Phoenix on FedEx go to Chicago twice before it finally got delivered to me on the 3rd try. It went as far as Rensselaer, NY and Keasbey, NJ before I finally got it. I should get no delayed packages for recording this video, lol.

    • @frankgrimesification
      @frankgrimesification 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrNobody55555 At least the ANTIFA people are working, ,although I guess employment at the carnival selling funnel cake is technically working for you tRUMPIES.

  • @pwdrhound4648
    @pwdrhound4648 2 роки тому +931

    The Fedex MD landing gear incident happened at O'hare about 10 years ago. If recall, the pilot flying had a stroke or some type of a brain condition uncovered after the fact during the medical evaluation. Lots of juvenile comment by those trying to be funny but this was a legit and not all that funny for the pilot involved who I believed never made it back in the cockpit due to his medical reasons.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 роки тому +66

      Oh, crap. That's a shame.

    • @fxpilot1484
      @fxpilot1484 2 роки тому +38

      You are 100% correct

    • @aaaaaa-hh8cq
      @aaaaaa-hh8cq 2 роки тому +24

      Let's pray for his health 🙏

    • @reynaldoflores4522
      @reynaldoflores4522 2 роки тому +28

      But a large, multi-engine plane like that should have two pilots. If the pilot conked out, why didn't his copilot take over?

    • @Brokkolesz
      @Brokkolesz 2 роки тому +52

      @@reynaldoflores4522 there's two separate roles in the cockpit. The pilot flying isn't the one who extends flaps and gear.

  • @polishavgeek1849
    @polishavgeek1849 2 роки тому +1311

    These pilots would get hired by Aerosucre immediately.

    • @tavolandia
      @tavolandia 2 роки тому +3

      🤪

    • @maxakmanish4998
      @maxakmanish4998 2 роки тому +56

      @johnnytheprick it's a crazy airline know for overweighing b-727 and retracting gears too early

    • @desmond4912
      @desmond4912 2 роки тому

      It's actually late

    • @maxakmanish4998
      @maxakmanish4998 2 роки тому +15

      @johnnytheprick safety record uhh I will say between bad and medium more towards bad because of mangement.

    • @garygolfer3243
      @garygolfer3243 2 роки тому +4

      Yup, as instructors.

  • @BL-jt3qt
    @BL-jt3qt 2 роки тому +316

    1:07 - a DC-4 performs an incredibly low takeoff? Yeah, taking off from the ground is about as low as you can get.

    • @mxyzptlyk
      @mxyzptlyk 2 роки тому +19

      Agreed, any lower and it takes much longer to get to 'V1'. And 'Rotate', forget about it it.

    • @andy99ish
      @andy99ish 2 роки тому +10

      You never heard about Mole Aircrafts ?

    • @mxyzptlyk
      @mxyzptlyk 2 роки тому +5

      @@andy99ish Are they the blind ones (no ground-penetrating-radar) but have long radomes and long claws on the landing gear?

    • @stnicholas54
      @stnicholas54 2 роки тому

      Channel tunnel take-off ?

    • @zogzog1063
      @zogzog1063 2 роки тому +14

      That's right. Also the pilot was born at a very young age.

  • @DJMeku
    @DJMeku 2 роки тому +402

    it's not "exceptionally late" - I just sent my daughter to pre-school and she graduated before the plane landed

  • @Sg2hck
    @Sg2hck 2 роки тому +823

    They didn't forget the landing gears, they're just saving the fuel cost..

    • @Techie1224
      @Techie1224 2 роки тому +10

      i believe that too lol

    • @jackhydrazine1376
      @jackhydrazine1376 2 роки тому +21

      The plural of 'landing gear' is...wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...
      'landing gear'!

    • @robertvaughn6646
      @robertvaughn6646 2 роки тому +3

      see my post above. They were not saving fuel.

    • @peterzebot9863
      @peterzebot9863 2 роки тому +2

      @@jackhydrazine1376 He is actually not wrong.

    • @maxakmanish4998
      @maxakmanish4998 2 роки тому

      @@jackhydrazine1376 landing gears😏

  • @nigo1787
    @nigo1787 2 роки тому +9

    that emergency slide... I was almost expecting a couch with a beer holder to pop out

  • @citibear57
    @citibear57 2 роки тому +229

    Seeing the deployment of that emergency slide was interesting It must be quite the art to fold the slide carefully so that it fits into a relatively small space on the exit door, and then correctly unfold if needed. No one wants to see that in real time, but it is comforting to see this impressive safety feature in case of an emergency. Thank you, 3 Minutes of Aviation, for your awesome videos! 👍

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter 2 роки тому +11

      My ex-girlfriend was a gate agent just connecting the jet way to a plane once, the flight attendant forgot to disarm the door, and the slide opened into the jet way. Good thing my ex was still in the jet way driver's cab, otherwise that slide would've thrown her backwards against a wall.

    • @sturmovik5448
      @sturmovik5448 2 роки тому +8

      @@ChicagoAirportSpotter "Flight attendants, disarm AND CROSSCHECK!!!"

    • @ericwalker2434
      @ericwalker2434 2 роки тому +1

      @@sturmovik5448 not to mention the flight attendants shouldn't be opening the door ever anyways unless it's an emergency

    • @francegagnon6123
      @francegagnon6123 2 роки тому +1

      Replier un parachute aussi est tout un ART avec ses trop longues cordes.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericwalker2434 How do people get on and off the plane if the FAs don't open the door?
      The cockpit crew doesn't do it.

  • @ylette
    @ylette 2 роки тому +56

    The last one is so satisfying.

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz 2 роки тому +6

      2:55 that last pop it made 🤤

    • @cinegraphics
      @cinegraphics 2 роки тому

      It took around 12 seconds to inflate.

    • @pugsandcoffeeplease
      @pugsandcoffeeplease 2 роки тому +1

      @@cinegraphics I was like that in my 20s... *sad face*

  • @DaranMakesGoodVideos
    @DaranMakesGoodVideos 2 роки тому +202

    The A400M landing in Kabul was just eerie…what a nerve racking situation

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 роки тому +22

      My stomach knotted up on that one. But the landing was perfectly executed.

    • @CapStar362
      @CapStar362 2 роки тому +21

      they had clear visual indications and probably a military ILS trailer running, and with the enemy nearby in potential places... running dark is the best tactic.

    • @xaf2fe
      @xaf2fe 2 роки тому +15

      We did that for years landing at Bagram in the 747.

    • @visnjamusa9395
      @visnjamusa9395 2 роки тому +13

      They have probably performed so-called "Sarajevo approach", that's why it looks sinking very quickly at the beginnig and PAPI at the beginning shows they're high, but that was their goal to minimize risk of being shot at.
      But I agree with Sarah Albers - the landing was perfectly executed.

    • @CapStar362
      @CapStar362 2 роки тому +1

      @@visnjamusa9395 they could have executed a normal glide slope, being completely dark was their biggest advantage

  • @billcallahan9303
    @billcallahan9303 2 роки тому +41

    Did the landing gear thing in San Juan, PR after a long tiring day. Alert tower guy saved my ass about 50 feet up from landing. Thanks to any ATC guys watching! You're appreciated out here! Mistakes happen.

    • @TheLarsolini
      @TheLarsolini Рік тому +5

      Genuine question from a non-pilot: Isn't deploying the landing gear a part of the landing checklist? "Forgetting" seems like another way of saying you didn't go through the checklist?

  • @Pure_Columbiana
    @Pure_Columbiana 2 роки тому +88

    Aerosucre was like that’s what im talking about

    • @devintariel3769
      @devintariel3769 2 роки тому +1

      "OH NO A FENCE MY GREATEST WEAKNESS"

    • @lawnmowermanTX
      @lawnmowermanTX 12 днів тому

      Aerosucre, the only cargo company that flies anything, any plane and any pilot, that never disappoints. ❤️

  • @ZsomborZsombibi
    @ZsomborZsombibi 2 роки тому +166

    FedEx PM: "can you land without checklist?"
    PF: "hold my beer and watch this"

    • @bumblebeetuna261
      @bumblebeetuna261 2 роки тому +5

      FedEx PM: we drank the beer hours ago.

    • @komrad1983
      @komrad1983 2 роки тому

      /\/\/\ person never heard of "landing checklist complete down to _________ ". You can call checklist complete and postpone one or two items. For example, you do the before takeoff flow and read the checklist but still haven't been cleared to take off and still have no landing lights on. Same thing with gear here.

  • @MrKnuk
    @MrKnuk 2 роки тому +76

    Love all the Aerosucre related comparisions to FedEx. Love this community! Btw as a Pilot myself: I wouldn't be surprised if this was a training flight and the pilot wanted to show the co pilot how late one can still extend the gear. Or he stressed him with other things so much until he was like: "so... how about that landing gear now...?" (while being ready to go around in his mind, of course) and the co-pilot might've been like: "oh shhhhh...... yesssss thanks" and then extending it... I've been in situations like these where instructors (or CRI on check flights) just try to stress you until you forget something deliberately. It makes you not forget it for sure the next time and thus avoiding this situation from ever really happening without someone else being there for you

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab 2 роки тому +2

      O wow .. thsnks for sharing that Mister Knuk
      Sure seems like a possibility

    • @michaelm.1947
      @michaelm.1947 2 роки тому +15

      Someone elsewhere in the comments mentioned that the pilot had a stroke.

    • @richarddavenport9708
      @richarddavenport9708 2 роки тому +4

      Thank god it ended well. It’s sad the pilot lost his medical but did make a nice last landing.

    • @fotogfitzfoto412
      @fotogfitzfoto412 2 роки тому

      The tower should have been yelling at the pilot and someone should have been running out with a Very pistol loaded with a red flare.

    • @TianarTruegard
      @TianarTruegard Рік тому

      Could have always aborted landing. Assuming he didn't get too low and slow.

  • @iantojones4322
    @iantojones4322 2 роки тому +32

    On the 747 overwing emergency slide deployment, did you notice the "barber pole" about halfway down the slide?
    Because it's overwing, the flight attendant can't easily tell if the slide is fully deployed. The red tip of the "barber pole" lets the flight attendant know that it is.
    That's one of the reasons they'll tell you to "stand back" before they let anyone out the emergency exit.

    • @Jaburu
      @Jaburu 2 роки тому +4

      thanks, I always wondered why they tell you that

  • @jjohnston94
    @jjohnston94 2 роки тому +33

    Handrails on an emergency slide? Now that's luxury.

  • @TurboAviation737
    @TurboAviation737 2 роки тому +11

    Pilot be like: No landing gear until the plane itself asks for landing gears
    *whoop whoop pull up pull up*

  • @kkelley85
    @kkelley85 2 роки тому +77

    Didn't forget the landing gear. There was a medical issue that was found after this with a crew member. Happened back in 2012. Fdx no longer has DC10-10s.

    • @massey4business
      @massey4business 2 роки тому +3

      Hahaha! Yup! It's last flight was from Memphis to Victorville. To the old boneyard.. 💀 💀

    • @kkelley85
      @kkelley85 2 роки тому +3

      @@massey4business Sad to see the 10-10 go away. I worked 2 of the last 4 every night for about 3 months. Cleanest jets in the fleet.

    • @gerardpully762
      @gerardpully762 2 роки тому +3

      Was the medical "issue" that of blindness, thus being unable to read the checklist?

    • @OfficialSamuelC
      @OfficialSamuelC 2 роки тому +9

      @@gerardpully762 There was nothing wrong with the landing. It was reviewed by many and is well within allowed ranges, and the zoom lens makes it look much closer to the ground than it actually is. ATC can also ask you to hurry things up and some pilots will do this. Plenty of the pros have timed the gear dropping to even passing the fence and said it’s pretty much within the range of normal, just most commercial airlines expect it to be done sooner. FYI this was 8 years ago.

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager 2 роки тому +2

      @@gerardpully762 Blindness is better than your medical issue.

  • @RyanKusuma
    @RyanKusuma 2 роки тому +5

    Pilot forgets landing gear:
    Spirit Airlines: You’re hired

  • @juanr.155
    @juanr.155 2 роки тому +38

    I showed my dad, a former Aerosucre pilot, this channel. He couldn't help but to laugh at all these videos. Most of those orders come from higher up and if they dont follow them (example: cargo overload) they get fired. PLEASE MAKE AN AEROSUCRE COMPILATION!

    • @CocotusInterruptus
      @CocotusInterruptus 2 роки тому +5

      I'd rather be fired than dead (plus killing other people). As I commented under another recent video, that "airline" should be grounded permanently.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 роки тому +7

      I bet your dad has some great stories!

    • @cinegraphics
      @cinegraphics 2 роки тому +5

      "Anything worth loading is worth overloading"

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter 2 роки тому +2

      We sent out a 747-8F a few years ago that was just about 2,500 lbs below MTOW. That's the closest I've ever come to overloading an aircraft.

    • @visnjamusa9395
      @visnjamusa9395 2 роки тому +1

      Good example: Aerosucre flight 157 - taking off from too short runway with about 1000 kgs heavier than MTOW. What was the choice? Get it in the air or get fired?

  • @michaelmesolellaesq
    @michaelmesolellaesq 2 роки тому +7

    That Kabul one, wow.

  • @Chase615000
    @Chase615000 Рік тому +3

    And this is why you get your Amazon cat toys the same day! Props to those pilots!

  • @grmpEqweer
    @grmpEqweer 2 роки тому +7

    1:16 thanks, my hair needed a trim.

  • @brianhendrie9466
    @brianhendrie9466 2 роки тому +12

    I was in the back of an F4 landing in fog at RAF Wattisham. No automated voices in those beasts but a talk down by ATC. It was just like the A400 landing where they said 5,4.... and we were on the ground with absolutely no visibility. Amazing experience. Not just that, but the F4 🤟

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner 2 роки тому +28

    I've done a few landing lightless landings, but I can't say mine were as smooth as that. Definitely hit the runway a bit harder than I would have liked!

    • @Julmaa87
      @Julmaa87 2 роки тому

      Felt the whole monitor shake did you?

    • @davewestner
      @davewestner 2 роки тому +1

      @@Julmaa87 hahaha.....nah, it was a couple of small single engines....used to do ferry flights and sometimes things weren't working properly. Good times.

    • @wallyballou7417
      @wallyballou7417 Рік тому +1

      My instructor made me do a few. TBH, there's no difference until you're about 10-20 feet off the ground. Then you flare and the lights aren't pointing at the ground anyway.

  • @eddiegardner8232
    @eddiegardner8232 2 роки тому +6

    They were probably distracted by that loud “Gear Up” warning horn.

    • @Tracymmo
      @Tracymmo 2 роки тому

      LOL! Well, there's that

  • @Kavilion_
    @Kavilion_ 2 роки тому +11

    Meanwhile, Ryan Air: "wow, look at these landings!"

  • @Unloadonyou
    @Unloadonyou 2 роки тому +39

    That DC-4 raised the gear so as to not hit the ILS antenna array.

    • @fluffy-fluffy5996
      @fluffy-fluffy5996 2 роки тому +5

      And chop off the filmer’s head. Damn that seemed close

    • @donaldparlettjr3295
      @donaldparlettjr3295 2 роки тому +1

      And the guy just standing there as well

    • @nilspein
      @nilspein 2 роки тому +3

      it is a common practiced short or soft field technique, you TO with full flaps, stay in ground effect and retract flaps to 10°, retract gear, accelerate and then climb away, nothing special

  • @jennybroad1763
    @jennybroad1763 2 роки тому +5

    I spent 20 years in the jump seat (good old days!) watching my husband land Tristars and 747s. I thought they put the gear down at 10 miles to touchdown. Could vary of course but THAT looked a bit exciting!

  • @annecohen8927
    @annecohen8927 2 роки тому +25

    The plane in the first video made a completely flawless landing, regardless. Great job pilots!!! Maybe the pilots of fed express should also be piloting the passenger airlines…..

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 роки тому +4

      Well...if they get FedUp with flying freight...
      I'll get my coat.

    • @1nstantClassic
      @1nstantClassic 2 роки тому +1

      even made a nice adjustment from the cross wind gust right before touchdown

  • @uropygid
    @uropygid 2 роки тому +4

    I got to ride on the last operational flight of the last operational DC-4 in the regular US Air Force. As the engines were starting I noticed a full one inch air gap in my window. I showed the crewman and he just pushed it open and slammed it shut. The engine nacelles looked like a million gremlins had beat them with ball peen hammers. We flew right over the Grand Canyon and attendant thunder storm. What a wonderful ride.

  • @tomjohnson9338
    @tomjohnson9338 2 роки тому +1

    I remember an old DC-8 in the Caymans, probably overloaded and probably not a good idea for that runway length.
    It was barely airborne by the end of the runway (and the seawall). Tucked the gear up and just kept SLOWLY climbing.
    Had a good pucker factor for me watching and I was on the ground.

  • @calcmandan
    @calcmandan 2 роки тому +2

    The late landing gear changed the dynamics of the descent and they had to re-establish their flare. The overwing deployment of the slide was so cool.

  • @Kalvinjj
    @Kalvinjj 2 роки тому +11

    From what I remember about the MD-10 clip, it was discussed that it was more likely a landing gear warning test being performed and they knew very well about it, and planned it all along. (UPDATE: it was actually a medical emergency with one of the pilots More on replies)
    That's just what I remember reading about tho, but anyway I would definitely bet the warnings were complaining like crazy about it too.

    • @kkelley85
      @kkelley85 2 роки тому +4

      It was a medical issue with a crew member. We can do a landing gear warning test with the A/C on jacks for a gear swing. Not on short final.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 2 роки тому +1

      @@kkelley85 That's another one I've heard about that incident indeed, I don't know what is the official one tho, but that is definitely a likely situation.
      In another hand tho they can do this kind of test perfectly safely if all set for it, if the gear is not locked properly in time, they can do a go-around after all. Just requires both pilots to be fully aware.

    • @kkelley85
      @kkelley85 2 роки тому +2

      @@Kalvinjj I maintain those aircraft. It would have to be a flight test card and not a revenue flight. This was a revenue flight. I have pretty good knowledge of what happened.

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer 2 роки тому

      @@kkelley85 Wouldn't a "medical issue" be a bad excuse? Pilots should pilot and not get distracted. Too low and unstabilised is step one in an accident chain.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 2 роки тому

      @@kkelley85 Hmm, I see, nice insight on it. Wonder about the pilot that had that medical emergency then

  • @AAAskeet
    @AAAskeet 2 роки тому +14

    They didn’t forget about the gear because I guarantee you in the cockpit there’s an indicator going off like crazy that the gears not down and they are below a certain speed

    • @Techie1224
      @Techie1224 2 роки тому

      @johnnytheprick
      they normally will go around instead of risking it

    • @billythekid3234
      @billythekid3234 2 роки тому

      The alarm sounds,,,,,,,, sink rate sink rate,,,,,,,,,,,, sink rate sink rate. I;m sure they herd that and said woops!

    • @jim_ginge
      @jim_ginge 2 роки тому

      Exactly, thank you

    • @sanantonio855
      @sanantonio855 2 роки тому

      yeah but the point is that you have to deploy your gear early enough so it doesn't ring. it isn't a checklist, it's an alarm.

    • @gerardmoran9560
      @gerardmoran9560 2 роки тому +1

      the gear warning is based on radio altitude or flap setting, not airspeed.

  • @plutoramachannel7039
    @plutoramachannel7039 2 роки тому +2

    Nice.. love how the gear extended.. love the DC10😍

  • @radudeATL
    @radudeATL 2 роки тому +29

    Pilot: "Landing gear?"
    F/O: "3... green."
    Automation: "30 - 20 - 10"
    *touchdown*

    • @igoceci
      @igoceci 2 роки тому +1

      Why do people always assume the captain is the pilot flying? Mostly it's fifty-fifty

  • @iam_silasantwi
    @iam_silasantwi 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the video

  • @gurukn
    @gurukn 2 роки тому +5

    Here's what I like about this channel : The fact that you are not one of those stupid top 5 channels that do no work, and the fact that you do some research and the fact that you don't do stupid clickbaits. Here's your new subscriber!

  • @gabrielhalston6726
    @gabrielhalston6726 22 дні тому

    There is nothing -- NOTHING -- like the sound of a piston-engine airliner! DC-4s, 6s, 7s and Connies.....the sound of them still roar through my mind when I was a kid in the 1950s and 60s. Beautiful sound (and a beautiful shot of that DC-4, too!). Thanks!

  • @thhomasmarks
    @thhomasmarks 2 роки тому +1

    I so appreciate not hearing a loud blaring voice telling me what to think every microsecond.

  • @Empty7775
    @Empty7775 Рік тому +3

    I’ve worked on that exact MD-10. Actually looks like they did a free-fall emergency gear down.

  • @Tiberius291
    @Tiberius291 2 роки тому +46

    The over the wing emergency slide even had handrails 😊 The landing gear was deployed in reasonable time to me. 🛫 🛬

    • @Sool101
      @Sool101 2 роки тому +6

      Imagine if you jump 2 seconds too early just to get launched by that last little tip.

    • @sanantonio855
      @sanantonio855 2 роки тому

      that's not reasonable time at all.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 роки тому +1

      Wish it had a cocktail cart, but ya can't have everything

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 роки тому

      It was very late. I’d be in the office for a disciplinary if I left it that late.

  • @grandwizard725
    @grandwizard725 Рік тому

    Wow I just subscribed today! I can not believe how great your channel is! Keep it up!❤

  • @c182SkylaneRG
    @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому +2

    I'm willing to bet the landing gear was an ATC call, not a pilot call. The tower controller job is a visual job: you control airplanes by looking out the window and making sure they're okay, and doing/going what/where they're supposed to. Watching the aircraft on final approach and keeping an eye on things like landing gear is part of that job. A quick reminder to the pilot saves boat loads in cleanup costs and keeps the runway open.

    • @troybaxter2916
      @troybaxter2916 2 роки тому

      Nah that's pretty unlikely I'd say. That's more of a military ATC thing. Doesn't usually happen in airline/commercial operations. The most likely scenario in my opinion is that they crew got the "TOO LOW. GEAR" call from the EGPWS.
      It's not impossible that you're correct, but I'd say it's unlikely.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      @@troybaxter2916 Oh, civilian ATC doesn't do that, too? I washed out of military ATC, which is how I knew that much. I just assumed ATC was ATC, since we were working a commercial airport tower. Just happened to be a guard base on the field that operated the tower.

    • @troybaxter2916
      @troybaxter2916 2 роки тому

      @@c182SkylaneRG Ah I see but no, commercial ATC doesn't do gear checks. The only time it's ever happened to me was when I was operating into military airfields.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      @@troybaxter2916 So there's the routine reminder that fixed-gear pilots laugh at, and there's the observation out the window (in good weather, anyway) to see if they notice anything that the pilots might not see ("You have smoke coming from your starboard wheel well", etc.). I know "check wheels down and locked" is unique to military airfields, but I was under the impression the binoculars were more universal. :)

  • @dhc5tech41
    @dhc5tech41 2 роки тому +27

    "performs incredibly low takeoff" Is there any other way?

    • @Fister_of_Muppets
      @Fister_of_Muppets 2 роки тому +7

      I prefer planes to be 30,000 ft in the air before taking off

    • @sheevone4359
      @sheevone4359 2 роки тому +2

      The point is that the plane barely climbed after taking off

    • @Jeff-jg7jh
      @Jeff-jg7jh 2 роки тому

      @@sheevone4359 I'd bet that was in Alaska.

    • @johnnykessinger
      @johnnykessinger 2 роки тому

      most people have no idea what ground effect is lol

  • @mokshamantra
    @mokshamantra 2 роки тому +12

    Pilot "forgets" the landing gear. But extends it anyway.

    • @h.mandelene3279
      @h.mandelene3279 2 роки тому +1

      It's clickbate just to get u to watch..."gotcha to watch!"-Fedex pilot

  • @Latitudedriver
    @Latitudedriver 2 роки тому +1

    On visual approach it’s fully configured and stabilized at 500 feet. It does look like he was inside and below 500 feet above the touchdown zone elevation.

  • @__-fm5qv
    @__-fm5qv 2 роки тому

    Ngl its nice to see varients of the old DC-10 still flying, always loved the look of them.

  • @ronaldmoravec2692
    @ronaldmoravec2692 2 роки тому +3

    I was visiting Glenview, Illinois Naval Air Station many years ago and there was a 10x10 foot sign at the end of runway. One word on it, GEAR. Glenview has built homes on the base now.

  • @stimannzz
    @stimannzz 2 роки тому +33

    DC-4: long lasting aircraft proves how good engineering was (almost) 100 years ago.

    • @evaluateanalysis7974
      @evaluateanalysis7974 2 роки тому +6

      I think aircraft structures were designed differently in those days - strong enough to last indefinitely. Now they are designed to be lighter, but that means that they will eventually suffer from fatigue, so they have to be regularly inspected and will have to be written off after a certain number of flights. It works because of the amount of fuel they save and because after ~30 years the technology will be out of day anyway.

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 2 роки тому +1

      @@evaluateanalysis7974 So what you're saying is engineering is better nowadays which is not surprising. The old "build a bridge that barely stands" adage.

    • @evaluateanalysis7974
      @evaluateanalysis7974 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@sntslilhlpr6601 I think I said "differently".

    • @livelyupmyself1
      @livelyupmyself1 2 роки тому +2

      Those engines sound incredible.

    • @samuelmundula2216
      @samuelmundula2216 2 роки тому +2

      @@evaluateanalysis7974 The other consideration is whether the DC-4 cabin is pressurized. If it's not pressurized then it's not subject to many of the stressors of modern airframes.

  • @gerardosalazar161
    @gerardosalazar161 2 роки тому +1

    When I watch this kind of videos what amazes me is not the videos themselves but the amount on nonsense in the comments section, written by people who have no idea of manuals, performance, type of aircraft, etc, yet the are bold enough to judge actions with the very limited resources they possess but after all they have fun and enjoy what they believe is their moment of glory. How many times I heard the phrase ”Captain so and so has no idea of what he is doing” yet the same person (normally ground staff) would jump readily on his flight. Believe me, pilots know what they do and they do it well because they have families at home to return too.

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 2 роки тому +2

    I love how the camera hovers on the MD's registration number like "You clowns are SO busted!"

  • @bobjohn2000
    @bobjohn2000 2 роки тому +14

    That wasn't a "low takeoff," that was a soft field takeoff.

  • @KH-qy7fm
    @KH-qy7fm 2 роки тому +14

    They made the emergency slide from the giant tongue from the Rolling Stones Steel Wheels tour

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab 2 роки тому

      😂🤣😁

  • @fuadsflkas
    @fuadsflkas 2 роки тому

    That's the latest I've ever seen landing gear go down on an airliner - they usually go down a few miles out. I guess they were having some cool conversation before...anyhow, still cool to see the mechanics close up...

  • @sarge420
    @sarge420 2 роки тому +1

    We had a C-5 do "touch and goes" training at Travis AFB in the mid 80's and forgot to put the landing gear down. Safely landed but hundreds of thousands of dollars later.

  • @3M1L3D1T0R
    @3M1L3D1T0R 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome channel!

  • @quikstop4347
    @quikstop4347 2 роки тому +3

    The gear warning horn went off as the brought the thrust levers to flight idle “...did we miss something?”

  • @pappyodanial
    @pappyodanial 2 роки тому +2

    Man the DC-10 still out there truckin' hard. It had a real rough start in the passenger world with the door issues and subsequent crashes. But once the kinks are worked out, it's clearly a beast of an airplane.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 роки тому

      I used to fly the DC1OS alot leaving from IAD to SFO, LAX, etc. The original DC10 with the lower deck longitudinal galley was a bear. Loved the DC10-30. Great plane.

  • @oldcash
    @oldcash 2 роки тому +1

    2:50 when a naughty thought comes to mind

  • @wacwebber
    @wacwebber 2 роки тому +5

    I’d hate to be the one packing that slide back up

    • @TheUkdan02
      @TheUkdan02 2 роки тому

      Right? I struggle getting the kids little inflatable paddling pool packed away!

  • @Whizify
    @Whizify 2 роки тому +6

    Happens to me everytime in flight sims

  • @breakingewes1316
    @breakingewes1316 2 роки тому +1

    That emergency slide had me 😂

  • @OlesonMD
    @OlesonMD 2 роки тому

    So, what altitude was the altimeter reading when the gear was extended? Were you in the cockpit?

  • @beerbrewer7372
    @beerbrewer7372 2 роки тому +5

    Thank goodness for the EGPWS. The _"too low gear"_ caution saved the crew and aircraft.

  • @jackhydrazine1376
    @jackhydrazine1376 2 роки тому +13

    FedEx pilots really love a clean landing configuration (flaps and landing gear in the upright and locked position)!

    • @splashtonkutcher2010
      @splashtonkutcher2010 2 роки тому +1

      💀💀

    • @robertvaughn6646
      @robertvaughn6646 2 роки тому +1

      B.S.

    • @schm1035
      @schm1035 2 роки тому

      @@robertvaughn6646 I can't find any way to get back to my original comment, so I will have to answer you here and hope you see it.
      There aren't too many details I can give you because those were mostly kept private. What I know is that the next time I went to ground school for recurrent training after this event, this of course was the big hot topic. We spent time in the classroom dissecting this approach and the video, and being told that Fred Smith was pretty angry about it. That's when they told us that the captain had a brain tumor and was having judgement problems. They also were a bit pissed at the F/O for apparently not being more assertive and saying something earlier to the captain. So that made us all have to get more lessons on being assertive while we were in the simulator.
      By the way, if you are who I think you may be, I think maybe you and I flew together on the 727 around 1996 and in that time period. You had a girlfriend in Belgium, right?

    • @robertvaughn6646
      @robertvaughn6646 2 роки тому +1

      @@schm1035 John! Hello ole man! Yes it is I. Your memory is outstanding! I would have just gone over to the -10 by then so I must have missed it. Everything you said makes perfect sense as I did wonder why the F/O didn't say something. I wish there was a way to say hi on another medium. Thanks again for filling in me in on the "rest of the story". If you're in MEM come to the retirees luncheons.

    • @schm1035
      @schm1035 2 роки тому

      @@robertvaughn6646 Are you getting my replies? They seem to be disappearing for some reason.

  • @yabbadabbadoo8225
    @yabbadabbadoo8225 2 роки тому +1

    Also performed an excellent flare to cap off a super smooth landing 10/10 skills

  • @gigupp
    @gigupp 2 роки тому

    Good practice and standards mandate for dropping the la ding gear once you are established in the instruments approach. Usually at 2000 ft. It also helps to decrease the approaching speed to the required margins

  • @davenz000
    @davenz000 2 роки тому +11

    Kelsey from 74 gear talks about FedX planes from time to time, they sound like real cowboys pressured by the company to save every second they can.

    • @schm1035
      @schm1035 2 роки тому

      In that case Kelsey from 74 is wrong. FedEx pilots are completely professional, and although they have schedules to follow, the company puts no more pressure on them than any airline trying to maintain reliability. FedEx is a high class operation.

  • @robertvaughn6646
    @robertvaughn6646 2 роки тому +4

    First that's a bold statement to say "most" airlines require the crew to be stable at 1,000' AGL. Some, including Fedex, use 1,000' AGL in IFR conditions and 500' AGL in VFR conditions so you see this wasn't a big deal.

    • @chrisschack9716
      @chrisschack9716 2 роки тому

      Even calling that stable at 500 feet is pushing it ... looked like the gear wasn't fully extended until 0:34 or so, and main wheel touchdown at 0:58 means less than 30 seconds between the two.

    • @robertvaughn6646
      @robertvaughn6646 2 роки тому

      @@chrisschack9716 Not denying he was "pushing the limit. It would have certainly gotten him a bust or a severe critique on a line check but my point was more directed at the title "pilots forgot" and the caption "most airlines use 1,000"AGL".

  • @SPiderman-rh2zk
    @SPiderman-rh2zk 2 роки тому +1

    I read about a USAF pilot in training who did a wheels-up landing in a T-38. When hauled in by the instructor he was asked why he didn't respond to the frantic calls on the radio to lower the gear. The pilot said he couldn't hear the radio over the sound of the gear warning horn. 🤔😂

  • @mattkeller2466
    @mattkeller2466 2 роки тому +3

    2:47 when it's your birthday and she starts putting her hair in a ponytail

    • @cinegraphics
      @cinegraphics 2 роки тому +1

      Lucky my mind is not dirty, so I have no idea what were you talking about :))

    • @ChicagoAirportSpotter
      @ChicagoAirportSpotter 2 роки тому

      @@cinegraphics 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AB-qn9cs
    @AB-qn9cs 2 роки тому +7

    This is not the pilots forgetting, some airports have noise procedures that require aircraft to lower landing gear at a reduced distance from the threshold. Reduces drag which in turn reduces the amount of thrust required to maintain airspeed for the approach and reduces noise pollution. Very common in London airports.

    • @816928
      @816928 2 роки тому

      I don't think so. FedEx must be stabilized (fully configured and all checklists done) by 1000 feet. There is no way that happened here.

    • @bodan6806
      @bodan6806 2 роки тому

      Mmmmm, no.

    • @816928
      @816928 2 роки тому

      @@bodan6806 This approach was flown exactly by the book??? ok.

  • @larou14
    @larou14 Рік тому

    Wouahhh...DC-4 1947 !!! More strong...I love MD-10 too ! Thank you so much !!! 😯😉✈

  • @jeanettewest
    @jeanettewest 2 роки тому

    Northern Air Cargo was the last cargo airline exclusively made up of DC-4's, they had warehouses in several parts of the U.S. to stock spare parts, and even had a metalshop in Anchorage full-time making parts for the skin of the aircraft. They transitioned to 737's about 8-10 years ago. The whole town of Bethel, AK would rumble when a full loaded NAC plane was taking off; nothing like the sound of big round motors swinging enormous props.

  • @Crickelwood
    @Crickelwood 2 роки тому +3

    Well there you go, didn’t know there was a slide for the over wing door.

    • @skydiverclassc2031
      @skydiverclassc2031 2 роки тому

      I'd be out that door and off the wing before that thing fully inflated.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 роки тому

      Always has been.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 роки тому

      @@skydiverclassc2031 it inflates really quickly in real life, believe me!

    • @skydiverclassc2031
      @skydiverclassc2031 2 роки тому +1

      @@sarahalbers5555 Well, that's good to know. Thanks.

  • @Imnotyourdoormat
    @Imnotyourdoormat 2 роки тому +3

    "Undercarriage lever a bit sticky was it Sir?"..."Why yes as a matter of fact it was."...."Well I wouldn't tell the C/O that Sir.....not if I were you."

  • @gtr1952
    @gtr1952 2 роки тому

    The DC 4 pilot worked for Buffalo Airways in Yellowknife NWT. He's been flying them longer than most of us have been alive!! And I'm 69!! Lot of experience there!! JMHO --gary

  • @Fiona2254
    @Fiona2254 2 роки тому

    They put the gear down at around 500AGL which is way too late. They were listening the CAWS “Landing Gear” for close to a minute, unless the CAWS was disabled.
    (I flew ‘Francesca’ several times both when it was a DC10 and MD10. Retired from service last year)

  • @TakeDeadAim
    @TakeDeadAim 2 роки тому +4

    They didn't forget. There was a horn squawking at them from 1000ft. Likely they were anticipating a go around due to rush hour traffic and just waited until they actually saw traffic ahead of them clear. This is an old video taken at ORD.

    • @gerardmoran9560
      @gerardmoran9560 2 роки тому

      You don't continue an approach without being stabilized by 1,000' even if you may go-around. That means on speed, fully configured and power at target thrust.

  • @OneWorld001YT
    @OneWorld001YT 2 роки тому +4

    2:06 50 40 30 20 10 *bye*

    • @world_shorts.
      @world_shorts. Рік тому

      LMAOOO I FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE BUT WEN I READ YOUR COMMENT I HEARD BYE!!! the plane is probably tired and wants to dip

  • @bangrul74
    @bangrul74 2 роки тому +2

    awesome brother

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video!😸

  • @f10ki
    @f10ki 2 роки тому +3

    How cannot they hear the plane screaming: "landing gear" after they activated flaps?

    • @RajmaPro
      @RajmaPro 2 роки тому

      True

    • @bolt8130
      @bolt8130 2 роки тому

      the plane would shout that out when their really close to land, it wont say that with full flaps extended

    • @sturmovik5448
      @sturmovik5448 2 роки тому

      @@bolt8130 Modern airliners are more often fitted with flap-based gear warning systems. Altitude-based systems do exists, but they're rarer in airliners. Also, they were already low enough at the start of the video to trigger any altitude-based system.

  • @bertg.6056
    @bertg.6056 2 роки тому +3

    Tower may have advised pilot to "expedite landing", which means leave the gear up until the last minute, thus maintaining speed.

    • @domin755
      @domin755 2 роки тому

      definitely not something that happens in the airline world

  • @hasib9919
    @hasib9919 2 роки тому +1

    You call it requirement to do it as save as possible, but I call this landing“Talent“

  • @driftingintoretirement
    @driftingintoretirement 2 роки тому +1

    Love this channel, great videos and insight.

  • @RR-pw5nb
    @RR-pw5nb 2 роки тому +4

    Should call this channel "3 Minutes of Aviation is The Only Experience I Have With Aviation". Another example of someone who has no knowledge of the subject.

    • @tomsa2
      @tomsa2 2 роки тому +1

      OK, make your channel!

    • @ronashman8463
      @ronashman8463 2 роки тому +2

      @RR 211 why aren't you prime minister of the whole damn world?

  • @PitboyHarmony1
    @PitboyHarmony1 2 роки тому +3

    FedEx isnt an 'airline', its a cargo carrier. The company has their pilots drop their gear at less than 500 feet to save fuel, they still have lots of time to react to a failed gear and go around, and they dont have comfy passengers to placate, so a quicker go around throttle is the fine. Yes, cargo carriers pay attention to the mere Kg's of fuel.

    • @schm1035
      @schm1035 2 роки тому +2

      That is incorrect on every point. At FedEx the gear must be down and the plane stabilized for approach before 500 feet while on a visual approach. The limit is 1000 feet for an instrument approach. Then, FedEx is an airline. Carrying passengers is not what defines the term airline. Also, there is no difference in throttle usage for a go-around when carrying passengers or freight. It's all the same. I don't know where you're getting your information, but you need a lot better sources because what you're using now are all wrong.

  • @Aviation-Travel
    @Aviation-Travel Рік тому

    Great clip !! Nice channel 😊

  • @parrotsarnoso1099
    @parrotsarnoso1099 2 роки тому

    wow.....!!! beautiful DC-4 video. !!....they are hard to find now.

  • @Nahyeek
    @Nahyeek 2 роки тому +4

    These pilots would get hired by PIA

  • @ahmetnumanduman8653
    @ahmetnumanduman8653 2 роки тому +3

    That's not that late.

  • @petermcgill1315
    @petermcgill1315 2 роки тому

    There was a Mirage pilot who landed wheels up at Melbourne International in the mid-70s.

  • @TexasHotel1
    @TexasHotel1 2 роки тому

    I want to say thanks you to put the clip which correspond to the title of the vidéo in first not like all other video of compilation. Just thanks for that.

  • @helmutschmacher2100
    @helmutschmacher2100 2 роки тому +7

    I think you have to turn your lights off now to avoid being shot down by friendly weapons left by joe.

    • @benghazi4216
      @benghazi4216 2 роки тому +3

      Joe? The Pentagon does this in every war. It's nothing new.
      But he could have ordered them to drone everything, but they probably would have b*tched and moaned about it to high heavens.

    • @helmutschmacher2100
      @helmutschmacher2100 2 роки тому +1

      Wheres the brainiac comment gone saying 'wrong president'?
      I aint no murican but im pretty sure the T man aint the head honcho right now.

    • @benghazi4216
      @benghazi4216 2 роки тому

      @@helmutschmacher2100 Sure, but if you start the ball rolling without a plan, the one taking over midstream is not gonna have a easy time.

    • @helmutschmacher2100
      @helmutschmacher2100 2 роки тому

      @@benghazi4216 you mean it wasnt possible to chopsaw the weapons and drain all the fluids out of combustion vehicles then fire them up with a brick on the gas pedal? Like i just thought that up while sat on the pan.

    • @benghazi4216
      @benghazi4216 2 роки тому

      @@helmutschmacher2100 Tell that to the Pentagon. They leave everything on site in every war. It has nothing to do with who is president.