Kierkegaard: An Introduction

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  • The 19th century Danish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard is best known for giving us the concept of a leap of faith. He was a deeply religious thinker, but his ideas have as much relevance for secular lives as Christian ones. He was the grandfather of existentialism, a purveyor of authenticity, and of discovering, amid conflicting beliefs and the demand to conform to the rules of society, who you really are.
    Although he was born in 1813, his works were not widely read in English until the middle of the twentieth century.
    He published Either/Or, his most famous work in 1843, and in it, through an array of pseudonyms and fictional characters, he discusses competing and contradictory ways one might live life. Should you live for the moment? Seeking pleasure? Or should you live for the interesting? Should you live dutifully? Ethically? Should you conform to the rules?
    He suggests there are three stages of life, three spheres of existence: the aesthetic, the ethical, and the religious. Some of the key concepts are reflective aestheticism, the rotation of crops, subjective truth, passion, and, of course, Christianity.
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    Sources:
    Kierkegaard: An Introduction, C. Stephen Evans
    Robert Ferguson, Life Lessons From Kierkegaard
    Soren Kierkegaard, Either/Or
    Soren Kierkegaard, The Essential Kierkegaard
    plato.stanford.edu/entries/ki...

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  • @ThenNow
    @ThenNow  3 роки тому +14

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      @puppetperception7861 3 роки тому

      More Heidegger

    • @simplycvrsive
      @simplycvrsive 2 роки тому

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      Your videos feel like I'm actually experiencing what you're telling me.

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    @polybius3609 3 роки тому +39

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    @piratepartyftw 3 роки тому +33

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  • @eorobinson3
    @eorobinson3 3 роки тому +8

    What Soren Kierkegaard was criticizing was our obsession with absolutes and how absolutes don’t matter because they serve as pull down forces-as concrete weight on our ability to move, a kind of negative gravity, an obstacle to action...

  • @christopherbrennan4858
    @christopherbrennan4858 3 роки тому +17

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  • @pocketsand6776
    @pocketsand6776 3 роки тому +10

    First! Just finished reading Claire Carlysle's bio on Kierkegaard and loved it. Can't wait to watch this~!

  • @ollie6133
    @ollie6133 3 роки тому +67

    Great video. Fyi, the 'gaard' part of 'Kierkegaard' is pronounced as 'gore'. My dad is Danish and he was very disappointed that I pronounced it 'gard'. Anyway, keep up the great videos.

    • @andycraft1000
      @andycraft1000 3 роки тому

      I think 'aa' in the Danish language is the old version of the modern Danish/Swedish/Norwegian letter 'Å'. It is pronounced the same way, but the 'aa' spelling has since been replaced. I don't think anyone spells anything with 'aa' anymore, but it is left in some Norwegian and Danish names (I don't think Swedish has ever used 'aa'), of people and places.

    • @krvr989
      @krvr989 3 роки тому +5

      But let's be honest. At least for people who are not speaking danish, reading it as "gaard" instead of "gore" is way cooler. "gore" sounds like the baby version Kierkegaard to me.

    • @rvcurryiv
      @rvcurryiv Рік тому +7

      As if actually saying Kierkegaard out loud in the presence of other people wasn't pretensious enough. Looks like I've some fun conversations coming up.

  • @edwardbackman744
    @edwardbackman744 3 роки тому +10

    I like the presentation coming from two different ‘characters’ very cool

  • @freealien5586
    @freealien5586 2 роки тому +2

    Just found this channel.
    Thank you universe!
    My friend your voice is money.
    Great job.

  • @marqpsmythe228
    @marqpsmythe228 3 роки тому +5

    No regrets about watching this

  • @kelvikpineda9923
    @kelvikpineda9923 3 роки тому +18

    Im reading Camus' The myth of sisyphus. This should be helpful. :)

    • @waahaah861
      @waahaah861 2 роки тому

      So now you have 2 non-contemporary understandings of Kierkegaard.

  • @LuisPerez-tx5jo
    @LuisPerez-tx5jo 3 роки тому +4

    Really love your video essays. I watch them over and over. Once back at work in near future will definitely support you on patreon.

  • @brassen
    @brassen 3 роки тому +6

    "the individual who is gripped by the PROPER kind of passion"
    ... my mind goes: "Well, mine may not be proper but they're not PASSION passions anyway"

  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh 3 роки тому +22

    This was great. Keep up the good content

  • @imperishablestuff8758
    @imperishablestuff8758 2 роки тому +2

    Wow.. I love the intro of this video. Brilliant !

  • @gorequillnachovidal
    @gorequillnachovidal 3 роки тому +5

    Kierkegaard is the man!

  • @mdl13
    @mdl13 3 роки тому +8

    I like how Wittgenstein plays on Kierkegaard's own idea of a tightrope walker saying, "An honest religious thinker is like a tightrope walker. He almost looks as though he were walking on nothing but air. His support is the slenderest imaginable. And yet it really is possible to walk on it." I think that in essence is the leap of faith, balancing existence in an incredibly uncertain fashion. Knowing S.K's stance in Fear and Trembling as well, reason and certainty can only go so far and needs to be sacrificed in replacement for faith. Then the payoff is unknowable until it appears in reality out of virtue towards absurdity. That's the beauty of Christianity and being a Christian in my opinion.

  • @danielvermeulen4433
    @danielvermeulen4433 3 роки тому +3

    As a philosophy student just starting out after my history major this channel really helps!

  • @selimword25
    @selimword25 3 роки тому +2

    Incredible work, love the format!

  • @Phi792
    @Phi792 3 роки тому +3

    yeeesss i've been waiting for this!! :D thank you

  • @quartzstatistics
    @quartzstatistics 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for your concern to explain the works of Kierkegaard the analysis and in the way how it relates and should and could be applicated in theory and pratical way.

  • @mariussucan8851
    @mariussucan8851 2 роки тому +1

    Looking forward to the announced video

  • @chaueter1041
    @chaueter1041 3 роки тому +2

    Love the new style!

  • @emilio_mlx
    @emilio_mlx 3 роки тому +5

    I'm all ready - my paper on Heidegger's authenticity is due by the end of the month! Btw, I'm still of the opinion that authenticity is a misleading translation of 'Eigentlichkeit', but perhaps I just never understood / properly thought about authenticity in the first place.

  • @StrangeCornersOfThought
    @StrangeCornersOfThought Рік тому

    This channel deserves like 10 million subs.

  • @kinawinkelstrahle2431
    @kinawinkelstrahle2431 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful! Thank you very much! 🙏😀🥰

  • @adrian-florinbrad8069
    @adrian-florinbrad8069 10 місяців тому

    Why does this have so little views? Great stuff

  • @MichaelBossetta
    @MichaelBossetta 3 роки тому +5

    Ended up here from your video Neuropolitics, out of interest - really enjoyed both videos! The graveyard where you shot looks alot like the one where Kierkegaard is buried. I don't know if that was intentional, but it's a really nice touch either way. Check it out one day if you make it to Copenhagen - it's called Assistens Kierkegaard. Beautiful place. Keep on keepin' on!

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  3 роки тому +1

      Had no idea! Thanks, hope to visit one day

  • @jaysingh05
    @jaysingh05 7 місяців тому

    Great stuff - Kierkegaard is one of my favorites if not THE favorite thinker of them all.

  • @heartache5742
    @heartache5742 3 роки тому

    long time coming!

  • @MattStranberg
    @MattStranberg 3 роки тому +1

    You're amazing, thank you!

  • @drbonesshow1
    @drbonesshow1 2 роки тому +1

    Kierkegaard's Cookbook was titled: From the Frying Pan to the Fire.

  • @alexanderthedude5474
    @alexanderthedude5474 3 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic video

  • @1Dimee
    @1Dimee 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic as usual

  • @tommymots
    @tommymots 3 роки тому

    Beautiful Video.

  • @eternaldelight648
    @eternaldelight648 3 роки тому +2

    A great one!

  • @schmiddy1473
    @schmiddy1473 2 роки тому +2

    I love what you do mate, thanks so much

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  2 роки тому

      Thank you for saying :)

  • @graemelaubach3106
    @graemelaubach3106 3 роки тому +2

    You're the best ❣️

  • @adam7763
    @adam7763 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video my dude.

  • @radiantchristina
    @radiantchristina Рік тому

    A glass of wine with McD's ...I'm here for it 🤗🤓💕
    I'm just starting to get into Kierkegaard. Thanks for the video.

  • @AlbertaGengar
    @AlbertaGengar 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @vu3atg835
    @vu3atg835 2 роки тому

    How do you talk like this....it's philosophy yet grounded

  • @jonfischer2203
    @jonfischer2203 3 роки тому +1

    Love your videos man : -)

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ 3 місяці тому

    Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 17:51

  • @DEUSexPOLSKA
    @DEUSexPOLSKA 3 роки тому +4

    Christian existentialism finally

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 2 роки тому

    Your explanations are great, you take the abstract and turn it concrete and refreshingly you speak slowly and deliberately which is important when I'm trying to understand what the hell Kierkegaard is talking about.

  • @user-kv6ki9ge2z
    @user-kv6ki9ge2z 3 роки тому +2

    Okay not gonna lie that's a delicious dinner. Red wine. Fries. Chicken nuggets.

  • @kennethgraves9662
    @kennethgraves9662 2 роки тому

    Might I inquire why you chose Delibes? Great intrigue music for the era!

  • @bastianflimm825
    @bastianflimm825 Рік тому

    probably my favorite educational video on tube, but having said that, this is my first video from the then and now channel, so just forget what I just wrote ...

  • @iARAVIND666
    @iARAVIND666 3 роки тому +4

    Great introduction. I have wanted to read Kierkegaard for some time now (ever since I read The Denial of Death in which Becker keeps quoting him in almost every chapter). Which of Kierkegaard's works would be the best to start with for a beginner?

    • @LarsPallesen
      @LarsPallesen 2 роки тому

      Either/Or

    • @beluga2841
      @beluga2841 2 роки тому +2

      Fear and trembling

    • @juvenalhahne7750
      @juvenalhahne7750 8 місяців тому

      Pelo amor de Deus! Essa coisa de iniciante não existe! Quando a Kierkegaard então que atacou literalmente a igreja dinamarquesa como sendo uma farsa... pergunte-se se isso não nos atinge a todos e cada um em nossa zona de conforto...

  • @evillano
    @evillano 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the awesome introduction to an awesome thinker! What’s the musical piece in the end?

  • @frederiktygesen
    @frederiktygesen 2 роки тому

    great job! aestatic is all about eating fries and drinking wine

  • @tonibael
    @tonibael Рік тому +1

    Good stuff man I'm a kierkegaard scholar and I could say that you did an excellent job explaining! Keep it up!

  • @kennethgraves9662
    @kennethgraves9662 2 роки тому

    I didn't look up to see you sitting there with a tasty beverage in hand until halfway through the video! Cheers!

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated Рік тому

    Not one I've read much, but probs will have to check him out.

  • @waahaah861
    @waahaah861 2 роки тому +1

    Doesn't Climacus rail against the Socrates analogy in Philosophical Fragments?

  • @mylesjeffers6148
    @mylesjeffers6148 3 роки тому +1

    Good video! For me a good life is committing myself to the tried and tested wisdom of human health, physical, mental, and spiritual. And also staying totally open and fluid, ever changing, never calcify.
    If people like this channel, definitely check out plastic pills.

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 5 місяців тому

    How am I to maintain passion day in and day out ?

  • @devonashwa7977
    @devonashwa7977 3 роки тому

    god dam i love kierkegaard so much

  • @eorobinson3
    @eorobinson3 3 роки тому +1

    Awww sheeiiiiit, here we go!!!!

  • @radioactivedetective6876
    @radioactivedetective6876 3 роки тому +3

    Am I the only one, or does the sketch of Kierkegard's face at 1:04-1:06 look somewhat like an old-timey version of the narrator's face???
    p.s. it is the hairline I think

  • @Kaylersstareye
    @Kaylersstareye 2 роки тому

    Ding here's your bell
    Studied at the Zach de la Rocha school of thought on account of
    I won't do what you tell me 😂
    Solid upload nonetheless 👏

  • @tinylinkCC
    @tinylinkCC Рік тому

    14:53 - inspirerational

  • @clive-live
    @clive-live 2 роки тому

    I am developing and love your soul

  • @raffaello333
    @raffaello333 3 роки тому

    Can you please tell me the title of the song?

  • @brickproduction1815
    @brickproduction1815 3 роки тому

    I am currently writing a philosophical fiction based mainly on Objectivism and my own ideals but I do want to understand other thoughts as well. One would be this in which is confusing at the start and the other would be nihilism which I hope you could explain. If it is okay could I give you my book?

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 3 роки тому +1

      I hope you can make a good fairy tale.

    • @bret6484
      @bret6484 3 роки тому

      So nihilism is the will to nothing. It is the view that there are no objective values to the universe and thus it is pointless and hopeless to fabricate values. Existentialism is basically saying you are responsible for finding and/or creating your own values for life. If you would like any more information or would like some help with the book let me know and Id be interested in helping.

    • @brickproduction1815
      @brickproduction1815 3 роки тому

      @@bret6484 Thank you! My book is actually releasing this coming 31st May! I mainly just stick to objectivism so I didnt wrote much about the other

    • @bret6484
      @bret6484 3 роки тому

      @@brickproduction1815 how exciting, what is it called?

    • @brickproduction1815
      @brickproduction1815 3 роки тому

      @@bret6484 Thank you. Its called First under heaven by my pen name M.A Amru

  • @raghavmangalapalli3547
    @raghavmangalapalli3547 3 роки тому

    man's looking good in that suit 0_0

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 Рік тому

    Why is long term better than short term? How do you measure whats short or long?

  • @newyardleysinclair9960
    @newyardleysinclair9960 2 роки тому +1

    8:03 what is that song in the background?

  • @adamkimara6919
    @adamkimara6919 2 роки тому

    Have you ever considered reading Lev Shestov?

  • @talalamjad9535
    @talalamjad9535 3 роки тому

    👏

  • @fierypickles4450
    @fierypickles4450 2 роки тому +1

    Your voice reminds me of an octave away from neil gaiman

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 Рік тому

    Things balance out in the afterlife, in that sense Hegel is correct.

  • @fatfrreddy1414
    @fatfrreddy1414 Рік тому

    music's too loud...

  • @DL-rl9bd
    @DL-rl9bd 2 роки тому

    Tonight for dinner I’m having McDonald’s with red wine.

  • @CollectionLearning.
    @CollectionLearning. 3 роки тому +1

    I am a mountain climber

  • @kristymercier9092
    @kristymercier9092 Рік тому

    How do you know what to do? You were referring to ethical issues. You said all of those things seem to come from outside of you so how do you know it’s you. It’s simply not true. Most of us have a basic human level inside us that informs us what is just or unjust. Regardless of our beliefs. Most of us can feel when something is right or when something isn’t quite right. We shouldn’t operate solely out of our feelings and allow them to drive the car.
    I’m a christian. The Christian life transcends ethical living. It transcends you. It’s what it’s all about. Holding others in a higher regard than you do yourself. The Christian life isn’t about pleasure or things. It’s solely about loving others & treating others as you would desire to be treated. Their own behaviors & treatment towards you is irrelevant as in it doesn’t change who you are & how you will respond & treat them in return. The Christian life calls you outside of yourself. You are always transforming into a better version of you. No legitimate & serious Christian life should be stagnant.
    How do you know what to do? That is the beauty of the Christian life. We’re not living life double minded. We’ve chosen. We jump off the bridge of faith every day.
    How do you know what to do? You do the thing that requires faith. You live your life to be a servant & not live to be served.
    When most people are searching through philosophical literature they are simply peering through the eyes of another weighing their perception of the world against their own.
    The best philosophical literature does nothing to stir the soul or speak to the spirit. It’s not life giving. If the reader adopts the same outlook, that is all there is to it. It will not transform the reader into a higher version of themselves.
    The truth is not one of us are capable of changing ourselves. We can pick up better habits perhaps. We can gain knowledge & wisdom. But, you’ll still be you. With better habits & more worldly knowledge. The individual cannot experience true transformation. The one who reads the scriptures alone will not experience transformation either. They will still remain as they were.
    The reason for this is that it is not achieved through might, nor by power but by Spirit. Humans are spiritual beings possessing a soul & a body. Life of the body is in the breath. Life of the spirit never dies not even after the body breathes its last.
    We transform by the spirit. The meaning of this life is to leave the world transformed. Prepared for the eternal life. A double minded man will not be prepared for life eternal.
    Shall you reach the end and still not know what to do? Will you reach the end of your life, not knowing who you truly are and where you came from? Will you leave this life confused on how to live & treat others? Will you leave this life without reaching the highest version of you? Will you leave this life to enter into your eternal life still not knowing how to love?
    Worse, will you leave this life to face your Creator, the Father, having failed to be taught by Him? Or to know Him?
    The reason people are confused or not sure what do is because they’re attempting to live life in a way they were not created for.
    You’re a spirit being. It’s the part of you that always is and will always be. The body is perishing as you read this. All that we see will pass away. Including heaven & earth. Yet, people concern themselves with everything that doesn’t matter and neglect the only thing that does & will matter.
    Living life double minded is to live life like a mad man. Out of touch with reality. Who doesn’t know what to do. So he does whatever his minds tell him to do. Plural. For he’s always going back & forth. Isn’t it what a mad man does all the time? He goes back & forth?
    That is what the godless man lives like. There’s no sense of Life. Only a life that his senses & his double minds calls him to. Truth will always allude this man & deception will become him & his friend.
    I consider that the most important decision a man or woman will ever make isn’t what to do. The most important decision is if he will live by faith or if he will rely on his senses & double minds to lead him wherever it may be. No matter where that may be, he’ll arrive & leave there without having any lasting transformation. He may leave in a better state than before or worse.
    However, he’ll have not transformed past his intellect or senses & may come back with just another mindset that’ll rival with his others. He will once again find himself like a madman searching to & fro going back & forth. He will continue to always come back to searching for he has yet to what he craves most… transformation… truth… oneness with self and his surroundings. He will not obtain everlasting change, which is transformation & solidarity until he chooses the way in which he was created.
    His only peace will come from outside of himself. He will recognize this & spend his life striving to control the uncontrollable. In turn, he’ll not bear much good fruit.
    This man most often finds the answer to what he should’ve done as he is perishing taking his last breaths.

  • @nabeelmk1804
    @nabeelmk1804 2 роки тому +2

    Adore your work, but the constant secularization of Kierkegaard's thought was a serious bummer. It may not match your sensibilities, but the lifeblood of his philosophy was his turn to religion

    • @405servererror
      @405servererror Рік тому +1

      The problems when atheists try to interpret Kierkegaard and bending his thoughts to their wordlview. Kierkegaard would see so much despair in this video.

  • @aaronstately
    @aaronstately 3 роки тому +1

    your sound levels could have been better... bet you regret that.

  • @josephkneale3265
    @josephkneale3265 3 роки тому

    if hes not drunk then hes a good actor

  • @alexander-bs5wi
    @alexander-bs5wi Рік тому

    15.00

  • @FD-rt3rv
    @FD-rt3rv 3 роки тому +4

    Excruciatingly irritating to listen you to speak and eat/drink at the same time. Other than that good work

  • @adamdominguez656
    @adamdominguez656 Рік тому

    Wine isn’t a philosophy drink

  • @SuperKala77
    @SuperKala77 2 роки тому

    I cannot imagine a study of Kierkegaard under the M-Burger and specific brand wine.....advertisement ?...... Kierkegaard Philosophy...................? I am sorry !

  • @artemismoonbow2475
    @artemismoonbow2475 2 роки тому

    Kierkegaard himself was deeply Christian, but he has more in common with the mystics of all traditions than he does with his mainline co-religionist. He was personally and culturally informed by Christianity, but he was a left-hand path mystic above all else. A pagan, an Atheist, a Daoist, a Hindu...etc, and et al, can all read the grandfather of existentialism and see something relatable.

  • @josephpugh1331
    @josephpugh1331 2 роки тому +1

    God damn, the wine drinking at the beginning is fucking distracting.

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 5 місяців тому

    Why is this so groundbreaking? Why is Kierkegaards leap of faith so groundbreaking? Being a Christian, or any religion, has always been called faith, never Cristian proof. I dont get it.

  • @marolibez
    @marolibez 3 роки тому +2

    What a pitiful way to waste an innocent bottle of wine... :( That's such a disgrace, that's so Kierkegaardian ;)

  • @kaansancaktarmusic
    @kaansancaktarmusic 3 роки тому +4

    Wine and mc donalds??

    • @AnaLuizaHella
      @AnaLuizaHella 3 роки тому +1

      Yuk! Seriously, I have eaten three of these McDonald's garbage for there was no alternative.
      It's hard for me to understand how can people like it.
      The fries taste like plastic and the "meat"....
      I wanted to know if I was the only one who noticed it.
      Thank you for posting it.

    • @Bojoschannel
      @Bojoschannel 3 роки тому +4

      It was clearly a joke regarding Kierkeegard's stages of life. No one eats McDonald's out of their own volition unless it's a out of necessity or if you're an american

    • @AnaLuizaHella
      @AnaLuizaHella 3 роки тому

      @@Bojoschannel There are people who really loves, seriously, love this garbage. I also thought about it but the sight of this things makes me sick to my stomach. I've stopped watching.

    • @vandaylen
      @vandaylen 3 роки тому +1

      so aesthetic

    • @lucqq3792
      @lucqq3792 3 роки тому +2

      @@AnaLuizaHella or we just.. like the taste of it?

  • @renatosilva5304
    @renatosilva5304 2 роки тому

    As an American I couldn't help noticing the unfortunate choice o meal to go with the red wine. With all the choices of healthy and delicious food available in London, you eat McDonald's dude?
    Moreover, that closeup at the chicken nuggets box is a classic subtle product placement, a technique of madison ave advertise agencies very well known in America.
    I urge you to watch the documentary "The future of food" and I guarantee you will never eat that garbage ever again until the day you´ll die. Fast food is the reason diabetes is a worldwide pandemic that kills millions a year, with 30 million full blown type 2 and 90 million pre diabetics in the US alone.
    I don't mean to judge your choices, it is just a constructive criticism as a fan of the channel and wishing you a long an healthy life. You really don't want to reach 55 and find out where your liver is when it is too late. You are too intelligent to eat that. Cheers my friend and eat well!

    • @eleaticeyes813
      @eleaticeyes813 2 роки тому +2

      Almost certain the food choice was deliberate concerning the discussion of the aesthetic.

  • @Letsallparty2
    @Letsallparty2 2 роки тому +2

    Not possible for this video. If you’re going to represent the works of a philosopher- do so in a manner that represents the actual work too; as uncomfortable as it may be, Kierkegaard said JESUS is the only way! His work must be respected thus should probably be corrected. It’s the reasonable thing to do.

  • @hereisacomment4u
    @hereisacomment4u Рік тому +1

    The smacking eating/drinking sounds are really.. distracting .

  • @ObeySilence
    @ObeySilence 3 роки тому +1

    wash your hair

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 Рік тому

    Waaaaay too much mouth sounds.
    Gross.
    Good bye!

  • @the_moistest
    @the_moistest 2 роки тому

    Arrggghhhh. Please don't drink and eat in videos. I could hear nothing you were saying except for your swallowing.

  • @Alex_Barbosa
    @Alex_Barbosa 2 роки тому

    I can't sit here and listen to you drink. I hate that sound so much.

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ 3 місяці тому

    Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 8:41