Well, almost 100% of people doing longer distance hikes or runs either in single days or multi days wear trail runners - unless they are off trail. It's far more important to actually train your feet and joints properly for the task. There are some shoe like boots, but trail runners are lighter, can have the same grip and traction as a boot and frankly are much more comfortable.
I have been practicing trail running, and ultra running for some time now. I used to go hike up mountains up to 16500ft above sea level with my salomon runners. Even tho running downhill is something I love I have come to accept that there is a place for boots, and that is something us runners have trouble with. When going up this mountains I now do it with boots, those protect my feet from the elements and from ankle injury, I can't imagine getting an ankle injuty at 16500ft
But in the video he said 70% of ankle injuries happened with people wearing boots. I feel like this is more of an individual thing then it is a shoe thing. 🤔
@nevency_ not running, but in the Mountains where I train its easy to get overconfident and see +5000m mountains as something to take on shorts and trail runners, of course you can do that but it's not the safest option
Great well explained video covering the necessary areas and info I was looking for. I was going to go for trail runners, however after watching this video, it reinforced the importance of a strong pair of boots which I will need for my trip!
Trail Runners aren't as simple anymore. Now they are breaking up into subcategories and niches. For example there are those developed more suitable for off trail hikes. There are those meant for timed performance trail runs. There are those somewhere in between. There are those that serve as daily trainers. Hiking shoes also morphed, some hiking shoes are now on low tops with lightened uppers that they resemble more like trail runners. Other trail runners are meant to be hybrids for road to trail transitions. Gorecorp fashion trends further complicate the business with shoes for fashion but derived from performance designs. There are also entry level to high end trail runners. What used to be a simple choice now requires a detailed analysis.
I've been hiking in Mizuno Mujin Wave 10 across Carpathian Mountains, throughout Romania - my home country, Bulgaria and Tatra Mountains, at least 1 hike per week. They were absolutely amazing compared with regular 3 season boots but are pretty destroyed now; was it worth it? Absolutely - they have great stability, almost the same as regular hiking boots due to Vibram Megagrip sole. Due to their lightweight, I could easly tackle long hikes, above 25km without feeling any pain. Downsize - no protection compared with regular boots, durability. For experienced hikers and to me, it's worth buying one pair per season, although I do not recommend wearing trail shoes for hiking if you're a beginner.
I live in the bc Rockies and I use the vans ultra range high gore Tex . They’re a boot but a shoe so they are a good mix and they’re fairly water resistant and super grippy , have done a few 10km out and back hikes with them and they’re great . My daily wear is a pair of Ariat Workhog square toe cowboy boots . Can’t complain with either
Hardly any long distance thruhikers wear boots anymore. They're just not nessessary when hiking on established trails. I used to wear Danner Mountain Lights back in the day, and then moved into the incredibly comfortable Crater Rims. Now I wear Hoka Speedgoats, which are like floating around in tennis shoes with the grip of Vibram outsoles. So much better than boots. And when they get wet, they dry out overnight, unlike boots that take days to dry. And I don't get sprained ankles anymore like I did wearing ankle high boots.
And thats exactly why so many have beat up feet, black toes, toenails falling off and very tired feet. Some even quit due to foot/ankle issues from the wrong shoes. Buy footwear that is designed for the task.
i don't understand how you are getting ankle sprains when wearing boots with ankle support but you don't get ankle sprains anymore when wearing shoes (with no ankle support).
@@vincentvega5686 It's almost like the boots act as a lever, and when the sole of the boot rolls over on a rock, all that "ankle high support" forces my ankle over. At least that was my experience with Danner Boots. I can't wear many other boots because my feet are so wide. I've been wearing Altra Lone Peaks for the past year, and I've had no sprained ankles. I used to have at least one or two a year. The Lone Peaks have such a wide toebox that I never get blisters, and I feel like my feet are spread out enough to keep my ankles from rolling maybe. Or maybe it's because I can better feel what I'm stepping on, and avoid rolling my ankle. Who knows.
Needed this. Im hiking this weekend up the mountains and the only pair of shoes that i have that aren't trainers are North Face Trail shoes. Saves me from buying hiking boots
I looked at Trail Runners at the local REI and they were so lightweight! The top was so thin, I think it was thinner than paper. And they sure are proud of them. I could see that in my opinion they would not last very long. I instead purchased a hiking shoe. Still going.
Ankle support seems to see a mith all my ankle injuries occured with boots and a similar trend is seen in basketball shoes where the ankle support is disappearing
For me on hikes comfort and traction is the best. There has been more times where traction/grip was of the utmost importance to get through the hike. Joshua Tree Granite rocks were no joke.
I did clouds rest Yosemite in canvas zero drop Nike Sbs. Was perfect for a paved trail. For off trail I use trail runners, for winter Id use asolo hiking boots 7:00
When I saw the Ice-mans 10,000 year old shoes I was shocked. Basically a basket weaved shell stuffed with straw or grass, that is replaced. My point being we over do things sometimes.
Great video. Boots are needed in winter and for rocky terrain, trail shoes just don't cut it. By the way, your outro is reducing your overall viewing time, which isn't good for the youtube algorithm, the more of the video people view, the more youtube will put it out there.
I have the Zamberlan Tofane GT - amazing boots, but they weight a kg each. The last hike I did with them was 50k steps (approx 35km). You really notice that weight towards the end when your legs are tired. So yeah, I'm a bit more mindful of how much shoes/boots weigh for long hikes!
hmmm... I literally trekked in the Atlas Mountains, peaked multiple mountains and in snow. My guide, an experienced guide at that also wore trail runners. What nonsense are you talking about? It depends. The whole "boot support" is a myth. You need strong feet. This video is a bit misleading. Boots for the depths of winter. Trail runners for anything else. You definitely can hike/trek in any terrain below 5000 meters in trail runners. 100% and for multiple days.
It wont hurt your feet, but the lugs tend to wear down fairly quickly as there's less contact area than on road shoes. I walk with mine when I have to on roads, but if I'm city walking then I'll wear road shoes.
Excellent suggestion! Thank you. I added the boots to the description (Merrell MOAB 3) unfortunately the runners are a few years old and no longer available.
What is best for light hiking? Higher 6mm vs lower 4mm drop Tend to have some knee pain when descending, or hip pain with heavy backpacks. I will be doing easy/short hikes when guiding, and I have good hiking boots, but looking for a pair of light shoes for the short 2-3km hikes. But curious on the drop
Affordable? In my opinion that is not true. They are way more expensive as boots. In Germany you pay 130- 60€ a pair of trail runners. Those Things last like for 300 - 400km. In boots u can probably hike 3-5x this distance. There even boots u can get new soles. So affordable of course if u only compare one part of it.
I'd say entry level trail runners are good for hikers but more aggressive trail or ultra trail runners are horrible for hiking to to the slope or toe angle whatever. At least that's my observation as someone that does all three activities constantly. Hiking boots suck all the way around in my opinion. Also, anything gortex is terrible imo.
Same i was actually looking for a hybrid trail runner/walking shoe. Seems most shoe companies are missing out on a very niche market. Of hikers that want trail running shoes with the durability/comfort of regular shoes. I find the better grip or technology shoes are all on the high end trail runners which like you said are horrible for hiking. Do to the high drops and rounded front. Great for running extremely bad for hiking. But the grip tech is excellent. 🤦🏻♀️ The entry level shoes are actually the best for hiking/running. But because they are entry level they dont have or get the best grip technology. Or the more comfortable foams. The high end shoes get. Maybe in a year or two they will realize most hikers are switching over to trail runners and start making high end versions of the entry level shoes.
Some trial runner have rock plates. Etc. of course most are on easy trails. I’m in the Canadian Rockies and mountaineer, and I’ve tried just about everything from stiff heavy mountaineering boots to once scrambling a mountain in Merrill trail gloves. Pros and cons to all of it. Indeed. Off trial side sloping on 50 degree rocky scree here… those trail runners are going to feel like slippers lol.
nonsense. I just trekked in very rocky terrain over multiple days in Altra Lone Peak and zero issues. If your feet can't handle it, you need to strengthen your feet! I've also done multiple endurance challenges over boggy terrain, rocky terrain and multiple peaks all in trail runners. No problems at all. They just get wet. But boots? Yea, can't wait to get em off. Boots are pointless unless you're going above 4-5k meters (in altitude and on extreme cold)
This is very helpful as I am about to start hiking and torn between a boot and trainer. Really hope more people get to see this channel
Well, almost 100% of people doing longer distance hikes or runs either in single days or multi days wear trail runners - unless they are off trail. It's far more important to actually train your feet and joints properly for the task. There are some shoe like boots, but trail runners are lighter, can have the same grip and traction as a boot and frankly are much more comfortable.
I have been practicing trail running, and ultra running for some time now. I used to go hike up mountains up to 16500ft above sea level with my salomon runners. Even tho running downhill is something I love I have come to accept that there is a place for boots, and that is something us runners have trouble with. When going up this mountains I now do it with boots, those protect my feet from the elements and from ankle injury, I can't imagine getting an ankle injuty at 16500ft
But in the video he said 70% of ankle injuries happened with people wearing boots.
I feel like this is more of an individual thing then it is a shoe thing. 🤔
you run with hiking boots?
@nevency_ not running, but in the Mountains where I train its easy to get overconfident and see +5000m mountains as something to take on shorts and trail runners, of course you can do that but it's not the safest option
You are absolutely right! Hurt injured my ankle on rocky terrain , looking for high cut boots for my next hike soon.❤thanks for sharing
Great well explained video covering the necessary areas and info I was looking for. I was going to go for trail runners, however after watching this video, it reinforced the importance of a strong pair of boots which I will need for my trip!
Trail Runners aren't as simple anymore. Now they are breaking up into subcategories and niches. For example there are those developed more suitable for off trail hikes. There are those meant for timed performance trail runs. There are those somewhere in between. There are those that serve as daily trainers. Hiking shoes also morphed, some hiking shoes are now on low tops with lightened uppers that they resemble more like trail runners. Other trail runners are meant to be hybrids for road to trail transitions. Gorecorp fashion trends further complicate the business with shoes for fashion but derived from performance designs. There are also entry level to high end trail runners. What used to be a simple choice now requires a detailed analysis.
I've been hiking in Mizuno Mujin Wave 10 across Carpathian Mountains, throughout Romania - my home country, Bulgaria and Tatra Mountains, at least 1 hike per week.
They were absolutely amazing compared with regular 3 season boots but are pretty destroyed now; was it worth it?
Absolutely - they have great stability, almost the same as regular hiking boots due to Vibram Megagrip sole.
Due to their lightweight, I could easly tackle long hikes, above 25km without feeling any pain.
Downsize - no protection compared with regular boots, durability.
For experienced hikers and to me, it's worth buying one pair per season, although I do not recommend wearing trail shoes for hiking if you're a beginner.
I live in the bc Rockies and I use the vans ultra range high gore Tex . They’re a boot but a shoe so they are a good mix and they’re fairly water resistant and super grippy , have done a few 10km out and back hikes with them and they’re great . My daily wear is a pair of Ariat Workhog square toe cowboy boots . Can’t complain with either
Hardly any long distance thruhikers wear boots anymore. They're just not nessessary when hiking on established trails. I used to wear Danner Mountain Lights back in the day, and then moved into the incredibly comfortable Crater Rims. Now I wear Hoka Speedgoats, which are like floating around in tennis shoes with the grip of Vibram outsoles. So much better than boots. And when they get wet, they dry out overnight, unlike boots that take days to dry. And I don't get sprained ankles anymore like I did wearing ankle high boots.
I've been hearing lots of great things about the Hoka's. Definitely going to need to check them out.
And thats exactly why so many have beat up feet, black toes, toenails falling off and very tired feet. Some even quit due to foot/ankle issues from the wrong shoes. Buy footwear that is designed for the task.
i don't understand how you are getting ankle sprains when wearing boots with ankle support but you don't get ankle sprains anymore when wearing shoes (with no ankle support).
@@vincentvega5686 It's almost like the boots act as a lever, and when the sole of the boot rolls over on a rock, all that "ankle high support" forces my ankle over. At least that was my experience with Danner Boots. I can't wear many other boots because my feet are so wide. I've been wearing Altra Lone Peaks for the past year, and I've had no sprained ankles. I used to have at least one or two a year. The Lone Peaks have such a wide toebox that I never get blisters, and I feel like my feet are spread out enough to keep my ankles from rolling maybe. Or maybe it's because I can better feel what I'm stepping on, and avoid rolling my ankle. Who knows.
Needed this. Im hiking this weekend up the mountains and the only pair of shoes that i have that aren't trainers are North Face Trail shoes. Saves me from buying hiking boots
fantastic video quality. insanely good visual fx breaking down hiking boot. well done brother!
I looked at Trail Runners at the local REI and they were so lightweight! The top was so thin, I think it was thinner than paper. And they sure are proud of them. I could see that in my opinion they would not last very long. I instead purchased a hiking shoe. Still going.
Ankle support seems to see a mith all my ankle injuries occured with boots and a similar trend is seen in basketball shoes where the ankle support is disappearing
For me on hikes comfort and traction is the best. There has been more times where traction/grip was of the utmost importance to get through the hike. Joshua Tree Granite rocks were no joke.
I did clouds rest Yosemite in canvas zero drop Nike Sbs. Was perfect for a paved trail. For off trail I use trail runners, for winter Id use asolo hiking boots 7:00
Underrated video
When I saw the Ice-mans 10,000 year old shoes I was shocked. Basically a basket weaved shell stuffed with straw or grass, that is replaced. My point being we over do things sometimes.
Yall gotta get back to uploading! Loved this video and am lookin for more!
Love the video and great insights! I might look into hokas or trailrunners!
Great video. Boots are needed in winter and for rocky terrain, trail shoes just don't cut it. By the way, your outro is reducing your overall viewing time, which isn't good for the youtube algorithm, the more of the video people view, the more youtube will put it out there.
I have the Zamberlan Tofane GT - amazing boots, but they weight a kg each. The last hike I did with them was 50k steps (approx 35km). You really notice that weight towards the end when your legs are tired. So yeah, I'm a bit more mindful of how much shoes/boots weigh for long hikes!
hmmm... I literally trekked in the Atlas Mountains, peaked multiple mountains and in snow. My guide, an experienced guide at that also wore trail runners. What nonsense are you talking about?
It depends. The whole "boot support" is a myth. You need strong feet.
This video is a bit misleading.
Boots for the depths of winter. Trail runners for anything else. You definitely can hike/trek in any terrain below 5000 meters in trail runners. 100% and for multiple days.
Sealskinz Socks plus some Ice Cleats and u are better off with Trailrunners .......even in Winter
You failed to mention or are not aware that every pound of shoe weight is equal to 6.4 pounds added to your backpack.
ABSOLUTELY! Your foot and legs will get stronger. GUARANTEED.
Is it ok to wear trail runners on regular pavement and city walking ?
It wont hurt your feet, but the lugs tend to wear down fairly quickly as there's less contact area than on road shoes. I walk with mine when I have to on roads, but if I'm city walking then I'll wear road shoes.
omg what are you doing?
@@innov13 what?
Lot's of miss-information! The Merrell Moab Mid weighs only 13.57oz and costs $130.
You should consider noting the models of your shoes in the videos. I'd appreciate that.
Excellent suggestion! Thank you. I added the boots to the description (Merrell MOAB 3) unfortunately the runners are a few years old and no longer available.
What is best for light hiking? Higher 6mm vs lower 4mm drop
Tend to have some knee pain when descending, or hip pain with heavy backpacks. I will be doing easy/short hikes when guiding, and I have good hiking boots, but looking for a pair of light shoes for the short 2-3km hikes. But curious on the drop
I don't know the answer about the drop, but I have bad knees too and I would recommend using hiking poles if there is much change in elevation.
I did moderate hiking in Franconia Notch region last couple of days in New Balance 1080s. Seemed to work out ok. Would something else be better?
Affordable? In my opinion that is not true. They are way more expensive as boots. In Germany you pay 130- 60€ a pair of trail runners. Those Things last like for 300 - 400km. In boots u can probably hike 3-5x this distance. There even boots u can get new soles. So affordable of course if u only compare one part of it.
I'd say entry level trail runners are good for hikers but more aggressive trail or ultra trail runners are horrible for hiking to to the slope or toe angle whatever. At least that's my observation as someone that does all three activities constantly. Hiking boots suck all the way around in my opinion. Also, anything gortex is terrible imo.
Same i was actually looking for a hybrid trail runner/walking shoe.
Seems most shoe companies are missing out on a very niche market. Of hikers that want trail running shoes with the durability/comfort of regular shoes.
I find the better grip or technology shoes are all on the high end trail runners which like you said are horrible for hiking. Do to the high drops and rounded front. Great for running extremely bad for hiking. But the grip tech is excellent. 🤦🏻♀️
The entry level shoes are actually the best for hiking/running. But because they are entry level they dont have or get the best grip technology. Or the more comfortable foams. The high end shoes get.
Maybe in a year or two they will realize most hikers are switching over to trail runners and start making high end versions of the entry level shoes.
Trail runners can't handle rocky trails, not stable enough and no protection bouncing your foot off a rock
Some trial runner have rock plates. Etc. of course most are on easy trails. I’m in the Canadian Rockies and mountaineer, and I’ve tried just about everything from stiff heavy mountaineering boots to once scrambling a mountain in Merrill trail gloves. Pros and cons to all of it. Indeed. Off trial side sloping on 50 degree rocky scree here… those trail runners are going to feel like slippers lol.
nonsense. I just trekked in very rocky terrain over multiple days in Altra Lone Peak and zero issues. If your feet can't handle it, you need to strengthen your feet!
I've also done multiple endurance challenges over boggy terrain, rocky terrain and multiple peaks all in trail runners. No problems at all. They just get wet. But boots? Yea, can't wait to get em off. Boots are pointless unless you're going above 4-5k meters (in altitude and on extreme cold)
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Hi I have a question. I will join the mountain marathon in jungfrao. Which type of running shoes that you can recommend? Thank you
brooks cascadia 18. Thank me later.