How Switzerland Changed the World

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  • @ThenNow
    @ThenNow  Рік тому +11

    Script & sources at: www.thenandnow.co/2023/06/26/how-switzerland-changed-the-world/
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    • @yuki-sakurakawa
      @yuki-sakurakawa Рік тому

      "Melting pot of cultures..."
      Kinda. Each canton has its own culture, and each region has its own language. At the cantonal (state) level, it's mostly homogenous to ensure social harmony. At the federal level, all cantons are represented as well as the people directly. And the federal council (collective executive) has a mixture of different languages, different parties, and different cantons, to prevent one man rule.

    • @CheckmateSurvivor
      @CheckmateSurvivor Рік тому

      Democracy is yet another globalist conspiracy against people.
      And the Earth is flat.

    • @weedling3552
      @weedling3552 5 місяців тому

      the habsburgs are kind of swiss people themselves, their ancestral home, their castle of habsburg, are in what is now aargau, switzerland. in my opinion that makes them "swiss" people retroactively. in a way all those wars against the habsburgs were civil wars and we "created" our greatest history enemies ourselves.

    • @gola6864
      @gola6864 3 місяці тому

      Habsburg was austrian with its stammburg in switzerland

    • @weedling3552
      @weedling3552 3 місяці тому

      @@gola6864 yeah, but if the stammburg, the actual habsburg, is in switzerland wouldnt that make them swiss?
      i mean the literal habsburg, the castle called habsburg, is in switzerland. kanton aargau.
      how is a dynasty named after a swiss castle, that originated in switzerland suddenly austrian?

  • @suzannecarter445
    @suzannecarter445 Рік тому +326

    I have a brilliant Chinese high-school student living with me. We have watched three of your videos, including this one, together. Each one took 1 1/2 hrs or more because we stop it so often to discuss what it means historically, philosophically, linguisticly, scientifically - you name it. Today he said he has learned more from those 3 videos and our discussions than in a whole year of philosophy and history in his private school. Thank you for that pleasure.

    • @pavelandreev4727
      @pavelandreev4727 Рік тому +20

      I do similar viewings with my daughter of 13. It is the best way to complement the formal education with a discussion on important philosophical and historical topics that usually don't get discussed in school. I would say that I learn as much from her as she from me, and both of us from this kind of videos.

    • @dionysianapollomarx
      @dionysianapollomarx Рік тому +8

      That’s so wholesome. I’d love to have a friend to dialogue with while watching educational videos.

    • @Mcsepps_Lamtbalps
      @Mcsepps_Lamtbalps Рік тому +8

      I wish I had a teacher like you

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  Рік тому +39

      This has made my day. Thank you and regards to you both. Send me an email if you have any questions!

    • @Miodrag.Vukomanovic
      @Miodrag.Vukomanovic Рік тому

      Why do you have a sleeper cell gaining info to use against you when China rises and takes over the world?

  • @eliphaslevi9589
    @eliphaslevi9589 Рік тому +100

    I went to Switzerland many times. I am Australian. I found that when I 1st went there I honestly felt like I was returning HOME. Lucerne was my favourite place. I have read much of Carl Jung and so much of his work speaks deeply to me.
    Definitely there is magic in the mountains and Switzerland nature serves as a physical realm of our deep inner spiritual world.
    Lauterbrannen is Tolkiens inspiration of home for Elves..a perfect and quiet peaceful realm in a world of turmoil.
    I spent an afternoon on a pier in Zurich with my father sharing some beers and talking about life, he is now passed on but that moment remains one of my most significant and enduring of all my life.
    I hope others might experience such joy when they travel there.
    Oh yes . And who can forget the trains.. immaculate and wonderful.

    • @Tearnofear
      @Tearnofear Рік тому +3

      Your words just made my day. Than you and greetings from Switzerland

    • @codeblue9004
      @codeblue9004 3 місяці тому +1

      I’m Swiss, i used to live in Sydney for quite a few years, since 2008 i have lived in Switzerland again in the East. I once met Carl Jung’s nephew when he was the Swiss Ambassador in Sydney. Australia will always have a place in my heart.

    • @johandach-m8w
      @johandach-m8w 2 місяці тому +1

      you mean Lauterbrunnen?
      i dont know Tolkien was inspiration for Elves-home.
      i can seee; bruh
      nice; thx for info

    • @fernandoPessoa8
      @fernandoPessoa8 2 місяці тому +1

      Welcome home, my friend. Perhaps you will meet your father again at this pier in zurich. If only in your heart. Best regards from zurich

    • @Julieseven
      @Julieseven 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for those lovely words, I'm so glad you spent precious moments here. And know that if you ever come to Berne, I'd happily show you some very peaceful spots at our river Aare❤

  • @eplecor
    @eplecor Рік тому +62

    That was incredible. Your filmmaking and storytelling has become the best on UA-cam. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to research and education.

  • @SchwabeAlmanium
    @SchwabeAlmanium 2 місяці тому +61

    i‘m so proud to be born and raised in switzerland, literally the best spawn on this planet. You definitely have to contribute to our society to have a decent life but the quality of life is unbeatable.

  • @brandonsaffell4100
    @brandonsaffell4100 Рік тому +41

    May the algorithm bless this content.

  • @swissyouth
    @swissyouth 2 місяці тому +14

    Former speaker of the Geneva parliament here, thank you for this video, I even learned a few things :D

  • @RandallSlick
    @RandallSlick Рік тому +18

    This is quite possibly the best traditional documentary I've seen in many, many years. Once this would have been on BBC2 at 9PM on a Sunday night. Great work.

  • @Bolts_Films
    @Bolts_Films Рік тому +24

    I love all the little artistic flares in the editing of your videos! the little edits to background noise feel experimental and really fun/authentic

  • @encefox9167
    @encefox9167 2 місяці тому +3

    This is the most beautiful documentary about switzerland. Well done. Thanks for spending the time creating and researching this.

  • @DQuintero1509
    @DQuintero1509 Рік тому +71

    I went to Switzerland a couple of months ago and for me was amazing to see the culture. You can feel how people live there, methodic, pragmatic and well organized. For me was very expensive but the reward was to feel other way to experience life. When I was at the train station, I asked myself: Am I seeing the top of the top of the world?

    • @jimmygeorge161
      @jimmygeorge161 Рік тому

      In my opinion peoples are always happy,philanthropic when they have everything they want,(I mean they want) and when there is free will. Look at the example of Switzerland,in dark ages.the country side didn’t have any women because they were supposedly practiced witchcraft.(tied to the stakes and burned alive

    • @stnbch3025
      @stnbch3025 Рік тому +2

      No. You were just another tourist looking to please the self.

    • @natureswayglass
      @natureswayglass Рік тому +3

      @@stnbch3025 Suspect you read the comment falsely. The individual said “Am I SEEING the top…”, not am I “on”…
      Maybe try stretching. Or touch some grass. ~Lighten UP~.
      Mahalo
      Natures Way

    • @danktrain6572
      @danktrain6572 2 місяці тому +3

      Switzerland is not all fun and beautiful though, as a person who lives here

    • @SchwabeAlmanium
      @SchwabeAlmanium 2 місяці тому +10

      @@danktrain6572yeah true but compared to other countries we get so much for what we have to do. Life isn’t easy anywhere.

  • @turpinglipper9171
    @turpinglipper9171 Рік тому +11

    I've been following this channel for about 6 years, it gets better and better, if you can top this video, I cant wait to see it. Wow!!! Great stuff Lewis.

  • @yaroslavmartsinkevich1392
    @yaroslavmartsinkevich1392 Рік тому +11

    So pleasurable to watch this piece of art

  • @henryplitt6803
    @henryplitt6803 Рік тому +18

    As a Swiss citizen I couldn’t agree more, especially interesting is how our constituons is written, and how these seemingly abstract ideas were translated to very real laws and principles. Swiss law is the basis for our political system and therefore may be, imo one of the greatest texts to have been written, period.

    • @marcelh663
      @marcelh663 8 місяців тому +8

      As a Swiss, I think that this should be taught more in schools. We had one of the greatest thinkers and in school I learnt about some imaginary guy who shot an apple, but not the one who spread humanism...

    • @joelvonah8779
      @joelvonah8779 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@marcelh663 I could not agree more, it is beyond me, how this is not a major part of our history classes.

    • @waveril5167
      @waveril5167 2 місяці тому

      @@marcelh663 Tell was/is actually a real person!

  • @ICreatedU1
    @ICreatedU1 Рік тому +29

    Swiss dude here, amazing work. Just wanted to point out that while it's true people call themselves Swiss here since at least the 15th c., one can find evidence dating back to the 2nd c. BC of a people inhabiting the Swiss plateau (and southern Gaul) calling themselves "Helvets" (Helvetii), which is the origin of the Roman name "Helvetia" for (proto-)Switzerland from the 1st c. AD onwards and is still today the literary term for the country. We still call ourselves Helvets :) Anyway, Keep it up!

    • @DannyDorito420
      @DannyDorito420 Рік тому +5

      Swedish guy here, "helvete" in swedish is directly translated to the curse word "hell". Weird :)

    • @volks5965
      @volks5965 Рік тому +2

      ​@@arisnotheles All sour because our kjøttboller is superior ;-)

    • @DettmannS
      @DettmannS 3 місяці тому +2

      @@DannyDorito420 Steep mountains, harsh winters, hostile wildlife and very limited farming land... I bet to peasants from the middle ages, it probably was hell, compared to neighboring countries. That's why -asides of the mountain passes- Switzerland was not considered worth the trouble to control, so it was mostly left alone as the "poor house" of Europe, where the inhabitants just did their own thing to rule themselves. That or the Helvetii were feared as fierce fighters, if the story of Divico and his battles against the Romans are true. Who knows?
      Funnily enough, it is not known why we call it Schwiiz (Switzerland) but there is a legend that in the canton Schwyz, two Swedish brothers immigrated and gave the land it's name (Land of the Swedes). Schwyz was one of the three founding cantons and to make things simple, the alliance was just called the Schwyzer, which finally gave all of Switzerland it's name. If true, then we have to thank Sweden for our name, so thank you! =)

    • @sirobaumann6831
      @sirobaumann6831 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@DettmannS bit wrong on the swedish immigrant theory. The origin of the name is likely rooted in the Old High German word "Swītes" or "Suittes," which meant "clearing" or "burnt area." This refers to the fact that early settlers in the area cleared forests by burning them to make space for agriculture. The town of Schwyz, first mentioned as "Suittes" in 972, gave its name to both the surrounding canton and later, the entire country of Switzerland. "Schwyzer" was initially used derogatorily by the Swabians during the Swabian War in the late 15th century.

  • @Whayles
    @Whayles Рік тому +7

    Then & now is one of my absolute favourite creators. Each video lifts me up and reignites my interest in philosophy and culture. This video was yet another great one and one I will watch again!

  • @jeffharper407
    @jeffharper407 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for your service ❤ I'll be looking into joining patreon soon. Getting disclaimers are really helpful for helping those of us in our naivety of new tech and business models, adapt to changing economics. Sincerely yours, Jeff h. Cheers mate

  • @weedling3552
    @weedling3552 5 місяців тому +9

    funny thing about the habsburgs, their ancestral home and the actual castle of habsburg are, in what is now aargau, switzerland.

  • @pavelandreev4727
    @pavelandreev4727 Рік тому +11

    I love Rousseau, I am currently rereading his "Emile or on education" to use in a small thesis of mine how education should change focus to not only allow but encourage creativity and critical thinking instead of "marketable skills".
    Oh, and I love this channel as well :)

  • @ghesak
    @ghesak Рік тому +6

    I just wanted to say that I have learned so much through your videos. Thank you for the work that you do, you have an undeniable ability for teaching and although your political position is clear from the content you create, I also admire your effort to remain as objective as possible. Truly, thank you.

  • @goatskip
    @goatskip Рік тому +11

    Impressive, thought-provoking and inspiring, as always.

  • @garygool864
    @garygool864 Місяць тому +1

    I think Rousseau is simply the product of the spirit of Switzerland and he was the one who managed to articulate it and make it known.

  • @aaron6806
    @aaron6806 Рік тому +2

    Incredible work, as always. As another commentor has done, this deserves several re-views with anyone with whom a deep conversation about ideas and ideals possible.

  • @TimMatterSnorri999
    @TimMatterSnorri999 2 місяці тому +2

    Hello everyone 👋 from Switzerland 🇨🇭

  • @steveclancy6474
    @steveclancy6474 Рік тому +7

    I live in Switzerland and knew it was where I had to live the day I arrived for the first time (23 years ago).
    Many things contributed to this feeling but significant among them was the direct democracy.

    • @noahvanderstap6501
      @noahvanderstap6501 9 місяців тому

      How did you make the move to Switzerland at such a young age? I am 20 and I am considering studying there in the future but is it easy to find a job and learn the language etc. Just interested in your stories

    • @craigboyle6364
      @craigboyle6364 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@noahvanderstap6501If you’re just looking to study then it shouldn’t be too hard too move and acquire the permits although if you have heard stories of free or very cheap education that only applies to Swiss citizens so it won’t be very cheap

    • @craigboyle6364
      @craigboyle6364 8 місяців тому

      Although if you’re looking to live here further on after, then it becomes a good deal harder, especially for naturalization.

    • @waveril5167
      @waveril5167 2 місяці тому

      @@craigboyle6364 The uni costs are the same, just living is expensive.

  • @CrockettYT
    @CrockettYT 8 днів тому

    I think this is truly the greatest video on Rousseau on UA-cam, it touches pretty much on all of his most important ideas, thank you.

  • @mysterioanonymous3206
    @mysterioanonymous3206 11 місяців тому +6

    Amazing man... It was rather captivating, even for me (being swiss myself).
    I might add that in my state, one of the original founding members (a rather isolated alpine region, I live where the black and white footage in your video was shot), we have had what is best described as cooperative/collective for over a thousand years. it has historically conveyed over the grazing rights (the alps), and still does. they own 80% of the land to this day. we call it the state within the state. it's all that existed until modern switzerland came into being. nowadays it's engaged in hydro power, logging and preservation and finances a lot of the states public amenities charitably with the proceeds. just like a thousand years ago, members meet annually and cast their votes by raising their hands. democracy is in our blood.

  • @DethWhite
    @DethWhite Місяць тому

    Hey man - this was extremely fascinating to watch. Thank you for putting in so much effort into this and for putting it together and voicing everything so eloquently. This was so enlightening.

  • @nApucco
    @nApucco 2 місяці тому +2

    This video is outstanding. Glad I stumbled upon it 1 year after its release.
    I am Swiss and, while having learned about Rousseau in school, I forgot way too much about his important role in our and Europes history. Thanks for reminding me.

  • @isopropylprofimilbarbiturp2217

    I love the integration of sociopolitical circumstances into the discussion of Rousseau's philosophy! Amazing work!

  • @MFYouTube683
    @MFYouTube683 Місяць тому

    I am very moved by the effort and depth of this video. Subscribed! This is what UA-cam should have more of.

  • @ecnad
    @ecnad Рік тому +12

    Without a doubt one of your most beautiful works thus far. Merci, Lewis.

  • @laurenjeangreenbean6301
    @laurenjeangreenbean6301 Рік тому +1

    Awww that was awesome to see my name lol excellent marketing strategy lol binge on again! Love the work!!

  • @UncleKeith567
    @UncleKeith567 Рік тому +3

    Great work!! I was really hoping you would touch on James Baldwin's time in Switzerland, and where he was a 'Stranger In The Village.' Not sure if it would fold easily into the main trust of this essay, but hope springs....

  • @jhunter8115
    @jhunter8115 2 місяці тому +3

    0:56 second house on tge right. My office today. Everything looks exactly the same. Its called Landsgemeindeplatz in Trogen AR

  • @yahyafati
    @yahyafati Рік тому +3

    How are you this good! Seriously this amazing.

  • @dionysianapollomarx
    @dionysianapollomarx Рік тому +4

    Rousseau critiquing the paradoxes of modernity as a Swiss is interesting. His ideas are totally counter to the ahistorical portrayal of him by Graeber and Wengrow.

  • @OC96CH
    @OC96CH 2 місяці тому +7

    Fun fact, the habsburgs where in origin swiss.

    • @m.a.6478
      @m.a.6478 2 місяці тому +3

      While geographically true, technically that's not completely correct. The Swiss conquered Argovia in 1415 so the area became Swiss only after the Habsburgs were defeated. The founder of the Habsburg (the fortress/castle) came from the bordering region Klettgau (today Germany). The holy roman empire was a mess ;-)

    • @OC96CH
      @OC96CH 2 місяці тому

      @@m.a.6478 I would say yes and no. They must have spoken an allemanic dialect from the region, which envolved later to the argovian dialect. In Klettgau they speak almost the same dialect today. So I would argue that they initially where culturally south-allemanic and would have had more in common with the modern swiss then with austrians. Of course this would change later.

    • @Julieseven
      @Julieseven 2 місяці тому

      Only geographically, as Klettgau is in present-day Switzerland. I'm quite sure the Eidgenossen would have taken grave issue with your statement back in 1315😂😂

    • @m.a.6478
      @m.a.6478 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Julieseven To be precise the Klettgau encompasses modern day Swiss and modern day German territory. A part is in Landkreis Waldshut and other parts are in cantons Argovia, Schaffhausen and Zurich.
      I think it is safe to say that in 1315 nobody would have said "Habsburgs are Swiss" 😆.

    • @OC96CH
      @OC96CH 2 місяці тому

      @@Julieseven I am sure they won‘t I am one myself.

  • @gulaschnikov5335
    @gulaschnikov5335 Рік тому +4

    Good job! You made me desire reading Rousseau :)

  • @rawbennett
    @rawbennett Рік тому +1

    Wow, Lewis, one of your best so far!!

  • @SadSamba
    @SadSamba Рік тому +6

    Just subbed to your Patreon. Your work is too important, video-essays of this quality are non-existant on internet today.

  • @raulsimon2218
    @raulsimon2218 Рік тому +1

    It is absolutely hilarious to see Hegel transcribed as "Hey, girl"!

  • @accountabilitypartnerscomm7635

    Nice nod to the respect for geography in the formulation of world ideas and embodiment. I could see how Foucault could appreciate this. We accept what we think are good ideas -- which we in turn shape ourselves with by participating in power, pro and con.

  • @lacingtrails420
    @lacingtrails420 Рік тому +3

    A wonderful video. enjoyed it so much.

  • @charlesentertainmentcheese6663
    @charlesentertainmentcheese6663 2 місяці тому

    Rousseau, like most other notable people born from Switzerland, became notable after moving to another country. Le Corbusier is another example. It's also interesting to note that while Rousseau was one of the key figures of the revolution, on the side of the Royalists were Swiss soldiers, in memory of which there is a famous Lion statue in Lucerne which us much more monumental than any erected to honour Rousseau.

  • @FCB_Tani
    @FCB_Tani Рік тому +17

    I can only recommend everyone to take a trip through Switzerland. A wonderful country, very close to paradise. Original and yet a model for future ideals.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. But we only get 1600 hours of sunshine a year which gives you depression real quick. So there's that... 😂

    • @Roggino
      @Roggino 2 місяці тому

      ⁠@@mysterioanonymous3206just go in Ticino around 2500 hours sunshine per year and you are still in Switzerland 😉

  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh Рік тому +18

    Beautifully filmed and edited

    • @theoutsider7119
      @theoutsider7119 Рік тому

      Coincidentally i keep seeing your comments on different channels and videos but with the same content. I like this content (self actualisation and understanding) and your comments seem interesting too.

  • @Kahrdis
    @Kahrdis 2 місяці тому

    That was a great doc. Learned a lot. Been living here for 30+ years.

  • @dmitrenchik7777
    @dmitrenchik7777 Рік тому

    Incredible work ! Thank you

  • @ricerat23
    @ricerat23 Рік тому

    the roar of this river! haha love it... rich history and philosophy content on top of a filmmaker's editing... fantastical!

  • @r00kie51
    @r00kie51 Рік тому +22

    This is a very nice essay about Rousseau and his influence over different fields of society and humanity as a whole. But i find the title of this video very missleading. Whe in Switzerland consider Rousseau to be genevan but not swiss. This is mainly beacause Geneva joined our confederation in 1815 years after Rousseaus death. Why not call the video "How Rousseau Chanced the World"? it has little to do with Switzerland in the end.

    • @Slithermotion
      @Slithermotion Рік тому +9

      It wasn't part of a federal switzerland until 1815 but was strongly allied since the 16th century.
      Since geneva was a protestant associate of the swiss confederation ties where a lot of time closer then to catholic savoy or france.
      So yes 1815 is the officiel date however geneva was long before that strongly tied into the ancient swiss regime.
      This is also true for valais, grisons and some other.
      The theories of Rousseau were strongly tied to protedtantism which had a big influence in the swiss political history and which cummilated in the french invasion and later in the "Sonderbund" war.

    • @kiwiopklompen
      @kiwiopklompen Рік тому

      Indeed. I think the title is misleading. I thought it was going to be about how Switzerland became the no. 1 county in the world. Best healthcare, welfare, etc..

    • @vanleeuwenhoek
      @vanleeuwenhoek Рік тому +3

      Perhaps, our essayist sees the cultural/political backdrop of Switzerland as the most influential part of Roussaeu's writing. We could see his work as that of a wandering 'warrior pastoralist' expecting tribute, in a manner of speaking, through his critical writing about the supposed 'natural order' existing within his society.

  • @jurgnobs1308
    @jurgnobs1308 2 місяці тому +1

    one thing that surprises a lot of people is that it used to be mandatory to bring your weapon / gun to those political assemblies you mentioned at about 5 minutes.

  • @benrex7775
    @benrex7775 2 місяці тому

    I like to watch people who create their own games and publish the development process on UA-cam. With one of them I started to talk and then we took the conversation on discord, as UA-cam just isn't a really good tool of conversation. Since I'm from Switzerland he asked me about the Swiss founding mythos and how it differs to the German one. I think this video really shows what makes up Swiss mythology. So I will send the link to him.

  • @hansegloff3651
    @hansegloff3651 2 місяці тому

    Dude, you forgot the Habsburgs. I live literally 5 kilometres away from THE Habsburg! Which is in the town of Habsburg, Brugg county (House of Habsburgs Original Houses main fief) in the Swiss canton of Aargau (Argovia, the Habsburgs economical base for grabbing power in other places), where todays descendents of said Great House spend a lot of time these days. Welcome back home you guys!

  • @aanchaallllllll
    @aanchaallllllll Рік тому +1

    0:39: 🇨🇭 Switzerland's unique history and culture have made it a fascinating and influential country.
    5:15: 🏔 Swiss history is a mix of myth and reality, with a strong emphasis on freedom and independence.
    9:47: 🇨🇭 Switzerland's political process was dominated by powerful interests and controlled monopolies, while paying lip service to democracy.
    14:28: 📚 Jean-Jacques Rousseau, a brilliant and influential figure, was born in Geneva in 1712 and laid the foundations for modern psychology, political sovereignty, ecology, and equality.
    19:14: 🤔 The human soul is constantly shaped by external influences, causing it to appear different from its true nature.
    23:22: 📚 Rousseau's theory challenges the belief that society makes people good, suggesting that society corrupts individuals instead.
    28:09: 📚 The video discusses the impact of anonymous letters on the government and the views of Rousseau.
    32:52: 📚 Rousseau's writings on democracy and freedom continue to be influential today.
    37:12: 📚 The video discusses the influence of Jean-Jacques Rousseau in shaping Western consciousness and the romantic movement.
    Recap by Tammy AI

    • @lilytea3
      @lilytea3 Рік тому

      I now only need to spend minutes understanding the content of this video. You're a time-saver Tammy AI!

    • @ambition112
      @ambition112 Рік тому

      Amazing!

  • @ShuToshio
    @ShuToshio Рік тому +1

    This must be one of Lewis' favourite productions

  • @Tearnofear
    @Tearnofear Рік тому +1

    wow this whole Video is Poetry. Thank you so much to hear something nice about "my" Country, in a time where the negatives overboard

  • @jkam2524
    @jkam2524 Рік тому +3

    Lovely job. Thank you.

  • @ArmandoD10S
    @ArmandoD10S Рік тому +2

    This is one of the best documentary I’ve ever seen about switzerland, the funniest part about this is that the narrative of the history of my country is almost entirely made from a genevan perspective, and the whole swiss people are telling us that we are not swiss, we are french. Thank you for this historical lesson and cheers from Calvingrad! 😅

    • @guzallamomo
      @guzallamomo Рік тому +1

      Nah, We call you Russians or Welsh (no Idea why), we never call you French, that would be to much of a Insult. We Love you even if you keep Voting the wrong way. Greetings from the other End of Switzerland.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 11 місяців тому +3

      meh, I live in one of the founding cantons.... we have had a cooperative here for well over thousand years that owns 80% of the states land (conveying over grazing rights originally, but they now do hydropower, logging and so forth, the proceeds of which go to charitable causes and public amenities in the state) and now, just like then, members meet annually and cast their votes by hand.
      now, i don't want to take away from rousseau or geneva, or the french speaking regions generally, but the origin does lie in central switzerland, as a defensive alliance, and more and more states joined exactly for that reason, over time. so i feel like geneva is being stylised into something it isn't, in terms of swiss history. we have voted here for a long, long time, over 700 years before rousseau was born... so to me it was a little funny in a way, given our local history here. like wtf is geneva to us?
      we mountain people don't get enough credit that's for sure, lol...

  • @martijncrowe3901
    @martijncrowe3901 Рік тому +2

    Excellent essay, thank you. As so many of your channel. For some helping criticism :David Graeber, who in his boek: The Dawn of everything, starts with a critical (in the sense of Kant) assessment of Rousseau (and his audience).
    I find that this kind of essays make a lot of intellectual work more accessible, than only reading, but.... reading we should, to make our own minds up. Not many people red the treatise of Rousseau, like so many cited men (and women). Is this where we auteurs find our grave: in citations?

  • @totonow6955
    @totonow6955 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @normalizedinsanity4873
    @normalizedinsanity4873 Рік тому

    "In reality, the difference is, that the savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him. It is not to my present purpose to insist on the indifference to good and evil which arises from this disposition, in spite of our many fine works on morality, or to show how, everything being reduced to appearances, there is but art and mummery in even honour, friendship, virtue, and often vice itself, of which we at length learn the secret of boasting; to show, in short, how abject we are, and never daring to ask ourselves in the midst of so much philosophy, benevolence, politeness, and of such sublime codes of morality, we have nothing to show for ourselves but a frivolous and deceitful appearance, honour without virtue, reason without wisdom, and pleasure without happiness." JJR

  • @adamkimara6919
    @adamkimara6919 Рік тому +2

    I love Switzerland and Rousseau 🇨🇭

  • @aaron6806
    @aaron6806 Рік тому

    The tug-of-war between individual and communal impulses is something I observe in myself, and reconciliation of these impulses appears to be very elusive, if not impossible.

  • @HembachEntertainment
    @HembachEntertainment Рік тому +2

    I am really sorry for going away from video's topic, but I just blown away by this magnificent melody in 22:22 I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me the name and author of it.

  • @hospod163
    @hospod163 Рік тому +3

    I love every video you produce i haven't watched it do far but tomorrow is my free day and i couldn't have spent the time better thank you!

  • @fraurosenthal2958
    @fraurosenthal2958 Рік тому +6

    As a swiss person I was very interested to learn a lot of these things. A problem that we have nowadays is that many inhabitants migrated from other countries and don't have swiss citizenship, therefore not being able to participate in politics.

    • @fraurosenthal2958
      @fraurosenthal2958 Рік тому

      @@kjurpjdpihe9096 That' s too bad, I hope this will change

    • @idkusername2795
      @idkusername2795 Рік тому +3

      Hello, I’m also Swiss, and if I have to be honest I think it’s better that it’s so difficult for immigrants to get residency, if you look what is happening in other countries with a big immigrant population it’s noticeable that immigrants can have a massive impact on the locals.
      And it’s not always a good influence, like it’s now the case in Sweden for example. This is most likely because a lot of people want the better life they can get here, but they don’t want to give up their usual lifestyle, which can often hurt the country they are migrating to, especially when you have a bunch of immigrants like it is the case in Switzerland.
      I’m not agains immigrants but I do believe that everyone should try to respect the local ideology and try to integrate if they want to live with the locals.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 11 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@idkusername2795Swiss here also... I think immigration has been less than stellar in many ways and my personal experience says so too. Diversity is highly overrated and issues are real and significant.
      A consequence however of particularly the large refugee waves from the Balkans in the 90s (that caused major issues with crime that endure to this day) is that the establishment has woken up to the dangers and problems that uncontrolled immigration (refugees) brings. Since, they have quietly been implementing ways to get highly qualified immigrants and push back or onwards cultural misfits (refugees with low educational attainment). It's not talked about much, or discussed publicly, but it's real and effective... When I look at what's happening in Sweden or Germany I break out in cold sweats. Total nightmare.

    • @markkeogh2190
      @markkeogh2190 10 місяців тому +1

      Switzerland has many foreign nationals. Thank goodness as it would be a far duller place but for them. The fact that many have lived a long time here and yet cannot vote is just preventing a layer of integration. The Swiss economy needs foreigners, takes their taxes etc …so let them more easily become naturalized citizens.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 10 місяців тому

      @@markkeogh2190 hey look, it's another one of those economic immigrants who left their country for greener pastures and now thinks he's knows something his host country's citizens don't...
      If I got 1 CHF everytime I meet one of your kind I'd be even richer than I already am. But no matter how dull and boring it is, you guys just keep coming 🤔
      If you don't like it, why don't you leave? Ill give you an entertaining ride to the airport where I berate you why your country isn't able to deliver economically to its interesting citizens... would you welcome that?
      Didn't think so. Maybe think about that a bit. Also, I have yet to meet any particularly exceptional "expats" (economic immigrants) btw, you guys aren't nearly as interesting as you want to believe 😂👎

  • @iisig
    @iisig Рік тому +6

    Small addition: Switzerland as a real nation state hasn't existed for that long. A true swiss identity has existed even shorter with local identities playing a much bugher role (and they still play a large role). In the old confederacy, regions were independent even in their foreign policy and some parts of what tiday is switzerland were Ubtertanengebiete (subordinate regions).
    Along with that, most wars the swiss fought were against other swiss political entities, often with support from abroad. The sonderbund wars fir example were a very defining moment in swiss history.
    And lastly: A lot of the founding myths are mostly myths. Other defensive pacts existed throughout europe.

    • @oof5020
      @oof5020 2 місяці тому +1

      Interestingly enough, this does not change anything in regard of Swiss identity. The Swiss are an inherently nationalist and conservative people based on those Swiss myths and history.

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 2 місяці тому

      @@oof5020Don’t know where you get that load of BS but it’s certainly not true.

    • @oof5020
      @oof5020 2 місяці тому +2

      @@The_real_Arovor It is very true. A nation of will, based on principles and not blood, must be inhabited by people with nationalist ideals. Otherwise Switzerland wouldn't exist for long and prolly just split up between Ger., Fr. & It. And considering that the Swiss have always held direct democracy, federalism and other Swiss traditions in very high regard, not only because of our history, we do not want to change that system, which is basically what conservatism is. The Swiss have always prided themselves a traditional country, that looks into the future.

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 2 місяці тому

      @@oof5020 Oh you mean it in that way.
      I thought you meant on a political spectrum conservative and nationalist, so rightwing. And while we have a right wing here i‘d say it’s pretty 50/50.
      But I agree, the urge to keep (conserve) the traditional ways is strong here, even on the left.
      But I think there’s also more of an openness towards immigrants, and a will to teach these values to them.
      We have an exceptionally high amount of people with migration backgrounds and still we have probably the least problems with immigrants. I mean a lot of them vote SVP. 😅
      That’s what I love about Switzerland, the will of making it a better place for everyone is still strong in most of our people. Not saying we haven’t any problems though. 😅

    • @oof5020
      @oof5020 2 місяці тому

      @@The_real_Arovor Ah yes, I see what you mean. ^^ Nationalism transcendends political affiliation and the right/left-spectrum. In CH, the SVP & SP politicians can sit together and discuss common goals, because they mostly still have the interests of the Swiss people in mind and lay aside their ego, because it is not their job. (Compared to career politicians in Ger. or the USA)
      But I'd say for the "western standard" the Swiss people are still among the most right-wing, which by no means is something bad.
      And while Switzerland might have a high immigrant populace, there is a very important distinction to be made, compared to Germany, France, Sweden, Belgium and UK: The vast majority of immigrants in Switzerland are from European countries. That's why they struggle less to integrate (ideally assimilate) and why we don't have the same problems with gang/clan-criminality, islamic extremism and other social & economical burdens, which we can see en masse in our neighbors homes.

  • @UrsulaHelen
    @UrsulaHelen 2 місяці тому

    2:44 that’s really not the case! As a Swiss citizen I tell you where in Inlays the roots of our freedom.
    J. R. has had several children and different wife’s. He didn’t took care of his children.
    You have to dig deeper, towards the reformation. J. Calvin , G. Farrell, U Zwingli and many others shaped the liberty of our country .

  • @HiMotionAndDesign
    @HiMotionAndDesign Рік тому +2

    This looks amazing! Great work!

  • @nickapvikes
    @nickapvikes Рік тому +1

    One of the letters to Rousseau you quoted ("Thank you for the present you have given us. It is an arsenal of the most excellent weapons.") reminded me of an interviewers comment on Cory Doctorow's writing. Sounds weird I know. But I found the quote so here ya go:
    Terry Bison: "These days a lot of SF writers (and others!) are moving into YA because it’s more profitable. But it seems to me that you also have a political agenda. Can say anything about that?"
    Cory Doctorow: "That goes back to what you said earlier, about having a project. I don’t have a name for it, but it’s about technology and liberation. Those are the words I’d use. My work is all in service to it-the blog, the YA fiction, the technological advocacy, the standards work, the lobbying. All of that stuff is part of a bigger project. Where YA comes in, I guess, is that kids are never part of the status quo. They are outlaws by hereditary design. Plus they are tuned into technology. And technology always favors the attacker, not the defender."
    TB: "Cool. So you’re arming a constituency that’s interested in changing things. You’re passing out weapons to the kids.."
    CD: "That’s a lovely way to put it. I’m sure that’ll read great on my indictment sheet. But it does seem a little like that. The weapons of course are ideas and information. I’ve thought a lot about what it’s like to be an activist in the era of Google. I think it’s less important to know facts than it is to know keywords. Keywords are capabilities: if you know something can be done, you can figure out how to do it."

    • @Delfigamer1
      @Delfigamer1 Рік тому

      What is YA?

    • @nickapvikes
      @nickapvikes Рік тому +1

      ​@@Delfigamer1 @Delfigamer1 YA is Young Adult, in this context he's talking about writing novels/novellas/short stories for young adults. My absolute favorite of his is _Walkaway_ which I highly recommend if you like the idea of a post-scarcity sci-fi utopia/dystopia!
      Doctorow is an author of YA & adult fiction, some nonfiction, a blogger (BoingBoing + Craphound), and an activist (EFF - Electronic Frontiers Foundation) for things like lessening copyright/"intellectual property" restrictions & a critic of silicon valley, venture capital, and capitalism in general.

  • @Etothe2iPi
    @Etothe2iPi 2 місяці тому +1

    2:48 This is in Annecy France!

    • @mttlpnkt
      @mttlpnkt 2 місяці тому

      Just replayed that, googled to reconfirm myself and then found your comment

  • @Knaeben
    @Knaeben Рік тому

    This show was very informative. Quite fantastic!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 місяці тому

    I lived for a while in the house where Rousseau's father died. We determined that he died of claustrophobia.

  • @ParadiseQuestMangaka
    @ParadiseQuestMangaka 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm swiss and my father once very lovingly and gleefully called Rousseau the "greatest pain in the ass we have unleashed upon the world" and that it was "vengeance on the French for having to put up with Farel and Calvin". 😂😂😂

  • @grafffuj
    @grafffuj Рік тому +2

    Nice video, although the thumbnail might be wrong because langkofel and plattkofel are in italy. You could have used the Matterhorn or piz Bernina instead 😊

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  Рік тому +1

      Thank you

    • @grafffuj
      @grafffuj Рік тому +3

      @@ThenNow great change!!!

  • @derhochwohlgeborene8548
    @derhochwohlgeborene8548 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful! Guess I gotta read Rousseau then.

  • @mustafa3816
    @mustafa3816 Рік тому +1

    Another spectacular presentation. thank you so much for your incredible work

  • @jaydef6497
    @jaydef6497 Рік тому

    So glad I found this video again!!!

  • @maxschoon2470
    @maxschoon2470 Рік тому +1

    Great video! To me Rouseau's ideas sound much like the ideas in Plato's Republic.

  • @comedyfriendsenglish
    @comedyfriendsenglish Рік тому +1

    Bravo. I love your videos! Amazing work

  • @AlexanderWeixelbaumer
    @AlexanderWeixelbaumer 3 місяці тому

    As much as I like how peaceful you portrayed the Swiss, let me be clear:
    - There was a war between the people of the city and the ones on the land
    - There was constant turmoil between Catholics and Protestants
    - There usually was even distrust between villages

    • @sagittariusa9012
      @sagittariusa9012 2 місяці тому +2

      compared to other european nations it was pretty "peaceful".

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe 2 місяці тому

    2:48 Is that a picture of Annecy/ France slipped in the video ?
    7:00 In my understanding of the « Bundesbrief » the document of 1291 is a CONFIRMATION of an already existing treaty….but is the oldest document surviving to this day.

  • @lukazka
    @lukazka Рік тому +1

    excellent video

  • @thea42
    @thea42 Рік тому

    Very good thank you. ❤

  • @tylercross8877
    @tylercross8877 Рік тому

    Fantastic vid. I have some disagreements with Rousseau but I do agree he moved us forward in the right direction more so than just about anyone

  • @eddeph
    @eddeph Рік тому +1

    "How switzerland gave us democracy" - thumbnail has seceda and sassolungo both in italian tyrol

  • @maxschoon2470
    @maxschoon2470 Рік тому +4

    Today, we are again at a turning point; while we've parliamentary democracies, the wisest aren't in charge. One could argue that the soul of the state is turning tyrannical, just like the souls of the individuals constituting the state.

    • @Alexx29
      @Alexx29 Рік тому

      Agreed, although this only fortifies the position that freedom is never granted but defended and fought for.

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 Рік тому

      And Switzerland is different how exactly??🤡

    • @The_real_Arovor
      @The_real_Arovor 2 місяці тому +1

      @@aturchomicz821 Much more direct influence 😏

  • @Name00520
    @Name00520 2 місяці тому

    The first photo is southtyrol (Saslonch)

  • @jcastro-baez4446
    @jcastro-baez4446 Місяць тому

    Thank you

  • @symbolsandsystems
    @symbolsandsystems Рік тому +1

    virtue creates wealth
    wealth creates narcissism....

  • @Silversurfer604
    @Silversurfer604 2 місяці тому +2

    Our Gift to the world as well, LSD

  • @zockerplay3314
    @zockerplay3314 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic documentary!

  • @UrsulaHelen
    @UrsulaHelen 2 місяці тому

    12:23 that’s right ! But J. Calvin brought up the main idea and source to develop the Bank system, by offering people a credit , without interest charges.

  • @AfroCloud19
    @AfroCloud19 Рік тому +4

    As someone who grew up and lives in the German Part of Switzerland, it baffles me how romanticized switzerland is by so many people. Especially when it comes to things like "Neutrality" which in reality has been on shaky grounds since WWI, especially so in WWII. While i do agree that in some ways switzerland may have had long lasting effects on the world, it to has been changed by the world. It had a human zoo all the way back in 1874 in Basel, the swiss government supported and worked closely with the government of Appartheid Southafrica until the international pressure was to high. The story of the Verdingkinder, the long and slow way to Womens Rights, or that switzerland, while not directly participating in colonialism, was still benefiting from it.
    It is also fascinating how a country that is made up of diverse can be so reactionary and conervative when it comes to foreign people. So materially Switzerland may have alot of great things like Welfare or Healtcare (although its getting increasingly more expensive), but i hardly see the ideals of Rousseau reflected in the German part of Switzerland, maybe its deep down somwere.

  • @jurgnobs1308
    @jurgnobs1308 2 місяці тому

    Rousseau lived on a semi island near where I was born and spent my childhood after he fled from france.
    sorry, but considering Rousseau swiss (geneva was independant and later part of france during his lifetime) but considering the Habsburg german (they were an originally swiss family that mostly built their power from their holdings in austria after their losing their swiss holdings) is a bit weird lol

  • @user-wl2xl5hm7k
    @user-wl2xl5hm7k Рік тому +12

    I wonder if Switzerland will be the first jurisdiction to fully abolish all types of intellectual property laws.
    If so, hopefully sooner than later.

    • @tehchives
      @tehchives Рік тому +1

      @@user-wl2xl5hm7k Hey, nice share. Thank you. I'm all for getting rid of IP and checking it out now.

    • @user-wl2xl5hm7k
      @user-wl2xl5hm7k Рік тому +1

      @@tehchivesGlad to help :)
      As an aside, IP laws were relatively young at Karl Marx’s time. He was unaware of how they worked, so he didn’t address them at all or about how they negatively affect the working class.
      Against Intellectual Monopoly is the most informative book humanity has on the subject now. Against Intellectual Property is another incredible essay, but it’s written from a right-libertarian perspective so if you’re leftist like me you’ll have to read with an open mind and extract what’s helpful.

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 Рік тому

      Its a conservative Shithole, obviously not??

  • @edumorphology
    @edumorphology 10 місяців тому

    This one was really good, even among your other really good ones.

  • @beneddieaurora329
    @beneddieaurora329 2 місяці тому

    Brilliant 💯 thanks 🙏

  • @SneakySteevy
    @SneakySteevy Рік тому +1

    Spinoza is the father of the modern democracy.