My 2 cents on the Mossberg Patriot rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. Article at: www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-... Mossberg Patriot at Brownells USA (affiliate link): alnk.to/dLc3sqt
It's for a few reasons: less likely to bind up from dirt and other foreign debris in the action, weight reduction without sacrificing strength, and heat dissapation.
Bought this gun in 270 with the cerakote finish to replace an old Remington 270 that was defective and under recall for firing on its own. Went cheap but am I glad I bought the mossberg. Shots 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with almost anything I feed it. I replaced the synthetic stock with a thumb hole from Boyd’s and mounted a Nikon 2.5-10 scope on the rifle.Went to South Texas January 9, 2019 for a week long hunt, shot an 11 point that scored 146 green, not great but it was a bad year for deer the deer was around 90 yards, spot on shot. I shot 3 aoudad sheep during the week, one at about 150 yards the other 2 at around 350 yards all killed with one shot. I also shot a hog that went close to 200 pounds at about 100 yards, again 1 shot no issues. The rifle shoots great with no issues, looked at ruger, savage, TC arms and Remington glad I went with this one.
A word about accuracy. I use JB Weld to fit the recoil lug to the stock. I grease the recoil lug and receiver, then fill the cavity for the recoil lug. Next morning I pull the action and barrel off the stock then put it back together. I only do the recoil lug.
I bought one of these in .30-06 with the Cera-Kote all-weather finish (which is VERY nice), and a Vortex scope for hunting moose, and I have to say that it’s an excellent rifle. Great accuracy, and that recoil pad works very well. Best trigger of any rifle I’ve ever owned, hands down. The fluting on the bolt and barrel don’t bother me a bit, they look kinda nice. Also I took your advice and got an extra magazine, but I haven’t needed it yet - those mags are a lot tougher than they look. My only complaint about this rifle is the position of the safety - I really wish it was on the tang. I’m not a fan of the Remington 700-style safeties. It works, but it’s not positioned well. Every other gun Mossberg makes has a tang-mounted safety and they couldn’t do it with this one? Just a personal preference I guess. Awesome rifle otherwise.
I bought one in S.S. Marine Cerakote 243 and changed the synthetic stock out for the Laminate stock like on the dangerous game rifle. Topped it with a Nikon P-308 4-12 x 40 BDC. It likes Hornady 100 gr. BTSP (I choose the 308 because the 243 trajectory is closer to the 308 than the 5.56/223) Dime size groups at 100 yards.
I bought one in 270 with the vortex scope last year to hunt elk. I didn't have a lot of cash at the time, and for the price I thought I might as well give it a try. I bought two boxes of ammo for it Hornady SSTs and Federal Premuims with Sierra Game Kings. The Hornadys shot a 1 3/4 inch 3 shot group at 100 yards and the Federals shot just under an inch 3 shot group at 100 yards. I was going to buy an axis, and had already owned an axis and was not impressed. The Patriot is a better rifle in my opinion. I took a 330 class bull with the 270 and it more than did what I needed it to do. Good budget rifle and I just bought one in 6.5 CM for my daughter.
I decided to go with the Remington 700 SPS in 300 RUM over the Mossberg had one of those not impressed with the plastic trigger guard it broke in to when it got cold here in Siberia it just literally snapped the 700 has a steel trigger guard other than that it’s great
First thanks for sharing your review. I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
Yes I bought this rifle, strong recoil power, so strong that my trigger guard broke apart when sighting it in. It was during the very first year of having the thing. But other than that I’ve become so attached to it!!! I love this rifle, along with a nice vortex scope!!!
Like any other rifle, you have to find the ammo it likes. I have this in a .308 and in spite of the negative reviews on accuracy....which are easy to find, my three shot groups at a hundred yards actually touch. I find in the .308 it likes the lighter loads. With a good scope, this is everything I can ask for. Yeah, this comment is 5 year after posting.....but I found the vid, so others will too.
Hey Remington. Check out the trigger guard on this rifle Mossberg was able to do it in a nice rounded off and reasonable manner. Why did you do the 783 that way you did?
Have the predator version in 6.5. Love it. Could not ask for more from a cheap hunting rifle. Half moa for me with 125-130gr bullets. They don't seem to like the heavier stuff, probably cuz the barrel twist isnt as fast as most 6.5cm.
We have a mossberg mvp varmint in 556 . It is the most accurate 556 I have seen . It has took deer out past 200 yards . I have looked at some other rifles by mossberg , but have not bought one in a bigger caliber yet .
Love my patriot, had a loading issue sent in for warranty came back running like a dream. Mine came with a pinned to 5, 10 round steel mag. Rifles light easy to shoulder and reload threaded barrel. Love it. Also 308 :)
Jake The Snake would you recommend this as a good budget first rifle for myself? Someone who is looking to master their shooting skills then go hunting.? With the eventual upgrade ofc..
Mike Magid I bought this not too long ago and like it a lot. It has lots of good features, not heavy, good recoil, and the bullet drop is not too bad. This is a good gun for a master or beginner
Just picked mine up today in 270 Haven't got to shoot it yet can't wait. In and out the door for $400 even with tax included. Very impressed alot of nice built-ins for a work horse rifle.
One can bond two magazines together to make a 12 round DBM. I cut the floor plate off at 90 degrees on the top one using a hack saw, I removed the feed lips on the bottom one using a keyhole saw with hack saw blade attached. I then used JB Weld for plastic to bond them together. After curing overnight, I used a flat and round file to clean the interior of the DBM. I stretched the follower spring by pulling apart about 2 inches. The Frankin mag. functions just fine.
@@Huntinggearguy I had so much trouble with the Axis I ended up just throwing them away. Modifying the Mossberg mags was so easy I ended up making 4 of the 12 round DBM's
I experienced the same aggravation. Got rid of the Savage in favor of the Mossberg. I have the Cerakote SS finish, grey Laminate stock topped with a Nikon P-308 4-12 40 BDC. Very accurate.
I bought a Mossberg Predator Kryptek on a Black Friday sale '23. Upon unpacking I immediately determined a trigger sticking issue. Sent it to the warranty center and they replaced the trigger. After getting it back( they fire four shots testing it) I cleaned it and ran my bore scope through it. I've never seen such inferior workmanship. There were dozens of galling pits from the button rifling process and deep chatter marks where gobs of copper built up considering I haven't even shot it yet. I send a concern with bore pics to Mossberg and got the following reply: I spoke with the warranty center and the firearm did pass all inspection. I also forwarded the photos to our engineering department for review and they have advised what you are seeing in the barrel is normal and safe to use. The firearms are test fired prior to shipping and the warranty center in Canada test fired the Patriot with no issues. Have a great day. So I concluded that the company adheres to a policy that if you pull the trigger and it fires, we're happy. I've owned hundreds of firearms and was a large dealer before I sold out to a big box chain years ago and never have I heard a less caring company.
Brandon Clum hmmm lucky you. That’s two years before that load was introduced. Did you mean a patriot in another caliber? If so I agree. I have one in 243 and it’s a tack driver out of the box.
I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
jcc713 punching paper or putting meat on the menu? My opinion and experiences.... for hunting it’s a matter of game and terrain. Short or long range. Medium or large game. An 06 or 308 or 270 are all great rounds on N A game. There’s a bajillion loads in between but if you want a starting point those three are great. On paper, my 243 and and 22/250 are my best out to 500 yds. I’m well aware there are better but that’s my quiver so I’m limited
A smooth bolt would just spin inside that ice packed into your gun for some unknown reason.... Flutes would just give space to pack more gunk into the action.
Just ran through a box of 145 white box and found something concerning. Every round showed excessive pressure. Looking online I found that some loads from the factory were overly crimped and caused the case mouth not to index properly. The extra headspace caused primer puncture, flattening, cratering and bolt slam on the head. The first two boxes were fine so I didn’t look close until I gathered the brass from the third box. I called mossberg and they were helpful. Asked me to contact Winny first and then call mossberg back with load info etc. winny didn’t answer yet. Anyone else notice this yet?
I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
I recently purchased mine in .308 and bought some steel cased Monarch to play with. After 23 shots, the ejector piece tore right in half at the end of the bolt. Currently having to send back the ENTIRE rifle to Mossberg (apparently I have to) just to get the issue fixed under warranty. Gonna try and get someone else on the phone and see if I can just get a replacement end piece or entire bolt. If I have to send the gun back, might as well refund me.
About mine with scope como style 308 it hit bull with 100 yards the scope on it when I bought it from Walmart about 400 the scope they call dead ringer probably going up grade scope but I have no problem with mine sweet rifle
I have one in 308 short going to change to a boyd stock feather weight due to the instability issue i experienced last year. I bought it used but the previous owner took great care of it groups of 1.5 at 100 yards i love it. I've bagged hogs, deer, and sheep. Paid 150 dollars for it and worth every bit. I've shot many rifles in my life time i like this one the best.
My local crappy tire was selling this rifle with a vortex scope for the same price as a savage 111 with a weaver scope. I was looking for a 300 win mag for bison hunting. The mossberg felt overly cheap in my hands, very light, the stock felt like toy plastic and the bolt just felt too light to me. I’m also suspicious when a rifle has a 250 dollar scope and is the same price as a rifle with a garbage scope. Needless to say I purchased the savage and put a leupold scope on it. To each their own, I like my heavy caliber rifles to have some heft to them.
I got the patriot with the marine coat and laminate stock chambered in 300 Win Mag. I can't say anything about the accuracy or whatnot, but it has that heft and looks great. I need a scope on mine, but then it'll be a great elk rifle I'm sure
About a month ago, I won a Ruger American Ranch in .450 Bushmaster. I’m anxious to shoot it, but need to put glass on it first. Then on Saturday, 15 Feb, I won a Mossberg Patriot in .25-06. I’ve never owned that caiber, so I’m doing a little research.
Starry Night Pool & Spa Care Deer Unlimited banquets. They are a lot of fun and GREAT prizes, great food, and great fellowship with like-minded hunters. I’m currently 2-2 with winning a rifle at each banquet I’ve attended. I have not looked for an extended mag for either.
@@MrCraigDNelson buddy it is my go to rifle anytime ! I invested in a Nikon buckmaster 2 scope and a threaded muzzle brake as well and I have never been happier. Easy to clean , the bolt and action are flawless. If you buy it I promise there is no buyers remorse
honestly I reckon 243's boot more than creedmores... felt recoil I shot a mates old ruger 243 and it was aggressive as fuck.. shot me mates 6.5 smooth as butter
Jai B be the way your describing the aggressive as fuck recoil on a 243 which not forgetting to mention my 6 year old daughter hunts with. Implies you struggle with the aggressive as fuck recoil from the baby 243 cal bro it’s ok your a 6.5 bandwagoner admit it but don’t make yourself look like a pussy telling everyone the 243 is aggressive most ignorant and dumb thing I’ve ever heard of
I found the stock realy wanting. Weight was good. The magazine and it's mounnnting sleeve are. Poor quality... Pilar bedding helped. Bedding the action requires a lot of accura glass. I glassed in the magazine well to hold the magazine tighter. I am under 1 moa at 100yds. I struggled with it at 1000. I am looking at boyds for a stock replacement. I know the orix chassie system is avalible. But it costs more than the rifle. Boyds just doubles the cost. I am using a primary arms scope that is twice the cost of the rifle. I am hoping the rifle itself will be great with the new stock. 3 years into the plastic and it is warping and contacting the berrel. I have bent drilled and pinned the stock twice to hold it. I belive it is time for replacement.
I have a walnut-stock version in .270. Of all the rifles I've owned over the years, this one is far and away my favorite. I wouldn't change a thing about it, including the magazine. The magazine weighs next to nothing, can't corrode, feed lips don't get bent out of shape, it is easy to load, cartridges feed reliably and smoothly out of it every single time, it drops out in my hands when empty and I unlatch it, it stays latched when it is supposed to, and it doesn't rattle in the rifle, whether loaded, unloaded, or somewhere in between.
I have to say I really wanted my 308 patriot to shoot accurate.. I handload all my ammo and used to benchrest shoot. I loaded up 165 Sierra game kings 46 g varget for hunting.. Oal( over all length) 2.755. Solid bench and rest my best groups where "4 @100 yrds.. Not impressed at all.. I didn't want to have to write this review.. I fired it cleaned etc.. Never had a rifle hit so poor.. Forgot to mention put 2x7x33 Leopold on rifle. Checked allen wrench stock bolts for tightness and same result.. So.. Going to make my OAL close to the lands and function in magazine. Will locktite stock.. Going to shoot some factory through it multiple times before using reloads again.. Will post after
facts not feelings send it ive had similar results. I think this rifle, while an affordable package, has quality control issues as some are not as accurate as others or consistent for whatever reason. I’ve seen multiple reviews reflecting this problem online.
@@Ghoosierunfortunately there true.. Haven't had the time to fool with it... I actually woke up thinking about this rifle this morning and if I can just send it back to the factory... Just a pain and wasn't expecting to go through the bs with it.. I won't buy another one.. Not that I needed this one.. But it does look good and I fell for the cheap price..
No I haven’t had time to mess with it yet but will soon. Will let you know but the main thing that bugs me about this rifle is the inconsistency and seeing that others have the same issue I am leery of it now for hunting
@@alexcurry5541 I meant the older and well respected models. Most $200 new rifles are better then old tried and true rifles from the 50’, 60’s and 70’s. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love many of those old rifles but a cheapo Savage made after 2017 is miles better then most of those old quality guns.
I have the atr in .308. It came with a barska scope. At 100 I'm shooting quarter sized groups. I hear a handful of people that can't shoot under 1" @ 100 with the patriot. 🤔 not sure if its the rifle, scope or the shooter.
Yeah, sorry. Thank you for replying. I've read a hand full articles on the best 4/5 best "affordable" rifles, after watching your reviews I liked these two the best. Which one would you recommend as being superior or having the best design?
it looks cool lol but it also does save on weight even though the weight savings are minimal but it also helps if you hunt in bad climates so for example if its snowing your bolt wont get iced up and stick or if it gets a little dirty from mud or sand you can still easily cycle the bolt.
Superior in what way? The 270 delivers a little more speed at the muzzle, sure. A factory 130 grain 6.5 will do 2900 fps, while the 270 will send a 130 grain bullet at 3050 fps. But the 6.5CM is doing that in a short action, in an easier to reload, more inherently accurate case and has more bullet selection. None of that really matters that much for a hunting rifle, but I guess the short action bit helps make for a slightly lighter rifle.
@@scottdepuydt6605 yeah thats why replacement extractors are going out like pizzas on welfare cheque day. Talk to real gunsmiths and see what junk they are.
Not bashing but 1 1/2 N more MOA at 100yds is not that great of accuracy at all if ur only shooting 100yds then sure. But if your out at any range we will say 500 yds that means ur shooting a 7 1/2 inch group that's not gd at all
@@millimeterpeter7159 not that and if ur going off from the size of a person then so be it but I go off the size of animals I'm going to harvest and that won't do. For me at 500 yrs I want to be sub MOA so around the 2 1/2 -3 " group
@@leecummings635 you do realize statistically you're going to have at least a 5 inch in the whereabouts if you already have a .75 to 1 moa group. Then you have other factors that will expand your grouping since in the 500m range you're entering the long range shooting territory
@@millimeterpeter7159 of course I realize I shoot long rang I reload all of my own ammo and 500 yards isn't all that far and there wld be no reason for a 7 inch group but it's also the shooter and everyone if shooting that far sld strive for sub MOA which for me is around a 2 1/2 inch group
I ran across one of these for 300 bucks today. Was going to buy it on the spot, and then I handled it. Very rough fit and finish. Sticky bolt, machine marks everywhere. Not knocking on anybody who got one. It’s a nice cheap rifle, and you can beat the shit out of it without giving a damn if you scratch it up or run over the stock when you’re drunk. But it really is an ugly duck.
7mm Reloader there’s no point of an “impartial review”...personal opinions are useful in a review, otherwise you’re gaining nothing more than the info you can find on a product’s description from the manufacturer’s website.
Agreed, this asshat must be a terrible shot. I can shoot sub MOA all day long with Hornady SST 130 grain in .270 win with this rifle. Mine does have the laminate stock though, but, I find it difficult to believe that stock would make that big of a difference.
The spiraling on the bolt is there for a reason, you can still activated in icy conditions... It’s not just for looks
Also for weight reduction.
True that. Flutes. Look kinda nice too.
It's for a few reasons: less likely to bind up from dirt and other foreign debris in the action, weight reduction without sacrificing strength, and heat dissapation.
good to know. thanks Team!
Good luck in the cold with a plastic magazine though.
Bought this gun in 270 with the cerakote finish to replace an old Remington 270 that was defective and under recall for firing on its own. Went cheap but am I glad I bought the mossberg. Shots 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with almost anything I feed it. I replaced the synthetic stock with a thumb hole from Boyd’s and mounted a Nikon 2.5-10 scope on the rifle.Went to South Texas January 9, 2019 for a week long hunt, shot an 11 point that scored 146 green, not great but it was a bad year for deer the deer was around 90 yards, spot on shot. I shot 3 aoudad sheep during the week, one at about 150 yards the other 2 at around 350 yards all killed with one shot. I also shot a hog that went close to 200 pounds at about 100 yards, again 1 shot no issues. The rifle shoots great with no issues, looked at ruger, savage, TC arms and Remington glad I went with this one.
A word about accuracy. I use JB Weld to fit the recoil lug to the stock. I grease the recoil lug and receiver, then fill the cavity for the recoil lug. Next morning I pull the action and barrel off the stock then put it back together. I only do the recoil lug.
I bought one of these in .30-06 with the Cera-Kote all-weather finish (which is VERY nice), and a Vortex scope for hunting moose, and I have to say that it’s an excellent rifle. Great accuracy, and that recoil pad works very well. Best trigger of any rifle I’ve ever owned, hands down. The fluting on the bolt and barrel don’t bother me a bit, they look kinda nice. Also I took your advice and got an extra magazine, but I haven’t needed it yet - those mags are a lot tougher than they look. My only complaint about this rifle is the position of the safety - I really wish it was on the tang. I’m not a fan of the Remington 700-style safeties. It works, but it’s not positioned well. Every other gun Mossberg makes has a tang-mounted safety and they couldn’t do it with this one? Just a personal preference I guess. Awesome rifle otherwise.
This was my first rifle got it for christmas from my dad this year
Me too 😂
How is it? Accurate? Reliable? Robust?
Ggg mine is super reliable and accurate, never had a issue with it, ever. Mines in 30-06
I got mine for my birthday 2yrs ago and its awsome I got 3 deer so far mine is in 243
I bought one in S.S. Marine Cerakote 243 and changed the synthetic stock out for the Laminate stock like on the dangerous game rifle. Topped it with a Nikon P-308 4-12 x 40 BDC. It likes Hornady 100 gr. BTSP (I choose the 308 because the 243 trajectory is closer to the 308 than the 5.56/223) Dime size groups at 100 yards.
I bought one in 270 with the vortex scope last year to hunt elk. I didn't have a lot of cash at the time, and for the price I thought I might as well give it a try. I bought two boxes of ammo for it Hornady SSTs and Federal Premuims with Sierra Game Kings. The Hornadys shot a 1 3/4 inch 3 shot group at 100 yards and the Federals shot just under an inch 3 shot group at 100 yards. I was going to buy an axis, and had already owned an axis and was not impressed. The Patriot is a better rifle in my opinion. I took a 330 class bull with the 270 and it more than did what I needed it to do. Good budget rifle and I just bought one in 6.5 CM for my daughter.
I trust anything from mossberg I've never been disappointed with any of their firearms!
I decided to go with the Remington 700 SPS in 300 RUM over the Mossberg had one of those not impressed with the plastic trigger guard it broke in to when it got cold here in Siberia it just literally snapped the 700 has a steel trigger guard other than that it’s great
bet youre regretting that 6.5 creedmoor now lol
First thanks for sharing your review. I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
I've got the walnut stock in 30-06, and I absolutely love it, I've got a Vortex Crossfire II 3x9x40 and I love it
Getting same gun but in 7mm hopefully I like it sounds like there good guns
I have this one too it’s awesome
Amazing the put fluting at that price point. And a box magazine?! Mossberg outdid themselves.
Yes I bought this rifle, strong recoil power, so strong that my trigger guard broke apart when sighting it in. It was during the very first year of having the thing. But other than that I’ve become so attached to it!!! I love this rifle, along with a nice vortex scope!!!
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what does this guy not like the spiral bolt it looks awesome and it comes with it!
Like any other rifle, you have to find the ammo it likes. I have this in a .308 and in spite of the negative reviews on accuracy....which are easy to find, my three shot groups at a hundred yards actually touch. I find in the .308 it likes the lighter loads. With a good scope, this is everything I can ask for. Yeah, this comment is 5 year after posting.....but I found the vid, so others will too.
Hey Remington. Check out the trigger guard on this rifle Mossberg was able to do it in a nice rounded off and reasonable manner. Why did you do the 783 that way you did?
Have the predator version in 6.5. Love it. Could not ask for more from a cheap hunting rifle. Half moa for me with 125-130gr bullets. They don't seem to like the heavier stuff, probably cuz the barrel twist isnt as fast as most 6.5cm.
We have a mossberg mvp varmint in 556 . It is the most accurate 556 I have seen . It has took deer out past 200 yards .
I have looked at some other rifles by mossberg , but have not bought one in a bigger caliber yet .
My mosserg patriot 243 was accurate at 362 yards
Looking at getting one of these for a brush gun but I see a lot of mixed reviews
I’m getting the 308 model here soon comes with a scope already 399$ can’t wait for hunting season
Love my patriot, had a loading issue sent in for warranty came back running like a dream. Mine came with a pinned to 5, 10 round steel mag.
Rifles light easy to shoulder and reload threaded barrel. Love it. Also 308 :)
Jake The Snake would you recommend this as a good budget first rifle for myself? Someone who is looking to master their shooting skills then go hunting.? With the eventual upgrade ofc..
Mike Magid I bought this not too long ago and like it a lot. It has lots of good features, not heavy, good recoil, and the bullet drop is not too bad. This is a good gun for a master or beginner
Why was the mag pinned? Is this a local state requirement or was this magazine originally designed for a semi auto?
Nice review
You can get great accuracy? Did you use different types of ammo?
What is the best ammo brand for this rifle?
Just picked mine up today in 270 Haven't got to shoot it yet can't wait. In and out the door for $400 even with tax included. Very impressed alot of nice built-ins for a work horse rifle.
Sportsman outdoor has the right now for 275 tax and shipping included
One can bond two magazines together to make a 12 round DBM. I cut the floor plate off at 90 degrees on the top one using a hack saw, I removed the feed lips on the bottom one using a keyhole saw with hack saw blade attached. I then used JB Weld for plastic to bond them together. After curing overnight, I used a flat and round file to clean the interior of the DBM. I stretched the follower spring by pulling apart about 2 inches. The Frankin mag. functions just fine.
Amazing. I kinda did the same thing with a Magpul PMag and a Savage Axis mag.
@@Huntinggearguy I had so much trouble with the Axis I ended up just throwing them away. Modifying the Mossberg mags was so easy I ended up making 4 of the 12 round DBM's
I experienced the same aggravation. Got rid of the Savage in favor of the Mossberg. I have the Cerakote SS finish, grey Laminate stock topped with a Nikon P-308 4-12 40 BDC. Very accurate.
Why so many rds . do you have a little trouble hitting your target .
@@jamesmiller7283 No Jim. I have 12 rounds available in case of SHTF. Otherwise I use 5 round magazines.
Did you adjust the trigger?
So It is basically a savage Axis with a Rem 700 safety. Is this compatible with Savage barrels?
I bought a Mossberg Predator Kryptek on a Black Friday sale '23. Upon unpacking I immediately determined a trigger sticking issue. Sent it to the warranty center and they replaced the trigger.
After getting it back( they fire four shots testing it) I cleaned it and ran my bore scope through it.
I've never seen such inferior workmanship. There were dozens of galling pits from the button rifling process and deep chatter marks where gobs of copper built up considering I haven't even shot it yet.
I send a concern with bore pics to Mossberg and got the following reply:
I spoke with the warranty center and the firearm did pass all inspection. I also forwarded the photos to our engineering department for review and they have advised what you are seeing in the barrel is normal and safe to use.
The firearms are test fired prior to shipping and the warranty center in Canada test fired the Patriot with no issues. Have a great day.
So I concluded that the company adheres to a policy that if you pull the trigger and it fires, we're happy.
I've owned hundreds of firearms and was a large dealer before I sold out to a big box chain years ago and never have I heard a less caring company.
Excellent review.
Bought one of these 4 years ago and love it. It shoots about 1moa at 100 not a bad rifle for the 350 range
Brandon Clum hmmm lucky you. That’s two years before that load was introduced. Did you mean a patriot in another caliber? If so I agree. I have one in 243 and it’s a tack driver out of the box.
I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
jcc713 punching paper or putting meat on the menu?
My opinion and experiences....
for hunting it’s a matter of game and terrain. Short or long range. Medium or large game. An 06 or 308 or 270 are all great rounds on N A game. There’s a bajillion loads in between but if you want a starting point those three are great.
On paper, my 243 and and 22/250 are my best out to 500 yds.
I’m well aware there are better but that’s my quiver so I’m limited
Brandon Clum ?
I got one for my wife as a Christmas present in .300 win. mag. with a vortex scope and we both love it
I'm pretty sure the fluting was designed for when your in freezing conditions and breaking ice.
Sounds like marketing fluff. I have had cold-weather failures where the firing pin is frozen in place, but never had an issue moving the bolt.
A smooth bolt would just spin inside that ice packed into your gun for some unknown reason.... Flutes would just give space to pack more gunk into the action.
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Fantastic rifle, I love it
Mine is in 25-06 and i love it
If anyone knows of a different magazine I could use with mine in .270? Not a fan of the plastic
People talk about these budget bolt actions as if your taking it to afghan in war
I wonder if that soft butt pad opens up a hollo compartment ? Did you ever check that out
so if i get a boyd stock and bed it properly will my groups improve?
Don't see why not , also free float the barrel and use match grade ammo you should be shooting sub MOA .
Just ran through a box of 145 white box and found something concerning. Every round showed excessive pressure. Looking online I found that some loads from the factory were overly crimped and caused the case mouth not to index properly. The extra headspace caused primer puncture, flattening, cratering and bolt slam on the head. The first two boxes were fine so I didn’t look close until I gathered the brass from the third box. I called mossberg and they were helpful. Asked me to contact Winny first and then call mossberg back with load info etc. winny didn’t answer yet. Anyone else notice this yet?
I bought the moss burg art 100 whf
Picked one up on black Friday for $250 for my son. Took him to the range and he loves it.
I just bought this rifle (6.5 creedmoor) and I wanted to ask you a quick question. What has been been the most accurate cartridge(s) you have used to date? Thank you
I use 100 grain Winchester and American eagle in my 243 and it's a great cartridge
How’s the recoil for a young hunter starting out?
I am planning one of these in 270.
I recently purchased mine in .308 and bought some steel cased Monarch to play with. After 23 shots, the ejector piece tore right in half at the end of the bolt. Currently having to send back the ENTIRE rifle to Mossberg (apparently I have to) just to get the issue fixed under warranty. Gonna try and get someone else on the phone and see if I can just get a replacement end piece or entire bolt. If I have to send the gun back, might as well refund me.
They need the whole gun to ensure proper lockup with a new or refaced bolt.
Believe me having proper headspace is critical and well worth the effort
Can you review the Type 81 rifle?
He did. It's here
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About mine with scope como style 308 it hit bull with 100 yards the scope on it when I bought it from Walmart about 400 the scope they call dead ringer probably going up grade scope but I have no problem with mine sweet rifle
What ammo does yours like
It's a inexpensive gun. It's going for 219.00 at my local gun store now
CalamityEnsues that’s 100 less than anywhere.
Most likely used
$170 @ Bass Pro/Cabelas right now.
Jeremy Martin nothing left
I got my 243 it's a mossenburg patriot rifle 2yrs ago and it was 300 at a pawnshop and it was brand new
I have one in 308 short going to change to a boyd stock feather weight due to the instability issue i experienced last year. I bought it used but the previous owner took great care of it groups of 1.5 at 100 yards i love it. I've bagged hogs, deer, and sheep. Paid 150 dollars for it and worth every bit. I've shot many rifles in my life time i like this one the best.
$150 is a killer deal.
I just bought the 30.06 one with the camouflage stock but I can’t find ammo for it anywhere and I want to take to the rang so bad
I just bought the .308. Ammo is much easier to find for .308, in Ohio at least. I go to Vance outdoors to get my ammo. They have tons of it!
@@recemottashed4941 found some wolf ammo it shot really good but I don’t want to hunt with the wolf ammo I want to hunt with a core lock ammo
My local crappy tire was selling this rifle with a vortex scope for the same price as a savage 111 with a weaver scope. I was looking for a 300 win mag for bison hunting. The mossberg felt overly cheap in my hands, very light, the stock felt like toy plastic and the bolt just felt too light to me. I’m also suspicious when a rifle has a 250 dollar scope and is the same price as a rifle with a garbage scope. Needless to say I purchased the savage and put a leupold scope on it. To each their own, I like my heavy caliber rifles to have some heft to them.
I got the patriot with the marine coat and laminate stock chambered in 300 Win Mag. I can't say anything about the accuracy or whatnot, but it has that heft and looks great. I need a scope on mine, but then it'll be a great elk rifle I'm sure
So is the patriot in 6.5 creedmore a short action rifle.?
johnny6148 yes
If I had to choose , i'd Buy a Savage Axis in the Budget dept . They just work so well.
My Mossberg Patriot is shooting straight on at 250 to 300yrd perfect
Can you adjust the trigger to 5lbs or would you have to upgrade it?
Adjust it i think
Up to 7 pounds, low as 1.8?
I almost bought one today in ,243 but instead I chose the ruger American ranch in .450 bushmaster I cannot wait until I get to pick it up
tcat19861 they have this rifle in 450 bushmaster as well!
About a month ago, I won a Ruger American Ranch in .450 Bushmaster. I’m anxious to shoot it, but need to put glass on it first. Then on Saturday, 15 Feb, I won a Mossberg Patriot in .25-06. I’ve never owned that caiber, so I’m doing a little research.
@@JimmyDickens1 Where the hell are you winning these?😁👍 You find any extended mags for either? 7-10rd at least 450Bushmaster
Starry Night Pool & Spa Care Deer Unlimited banquets. They are a lot of fun and GREAT prizes, great food, and great fellowship with like-minded hunters. I’m currently 2-2 with winning a rifle at each banquet I’ve attended. I have not looked for an extended mag for either.
Very well put together presentation 👍
Bought one today and im in love
I just ordered one and haven't received it yet, What are your thoughts after 1 year?
@@MrCraigDNelson buddy it is my go to rifle anytime ! I invested in a Nikon buckmaster 2 scope and a threaded muzzle brake as well and I have never been happier. Easy to clean , the bolt and action are flawless. If you buy it I promise there is no buyers remorse
@@MrCraigDNelson your gonna be so happy my guy!
These rifles really are nice definitely worth the small amount of cost
Hi. I just looked at one off these with a vortex score for$435. Is it worth it?
@@alexandermcdole8464 I doubt you still need this info but I saw one without a scope for $305.
@@judahboyd2107 where??
Is this in the .450 bushmaster??
Theotis Taylor yes they make a 450 bushmaster model
If you have ever shot a 243, how does the recoil compare to the 6.5 Creedmoor?
A bit more punch but not bad at all. Less than a 308 by comparison
honestly I reckon 243's boot more than creedmores... felt recoil I shot a mates old ruger 243 and it was aggressive as fuck.. shot me mates 6.5 smooth as butter
Jai B wow struggling with a 243. I guess recoil is relative. My wife shoots a 243 and is eager to bump up to a 308. Again guess it’s relative.
Johnston didn't say struggle lol
said it was more aggressive
muzzle brakes tame even 300 win mags depends on the gun its weight barrel length etc
Jai B be the way your describing the aggressive as fuck recoil on a 243 which not forgetting to mention my 6 year old daughter hunts with. Implies you struggle with the aggressive as fuck recoil from the baby 243 cal bro it’s ok your a 6.5 bandwagoner admit it but don’t make yourself look like a pussy telling everyone the 243 is aggressive most ignorant and dumb thing I’ve ever heard of
Mine in 6.5 is sub moa at 100 yds
Just bought my gf one in 7mm-08 for her first hunting rifle. Hope she like it.
That's a powerful ass cartridge for her first. I can't talk. I taught my wife to shoot a pistol with a 40. Cause that's all I own.
I found the stock realy wanting. Weight was good. The magazine and it's mounnnting sleeve are. Poor quality... Pilar bedding helped. Bedding the action requires a lot of accura glass. I glassed in the magazine well to hold the magazine tighter. I am under 1 moa at 100yds. I struggled with it at 1000. I am looking at boyds for a stock replacement. I know the orix chassie system is avalible. But it costs more than the rifle. Boyds just doubles the cost. I am using a primary arms scope that is twice the cost of the rifle. I am hoping the rifle itself will be great with the new stock. 3 years into the plastic and it is warping and contacting the berrel. I have bent drilled and pinned the stock twice to hold it. I belive it is time for replacement.
Love the rifle, I found the magazine to be horrible. Any thoughts.
I have a walnut-stock version in .270. Of all the rifles I've owned over the years, this one is far and away my favorite. I wouldn't change a thing about it, including the magazine. The magazine weighs next to nothing, can't corrode, feed lips don't get bent out of shape, it is easy to load, cartridges feed reliably and smoothly out of it every single time, it drops out in my hands when empty and I unlatch it, it stays latched when it is supposed to, and it doesn't rattle in the rifle, whether loaded, unloaded, or somewhere in between.
I have to say I really wanted my 308 patriot to shoot accurate.. I handload all my ammo and used to benchrest shoot. I loaded up 165 Sierra game kings 46 g varget for hunting.. Oal( over all length) 2.755. Solid bench and rest my best groups where "4 @100 yrds.. Not impressed at all.. I didn't want to have to write this review.. I fired it cleaned etc.. Never had a rifle hit so poor.. Forgot to mention put 2x7x33 Leopold on rifle. Checked allen wrench stock bolts for tightness and same result.. So.. Going to make my OAL close to the lands and function in magazine. Will locktite stock.. Going to shoot some factory through it multiple times before using reloads again.. Will post after
facts not feelings send it ive had similar results. I think this rifle, while an affordable package, has quality control issues as some are not as accurate as others or consistent for whatever reason. I’ve seen multiple reviews reflecting this problem online.
@@Ghoosierunfortunately there true.. Haven't had the time to fool with it... I actually woke up thinking about this rifle this morning and if I can just send it back to the factory... Just a pain and wasn't expecting to go through the bs with it.. I won't buy another one.. Not that I needed this one.. But it does look good and I fell for the cheap price..
@@Ghoosier Are you keeping it? Have you tried anything to make it more accurate? Curious to know.. Thanks
No I haven’t had time to mess with it yet but will soon. Will let you know but the main thing that bugs me about this rifle is the inconsistency and seeing that others have the same issue I am leery of it now for hunting
@@Ghoosier thanks yeah I won't hunt with it ...not acceptable.. Good luck and any developments please share before I row my boat with it
I like this
This was 2 years ago: are you finding 6.5 creedmoor easier to find now?
Oh heck yes. It's really popular and priced right. Fantastic deer cartridge
@@Huntinggearguy Excellent!
To me the only weakness is the gun tanning not great, beware of rust, mine is model 2022
Does it have iron sights?
No
La de dah what is the barrel made from
4140 Steel. gun-drilled and button-rifled.
So many choices for cheap guns out there now. Most of them are a bit better then average as well. Might have to buy another safe.
id agree the quality is high but technically most cannot be better than average.
@@alexcurry5541 I meant the older and well respected models. Most $200 new rifles are better then old tried and true rifles from the 50’, 60’s and 70’s. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love many of those old rifles but a cheapo Savage made after 2017 is miles better then most of those old quality guns.
@@john-paulsilke893 Great clarification thank you
what is price of Mossberg Patriot Synthetic 7MM REM MAG.... and shipping cost to Pakistan
I don't sell guns, I'm just a reviewer.
I have the atr in .308. It came with a barska scope.
At 100 I'm shooting quarter sized groups.
I hear a handful of people that can't shoot under 1" @ 100 with the patriot. 🤔 not sure if its the rifle, scope or the shooter.
Do they make the Mossberg Patriot in a 7mm rifle
Yes, 7mm Rem Mag and 7mm-08
243 win faster round the one I like for Deer 🦌 hunting for years for my kid's
With less recoil for them. Mossberg is a good choice for the price.
Shit no one complains about plastic pmags, but on a bolty it's bad?
Pmags use higher quality polymers of you compare the two mags side to side you can tell the magpul is much higher quality
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Patriot or American?
Like, which is better?
Yeah, sorry. Thank you for replying. I've read a hand full articles on the best 4/5 best "affordable" rifles, after watching your reviews I liked these two the best. Which one would you recommend as being superior or having the best design?
I would invest in the MVP in .300 blackout or .308.
Takes AR-15 mags for the .300 blackout and AR-10 plus M14 mags for .308.
I'm a hairy werewolf your stash doesn't offend me I got a beard
You speak nice words, however; it is easy to detect those snickers behind you
Your back !
Mine didn’t have a clip it’s all built in
Magazine not a clip
Sad that the term clip is often mis used with gun owners.
Anyone know what the purpose of the spiral bolt is?🤔
Looks neat!
it looks cool lol but it also does save on weight even though the weight savings are minimal but it also helps if you hunt in bad climates so for example if its snowing your bolt wont get iced up and stick or if it gets a little dirty from mud or sand you can still easily cycle the bolt.
Gives a place for debris to go and reduces likelihood of gunk. Also saves weight.
It cuts down weight and is easier to cycle I have one and the bolt is amazing
Stick it up your ass and get back to us.
You do know a 270 is superior to a 6.5 right?
Superior in what way? The 270 delivers a little more speed at the muzzle, sure. A factory 130 grain 6.5 will do 2900 fps, while the 270 will send a 130 grain bullet at 3050 fps. But the 6.5CM is doing that in a short action, in an easier to reload, more inherently accurate case and has more bullet selection. None of that really matters that much for a hunting rifle, but I guess the short action bit helps make for a slightly lighter rifle.
I think I would rather have the 270. But that's just me
Wow! You need experience!
Yes very much
My question is why are you complaining about features
Would not trust this junk on a hunting trip. The extractors are extremely weak. Have broken two and no support from mossberg.
Mossberg has TERRIBLE customer service. I bought one brand new and mag sticks and they wouldn't warranty it
They wont adress the inherent flaws with the rifle design. Just keep marketing the poor quality items.
bullshit
@@scottdepuydt6605 yeah thats why replacement extractors are going out like pizzas on welfare cheque day. Talk to real gunsmiths and see what junk they are.
I got mine brand new for 300 at a pawn shop and it's very reliable
Nothing wrong with ploymer followers.
Not bashing but 1 1/2 N more MOA at 100yds is not that great of accuracy at all if ur only shooting 100yds then sure. But if your out at any range we will say 500 yds that means ur shooting a 7 1/2 inch group that's not gd at all
7 inch seems fine to me, that's like less in length than the chest of a person. what would you want kiddo?
@@millimeterpeter7159 not that and if ur going off from the size of a person then so be it but I go off the size of animals I'm going to harvest and that won't do. For me at 500 yrs I want to be sub MOA so around the 2 1/2 -3 " group
@@leecummings635 you do realize statistically you're going to have at least a 5 inch in the whereabouts if you already have a .75 to 1 moa group. Then you have other factors that will expand your grouping since in the 500m range you're entering the long range shooting territory
@@millimeterpeter7159 of course I realize I shoot long rang I reload all of my own ammo and 500 yards isn't all that far and there wld be no reason for a 7 inch group but it's also the shooter and everyone if shooting that far sld strive for sub MOA which for me is around a 2 1/2 inch group
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It is a basic hunting rifle
That plastic magazine looks and sounds cheap. I'm sure the plastic on the inside isn't any better.
The magazine works just fine..
I ran across one of these for 300 bucks today. Was going to buy it on the spot, and then I handled it. Very rough fit and finish. Sticky bolt, machine marks everywhere.
Not knocking on anybody who got one. It’s a nice cheap rifle, and you can beat the shit out of it without giving a damn if you scratch it up or run over the stock when you’re drunk.
But it really is an ugly duck.
Gentlemen why so butt hurt,everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's what makes us unique and different.
Why would anyone buy this with a synthetic stock?
Its less expensive
And lighter
Weather. If you're stuck in the rain, wood can swell and throw off longer shots.
gun snob much
Uhh uhh uhh uhh uhh..?????
Sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about
Great starter gun, .lousy reviewer though
You should stick to an impartial review and keep your personal comments out, makes you look like an amateur.
7mm Reloader there’s no point of an “impartial review”...personal opinions are useful in a review, otherwise you’re gaining nothing more than the info you can find on a product’s description from the manufacturer’s website.
What you want is an overview not a review.. beta..
Agreed, this asshat must be a terrible shot. I can shoot sub MOA all day long with Hornady SST 130 grain in .270 win with this rifle. Mine does have the laminate stock though, but, I find it difficult to believe that stock would make that big of a difference.