Most physicians have no life experience and haven't had any other career. They leave becsuse they have no perspective and can't recognize a lot of what they are feeling is just *having a job* as opposed to working in medicine.
a lot of it. But some of it are valid concerns. Most "jobs" wont require you to do 24 hour shifts, post-call, and some of the other meticulous things doctors face.
But what about all the people who are really passionate about their job despite the crazy hours they are putting in or sacrifices they are making? I think it all boils down to being passionate about what you do and think that most people going into medicine have no idea what it's actually like. Like you said, the lack of perspective definitely contributes but I think another component is that while many doctors don't go into medicine for the money, they expect that the money will compensate for the time leading up to it or rigors of the job but nothing can substitute true motivation or passion.
@@evanmarshall3487 Sure. But there's definitely a difference in knowing you can be called in at any moment vs peace of mind knowing they will not call you if any emergencies occur. Mentally its different.
My ex-wife is an OBGYN. She bucked the system for years in the SoCal area. She got tired of dealing with nitwit employees and insurance companies while running her solo practice. She was turned off from the lack of professionalism with a lot of nurses at the hospitals, but mostly with the ethics of the medical profession. Although she is my ex-wife, i have to say her ethical morality standards were angelic. She was very popular surgeon among and nurses and doctors like to work with her in the OR and patients loved her. She retired at 49 years old. After 5 years out of the workforce she went back into practicing via locumtenens. She traveled all over the US and some overseas US territorial destinations. One word of advice...if you are a physician planning on retirement, but might have a change of heart one day or an opportunity to practice again, make sure you have/buy tail end malpractice coverge incase you get sued down the line and/or want to practice again ( she never got sued ) but it was difficult for her to buy malpractice insurance again because of no tail end coverage when she left the profession.
Everyone’s experience with doctors will most likely vary, even with the same doctor, but my own experience is typically the older the doctor, the worse he or she becomes. I’ve gone through several doctors at my local VA hospital. The old doctors are set in a particular groove of medicine past. The younger doctors actually listen to what you have to say, and are willing to work with you, not just force something upon you that you don’t agree with.
I like where he says "engineering mathmatics classes are much more inteulaectually challenging" engineering programs are no joke you will go from a 4.0 to a 2.5 real fast lol , I was a biology major / premed my first year in college I switched to engineering because I thought it would be a "get rich quick thing" its rough and if you get behind in the math sequence it sets you back another year because of how the classes build on one another calc 1,2,3 and differential equations AND physics (calc based) have to be done before taking the real engineering courses. I still go back and fourth in my head about Medschool vs Engineering. Im a much older non-trad student so age has alot to do with it. By the time I would finish residency I would be 47. I was once told only go into medicine if you cant see yourself doing anything else and being happy, personally I think that sentiment is too vague but to each their own.
I’m not sure I agree with this guy’s points. He was a psychiatrist, and this is considered to be one of the easiest specialties in medicine. By easy, I mean less taxing in terms of hours or lifestyle. But more to the point, I think the reason that people do not do well in medicine is that they expect too much of it. If you are a reasonable person, and want job security, a solid income, and an interesting job, medicine is a great option with many potential specialties that would cater to most personalities. If you were looking for something amazing, you will probably probably be frustrated and burnt out. People need to be realistic in life there is no perfection.
I an oncosurgery resident .. I love my work... everyday I see life at its best and worst .. recurrencs break my heart .. its scary and is draining so I take time off and use my off time to be mindful about my energy
I stopped practicing because the medical system where I am is not setup for managable longevity. I got tired of being a cog in a broken machine. There are too many patients seeking help and not enough resources to address their concerns. The resources that exist get overworked and burnout. Its a perpetual self fulfilling prophecy.
The only thing that matters in this short life is if you have Faith in Jesus Christ. He came to earth as man, died on the cross for your sins and rose on the 3rd day. Believe this, and repent of your sins to have eternal life. Love Jesus with all your heart, soul mind and body.
I will say that I find it very narcissistic when some doctors say that medicine was a “calling” for them. like out of everyone possible, you were called to practice medicine. By who?? By God?
I disagree. I think what someone means when they have found their "calling" when it comes to jobs is that they have found a job that satisfies them or that they enjoy. I think this is applicable to any profession, not just physicians, and isn't a self-centered way of thinking.
Huh? People are sometimes called to be a firefighter due to perhaps a personal event in their life, some a vet, some a teacher. It’s a normal phrase what are you on?
There is nothing wrong with liking something for the sake of liking it. But if you see yourself as someone special, or destined to do something, you are pompous. you can’t tell me the compensation is not a reason that people go into medicine. Is this part of your calling?
@KenmanG1982 😂😂😂😂😂 The compensation we get is essentially the minimum floor do this job. Its not why anyone seriously gets into medicine. That essentially gets screened out in undergrad when you go "omg I'm going to spend another decde poor and in debt and working my ass off." If you are smart and dilligent enough to get through med school there are honestly way more easier paths to the middle class.
Most physicians have no life experience and haven't had any other career. They leave becsuse they have no perspective and can't recognize a lot of what they are feeling is just *having a job* as opposed to working in medicine.
Interesting take
a lot of it. But some of it are valid concerns. Most "jobs" wont require you to do 24 hour shifts, post-call, and some of the other meticulous things doctors face.
@ownthispwn lol
Call is a joke for most attendings. Work at an academic instituon and you always have residents handling it.
But what about all the people who are really passionate about their job despite the crazy hours they are putting in or sacrifices they are making? I think it all boils down to being passionate about what you do and think that most people going into medicine have no idea what it's actually like. Like you said, the lack of perspective definitely contributes but I think another component is that while many doctors don't go into medicine for the money, they expect that the money will compensate for the time leading up to it or rigors of the job but nothing can substitute true motivation or passion.
@@evanmarshall3487 Sure. But there's definitely a difference in knowing you can be called in at any moment vs peace of mind knowing they will not call you if any emergencies occur. Mentally its different.
My ex-wife is an OBGYN. She bucked the system for years in the SoCal area. She got tired of dealing with nitwit employees and insurance companies while running her solo practice. She was turned off from the lack of professionalism with a lot of nurses at the hospitals, but mostly with the ethics of the medical profession. Although she is my ex-wife, i have to say her ethical morality standards were angelic. She was very popular surgeon among and nurses and doctors like to work with her in the OR and patients loved her. She retired at 49 years old. After 5 years out of the workforce she went back into practicing via locumtenens. She traveled all over the US and some overseas US territorial destinations. One word of advice...if you are a physician planning on retirement, but might have a change of heart one day or an opportunity to practice again, make sure you have/buy tail end malpractice coverge incase you get sued down the line and/or want to practice again ( she never got sued ) but it was difficult for her to buy malpractice insurance again because of no tail end coverage when she left the profession.
Everyone’s experience with doctors will most likely vary, even with the same doctor, but my own experience is typically the older the doctor, the worse he or she becomes. I’ve gone through several doctors at my local VA hospital. The old doctors are set in a particular groove of medicine past. The younger doctors actually listen to what you have to say, and are willing to work with you, not just force something upon you that you don’t agree with.
Man. He spoke truth! Especially, about never really wanting to be a doctor.
I like where he says "engineering mathmatics classes are much more inteulaectually challenging" engineering programs are no joke you will go from a 4.0 to a 2.5 real fast lol , I was a biology major / premed my first year in college I switched to engineering because I thought it would be a "get rich quick thing" its rough and if you get behind in the math sequence it sets you back another year because of how the classes build on one another calc 1,2,3 and differential equations AND physics (calc based) have to be done before taking the real engineering courses. I still go back and fourth in my head about Medschool vs Engineering. Im a much older non-trad student so age has alot to do with it. By the time I would finish residency I would be 47. I was once told only go into medicine if you cant see yourself doing anything else and being happy, personally I think that sentiment is too vague but to each their own.
I experienced burn out in a top 100 tech company. We need better tools for burn out in ALOT of industries.
For some reason he reminds me of the actor Owen wilson - which makes this dude an even bigger legend 🙌🏻
I’m not sure I agree with this guy’s points. He was a psychiatrist, and this is considered to be one of the easiest specialties in medicine. By easy, I mean less taxing in terms of hours or lifestyle.
But more to the point, I think the reason that people do not do well in medicine is that they expect too much of it. If you are a reasonable person, and want job security, a solid income, and an interesting job, medicine is a great option with many potential specialties that would cater to most personalities. If you were looking for something amazing, you will probably probably be frustrated and burnt out. People need to be realistic in life there is no perfection.
I an oncosurgery resident .. I love my work... everyday I see life at its best and worst .. recurrencs break my heart .. its scary and is draining so I take time off and use my off time to be mindful about my energy
The last 2 minutes of this video was it for me.
Life is short. Make the most meaningful part of it
Great video
I stopped practicing because the medical system where I am is not setup for managable longevity. I got tired of being a cog in a broken machine. There are too many patients seeking help and not enough resources to address their concerns. The resources that exist get overworked and burnout. Its a perpetual self fulfilling prophecy.
Great video 🎉 I love the emphasis on these videos.
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How does one build these skills that would enable you to participate in biotech or AI healthcare startups?
^^^ @kevinjubbalmd can you make a video about this?
I worked with a Dr. Pepper while on rotations!
@@RickyCoco11 I worked with a Dr. Dolittle
Hey Doc can we get a Why I DIDN'T ..... OBGYN?
Sophomore in college
Current gpa 2.2
Recovering from 1.39
Going to be the greatest comeback in medical history
Next time I’ll ask my doctor to be if he likes being a doctor😅
The only thing that matters in this short life is if you have Faith in Jesus Christ. He came to earth as man, died on the cross for your sins and rose on the 3rd day. Believe this, and repent of your sins to have eternal life. Love Jesus with all your heart, soul mind and body.
I will say that I find it very narcissistic when some doctors say that medicine was a “calling” for them. like out of everyone possible, you were called to practice medicine. By who?? By God?
I disagree. I think what someone means when they have found their "calling" when it comes to jobs is that they have found a job that satisfies them or that they enjoy. I think this is applicable to any profession, not just physicians, and isn't a self-centered way of thinking.
Huh? People are sometimes called to be a firefighter due to perhaps a personal event in their life, some a vet, some a teacher. It’s a normal phrase what are you on?
@KenmanG1982 yeah how narcissistic to just like something for the sake of liking it.
There is nothing wrong with liking something for the sake of liking it. But if you see yourself as someone special, or destined to do something, you are pompous. you can’t tell me the compensation is not a reason that people go into medicine. Is this part of your calling?
@KenmanG1982
😂😂😂😂😂
The compensation we get is essentially the minimum floor do this job. Its not why anyone seriously gets into medicine. That essentially gets screened out in undergrad when you go "omg I'm going to spend another decde poor and in debt and working my ass off."
If you are smart and dilligent enough to get through med school there are honestly way more easier paths to the middle class.