The True EVIL Behind Monster Energy | Did they just buy Bang after bankrupting them?

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • In this video we are going to discuss the latest news about Monster Energy Company purchasing Vital Pharmaceuticals, the makers of Bang Energy. The battle between Monster and Bang Energy has gone on for several years now, but recently after several lost lawsuits, Bang has been hit with hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits causing them to file bankruptcy. Now that many things have transpired throughout the bankruptcy, the company has gone to auction and the highest bidder is currently Monster Energy... the company that bankrupt them. Sounds shady to me. Check out the review for the details and MY thoughts on all of this.
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  • @fukayusugma2074
    @fukayusugma2074 Рік тому +15

    They might be evil, but the Cherry Limeade Reign is straight up fantastic.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +6

      because it was made by the DEVIL!!! 😂😂😂

    • @ashleymarie6682
      @ashleymarie6682 Рік тому

      🤢 🤢🤢🤢 🤮 🤮🤮🤮🤮 monster is gross. Period.

  • @sonicdesignz9362
    @sonicdesignz9362 Рік тому +10

    What really annoys me with Monster Energy is that their formula and flavors are basic.
    Bang, Ghost and C4 easily outclass Monster Energy. Yet Monster refuse to make a nootropic based energy drink formula or bring in interesting flavors like Bang did.
    They dont want to jmprove their energy drink to rise above the competition, yet theyre petty enough to take them out by suing them into bankruptcy. Makes zero sense.

    • @deszi6936
      @deszi6936 Рік тому +1

      Suing them along wasn’t the reason why bang failed . They failed bcuz JO ran it into the ground he ruined a relationship with Pepsi and hundreds of retailers who he never paid . He had to pay Pepsi over $200m plus royalties to get out of his contract .it’s his business decisions that cost bang to fail in the last few years

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +3

      True, they could have come up with more innovative flavors and never did. At least when Monster came out with Reign they tried some new things, which were really good, but never really improved on the Monster drinks.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      @deszi6936 Bang definitely did have a lot more problems that just Monster and Jack did go a bit overboard. The whole Pepsi issue was a mess and although none of us know the complete truth behind what happened with Pepsi and Bang (just bits and peices from both sides), Bang broke the agreement which was a major flaw. They could have maybe survived that lawsuit, but the Monster lawsuit on top of it was the icing on the cake. Well, a few Monster lawsuits.

    • @sauce773
      @sauce773 Місяць тому

      Reign are good and they are part of monster

  • @LilGasmask
    @LilGasmask Рік тому +9

    I’m really torn on this one. I’m a big monster fan but have always hated how they sue anyone that they can even tho they aren’t even competitors. When they sued Bang I was kinda happy about it because the I really didn’t like Jack Owoc. Monsters lawsuit showed studies that there wasn’t any “super creatine” in Bang but all the studies were Independent and had different results so that is a big red flag. But since Jack Owoc also called Bang “a miracle drink that could reverse mental re--“ I just don’t feel comfortable believing anything he says. I’m happy Jack is out of the picture but I don’t know if monster needed to flex there power like that. It’s all very confusing.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Lots of issues with both sides but it just got uglier and uglier.

    • @Gogo-bu6rd
      @Gogo-bu6rd Рік тому +1

      I have NEVER heard anyone be the wiser that “super creatine”isn’t actually creatine . They used this confusion to their advantage and have had this coming honestly.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      I agree with the creatine issue.
      Don’t agree with the situation talked about in this video.

  • @princredible5670
    @princredible5670 Рік тому +8

    Bang was originally sued for making claims about their benefits that were false. The second suit was originally from another company that owns the Bang brand name and VPX wasn’t paying them and then monster joined in on the suit.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the info! I’ve actually covered these topics in other videos if you’d like to check them out! 😀

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 Рік тому +7

    Monster also sued a video game for containing the name Monster

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +3

      Yep, lots of companies have been sued by them. Its what they do.

    • @bloodredroses88
      @bloodredroses88 Рік тому +1

      Not just one, It was gods and monsters(immortals fenix rising)/ monster hunter (which was created before the energy drink lol)/ dark deception monsters and mortals and they even sued nintendo for Pokemon for pocket monsters. They're a nobhead company lol

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Рік тому +1

      @@bloodredroses88 Yeah lol

  • @AfterTheScales
    @AfterTheScales Рік тому +10

    As a big supporter of Monster Energy Beverages and their other products like Reign, NOS, and Full Throttle, I’m disappointed to hear how they are handling things. I feel like Mr. Owoc from Bang wasn’t always the most honest person when it comes to promoting his Energy Drinks but at least I would like to see them save Bang from being discontinued all together and off the shelves for good. Thanks for sharing your opinion caffeine man.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      No problem! Thanks for your input as well! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @calebwright9359
      @calebwright9359 Рік тому +3

      Owoc isn’t honest or a good guy. Terrible rep. but he got screwed but that’s what happens when you try to take competition from a almost trillion dollar company 😂😂😂

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      ooooffff! Such a fierce business world out there!

  • @amasterfuldesktop4935
    @amasterfuldesktop4935 Рік тому +8

    This is the kind of investigative journalism I signed up for

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for signing up!
      Unfortunately I don't do much investigative journalism.... just energy drink reviews 😂😂😂

    • @amasterfuldesktop4935
      @amasterfuldesktop4935 Рік тому +3

      @@CaffeineMan1 nah you investigate those energy drink labels like nobody’s business

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂🤣😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @SpartanWolf222
    @SpartanWolf222 Рік тому +9

    Honestly, the only reason I abstain from trying Monster energy drinks is how ridiculously litigious they are similar to Bethesda with commonplace trademark names because they happen to use the same word in a completely unrelated market. If the company was around when Monster Hunter or even Pokemon first came out, I would guarantee both companies would change their names after enough legal disputes.

  • @rockybalboa3150
    @rockybalboa3150 Рік тому +2

    Sad day , monster even ripped off bang with reign . Bang created the performance energy category a billion dollar category at this point and is the biggest loser in it all . So crazy .

  • @mrmorsoman3414
    @mrmorsoman3414 Рік тому +4

    "dont drink monster" oh man i just finnished my second can just now 😅

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂 I don't expect people to stop drinking.
      I just know I won't.
      Curious how this will all pan out.

  • @Breakware
    @Breakware Рік тому +6

    Thank you for speaking out. Not buying Monster anymore. I love Bang's products and C4. Really sad to hear of about Bang.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +3

      No problem. I wanted to get the facts out there to keep everyone informed... but I knew people would ask me what I thought of it all, so I figured Id include it all in one video.
      Soooo many better drinks out there, so Im with you.

    • @TobiLaroux
      @TobiLaroux Рік тому +2

      yep, I rarely get Monster, cause they are loaded with sugar, but when they have a 0 sugar drink, if it sounds good, I'd try it. Now I'm done with their company, and will only drink C4, and Ghost, and other brands I can find locally, ie. Bucked up, Mt. Dew Energy, or Rise, or w/e it is now lol.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      So many great options!

    • @TobiLaroux
      @TobiLaroux Рік тому

      @@CaffeineMan1 Yep, wish they would get more Raze flavors in my local shops. One of the best brands imo

  • @matt007
    @matt007 Рік тому +2

    I stopped drinking Bang because 300mg is just a bit much. I stick w/Ghost or Ryze but I rarely drink Monster. But they buy Bang, I won’t drink Bang/Monster again.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, 300 too much in general for 1 drink. Even though I don’t drink Bang often this monster thing is ridiculous.

  • @trashcompactorYT
    @trashcompactorYT Рік тому +11

    Disgusting behavior from Monster.

  • @bexxshort
    @bexxshort Рік тому +2

    I'm not a fan of Monster or Bang energy drinks but I absolutely love Bangs Redline energy drinks. They are the only energy drinks that don't make me sick. Monster sux.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Sadly, Monster plans on discontinuing all the other VPX product lines and only keeping a small amount of the Bang flavors.

  • @sasho7917
    @sasho7917 Рік тому +4

    BTW, how long until Monster co goes after Sesame St for Cookie Monster.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +5

      I think cookie monster was copyrighted well before Monster Energy came out. If anything, Cookie Monster could be our next hero and go after Monster!!!

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Рік тому +2

      ​@@CaffeineMan1yup

  • @TheEricJBotelho84
    @TheEricJBotelho84 Рік тому +1

    As a merchandiser, Bang is one of the energy drinks that Polar Beverages carries, I personally don’t care for them. I noticed you have UpTime, Sparkling Ice, A Shoc, and C4, those drinks Polar Beverages does carries, I hope my company does get rid of them

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      If I recall correctly, Monster doesnt have any connections to Polar, so there is a decent chance Monster will take the formula and have it produced by one of its own manufacturers. Then again, they may just let Bangs manufacturer procedures continue to do its own thing under their ownership.

  • @TheHawkeyeGuru
    @TheHawkeyeGuru Рік тому +2

    The two biggest companies - Red Bull and Monster - yet the worst tasting energy drinks and lack of originality. Monopoly is not good in business. The best energy drink companies are those that are smaller yet have the best quality and flavors.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Im hoping all the amazing little guys rise up and overtake the big guys. C4, Ghost, Abe, Gorilla Mind, GFuel, RYSE and more, Lets Goooooo!!!!!!

    • @MikeHunt-zy3cn
      @MikeHunt-zy3cn 3 місяці тому

      ​@@CaffeineMan1 same, hope they rise up to add variety to the market and force the old giants to have to innovate.

  • @tonhao99
    @tonhao99 Рік тому +2

    Caffeine Man but Reign descontinued some flavors in USA and in Europe. Reign in USA descontinued Lemon HDZ, Mang-o Matic and Sour Apple. I think Monster Energy ask to Reign for descontinued all the flavors of Reign in USA and Europe for buy Bang Energy.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Since Reign is owned by Monster it makes sense they would discontinue some drinks. Monster will always discontinue a drink if its not hitting the right sales number. They come out with so many drinks, theres not enough room on the shelves to stock them all so they have to discontinue some to make room for others. Makes sense they would do the same thing with Reign flavors.

  • @rontazman3829
    @rontazman3829 4 місяці тому

    Taking monster out of the picture the CEO of BANG was a slimeball. He tried breaking his distributor contract, got sued and lost! Tried naming one of his flavors Purple Rain, got sued and lost. Yes Prince owns the copyright to Purple Rain. There is more to this list.

  • @mrs.u_b_chillin9097
    @mrs.u_b_chillin9097 Рік тому +1

    Hello 👋 I just stumbled upon your video, thank you for this recap! My biggest question I dwell on is: Will Monter continue to produce Bangs??? I drink Bangs everyday, my goto is Star Blast#1!!!! I have cleaned out every store, gas station, liquor store, anywhere in my area. I am now 😮 going nuts trying to find my drink and going nuta!!! 😂 to some I might soundboard but I drink 3-5 Star Blast daily and I need my caffeine 🥴😱🫣 like most I started with monsters here, red bull there, but since Bang started it changed the spectrum for me!!! I've been a high Torrance caffeine intake nut for several years, after my last daughter I couldn't drink coffee (which I would drink 3 or 3 venti coffee with 4 add shots daily), anymore. Kudos caffeine man, im glad to see I'm not the only caffeine nut 😅😂😂

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      The current plan for Monster is to retire all of the products VPX sells, so no more Redline, Vooz, Stokced and other VPX supplements. They DO plan on still making and selling Bang because Bang WAS the 3rd top selling energy drink in the world before going bankrupt. Unfortunately, in typical Monster fashion, they will be discontinuing more than half of the drinks currently in the line. Fingers Crossed none of them are yours!

  • @seanbrennan3675
    @seanbrennan3675 Рік тому +1

    I think your missing something here. Business is cut throat. All companies spend more on litigation then you realize. Protecting your brand and brand integrity is something that every company does. Being a publicly traded company allows these laws suits to be public knowledge. A company like Red Bull that is not public does not have to disclose any litigation.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Im fairly confident that I didnt miss that, and did mention I know business is cut throat. Ive also covered the lawsuits between Bang and Monster over the past several years in a couple of videos, so I covered a lot of the topic.... therefore, I wasnt able to fit EVERYTHING into this video, so this video could be considered part of a set of videos. If it seem like I missed anything here, it has probably been covered in a separate video and i really, really, really try to cut down on the lengths of my videos 😂, which usually means not repeating myself. I understand everything you are saying and I understand protecting the brand, but that was not the case here. Monster was brutal and more than just cut throat. This was cut your throat, watch you bleed out, then right before you die, patch your throat up, keep you on life support, then put you in a prison and make you watch them destroy all the brands you created and only sell the top rated products. 😂😂😂 (otherwise know as another day at work for businesses).

  • @GG_ADHD
    @GG_ADHD Рік тому +9

    Monster is hard on my stomach I think anyway so I tend to skip that one. Bang had so many options and good flavors it was refreshing to see in stores for a while. Bang sort of paved the way for other drinks.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +4

      Very true. They honestly revolutionized the energy drink game with preworkout and unique flavors.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      @anthonymercado8126 Definitely one of the higher caffeine counts out there.

  • @flowercopTV
    @flowercopTV Рік тому +2

    Your description of monster at the beginning is exactly how I’d describe Jack Owoc lol 🤡

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      I bet you were wondering which I was talking about! 😂

  • @TheOwocFamily
    @TheOwocFamily Рік тому +1

    Very articulate and good insight! We appreciate you more than you know!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I appreciate it and best of luck with everything you do!

  • @jacksampsonforever
    @jacksampsonforever Рік тому +2

    Happy Independence day! I bought a C4 variety pack and I'm drinking up!

  • @dgator75
    @dgator75 Рік тому +2

    Agree 💯.
    Minus the few ultras monster is just sooo bad for you.
    Ghost for the win!!!

    • @DanielM77477
      @DanielM77477 Рік тому

      Let’s hope Ghost takes the number 1 spot someday! ✊

  • @Leon612
    @Leon612 Рік тому +21

    I love the smell of vulture capitalism in the morning. 🥴

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +4

      Ugh! 😂

    • @Deagle-lj7tv
      @Deagle-lj7tv Рік тому +9

      That's not capitalism, it's corporatism, captitalism is the reason we get multiple different brands competing with each other, it's the opposite of capitalism really

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Deagle-lj7tvexactly

    • @martyfromnebraska1045
      @martyfromnebraska1045 Рік тому

      @@Deagle-lj7tv
      “It’s not capitalism”
      Well, since “capitalism” describes an actually existing real world system and not abstract ideals invented in billionaire funded libertarian think tanks, and is the outcome of actual human history which takes place in a statist context, this is capitalism.
      It’s been capitalism since the 20th century.

    • @martyfromnebraska1045
      @martyfromnebraska1045 Рік тому

      @@Deagle-lj7tv
      Oh and btw “corporatism” refers to a system where the economy is organized in unions of business owners, unions of workers, and the government oversees both to ensure the interests of the state/nation as a whole are protected. The name “corporatism” comes from the Latin word for “body,” and isn’t a reference to “corporations rule everything.” It’s a nationalist variant of syndicalist socialism.
      While there are aspects of this system at work in the American system, it basically completely ignores the national worker union and national interest part and the state just openly cooperates with big business to screw over everyone outside of the elite capitalist class. Which kinda makes sense since America is a fake country with no national identity, and is effectively a shopping mall with a bloated military.

  • @airxtream2139
    @airxtream2139 Рік тому +2

    Actually Bang had hired an ex Monster employee and he helped Bang with Monster insider trader information/secrets and I believe that's why Monster went after Bang. Bang owes Pepsi a lot of $ also.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Oh yeah, the poop hit the fan all at once for Bang. Pulling out of that Pepsi contract was just plain stupid.

    • @airxtream2139
      @airxtream2139 Рік тому +2

      @@CaffeineMan1 I work at Coke and I saw first hand how when Pepsi got Bang distribution how poor it was executed so i saw why Bang ceo panicked. I mean Pepsi let Bang shelves empty for weeks due to poor execution stores where having me fill it with more monsters.

  • @Tzgrey77
    @Tzgrey77 Рік тому +2

    The man had to supply his giant letter B necklaces somehow!!

  • @Amdfan900
    @Amdfan900 Рік тому +1

    No more 1 bang a day for me after my supply runs out. Picked up 120 cans for $1 each.. Definitely ain't going to Monster.

  • @EriczHype
    @EriczHype Рік тому +1

    excellent video caffeineman! literally i spend double, if not more than double of how much Monster costs to buy American imported energy drinks. like, i hardly buy monster!

  • @usher67
    @usher67 Рік тому +2

    Hope monster brings more bang flavors to canada. We only have like 5 kinds here

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Monster does have several manufactuerers in Canada!

  • @beccastone101
    @beccastone101 Рік тому +1

    Monster is diabolical. I refuse to buy Monster. Their shit is gross but what they stand for is enough to repel me. I’ve never known a greedier company. I looked this up bc I can’t find Bangs anymore and knew something has progressed since bankruptcy. I miss my peach mango 😭

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Glad you agree!
      I heard some stores stopped carrying Bang all together. Not because of this but because of the creatine lawsuit. Other stores are selling down all of the old design cans to make way for the new design cans. With coca cola distributing Bang energy drinks, Im certain they'll be back in all stores soon enough.
      I heard they will also be discontinuing a TON of flavors and only focusing on the top 12 best-sellers. Peach Mango should make the cut.

  • @zGamerGodz
    @zGamerGodz Рік тому +2

    yea theyre wild with it. theyve even tried to get Pokemon to change its name in the past cause its original japanese name is Pocket Monsters therefore it has the word monster in it.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Insanity! Now they want to sue different languages?!?!?!

  • @seanmcleran
    @seanmcleran Рік тому +4

    Just in: monster sues caffeineman 😭

  • @roustabout4fun
    @roustabout4fun Рік тому +3

    I tend to like Bang most but split the drink in half and mix w Sparkling Ice. Ironic that Bang may implode near the 4th~ I agree with your sentiment and I do not ever remember having a Monster drink and that will remain s0~

  • @ayy980
    @ayy980 Рік тому +2

    if you’re no longer drinking monster and they do end up buying VPX and start selling bang and making money off of it will you still be drinking bang?

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +3

      I don't drink 300 mgs drinks. Its too much caffeine and cuts into my caffeine numbers for the day. I usually drink tea and 1-2 energy drinks spread out throughout the day. If I want to stay close to or under 400mgs, 300 is too much.

  • @trentdavis2294
    @trentdavis2294 Рік тому +1

    The monster - bang wars 2020-2023 was a conflict between energy drinks over who was better in result monster won🎉

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Nah, just goes to show who had deeper pockets and more judges in those same pockets. EVIL!!! 😂😂😂

  • @herculesinwyoming
    @herculesinwyoming Рік тому +1

    Bang threw every dollar they could find or borrow into the ring, with hopes they would take over the market. They gambled hard, and got burnt hard in the end.

  • @selfaware7617
    @selfaware7617 Рік тому +2

    Latest rumor is that the deal is falling apart

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      FTC is stepping in. Hopefully won’t let it happen due to monopoly issues or something else? Time will tell.

    • @deszi6936
      @deszi6936 Рік тому +1

      The FTC has let it go through this happened June 30th . Bang had filed a motion for chapter 7 so in other words had the FTC said no they would have just liquidated all assets . Monster energy was the only company to put a bid in .

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      ? According to the screenshot I took of the article, everything was still pending the FTC investigations (as I understood it). They said the hearing is July 13.
      I do admit, my reading and comprehension skills could be off when it comes to legal speak

  • @JoshThomas9
    @JoshThomas9 Рік тому +1

    I didn't know what a really good tasting energy drink was until I tried Bang. I used to love Monster, until the taste really became gross to me. I don't see the appeal of Monster as being a real power house company.. other than the logo comes off as "cool"

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      It’s strictly all about money and power with them.

  • @rajah316
    @rajah316 Рік тому +1

    Did monster buy Bang energy or it's parent company
    I know many places it only said BANG energy not it's parent company Vital Pharmaceuticals

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Correct, they actually purchased VPX (Vital Pharmaceuticals). Its been rumored that they will sell off or close down all the other branches/names of the other supplement products they sell and just keep Bang on the shelves.

  • @ayy980
    @ayy980 Рік тому +2

    if you’re not drinking monster anymore does that include reign?

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Well, I didn't drink Reign to begin with because of the 300mgs of caffeine. They do have great flavors, but yeah, its part of the same company. Monster also owns about 19 other companies like Nos and Full Throttle, but I don't usually drink those either.

  • @allanbacon2977
    @allanbacon2977 Рік тому +2

    @5:56 “a bad boy”

  • @OutrageWater
    @OutrageWater Рік тому +5

    I remember drinking 2 bangs in one day feeling like a badboy. Still love bang and all energy drinks the variety of brands hate that monster trying to do this

  • @breanat1508
    @breanat1508 4 місяці тому

    I don't see anyone drinking Monster anymore. I did see them in 99cent only stores and that is when you know you are going down. The CEO is a sleazy m o f o. I used to be a promotional model for a competitor (not energy but in the beverage category) and he came over to us at the Bar and Nightclub convention. He was really gross and rude. My friend said I should have sued him for some lewd behavior. I hope he gets sued as much as possible to put him and that awful drink company that quite literally puts holes into your brain if you drink it long enough. I am a nurse and I never drank more than two energy drinks in my entire life. Taurine is Satan for your body (this goes for ALL energy drinks with this ingredient and various others, do your research)!

  • @ABC-48483
    @ABC-48483 Рік тому +1

    You got me addicted to the coconut flavor Red Bulls dude haha

  • @TheSportsCritic
    @TheSportsCritic Рік тому +1

    I agree it was not nice Caffeineman but business is not nice and all these company's really only care about destroying competition to make the most profit.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Very true.. yes... I know.
      This one just seemed a bit over the top.

  • @mysitx
    @mysitx Рік тому +1

    Caffeine man are you just talking about the monster brand that you will not drink or does that include reign and other sister companies

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      All of them. Monster, Reign, Nos, Full Throttle, Mother, etc... They own a lot but ironically enough I don't really drink a lot of them to begin with. It was mostly just a couple of Ultras. That being said, I won't drink them for "personal use". I still plan to review them.

  • @basicindiebro
    @basicindiebro Рік тому +1

    Better stick "allegedly" after it, you know how litigious they are XD

  • @RJSalso
    @RJSalso Рік тому +3

    Thanks!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Thank YOU so much! Appreciate it! Great seeing you back in the comments!

  • @RJSalso
    @RJSalso Рік тому +2

    Clicked as soon as I could! Just wow monster wow and first?

  • @justinmurray4040
    @justinmurray4040 Рік тому +3

    I noticed you didn’t mention anything as to why bang was sued in the first place. I’d be curious to know your thoughts on bang lying to their customers about super creatine.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +3

      I’ve done several videos on it so I didn’t revisit it in order to keep the video somewhat reasonable.

    • @justinmurray4040
      @justinmurray4040 Рік тому +2

      @@CaffeineMan1 ahh I must not remember your comments on that. I’ll go back and revisit. Thanks for all you do!

    • @cbrogold4603
      @cbrogold4603 Рік тому +2

      Yeah he’s talked about the Suoer Creatine litigation. I get that but in the end, Monster is trying to buy the same company they sued. Seems contradictory to me lol

    • @justinmurray4040
      @justinmurray4040 Рік тому +1

      @@cbrogold4603 I agree but taking morals and everything else out of the equation, it makes sense business wise. I’m not saying I agree with it but it would mean less competition for them.

    • @deszi6936
      @deszi6936 Рік тому

      I have actually been following this case and reading their case files on stretto . JO has nobody to blame but himself . A year ago DP offered him over $2BN to buy the company and he declined bcuz in his delusional mind he told the media that his company is worth $11BN. Fast forward a year later , they are no longer even a 1Bn company they have lost around 50% of their sales revenue this is all in the case files . Not to mention JO screwed over hundreds of retailers and Distribtor Patrners some who never got paid . 2018-2020 in the case files it showed the he rtook over $110M in salary . Also he is being in estimated for possible money laundering . It doesn’t end there his own board fired him because they said he wasn’t making rational decisions for the company I mean that’s pretty obvious

  • @whammaster
    @whammaster Рік тому +4

    I didn't even know about them attempting to purchase bang. Unreal!

  • @suhscallywag9004
    @suhscallywag9004 Рік тому +2

    I despise that they gotta away with suing that one game who used the word monster.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Thats what they do.

    • @xmashii7979
      @xmashii7979 Рік тому +2

      i just hated it when i was in the mood for an energy drink but i accidentally bought a video game instead!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂😂😂

  • @zecrosyache2319
    @zecrosyache2319 Рік тому +1

    So, is there a fire sale on Bang? Or nah?

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      No. Most likely Monster will just keep selling Bang. Theres probably a decent percentage of the population who wont even know Bang is now by Monster.

  • @the_grey_pilgrim
    @the_grey_pilgrim Рік тому +2

    nice to see a bunch of content lately, and switching things up with this one. I mean, they may be suing a lot but if they're winning the suits 🤷‍♂

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Just means they have more money and judges in their pockets! EVIL!!! 😂😂😂🤣😂
      (Joking)

    • @the_grey_pilgrim
      @the_grey_pilgrim Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 love the passion CM 😁

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂

  • @dalahast06
    @dalahast06 Рік тому +1

    Who owns PepsiCo?
    ==========================
    9.54% The Vanguard Group, Inc.
    8.03% BlackRock, Inc.
    4.29% State Street Global Advisors, Inc.
    1.97% Geode Capital Management, LLC
    1.27% Charles Schwab Investment Management, Inc.
    No suprises here.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Whoa! This research is wayyy above my pay grade. 😂😂😂

  • @Parrotheadrenee
    @Parrotheadrenee Рік тому +1

    This makes me sad. I have never really liked the taste of Monster drinks, (I drink zero sugar) and they also have unnecessary crap ingredients. BANG is one of the cleaner energy drinks with some very unique flavors. My fave BANG is Whole Lotta Chocolatta. I hate this news and sadly, of Monster does go through with the deal, it will be hard not to buy the BANG drinks but ethically, it won’t be hard. Monster, you really are dirty & I hope you reap what you deserve with this nasty tactic!

    • @Parrotheadrenee
      @Parrotheadrenee Рік тому +1

      I will be sharing this!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your opinions on this topic as well! Appreciate it!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing! I appreciate it!

  • @josephsmith765
    @josephsmith765 Рік тому +1

    can't wait for the monster products they send for review!

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂😭😂😂😭😭😂😂😭👍👍👍

  • @lavergahyg
    @lavergahyg Рік тому +1

    Very honest opinion EnergyMan.

  • @ashleymarie6682
    @ashleymarie6682 Рік тому +1

    If they are mean it wouldnt be so bad if their drinks werent so gross

  • @MrLoftyBear
    @MrLoftyBear 6 місяців тому +1

    Cotton candy is my favorite from bang

  • @detroitdiesel89
    @detroitdiesel89 Рік тому +1

    Looks like the sale was approved.

  • @Tony-jb8ue
    @Tony-jb8ue Рік тому +1

    I have never been a huge fan of Monster drinks in general. I do like the Reign drinks which I think have been pretty good and the only other Monster drinks I will drink if I do, are the Monster Ultra but that's not too often. Yeah, I think what they are doing to Bang and to go after them when they are at their lowest point even after being sued by Monster is pretty shady by them to do. I have to agree for the most part with what you said in this video, but I do believe Bang is a little at fault for some of the stuff they did and misleading people a bit with their labeling and what they put on the cans. Thanks for making this video and informing us on what is really going on here and giving us your thoughts on this.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Yes, I did definitely glance over some of the mistakes Bang made, but I mostly talked about that in previous videos so I didn't want to repeat myself. I wanted to stay focused on one topic. We know Bang was sued for what it did wrong. Thats sort of in the past now. NOW, that everything settling down and Bang is about to be auctioned off... Monster comes in to buy them! Thats what its really all about. That other stuff is in the past.

  • @texasdude465
    @texasdude465 Рік тому +1

    @Caffeineman1 I'm going to weigh in now. As a distributor of Monster it my job to sell the brand but with that being said I hate that they use a cutthroat mentality when it comes to the business side of it. But then again I also think Pepsi sell their soul to celebrities to sell product and Coca-cola stays classy. I really hope you continue to bring us the honest Monster reviews in the future even though you said you weren't going to drink a Monster ever again..... I did read somewhere that thousands of people were going to lose their jobs if the the purchase didnt go through....🤷‍♂️ maybe they are saving jobs....
    Anywho.....Once again my friend great content as the best Caffeine related channel on UA-cam!!😂

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much for your input. It went to my "held for review" section for some reason and I wasnt sure if I should release it, just for your own safety! I don't want your company coming after you for your comment! LOL!!!
      I do plan on still reviewing it. Me, personally, won't buy it and drink if for personal use.... but Im not going to penalize my audience based on my beliefs. I review energy drinks and will continue to review all the energy drinks. "Saving Jobs"??? Just another political justification! 😂

    • @texasdude465
      @texasdude465 Рік тому

      @@CaffeineMan1 I know you will always give us great content no matter how a company acts. Hey what ever happened to that company that every one of their energy drinks tasted good. They had the best pina colada?

  • @VikingZeroReviews
    @VikingZeroReviews Рік тому +1

    I don’t drink monsters because of l-carnitine but now this, just as another reason to make it easy not to buy them. I’m also a fan of the ultra series drinks they taste really good, but I have no problem not supporting them.

  • @user-tu5qh5wi8r
    @user-tu5qh5wi8r Рік тому +1

    Maybe Monster can get the original Lemon Drop flavor back. Whatever sacrilegious liquid Bang has been calling Lemon Drop needs to go

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      😂 If anything, they'll cancel the Lemon Drop so people can buy Lemon HDZ

  • @beccastone101
    @beccastone101 Рік тому +1

    Monster is the ultimate mean jealous girl and then some - but I’ll leave those nice words out. 🙄

  • @HiNRGboy
    @HiNRGboy Рік тому +1

    The only Monster I drink is the Reign...that's still Monster though right? I stopped drinking the regular Monster drinks simply because I didn't care for the taste of most of them, they weren't that good compared to some of the other companies out there like I'd much rather pick up a C4 or Alani Nu. I really don't want to support them.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      I mean, I had nothing bad to say about the Reign energy drinks. I think they did a great job with them overall. Still just don’t like the company.

  • @vladimirgunnar7015
    @vladimirgunnar7015 Рік тому +3

    i like to drink monster but this is little fishy

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      A little?
      Yeah I’d say so. 👍🏻

  • @Tzgrey77
    @Tzgrey77 Рік тому +5

    You think they are named monster because of the amount of Energy in drink? Nah they are called Monster because of their business practices

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      The 666 claws in the logo should have been the giveaway!

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Рік тому +2

      ​@@CaffeineMan1fr

  • @airxtream2139
    @airxtream2139 Рік тому +1

    Monster rep told me there isn't any plans on what they are going to do with Bang, but I'm sure they will just add them to their portfolio.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +2

      Agreed. That’s what a smart (yet ruthless) business would do. They already own over 19 different drink brands so it will just be added and nobody will be any the wiser in a few years most people don’t know monster owns NOS, Full Throttle and so many others. Bang will just be added to the list.

    • @airxtream2139
      @airxtream2139 Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 yea I really like NOS and Full Throttle Mt favorite Monsters are the Rehabs teas. If I get any new information I'll share it with you.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Thx!

  • @kropking
    @kropking Рік тому +2

    My respect for you just went up 1,000% after this. Thank you for putting your voice out there in opposition to these slimeballs over at Monster. I've been holding up my own personal boycott of Monster products for a few years now and it just got reinforced. I was drinking Reign here and there due to the fact that I see them as technically a different company, Monster just being the parent, but now I can't see myself supporting anything that Monster is affiliated with. And I never even liked Bang. They were the most overrated disgusting energy drinks on the market in my opinion, but I still don't like the way they were treated and they had a right to make a living. Monster wants to play dirty and bankrupt their competition without beating them fair and square, then we should return the favor and bankrupt them by voting with our dollars and not purchasing their crap.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much! I appreciate the extra respect. You've always been one of my viewers who didnt hold back in their opinions on the drinks that Ive reviewed and although I do have to withhold other peoples comments for being TOO outspoken in their opinions, you've always been clear, concise, and to the point and never hit the level of having to delete a comment. I value everyones opinion and appreciate your respectfulness in my comments section and not going overboard. Thanks for all the support and your opinions.

    • @kropking
      @kropking Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1
      Thank you, sir!

  • @MidnightWildspirit
    @MidnightWildspirit Рік тому +1

    Walmart should buy Bang instead. 😄

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      They should!!!
      And then stop selling Monster, LOL!

  • @stewartfooter3580
    @stewartfooter3580 Рік тому +1

    well i love monster ultra white and rosa but...im with you CM i will have tenzing or anything else now

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      I know a lot of people like the White... and I wasnt really making this video to convince others not to drink them. I was just expressing my opinion, but humbled that others may follow suit.

    • @stewartfooter3580
      @stewartfooter3580 Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 i know pal.but without you we would be still blind to it,so thankyou for what you do and your content,im on a constent hunt for all the drinks you review

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Thanks so much!!! Glad you appreciate the reviews!

  • @torturedskull
    @torturedskull Рік тому +2

    I hope moinster gets it, this way we can still have bang flavors, don't want them to go away. Will you still review new Monsters?

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Such great flavors! It’s a shame some other company couldn’t buy it. Maybe the FTC will squash the case and someone else can buy it .

    • @airxtream2139
      @airxtream2139 Рік тому

      I'm sure Monster will keep the line since it sells well

  • @detroitdiesel89
    @detroitdiesel89 Рік тому +1

    I still love a lot of the monster flavors. And I'm going to keep loving them.
    But yes they seem like jerks and bullies.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Completely understandable! I wouldn’t expect people not to. Just business as usual for most the world. I’m sure this has happened in many other industries as well.

    • @detroitdiesel89
      @detroitdiesel89 Рік тому +1

      @CaffeineMan1 If the sale goes through will you quit drinking bang because it will be owned by monster.? very curious as to what your answer is on that lol

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      I don’t drink Bang since it’s a 300mg energy drink. It’s extremely rare that I have a 300mg drink.

    • @detroitdiesel89
      @detroitdiesel89 Рік тому +1

      @CaffeineMan1 same. You would think some of these companies would realize they could sell more product if they lowered the caffeine content because people could have 2 a day at 200mg.

  • @inmyhouse11
    @inmyhouse11 Рік тому +1

    Monster products suck. Bang is irrelevant as other supplement companies have put out far superior drinks. Wont matter if Bang is bought out or liquidated by Monster because I wont be buying either product.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      True, a lot of other companies do put out a lot of better products. Id like to see a rise of the somewhat smaller supplement companies that are growing, keep growing and take Bangs place in the number 3 spot and higher. If C4, Ghost, GFuel, Ryse and many others continue to do as well as they are doing, they should be good enough competition to keep Monster in check.

    • @inmyhouse11
      @inmyhouse11 Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 thats what Im hoping for too. Monster needs to be eliminated

  • @831CROW
    @831CROW Рік тому +1

    Monster ink movie can sue them they had the name first

  • @loganross9494
    @loganross9494 Рік тому +1

    I've always loved Monster, obviously just for the caffeine boost and flavors since the formula ain't all that, lol. But I've never agreed with their corporate side or business tactics, it is just wrong. I'm gonna still drink monster since they are the most convenient (like red bull, rockstsr ect.) cheaper, taste and also since my store doesn't carry c4 or ghost or any of those brands.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Understandable! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @VikingZeroReviews
    @VikingZeroReviews Рік тому +1

    Great vid cm1

  • @TobiLaroux
    @TobiLaroux Рік тому +2

    DIdn't see about Bang Energy company declaring bankruptcy ....that really sucks, as Bang imo is WAY better than Monster. All sugar free, more flavors.....guess that means I need to stock up on that Key Lime Pie Bang before it disappears.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Who knows if it will disappear or not though. It would make sense for them to just keep selling all the same drinks and make billions of dollars.

    • @HiNRGboy
      @HiNRGboy Рік тому +1

      I've never even had a Bang but that Key Lime sounds kinda nice

    • @TobiLaroux
      @TobiLaroux Рік тому +2

      @@HiNRGboy it tastes just like a KL pie. You taste the sweet lime, a creaminess to it, and even has that back flavor of graham, still my fave Bang flavor out there.

    • @HiNRGboy
      @HiNRGboy Рік тому +1

      @@anthonymercado8126 I'm not much into Cola drinks anyway lol, I like a Cherry Cola though like Cherry Coke.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      @psychofox9920 They did a good job with the Key Lime pie! If you see, Id recommend trying it once.

  • @gloriamichelle104
    @gloriamichelle104 Рік тому +1

    Are you going to remove the Monster cans from your energy drink wall in protest?! On a side note, I wonder whatever happened those new bang flavors? Did Mr. Owoc perpetrate some kind of fraud saying they exist when they didn't? Or could Monster unearth the lost flavors?

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Im not sure if I can go that far. Im also trying to figure out what to do for reviews. I may 'personally' not buy them, but as for being a reviewer of their products, I don't think my audience should suffer over my beliefs so I will probably continue to review them.
      The new flavors were when Jack was still around. His wife is the head of marketing. Im uncertain if she is still there but if she was spearheading the new releases, they could have been put on hold. Why come out with new flavors if you are uncertain where the company is going.... and you fire her husband.

  • @silverandgoldboxbreaks5457
    @silverandgoldboxbreaks5457 Рік тому +2

    C4 > Monster

  • @miscellaneousdrinks
    @miscellaneousdrinks Рік тому +1

    What did Monster Do?

  • @benji-g
    @benji-g Рік тому +1

    may be a shit company, but reign is damn good and I ain't planning on stopping drinking them anytime soon 😎

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂😂😂👍
      Thats fine! Completely understandable. Im still eating Chik - fil - a!!!

  • @WLowry
    @WLowry Місяць тому +1

    Sheesh. Tell us how you really feel Caffeine man?😂😂😂

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Місяць тому +1

      There are few and far between videos where I have a massive rant. Monster just brings it out of me. 😂😂😂

  • @samuelhernandez4769
    @samuelhernandez4769 Рік тому +1

    Vitamin shoppe has bang for $1

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      A lot of people do 😂😂😂😂
      Joking!!! Sort of... but thank you! Im sure a lot of people will take advantage of that. Love the Vitamin Shoppe sales!

  • @oxlip
    @oxlip Рік тому +1

    I was waiting for this

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Wait no more!

    • @oxlip
      @oxlip Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 In your expert opinion, do you think Bang will ever return to the shelves? The allure of 0 calories and their delicious flavors puts Bang at number one by a mile for me.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Definitely. It’s a great brand that hit the 3rd ranked energy drink in the world. Monster wants to cash in on that to be able to overtake Red Bulls #1 spot.

  • @RMZ2fiddy333
    @RMZ2fiddy333 Рік тому +1

    On the corporate side they might be an awful company but the support they have for action sports will always have me supporting them they’re the reason extreme athletes can make a living doing what they do the sponsor supercross so I think what they did here is wrong but they do so much for action sports I have to buy from them to support riders of all kinds

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      And they're being paid with evil blood money!!!!
      😂
      Joking, joking!!! Its a good point. There are a lot of sponsorships involved as well... but, its a 2 way street. The atheltes are also promoting Monster. When GFuel started treating their employees bad, there was an uprising of many big influencers that left Gfuel because they didnt want to work for a bad company. Same thing with Twitch recently.

    • @RMZ2fiddy333
      @RMZ2fiddy333 Рік тому +1

      @@CaffeineMan1 that made me laugh love ya man been watching since the jump keep it up :)

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂👍 Thanks so much! appreciate it!

  • @Alexanderthegr800
    @Alexanderthegr800 Рік тому +1

    most bangs were terrible, so im not mad

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      😂😂😂they werent for everyone. Heck I don’t even drink 300mgs energy drinks!

  • @mellowasiam
    @mellowasiam Рік тому +1

    Monster is soulless.

  • @Deagle-lj7tv
    @Deagle-lj7tv Рік тому +2

    They are truly living up to their name, Monsters

  • @HendrixHorn
    @HendrixHorn Рік тому +1

    Bangruptcy

  • @sasho7917
    @sasho7917 Рік тому +2

    Welcome to the corporate universe where greed runs all things. Now I wonder if Monster with eliminate the Bang brand, or will they be smart and keep it simply placing their name a the owners of the Bang brand like some car companies do as an umbrella company. Wait for either Pepsi or Coke to try and buy Ghost. BTW, good choice on the Monster protest. Couldn't agree with you more.

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому +1

      Monster already own over 19 energy drink companies such as Nos, Full Throttle, Mother and more. As long as they are profitable, they keep them going. With Bang continuously rising, Im certain they would keep them around in order to add to their billions of dollars. Bang never discontinued any flavor, but I can guarantee there will be a lot of them gone if Monster gets them.

  • @Richard.Aubourg
    @Richard.Aubourg 9 місяців тому +1

    This guy is full of crap. He's bias. Monster is no hero but I worked for Jack and the level of unethical shenanigans going on in this company we're too wide and diverse to speak of here. He was no hero and he made a lot of falsified claims on what bang energy can do, I was there! He ran the company very poorly as well. The abuse was off the chain. Religious, his actions did not reflect this at all!

  • @Xolotl000
    @Xolotl000 Рік тому +1

    Protests are the purest form of democracy.
    Your reasoning for not buying monster is my reason for never voting for democrats or republicans.. pure evil.. vote green at least your hands stay clean #cornel2024 #cornelwest2024 #cornelorbust #cornelwestorbust #cornelwestorbust2024
    "Justice is what love looks like in public"

  • @JQUiK84
    @JQUiK84 Рік тому +1

    Update coke and monster owns bang

    • @CaffeineMan1
      @CaffeineMan1  Рік тому

      Update: Minor correction to your comment. Monster owns Bang, as titled by this video. Coke entered a distribution agreement with Monster where they agreed to distribute Monster, as well as give Monster all their energy drink brands such as Nos, Full Throttle, Hell and more and Monster gave Coke their juice lines. They work together, one doesnt own the other. 👍👍👍
      www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2014/08/14/Coca-Cola-enters-strategic-partnership-with-Monster-Beverage-Corp

    • @JQUiK84
      @JQUiK84 Рік тому

      ​@CaffeineMan1 coke owns 20 percent of monster

  • @WLowry
    @WLowry Місяць тому +1

    Monster aka the evil empire. The empire strikes 😂