I like how Dorns idea behind black templars was basically to tell Sigismund go fuck of and die whit all the weird kids from impirial first and they are now the biggest secseser chapter lmao .
When your father tells you he’s disappointed in you the reaction is usually to try to do better. With the space means ,it’s just taken to a different level, but it’s the same concept.
Ya'll gotta actually read the books lmao. Dorn forgives Sigismund during the Siege of Tierra, gives him control of the Imperial Fist reserves, and tells him something along the lines of, "The discipline is ended. The leash is off. I set you free my beloved. My best son. Do now what you were made to do. Hurt them."
What no, the black templars are the veterens of the fisrs The templars were the elite company of the legion, dorn loves sigasmond, that is why he dissowned and then rewoned him. He dissowned him becues he cared, he couldnt bring himself to banisj him so even while dissowned je wss kept near him. Both have massive respect to each other The black templars are founded by the veterens and more agressive elements of the legion, like the boarding sauads the templar venguard and many more The templars are known to try and protect imprial worlds very efficently and kindly and still can fortify
He just died a failure. Failing to do the one thing he set his life to for centuries. Couldn't even destroy a weakened force being set upon from 2 enemies in different directions.
@@Austinnumber83 Gotta LOVE how you ignore the fact that Sigismund had slowed down due to age and Abaddon only managed to survive because of Warp shenanigans.
Like Father like Son, Dorn repeated the Emperors mistake with Lorgar. He's very lucky Sigismund is also like his Genefather and inherited Dorn's Stubbornness, otherwise he might have gone the way of Lorgar and Horus.
I think Dorn still handled it a lot better than the Emperor. Almost nothing comes close to the amount of humiliation Lorgar felt during the burning of Monarchia
Dorn was mad for the right reasons but executed it horribly. You can extrapolate that most of his anger was from how siggy totally ignored what happened to the word bearers
Bro, Barabas Dantioch passed the same thing with Perturabo and even worse cause Pertu stripped him from his Terminator armor, his rank and exiled him to a forgotten world cause the lost to the Hrüd and aged 3000 years by their powers. Everyone on his legions disowned Barabas and the last thing he did on a Iron Warriors forge world was a mask which he melted on his face to be iron outside and iron inside.
I love dorns character. Starts off as a Chad he eventually starts to realize that he's the dickhead frat boy while playing beer pong against perturabo.
@@stingerjohnny9951 Ah, they were scattered to the stars.... they didn't have a father so look how they act now. E found them well after they had aged up.
To be fair, they were never meant to be. They were meant to be GENERALS. Unconditional love and kindness doesn't make your military unit any stronger, in fact it usually makes it weaker.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 Being dismissive of your soldiers to the point of moral degradation weakens your military. A supportive leader you can trust and who can EXPLAIN why he’s right in a way you understand strengthens it.
But in the end it turned out that Dorn was doing acting like this towards Sigismund to forge him into a cold, caculating warrior and that he still sees him as his son.
Ah, the ongoing cover up of the retcon that changes the BT from the cool, but very "atheist" (regarding the Emperor), Marines into the Empy worshipping whiners.
Dorn is actually my least favourite primarch by a pretty wide margin. There’s nothing about him that’s interesting or unique or sympathetic. He’s just as stupid as stupid gets
I like how Dorns idea behind black templars was basically to tell Sigismund go fuck of and die whit all the weird kids from impirial first and they are now the biggest secseser chapter lmao .
When your father tells you he’s disappointed in you the reaction is usually to try to do better. With the space means ,it’s just taken to a different level, but it’s the same concept.
Ya'll gotta actually read the books lmao. Dorn forgives Sigismund during the Siege of Tierra, gives him control of the Imperial Fist reserves, and tells him something along the lines of, "The discipline is ended. The leash is off. I set you free my beloved. My best son. Do now what you were made to do. Hurt them."
Even better is that the modern imperial fists only exist due the charity of their successor chapters, such as the black templars.
What no, the black templars are the veterens of the fisrs
The templars were the elite company of the legion, dorn loves sigasmond, that is why he dissowned and then rewoned him. He dissowned him becues he cared, he couldnt bring himself to banisj him so even while dissowned je wss kept near him. Both have massive respect to each other
The black templars are founded by the veterens and more agressive elements of the legion, like the boarding sauads the templar venguard and many more
The templars are known to try and protect imprial worlds very efficently and kindly and still can fortify
@@agentoy6065 👆🤓
"But father... Grandpa himself said he's not a god..."
The emperor never wanted to be seen as a god from the beginning and never wanted praise. He just wanted what was best for his people.
@@spidey2191 looks at all the slaves and mass murder in the imperium.
God I'd hate to see his worst lol.
I don't understand this comment. Are u saying that Dorn told Sigismund that the emperor was a God??
@@michaelthomas9802 yes, because that's what the video said. Unless he misspoke which make my comment invalid
@@patrickpromen3605 he didn't misspeak, you misunderstood. It literally says Dorn disowns the Sigismund for believing the emperor is a God.
And Sigismund earned his honor back in the end! He did not die soulless. Honourless. Weeping. Or Ashamed.
Unlike Horus 😤
@@war_designer8763 *unlike that weakling Horus
He just died a failure. Failing to do the one thing he set his life to for centuries. Couldn't even destroy a weakened force being set upon from 2 enemies in different directions.
@@Austinnumber83 Abaddon won't sleep with you bro
@@Austinnumber83 Gotta LOVE how you ignore the fact that Sigismund had slowed down due to age and Abaddon only managed to survive because of Warp shenanigans.
Like Father like Son, Dorn repeated the Emperors mistake with Lorgar.
He's very lucky Sigismund is also like his Genefather and inherited Dorn's Stubbornness, otherwise he might have gone the way of Lorgar and Horus.
I think Dorn still handled it a lot better than the Emperor. Almost nothing comes close to the amount of humiliation Lorgar felt during the burning of Monarchia
Dorn: Shame on you son, you are hereby disowned. I'll see you at family dinner tonight
And thus, lunacy began.
PURGING WITH MY KIN
Dorn was mad for the right reasons but executed it horribly. You can extrapolate that most of his anger was from how siggy totally ignored what happened to the word bearers
@@user-ov8mo3ko9git runs in the family, like father like son.
Seems bad parenting runs in the family.
Sigismund: notice me father!!!
Dorn: No f no
The only person that could clap the cheeks of the Templar's and be thanked for it
In W40k best SM characters are those rejected by their Primarchs.
Barabas Dantioch
Sigismund
Ryalnor ...
Also Garro and Loken, and to a lesser extent, Amit
Ahriman to an extent as well
@@lokensicarius9347 Obligatory: "Fuck Erebus" but go on
And he was embraced again by Dorn when Dorn took his leash off and said "Go my son, the leash is off, do what you're good at. HURT THEM."
When was this?
Bro, Barabas Dantioch passed the same thing with Perturabo and even worse cause Pertu stripped him from his Terminator armor, his rank and exiled him to a forgotten world cause the lost to the Hrüd and aged 3000 years by their powers. Everyone on his legions disowned Barabas and the last thing he did on a Iron Warriors forge world was a mask which he melted on his face to be iron outside and iron inside.
And then he caused the tyranids
this is the real rage the templars carry
Rp voice actor did a great job acting this scene
Wdym?
@@Vestolord because I love this guy, he is doing a great job
Well, that backfired. 😂😂😂
I love dorns character. Starts off as a Chad he eventually starts to realize that he's the dickhead frat boy while playing beer pong against perturabo.
Now I see where the black templars got it from
Goodly explained
Any other space marine and they would turned traitor and wrecked the legion. Siggy was a gigachad from start to finish
NO PITY, NO REMORSE, NO FEAR!
I thought the thumbnail was Homelander ngl
Nice
To be fair Siggy was still a great champion after this
@@Rick-bc8ltbut siggy ignored what the path he was going on would lead to, look at the word bearers. Siggy should've known more and known better
Common Dorn L
Imagine if Lorgar saw this happen 😂
Brutal
truly the saddest moment
None of these men are good fathers....
Look at who THEIR father was
@@stingerjohnny9951 Ah, they were scattered to the stars.... they didn't have a father so look how they act now. E found them well after they had aged up.
@@trevorp875 And how did he handle those introductions?
To be fair, they were never meant to be. They were meant to be GENERALS.
Unconditional love and kindness doesn't make your military unit any stronger, in fact it usually makes it weaker.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 Being dismissive of your soldiers to the point of moral degradation weakens your military. A supportive leader you can trust and who can EXPLAIN why he’s right in a way you understand strengthens it.
L Dorn, ma Boy Siggy was the true Emperor's Champion
So this is where alot of ppl made Emperor of mankind into a god and having religion
But in the end it turned out that Dorn was doing acting like this towards Sigismund to forge him into a cold, caculating warrior and that he still sees him as his son.
Because dorn cares~ ❤❤❤❤❤
Based Dorn
Dorn should've pointed out what happened to the word bearers too
L dorn
Dorn goes MIA and the Black Templars still kicking 10 millennia later. I say Sigismund was more based
Ah, the ongoing cover up of the retcon that changes the BT from the cool, but very "atheist" (regarding the Emperor), Marines into the Empy worshipping whiners.
Name the song?
If youd open the description, youd see!
Dorn is actually my least favourite primarch by a pretty wide margin. There’s nothing about him that’s interesting or unique or sympathetic. He’s just as stupid as stupid gets
Honestly i think that was dumb on dorns part i think this is what eventually led to the religion going out of control
Dorn was right lol