The reason I love this series (Fat Man on Batman) is that it reminds me of my childhood, spent theorising, arguing, joking & fantasizing about comic book movies with my best friend. He died at 16, in 2000. Missed out on all this MCU shit actually happening. As ridoculously good as the movies are, nerding out about it with like minded people is almost as much fun. Thanks, fellas.
Shot in the dark guess about Wonder Woman 2's story: Chernobyl was actually an attempt by the Soviets to harness mystical powers. The disaster opens a gate to the underworld and unleashes the undead and creatures from Tartarus. Steve is one of the spirits that comes back. Wonder Woman has to battle through possessed mutated creatures to save the survivors and close the portal to the underworld.
It could work within the confines of her giving up on humanity for a century and I def feel the antagonist should be another Greek figure (at least until we reach the current stream of events).
yo this was a good segmento you two...real chemistry had me actuslly laughing and idk if u guys smoked a blunt or just had a good day but by fsr the best fatman on batman ive ever watched
Alex Pollock wrong....jazz hands spidy was caused by the symbiote...spidy 2 was a great film...3 had venom team up with sandman and sucked floppy donkey balls.
I hate Spiderman 2 more than Spiderman 2. It's a movie about Spiderman where for half the movie, Spiderman is not Spiderman, and Tobey wasn't an interesting Peter either, so ew
I'm tired of critics saying superhero fatigue is setting into audiences, when Logan, Guardians, Wonder Woman and Spider-Man have all had huge box office draws. People just don't want to waste their money/time on crappy big budget films that have a shitty rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
I've always seen spidey as the perfect blend of Cap & Iron Man, he's got the heart and dignity and respect of Cap and then a younger but similar tech nerd personality and quips similar to Tony, and they've always had a ridiculous amount of parallels in the comics
I know that, people are always trying to tear down his image in the comics like J Jonah and Task Force, I just meant it in the sense that he shows alot of respect for others and carries himself with dignity, alot like cap
Spidey 2 was when he voluntarily gave up and happily walked through town to Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head. Spidey 3 was when he was taken over by the symbiote and went emo and danced embarrassingly in front of MJ.
they could bring Chris Pine back as a member of the green lantern Corps. Supposedly Pine was up for a part in the green lantern movie. That could be cool but he'll probably just be a hallucination.
Maybe Hades didn't involve himself in Ares' fight with the other gods, and after resolving some conflict with him that may or may not be tied into the cold war, Diana is able to negotiate the release of Steve from the underworld, which would make him the fish-out-of-water after rejoining the land of the living...?
The Berlin Wall came down in the 80's Kevin, so yes, if that is when the sequel is set, definitely means it is in the 80's. As for Trevor, I bet they go the route that the TV series did when it switched to the "modern" time frame and have the 80's version of Steve Trevor be the son or grandson of the original (would need to be grandson for age/time).
I don't need to see another Manson Family movie no matter who Is directing it. Those psychos get too much attention as it is. Kevin Smith, you are one of the top 5 American filmmakers. Speaking of great American filmmakers, if you are not watching David Lynch's Twin Peaks: The Return, you are missing out on one of the best cinematic experiences ever.
"Aliens landed and we stole all their shit." Roswell, pretty much. Computers went from being hangar sized vacuum tube monstrosities like ENIAC in 1946 to household appliances within a few decades after that. It all began in '47.
In the Wonder Woman 70s TV series, season 2 Steve Trevor is the son of season 1 Steve Trevor (both played by Lyle Waggoner of course). So you're not that off the mark guys :p
I don't think people are realizing how insane a movie surrounding the events of the Manson murders by Tarantino could be. They hear Tarantino and Manson... and a lot of people automatically think 'that's been done, there's so many movies about Manson, why bother?!'....... and i'm like.. uhhh Tarantino isn't going to give us a cookie cutter story about the events of what happened, he's gonna spin the fuckin wheel and do something clever no one is expecting. At this point I trust Quentin with almost anything.
At about 21:00 : Isn't that kind of the thing with Marvel's Captain America? He had a thing for Peggy Carter, and now in present day he has a relationship with her niece, is it? Not as close as Peggy's daughter, but close enough to be slightly uncomfortable. ^_^
Spiderman 3 making the most money makes sense because the trailers made it look fantastic. Sandman looked awesome, the fight between Peter and Harry looked liked it would be intense, and then Venom which was a big draw for many..... obviously, the movie didn't pan out too well. But you can see why so many went to see it. Not to mention Spiderman 2 was fantastic so we expected it to at least be on par.
Q.Tarantino (Producer, Director, Writer, also as a R.Downey Jr. reporter i.e. "Natural Born Killers") + E.Roth (Producer of blood 'n' guts , Writer) + K.Russell (as C.Manson i.e. "Death Proof" and W.Harrelson "N.B.K") = yeah, right... in the trash it goes!
SenseMaker wrong....spidy 2 had Dr. Ock and was great as far as most fans seem to think...jazzhands spidy was 3 ...had venom and sucked bloody ass...at least in part due to that dumb Chicago wanna be jazz hands scene.
MDI Gaming Kevin a d his bro here we're trying to figure out which (Toby McGuire) spider-man flick had the jazzy dance scene where he tries to use Gwen to make MJ jelous...these 2 said it was the second film...but that's wrong so I informed them of their falicy and gave examples to prove my point....why what's your gripe about my nitpick?
MDI Gaming I'm typing on a dumb smartphone I've had a few weeks...I miss my pay as you go phone but my new job requires me to have this overpiced crap..,.the auto.correct keeps changing words and I keep making it worse when I try to fix shit because my huge fingers can't press just 1 button since the ''buttons'' don't exist on actual space
So what do I need to do get a comedy written by Kevin, Directed by Quentin and Dir of Photography Robert Rodriguez... The trifecta of the Soul of Indie.
Kevin your one of my favorite directors you need to make a Star Wars movie or SW cartoon. Something SW. You are a capable director and you love Star Wars.
Hey Kevin, if I can get you a spot in Greenville SC would you come and do a F.o.B? You kinda said you were never coming back last time and that hurt our feelings.
I don't want to diminish Bright without seeing it, but I'm getting hints of Alien Nation in all the articles I've read on this. Sci-Fi/Fantasy has a tradition of using fantastical elements to address real world topics (like law enforcement race relations for example) but this feels a little on the nose. Who knows maybe it'll be great.
Hey Kevin and Marc, it could be possible to bring back Steve Trevor with the god of death right? In a movie with Zeus and Ares and all that, how about Hates? You could also make Steve the bad guy.
HONESTLY: Watch Django and picture Will Smith and what he brings to the table as an actor... Also consider that Tarantino had wrote that movie thinking and hoping Will Smith would be the titular actor.. The movie I feel WOULD have been better.. HOWEVER.. Jamie Foxx fuckin' owned that movie and his cameo at the end of 1,000 Ways To Die In The West was spectacular. He brought it to that picture and it's like, I couldn't even picture anyone else now at this point.
In fact there could be a nice movie where she wants Trevor to be resuscitated but the deal with Hades would be for her to fight on the Russian side or something for years and years before he's brought back. You can have her help the Vietcongs win the war or something, then Trevor comes back and tells "wtf are you doing ? All this for me ?" and she switches sides back.
Hey, I can't believe they didn't come up with this: Wonder Woman 2, Aries comes back and takes the form of Steve Trevor, fuckin boom! Easy money and makes since, she'd have a hell of a time coming to terms that and what she's seeing and having to kill him.
Chris Pine SHOULD be The Martian Manhunter, and use the physical characteristics of "Steve" for the mostly CGI character, but use Manhunter disguising himself as "Steve Trevor still alive" until the big reveal... Have him return when Wonder Woman hollers at him to help save the world.. If it was Kevin Fiege, they'd think all this through... But DC* ain't got this shit on lock unfortunately...
Ive scene every spidey since 2002 on day 1 except original spidey 2 cuz i was sick , but not for without trying ._._i still day have much hype for homecoming
i am a huge fan of quentin tarantino, but the manson murders have always creeped me the hell out, so this might be his first film that i don't see, which is really sad...
come to Omaha or Chicago! I'm born and raised from Chicago but have lived in Omaha for the past 10 years+. I'll go home and sleep at my parents house if I need to or get tons of people to see this in omaha!
By the way, you guys are the only ones claiming that the gorgeous Margot Robbie is being discussed to be Sharon Tate. Everyone else on UA-cam is saying that Tarantino wants the much-less-attractive Jennifer Lawrence in the coveted role.
Dianna did say in BvS that she had killed things from another world before. No reason the Martian Manhunter can't show up pursued by some white martians.
spidy wasn't singing n dancin because he was happy...and he wasn't giving up being spidy in the plot at that point....jazzhands spidy was a direct result of the venom symbiote and its negative impact on his mind.
The reason I love this series (Fat Man on Batman) is that it reminds me of my childhood, spent theorising, arguing, joking & fantasizing about comic book movies with my best friend. He died at 16, in 2000. Missed out on all this MCU shit actually happening. As ridoculously good as the movies are, nerding out about it with like minded people is almost as much fun. Thanks, fellas.
Kevin and Mark y'all bring me so much joy. Thank you
The son of Steve Trevor thing was done in the Lynda Carter series. Steve Sr. was her interest in WWII. Steve Jr. was her interest in the 70s.
What a cougar!
Tracey L Shore
Lol...gross
Shot in the dark guess about Wonder Woman 2's story: Chernobyl was actually an attempt by the Soviets to harness mystical powers. The disaster opens a gate to the underworld and unleashes the undead and creatures from Tartarus. Steve is one of the spirits that comes back. Wonder Woman has to battle through possessed mutated creatures to save the survivors and close the portal to the underworld.
It could work within the confines of her giving up on humanity for a century and I def feel the antagonist should be another Greek figure (at least until we reach the current stream of events).
All whilst keeping it low key, otherwise be hard for Bruce Wayne not to know to ask for her help to go kill this Superman bitch in BvS
Kevin is so jolly
yo this was a good segmento you two...real chemistry had me actuslly laughing and idk if u guys smoked a blunt or just had a good day but by fsr the best fatman on batman ive ever watched
Kevin Smith's reaction at 12:55 is PRICELESS. So awesome. He seemed genuinely in awe.
Tim Roth as Charles Manson.
Mario Tim Roth doing The Nutty Professor 4 and he plays all the roles. Confirmed?
Weinstein will probably make Quentin cast Channing Tatum.
Damon Herriman as Charles Manson
Oh my god! The look on Kevin's face after Marc says, "And so what if Will Smith was an orc cop?" Fucking priceless!
thumb pointing move/dble take wide-eyed to the audience as the dog randomly starts barking is a huge silent bob moment lol
It was Spider-Man 2
Alex Pollock wrong....jazz hands spidy was caused by the symbiote...spidy 2 was a great film...3 had venom team up with sandman and sucked floppy donkey balls.
He's referring to the "Raindrops keep falling" No power no responsibility part from Spider-Man 2. (FYI "Spidey" has an E in it)
I hate Spiderman 2 more than Spiderman 2. It's a movie about Spiderman where for half the movie, Spiderman is not Spiderman, and Tobey wasn't an interesting Peter either, so ew
Can anyone tell where Kevin gets his hockey jerseys?
if marvel still has rights the Feige's poster could use the tag line "It's Clobberin time"
I'm tired of critics saying superhero fatigue is setting into audiences, when Logan, Guardians, Wonder Woman and Spider-Man have all had huge box office draws. People just don't want to waste their money/time on crappy big budget films that have a shitty rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Doug Unfunny I've definitely got Marvel Fatigue, I thought Wonder Woman was 100% better than Homecoming.
They are very different movies and I enjoyed them both
Doug Unfunny They're also some of the highest rated movies of the year so far; 3 of them above 90%
Tarantino said he is only going to make 10 movies.
Since he will have all kinds of free time I would love to see him do something with GTA V.
A Tarintino GTA movie....
TAKE MY FUCKING CASH NOW!!!
She could go into Greek underworld and go and get him from Hades in the sequel. That's how they could bring Steve back.
that rainbow song was in spiderman 2
What cinematic universe does jay and silent bob exist in??? be sweet if you should up in the Spider-Man/marvel homecoming universe.
Damn, that 30 minutes just flew by.
I've always seen spidey as the perfect blend of Cap & Iron Man, he's got the heart and dignity and respect of Cap and then a younger but similar tech nerd personality and quips similar to Tony, and they've always had a ridiculous amount of parallels in the comics
I know that, people are always trying to tear down his image in the comics like J Jonah and Task Force, I just meant it in the sense that he shows alot of respect for others and carries himself with dignity, alot like cap
Surprisingly David Dakuvney's show 2 seasons "Aquarius" covered the Manson story it was really good too.
The dogs: "IT WAS SPIDER-MAN 2, MARC! I THOUGHT YOU HAD CRED!!"
Since Marc Ranked all steven spielberg movies and told us out loud,, i would love to hear both of your rankings for all Marvel Movies
Billy Joel's "I Didn't Start The Fire" is from 1989 or 1990. Post Reagan and mostly post Cold War.
Spidey 2 was when he voluntarily gave up and happily walked through town to Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head.
Spidey 3 was when he was taken over by the symbiote and went emo and danced embarrassingly in front of MJ.
Who are the top 5 directors?
#1- James Cameron, #2-Stephen Spielberg, #3-Nolan, #4-Quinten T.
This episode had me in stitches. The tangent on the morality of murder was hilarious
Kevin Smith Congrats for your Onomatopoeia character that will be one of the villains of the next season from Arrow
I just googled the Tarantino poster. WHOA!!!!
they could bring Chris Pine back as a member of the green lantern Corps. Supposedly Pine was up for a part in the green lantern movie. That could be cool but he'll probably just be a hallucination.
Mr. Heggo'sChan he'll yeah he would be perfect.
That was my one real point of sadness during Wonder Woman. That Chris Pine can not be Hal Jordan. He seems born for that role.
Maybe Hades didn't involve himself in Ares' fight with the other gods, and after resolving some conflict with him that may or may not be tied into the cold war, Diana is able to negotiate the release of Steve from the underworld, which would make him the fish-out-of-water after rejoining the land of the living...?
Kevin's impression of New Yorkers defending Spidey from Rami's first one is so damn hilarious
Bright is basically the comic Fables (aka Wolf Among Us) in live action. Trailers haven't convinced me but I'll give it a shot
LOVE the animal contributions btw....Brad Pit is allll wrong. I'd prefer Jake Gyllenhaal.
Mellowcanuck33 Have you seen Jake in Okja?
The Berlin Wall came down in the 80's Kevin, so yes, if that is when the sequel is set, definitely means it is in the 80's. As for Trevor, I bet they go the route that the TV series did when it switched to the "modern" time frame and have the 80's version of Steve Trevor be the son or grandson of the original (would need to be grandson for age/time).
I don't need to see another Manson Family movie no matter who Is directing it. Those psychos get too much attention as it is. Kevin Smith, you are one of the top 5 American filmmakers. Speaking of great American filmmakers, if you are not watching David Lynch's Twin Peaks: The Return, you are missing out on one of the best cinematic experiences ever.
I had to like the video, if only because of "wider-men on spider-man" opening. So good.
I took my 5 person family to see Spider-Man Homecoming one day, then took 2 of my friends the next day. So I paid for 8 tickets on opening weekend.
Shout out to New Brunswick!! I don't live there anymore, but woohoo!
"Aliens landed and we stole all their shit." Roswell, pretty much. Computers went from being hangar sized vacuum tube monstrosities like ENIAC in 1946 to household appliances within a few decades after that. It all began in '47.
In the Wonder Woman 70s TV series, season 2 Steve Trevor is the son of season 1 Steve Trevor (both played by Lyle Waggoner of course). So you're not that off the mark guys :p
I don't think people are realizing how insane a movie surrounding the events of the Manson murders by Tarantino could be. They hear Tarantino and Manson... and a lot of people automatically think 'that's been done, there's so many movies about Manson, why bother?!'....... and i'm like.. uhhh Tarantino isn't going to give us a cookie cutter story about the events of what happened, he's gonna spin the fuckin wheel and do something clever no one is expecting. At this point I trust Quentin with almost anything.
At about 21:00 : Isn't that kind of the thing with Marvel's Captain America? He had a thing for Peggy Carter, and now in present day he has a relationship with her niece, is it? Not as close as Peggy's daughter, but close enough to be slightly uncomfortable. ^_^
Tarantino's Manson movie versus John Roecker's Manson (Hanson) movie. Let's see who wins.
Zak Penn also wrote X-Men The Last Stand...
Hey, guys, how about you coming to Warsaw Comic Con Fall Edition 2017?
Spiderman 3 making the most money makes sense because the trailers made it look fantastic. Sandman looked awesome, the fight between Peter and Harry looked liked it would be intense, and then Venom which was a big draw for many..... obviously, the movie didn't pan out too well. But you can see why so many went to see it. Not to mention Spiderman 2 was fantastic so we expected it to at least be on par.
Uhh that's the 60's I'm dead Marc that was priceless
You're wrong, Marc.
Marvel + DC movies you never knew you wanted:
Wonder Woman Jessica Jones team up.
Batman Antman team up.
Marc's Serenity shirt is a win.
Spider-Man 2 had the raindrops keep falling on my head scene.
You failed to mention the glass of wine Quentin is holding in that poster
22:18 '80's fashion was shit' LOL I was a B-boy in the 80's. We were fly as shit! :)
lmao the dogs
Q.Tarantino (Producer, Director, Writer, also as a R.Downey Jr. reporter i.e. "Natural Born Killers") + E.Roth (Producer of blood 'n' guts , Writer) + K.Russell (as C.Manson i.e. "Death Proof" and W.Harrelson "N.B.K") = yeah, right... in the trash it goes!
You can read the script for Bright online.
The Will Smith fantasy races with cops movie sounds a lot like the cyberpunk-with-magic RPG Shadowrun.
I'd like DC to remain separate from Marvel. I get it that Marvel is more popular but DC has a dark edge which I appreciate.
It's Spider-man 2
SenseMaker wrong....spidy 2 had Dr. Ock and was great as far as most fans seem to think...jazzhands spidy was 3 ...had venom and sucked bloody ass...at least in part due to that dumb Chicago wanna be jazz hands scene.
MDI Gaming Kevin a d his bro here we're trying to figure out which (Toby McGuire) spider-man flick had the jazzy dance scene where he tries to use Gwen to make MJ jelous...these 2 said it was the second film...but that's wrong so I informed them of their falicy and gave examples to prove my point....why what's your gripe about my nitpick?
MDI Gaming I'm typing on a dumb smartphone I've had a few weeks...I miss my pay as you go phone but my new job requires me to have this overpiced crap..,.the auto.correct keeps changing words and I keep making it worse when I try to fix shit because my huge fingers can't press just 1 button since the ''buttons'' don't exist on actual space
So what do I need to do get a comedy written by Kevin, Directed by Quentin and Dir of Photography Robert Rodriguez... The trifecta of the Soul of Indie.
Do a Fatman on Batman at the Prince Charles Cinema in London, they'd love this stuff.
The dancing Spider-Man scene with the emo hair was in Spider-Man 3 when he decides to embrace the black symbiote suit
Kevin your one of my favorite directors you need to make a Star Wars movie or SW cartoon. Something SW. You are a capable director and you love Star Wars.
Can't wait for Comic-Con!
Hey Kevin, if I can get you a spot in Greenville SC would you come and do a F.o.B? You kinda said you were never coming back last time and that hurt our feelings.
Hey, G-Vegas! Love this little town.
Julian Barratt is in my opinion the perfect actor for the part of Manson.
I don't want to diminish Bright without seeing it, but I'm getting hints of Alien Nation in all the articles I've read on this.
Sci-Fi/Fantasy has a tradition of using fantastical elements to address real world topics (like law enforcement race relations for example) but this feels a little on the nose.
Who knows maybe it'll be great.
Raindrops song was Spider-Man 2.
Hey Kevin and Marc, it could be possible to bring back Steve Trevor with the god of death right? In a movie with Zeus and Ares and all that, how about Hates? You could also make Steve the bad guy.
Kevin, Marc. Shadow run. It's probably Shadow run. The Will Smith movie on Netflix.
HONESTLY: Watch Django and picture Will Smith and what he brings to the table as an actor... Also consider that Tarantino had wrote that movie thinking and hoping Will Smith would be the titular actor.. The movie I feel WOULD have been better.. HOWEVER..
Jamie Foxx fuckin' owned that movie and his cameo at the end of 1,000 Ways To Die In The West was spectacular. He brought it to that picture and it's like, I couldn't even picture anyone else now at this point.
Mark
Can we do more movie reviews in the car?
Truth! Reservoir Dogs is my favorite movie ever.
😂😂😂 we didn't start the fire!!! 🤣🤣☺️
In fact there could be a nice movie where she wants Trevor to be resuscitated but the deal with Hades would be for her to fight on the Russian side or something for years and years before he's brought back. You can have her help the Vietcongs win the war or something, then Trevor comes back and tells "wtf are you doing ? All this for me ?" and she switches sides back.
Hey, I can't believe they didn't come up with this: Wonder Woman 2, Aries comes back and takes the form of Steve Trevor, fuckin boom! Easy money and makes since, she'd have a hell of a time coming to terms that and what she's seeing and having to kill him.
12:33 I don't get the joke, might be because I'm english
*dogs bark in the distance*
I love this two-bit operation! :)
Diana goes to Hades to get Steve back, but gets trapped there for decades. That's why she didn't stop WWII. Done.
If Parks were still alive he would CRUSH the role as Charles Manson
Wider-men on Spider-Man!!
Raindrops keep falling is absolutely in Spider-Man 2.
here is a break down of Quinten Tarantino's next movie .... close ups of women's bare feet, swearing and a Mexican stand off.
rain drops was on spiderman 2
Chris Pine SHOULD be The Martian Manhunter, and use the physical characteristics of "Steve" for the mostly CGI character, but use Manhunter disguising himself as "Steve Trevor still alive" until the big reveal... Have him return when Wonder Woman hollers at him to help save the world..
If it was Kevin Fiege, they'd think all this through... But DC* ain't got this shit on lock unfortunately...
Ive scene every spidey since 2002 on day 1 except original spidey 2 cuz i was sick , but not for without trying ._._i still day have much hype for homecoming
i am a huge fan of quentin tarantino, but the manson murders have always creeped me the hell out, so this might be his first film that i don't see, which is really sad...
It seems like a pretty serious subject, and I can't imagine how he would inject his usual sense of sense of fun into such a story.
come to Omaha or Chicago! I'm born and raised from Chicago but have lived in Omaha for the past 10 years+. I'll go home and sleep at my parents house if I need to or get tons of people to see this in omaha!
By the way, you guys are the only ones claiming that the gorgeous Margot Robbie is being discussed to be Sharon Tate. Everyone else on UA-cam is saying that Tarantino wants the much-less-attractive Jennifer Lawrence in the coveted role.
Dianna did say in BvS that she had killed things from another world before. No reason the Martian Manhunter can't show up pursued by some white martians.
Thumbs for the Ed Harris reading alone
ok.. you guys "just" smoked XD great stuff!
spidy wasn't singing n dancin because he was happy...and he wasn't giving up being spidy in the plot at that point....jazzhands spidy was a direct result of the venom symbiote and its negative impact on his mind.
do what they did in The Raid 2, have Chris Pane come back playing his twin brother Stephen Troy o,o
Wonder Woman wasn't affected by the poisonous gas that instantly killed the whole village, so how would they be able to gas or drug her?
calling it, Wonder Woman is the one who brings down the Berlin Wall
Spider-Man 2 was so incredible, he forgot what happened.
Even if Steve survived he'd be like literally 100 years old and even his son would be fucking 60 so it'd have to be his grandson.
If Steve Trevor had a son, he would be at least 62 years old in 1980.