Thing is it can happen during the day too unfortunately. But yeah public places filled with people are definitely much better ideas and can narrow the likelyhood of stuff like this potentially happening
AlphaOmegaSin agreed. it can happen anywhere. It just decreases the chances of something crazy happening by a lot. Usually people who are planning to do stuff like this are cowards, and wouldn't meet in a place where someone could easily get help. Good stuff for making a video on it Alpha, I shared on my site as well.
AlphaOmegaSin Unfortunately some crazies won't care if there's people around,but yeah it would lower the chances of this kind of thing happening exponentially, or the person wouldn't agree to that,which would indicate they're shady.
I love how people say "Oh he got shot! Let's ban guns! Guns are bad!" Well what if he got stabbed to death in the parking lot? Would you want to ban knives?
By the way, even if all wepons including guns, knives and stuff like that was banned, people would just kill people in other ways, like with a hammer or shovle. Stop trying to stop crime by banning guns, it's pointless.
To kill someone with a knife you'd have to walk up to them and stab them, or have super strength or aim. To kill someone with a gun all you have to do it shoot, there's no real way to protect yourself from them. Also knives are made for several things while guns were made JUST to kill. Anyone who claims otherwise is a naive dumbass. Guns aren't toys so unless you want to kill things you probably don't need one. It's been proven that more often families kill each other with guns than protecting themselves from outside dangers. So this "I have the right to protect myself yada yada" is just stupid. lol
TalesOfGamerz my point is, there has been murders since the beginning of time. What did they use? Knives, swords, clubs axes. You get my point right? It's human nature.
TalesOfGamerz my point is, there has been murders since the beginning of time. What did they use? Knives, swords, clubs axes. You get my point right? It's human nature.
Alex Ritter It's human nature to survive but it isn't to murder someone for a game. I've had my enemies, I've wanted to smack them in the face but I never did and I certainly never thought or murdering them. We've come further than that, well at least we should have. Whenever I saw someone having something that I didn't I thought "Gee, I should ask for one of those for Xmas" I didn't think "Well, luuks liek I gotta git meself a gun and kill 'im so I can have his!" Ugh. Human nature my ass.
Found your channel through this video. Thanks for sharing the story mate. I see you've managed to rattle up some haters. lol As has been said already, this is your channel and you are not forcing anyone to watch it. Cheers Jim
I'm not surprised. I'm not amused. I'm not even shocked anymore. This is the world, now. How much more can this planet take, such cruelty around the planet? Only our savior can tell whether or not.
I'm not surprised nor amused either, but I hate how ppl act like this never happened in the past, if anything it was worse before. The only reason this stuff sounds so much worse now is because the world has shrunken and we know all news nowadays.
I respect that you opened up about breaking down in crises to people close to you. Just feels horrible to have someone rob you, much less do it with their child nearby. Makes my little issues with people owing me money or deserting me feel miniscule
16 year olds have been tried as adults in the past. Why isn't that happening here? The guy that's being tried as an adult is 20 years old so it makes sense. It's just a shame that the 16 year old isn't being tried as an adult.
pilotamurorei Last I checked a 16 year old cannot legally carry, let alone pull the trigger in the middle of a robbery and kill someone. If the state somehow doesn't see this injustice then something is terribly wrong
AlphaOmegaSin you don't try someone as an adult who isn't am adult, that I's lunacy an extremely slippery slope. You are an adult by age not by actions
Like I said, it's gone now. And I'm stopping this conversation. your just fucking crazy. And you literally said ' They should have a child'. Spam me with messages all you want. I'm not responding.
It was sad to begin with, and even more sad hearing you talk about it. Sometimes people are literally the worst. Thank you for sharing the donation pages.
That kid's gonna grow up to learn that his/her parents murdered for a game console. Can't imagine being in that position or in the position of Danny's family.
Sucks with stories like this, literally nothing positive to come out of it. Two low life pieces of shit are still around, good person passes away, child of murderers is left behind. Both sides with family wonder how and why
Alpha thank you for taking on the dark task of being the Bearer of Really Fucking Bad News. Your sharing of stuff like this is necessary and appreciated. Rip in peace, Mr. Zeitz and may those two live and rot in torture and exile.
It's also so sad that they need to raise the money for his funeral, what the fuck happened to crime doesn't pay? All the murderers possessions should be sold to cover it,and if they're under age, their parents. Not that they'll need them for a long time where they're going anyway. But is is really sad. If you look up Danny zeitz on UA-cam, the top video is him doing the ALS bucket challenge. He was a really good guy :(
Nice one...label a species over 7 billion because of some clearly mentally unstable people and poor gun control. Fucking hate hyperbolic shit like this.
MrManBuzz It's not really labeling when anyone can become like that even him, me, or you. Also, when did he label, exactly? All I saw was an example of what happens in the real, fucked up world.
999MonsterJam "We are a terrible species..." Thats not labeling? We are also capable of doing amazing selfless acts and accomplishing feats that still leave me amazed. There are horrible humans out there but to say a species as flawed as us were able to put a man on the moon when we did are terrible is just wrong.
My parents use craigslist themselves and now hearing this just makes me fear the worst. I plan to bring it up to them to at least hope they don't suffer the tragedy this poor lad suffered himself.
This was a terrible thing to happen, I feel that rage man. I have it inside also, it cuts me deep to hear of such terrible disrespect for another persons life or just for people in general. Keep doing what you're doing though brother, it's good to see that this really does make people angry and not just apathetic like it sometimes feels like people are.
MrManBuzz what are you talking about. Its not like he's going to go out and shoot someone in cold blood. Its for self defense. I have my CC license, and hope and pray that I will never have to use it. But if the time comes that I need to in order to protect myself or someone else, I'm going to be happy that I have it.
This is so sad. I hope that not only do they get charged for Danny's death, but for child endangerment as well. The baby could have been shot or hurt in the process. Seeing as how they did something so horrible and stupid, I wouldn't be surprised if they just wanted to steal the PS4 so they could sell it for drug money. It's so sad how there's so much needless violence in the world, especially in the Middle East, Mexico, and Central America. There's just no need to be killing each other.
You hear nothing but bad news from it because that's the only thing that goes on the news. I mean you won't see on the news how someone was selling a car on craigslist, sold it, got the money and everyone lived happily ever after, will you.
I've actually used Craigslist as a trusted source for job hunting in my local area, for businesses that can't afford maintaining higher rate advertising, like the major store chains, banks, etc.
Fiery Lizard to be honest they have been more bad press around Craigslist then other site out there, you don't here any horror stories around eBay or Amazon.
There's only bad news from craigslist because nobody really says anything about successful transactions. All you need to do is negotiate on a public place to meet that's populated to complete the transactions in. I've gotten a few things through craigslist at a steal because I do business with mostly college students either in an area where there will be the most foot traffic or at a mall. You have to be smart if you don't want to wind up like the people who die because they decided to meet somewhere unfamiliar or unpopulated.
I seriously doubt the robbery was so they could play games on an Xbox One. It was probably some junkies who figured they could sell or pawn it off for drug money since they are the new system and still expensive as help.
So when there is a robbery it has to be about Drugs. You know why this shit happens so much in USA. Because of GUNS being fucking legal and you can buy them everywhere.
SuperHns because it doesn't make any logical sense to kill someone over a video game. Now throw in addition a problem that is WAY more prevalent with Americans than guns and now the motive becomes more possible. DUI still kills more people than guns. Now you do got a point my post is more of an assumption and I can't fact check it because of privacy laws which will keep that information out of my reach. However if you want to find out why a problem happens you can't just answer that question to solve it but you have to question the answers till you get to the root cause. Why did he get shot? The couple wanted the Xbox without having to pay for it. Why did they want it so bad they are willing to kill someone? The Xbox could be sold for money? What could be so important that a couple hundred dollars could buy that would justify (in obviously an irrational mind) killing someone? And there is where I am pretty much stopped. The most probable conclusion based on history of fatal robberies is well money to satisfy an addiction.
There's an update on the article. Apparently she's being tried as an adult now, though her name hasn't been released yet. Getting better, well, not really. This fucking sucks no matter what happens.
AlphaOmegaSin Yeah,but it was about microsoft maybe buying minecraft,the deal was done and Notch made a letter about it'n'stuff,would love to see your thoughts about microsoft owning minecraft now
For an Xbox One.....nobody wants that shit, I guess brain dead people want an Xbox One....Feel bad for the guy who died, he should have sold it to a friend or to even Gamestop.
Really? Your distaste for the Xbox One is the first thing coming to your mind while hearing this story? Besides that, it's actually a great console with great games coming along.
SirLugash Judge me if you wish, I stand my ground. I put that as my first thing i talk about cause the main story, "person gets shot and dies in the USA" thats nothing normal these storys happen every damn week, the USA is a broken and useless country so I'm not surprised about it. But yeah it sucks the guy died.
As a kid who loved and appreciated Gears of War 2 it hits hard to see someone from my community die while pursuing his passion. That game brought me through rough times and I'm sure it helped him too. R.I.P friend
I'm somewhat confused, the description mentions him selling a PS4 but in the video he says XBox One. If anyone could clarify, that'd be appreciated. Condolences to Zeit's family. T It is seriously disturbing to know that people could do such a thing... At any rate, to people complaining "Oh my Gosh I watch your videos for gaming not this stuff, ugh! I stopped watching when I realized this was a rant video. Unsubbing." I can't believe someone could be so ridiculous. For starters, this is Alpha's channel, he is free to talk about whatever the hell he wants to. Second, are you incapable of reading? The title alone makes it pretty obvious this isn't going to be a fun-filled gaming video. You must need a refresher course in first grade reading.
yeah have to agree with you on oh well petty much all of it. i mean the title is rather clear and if they followed any of his past videos about people do fucking dumb stuff and harming/killing someone. they should of at least known by the title this was going to be bad news and most likely a rant. not some sort of happy lucky go song. then again some people will find any reason to bitch and complain about even the smallest of things. that or just want to be notice. who knows really. who knows.
Honestly it doesn't matter a man's life was taken for a few $100 dollars so if it was PS4 or Xbone it doesn't change the fact a man died a very well loved and respected man
Don't hear this with the PC master race do you. Edit to clarify to some of the people that are posting stupid shit: I do not find this funny, its fucking horrible and tragic. But i had to bring this up, being a pc gamer, i've never heard of anyone stealing or mugging or killing someone for a gaming PC.
Alfarjamie Nobody wants to hear about this no matter what system you play on. The fact that some fanboys try to use this as an excuse to make their side look better is pathetic.
Your insensitive and dumb as fuck comment aside, say the person was selling their gaming PC...you literally can substitute the PS4 for any random thing out there. The situation is the same....completely and utterly messed up on every level
AlphaOmegaSin i like your videos and agree with a lot of your view points and opinions have you ever thought of starting to go dumpster diving and making videos. I know you did it once with chief and those other guys.
I agree, Alpha. On the bright side, I always look forward to when you post a new video. They are informative and funny (not this one, of course). Keep doing what you do and rock on!
You say this like people are just walking out of gun stores in droves with guns. You dont understand the fact that most gun crimes commitd in America are people who don't either legally own that gun and/or dont have a license to carry, so dont try to bring down legal gun owners over the illegal gun owner actions. What you should be saying is to go after the black market which where these guns are actually coming from, not the gun store. Getting a gun from the black market is faster and cheaper than trying to legally obtain a gun. When you say we have a gun problem, no, we have a black market problem that specializes in guns, not legal gun stores legal selling to legal gun owners.
Well all i know is that it's way to easy getting weapons in the US. i hear way too many storys like in the video unfortunately. Where i live it rarely happens, and i'm pretty sure that's because it's very hard for the average guy to get their hands on a gun.
DarkSpyro707 people dont blame the gun store owners, people blame how fucking easy it is to get a gun. people are quick to say that its because guns are legally obtainable in the usa that thats the problem and they arent exacly right when they say that but its likely that there is a corrolation. people want less gun crimes in america. 2 options: cut down the black market for them and all there dealers. or cut down on all guns. illigally or legally because even when most gun crimes are commited with illigal guns, the ones commited with legal guns are all 1 to many.
OriginalBloodAce thats opinion. in truth all countries are the same. its the people that control the country's government as well as each individual that form others opinions on weather a country is good or not.
I know it might sound insensitive but I said the same thing, that had sketchy written all over it, regardless this is a shame and those two people should rot in hell for eternity
AlphaOmegaSin yeah i have shard this with my friends they feel bad my step dad goose risk his life every single night as a nypd cop for over 22 years almost 23 and he died almost twice with a stroke and stuff and he still risk his life for what those assholes I just glade they not in my city lol
I'm seeing a lot of people jumping to hate on America again, when will people understand that when you have certain liberties (like owning guns) you pay a certain price, and that price is sometimes unfortunate. For example. 1) You have the right to protest whatever you think is wrong. if the government is passing a bill that taxes the internet, you can protest that. However people like the westboro baptist church also has the right to protest things they dislike like gays and soldiers, and so they picket their funerals saying thank god for their deaths. 2) You can print whatever you want, like big things such as books, or small things such as pamphlets. People like George R.R Martin have made use of this by making his A Song of Ice and Fire series, however somebody can print out Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler and spread it around. 3) You can own a gun, whether you feel you need one to protect your family or you need one to make yourself feel safe. However some idiot may acquire one illegally or legally and cause damage like we've seen here. My point is that we can't let people such as these, ruin the liberties that we have. and this tragedy can happen anywhere so don't pretend like your countries shit doesn't stink.
We can´t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them, Albert Einstein. Does having those "liberties" granted solve any problems whatsoever?
Completely untrue my friend, law enforcement would still carry guns, I'm actually English but I understand the U.S is a completely different landscape, look at the disarmament of countries like China (Pol Pot), North Korea, and Nazi Germany led too, in the UK we don't have right too free speech, nor protest without permission, it's not bans that are needed, look at the war on drugs for example, it's education about responsibility, personal accountability and responsibility is what is lacking, everyone believes they are owed something, it's a cultural problem, not a gun problem. Obviously I respect your opinion, but the whole point of "the right too bear arms" is too defend yourself, and your property and too defend from a tyrannical government (Like the US Government as of 2014) Guns will always exist, and always be used like drugs, but too ban them will take them out of the hands of law abiding people, and leave them defenseless. These robbers are scum, if they were willing too kill him, whether or not if they had access too a firearm wouldn't have made a difference in my opinion, if they have it in them too kill a defenceless man, they would not hesitate too kill him with there bear hands of other tools
Grobari so you're saying if I put a gun on a table it will kill someone I have a picture ABSOLUTELY perfect for this situation a gun is like a knife it's a tool that gun cannot work without a human hand
Glad you stuck on topic with this sad and shocking news Alpha. Rich, from ReviewTechUsa, who I have respect for, turned his take on the topic mainly into a speech about drugs more than the actual story for some reason. I get why he said what he said but still was odd to drift from the topic.
I understand, I can be thankful that I haven't lost many people in my life, but the few I have brings me pain still. I have had nightmares of losing people I love and I can't shake those despite they are few. I couldn't imagine losing someone to something this ridiculous. Please continue to speak out against these tragedies, make sure everyone who is willing to listen knows, and maybe it can dissuade potential killers, and save potential victims.
As fucked up as this sounds, if he even attempted to clean shit up, well look what happens to our last hope for a real president and not a talking head, Kennedy, this fate would be his even if we could find some way to out lobby the lobbyists. AS negative as this sounds the status quo right now is have every American scared and wary of the other so we cant unite. They (corporations or what have you) can't have that, it ruins everything if we unite and begin to govern or selves...
PTSDSquirrel you guys don't get it presidents are all supreme masters they have limits they have almost exactly as much power as Congress and the Supreme Court the president no matter who it is can make bills, veto or pass bills after congress passes it and give speeches so hop off the hate the president bandwagon because it's wrong and just flat out stupid
Alex Conway Is that why Obama has not been able to pass nearly anything but a few things? Congress decides what goes through nearly 80% of the time. Everything is voted on.
Reminds me of my bestfriend from work. He just wanted to see his kids. Hadn't seen them for months. The girl called and told him to come over to see them. He didn't know that as soon as he knocked he would die. They shot him through the door. It was so bad to see a friend laying in a coffin. RIP to all that goes in such a manner...
Rest in peace, Danny, I didn't know who you were until now, but I'm sure you were a swell fellow. May you find peace in the ever after and I hope the couple get life without parole and the child taken away by the state and (hopefully) get a home that loves him or her. I'm sick of this planet, can we just destroy it and go hitchhiking across the galaxy with Ford Prefect?
People like the couple that killed Dan is the reason why I support the death sentence. Those pieces of cancer infested pieces of crap should rot in Hell. Rest in peace, Danny Zeitz. And my condolences to the family and friends of him that are affected by this unfortunate event that should never happen to anyone.
This is despicable. That poor man. All this over a console?! :( I hope that child is able to grow up to be a better person without the scumbag parents in their life.
Alpha please keep being a sweetheart and don't listen to these douche bags who try to put you down! they obviously have no hearts and only want to cause more negative responses from you aswell as everyone else who is a good person. You are an amazing person and wish the best for everyone to be safe!
At least the man is in a better place away from this hell hole of a rock! i hope the family be ok and that the murderers learn what they done or just rot, but i prefer rotting..
I went with my roommate once to sell his stuff off Craigslist and we made sure we went to a Starbucks, where there was a lot of people and police. Sad that idiots like those people live in this world, shooting someone over a fucking console.
Hearing about messed up things like this make me lose faith in humanity. The thing that baffled me the most is how that couple actually brought their baby along with them. WTF? I would hate to be that kid when it eventually grows up. To be told that their parents murdered someone for a games console. You just wouldn't live that down and have nothing but shame. I bet the families of the couple are ashamed too. I live in the UK, but even so I wouldn't never sell stuff on craigslist. It's just asking for trouble. Especially meeting someone at nighttime. Utterly foolish. If I want to sell a games console or any games, I would just trade them in at one of my local shops in my town.
I'm from Dallas and I've known a kid that got shot and killed over a pair of air Jordan sneakers.. Known another kid that got shot (luckily for his sake not killed) over 10$ change on a dime bag of weed.. What a beautiful world
Damn it man. I absolutely hate when shit like this goes down. What ever happened to just being a human being? Either way, my condolences to this man and to others who have also fallen at the hands of another persons treachery or stupidity or both.
This kind of crap happens far too often, man. Ever since time began, way even before Craigslist. It sucks knowing that Mr. Zeitz was enjoying himself, just living one day and then the next...not anymore. And I'm sorry to hear that you've had to experience this, Alpha. I'm sure this is the first time you're telling us about it and...yeah, it all sucks.
There are literally no words to describe how messed up this is. Over a game console? So that man's life was more worthless than 400 dollars. Plus they took their baby to a murder scene. I hope all evil in this world comes to an end.
that woman should be getting sentenced to life in prison not only that the baby should be takened AWAY from the couple period. i can't imagine a child witnessing that. those parents don't deserve to breathe and they don't deserve to even have a child to raise.
This is the reason why it’s always best to meet at a public area. If the person is pressuring you to meet at a secluded area, especially at night, move on and ignore them.
Just donated $5.00, this is really unfortunate that something like this had to happen. Thoughts and condolences go out to his family. (sigh) The world sometimes. :(
I love hearing your opinion alpha I am not saying I like news like this but I love your opinion caz when everybody says nothing you speak the truth keep it up man
Unfourtunately... theres a lot of bad news this year for gaming... well in almost everything this year... we cant let this affect us, those who let tragedy define them will always drown themselves in sorrow. It is those who move on that will help shape this sick world... Fuerza Hermano
My prayers go to this mans family, and that these 2 monsters get what they deserve for taking this mans life. I don't wish this kinda thing on anyone I have also dealt with losing close friends and family to tragic deaths.
Also my dads a state trooper and now I worry even more...My dad knew the trooper that was killed.That man was a father and a loving husband and now he's gone because some prick decided to shoot unarmed troopers that were just leaving!!WHAT IN GODS NAME IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY! The entire state of Pennsylvania is despaired and enraged along with me...
This sucks so bad... man.... If you're going to sell your stuff. Make sure you meet during the day in a public place like Starbucks or Target. ect.
Better yet just sell it to your local gamestop.
Thing is it can happen during the day too unfortunately. But yeah public places filled with people are definitely much better ideas and can narrow the likelyhood of stuff like this potentially happening
AlphaOmegaSin agreed. it can happen anywhere. It just decreases the chances of something crazy happening by a lot. Usually people who are planning to do stuff like this are cowards, and wouldn't meet in a place where someone could easily get help. Good stuff for making a video on it Alpha, I shared on my site as well.
I would say sell your stuff on Ebay or Amazon. I have heard too many horror stories about Craigslist. Heart goes out to Danny's Family.
AlphaOmegaSin Unfortunately some crazies won't care if there's people around,but yeah it would lower the chances of this kind of thing happening exponentially, or the person wouldn't agree to that,which would indicate they're shady.
I love how people say "Oh he got shot! Let's ban guns! Guns are bad!" Well what if he got stabbed to death in the parking lot? Would you want to ban knives?
By the way, even if all wepons including guns, knives and stuff like that was banned, people would just kill people in other ways, like with a hammer or shovle. Stop trying to stop crime by banning guns, it's pointless.
To kill someone with a knife you'd have to walk up to them and stab them, or have super strength or aim. To kill someone with a gun all you have to do it shoot, there's no real way to protect yourself from them. Also knives are made for several things while guns were made JUST to kill. Anyone who claims otherwise is a naive dumbass. Guns aren't toys so unless you want to kill things you probably don't need one. It's been proven that more often families kill each other with guns than protecting themselves from outside dangers. So this "I have the right to protect myself yada yada" is just stupid. lol
TalesOfGamerz my point is, there has been murders since the beginning of time. What did they use? Knives, swords, clubs axes. You get my point right? It's human nature.
TalesOfGamerz my point is, there has been murders since the beginning of time. What did they use? Knives, swords, clubs axes. You get my point right? It's human nature.
Alex Ritter
It's human nature to survive but it isn't to murder someone for a game. I've had my enemies, I've wanted to smack them in the face but I never did and I certainly never thought or murdering them. We've come further than that, well at least we should have. Whenever I saw someone having something that I didn't I thought "Gee, I should ask for one of those for Xmas" I didn't think "Well, luuks liek I gotta git meself a gun and kill 'im so I can have his!" Ugh. Human nature my ass.
Found your channel through this video. Thanks for sharing the story mate. I see you've managed to rattle up some haters. lol As has been said already, this is your channel and you are not forcing anyone to watch it.
Cheers
Jim
This is why i love watching all of your videos... i can see, hear, and feel the passion you have for these topics... love it.
Guys, I don't have a Wii U so I guess I'll just go and shoot someone
How can someone think "jail time totally worth the $400 ill save"
I'm not surprised.
I'm not amused.
I'm not even shocked anymore.
This is the world, now.
How much more can this planet take, such cruelty around the planet?
Only our savior can tell whether or not.
***** I guess he does look kinda like a metal Jesus. :P
"now"
It's always been like that. It's actually gotten better
I'm not surprised nor amused either, but I hate how ppl act like this never happened in the past, if anything it was worse before. The only reason this stuff sounds so much worse now is because the world has shrunken and we know all news nowadays.
My friend, I'm very sure we all realize this fact, all we can do is try our hardest to make to life better in this cruel cruel world
thers always been shit like this in the world and always will be. your just growing up
Nearly broke this month, but a story of such an awesome gamer deserved a donation. Thanks for bringing this to peoples attention.
I respect that you opened up about breaking down in crises to people close to you. Just feels horrible to have someone rob you, much less do it with their child nearby. Makes my little issues with people owing me money or deserting me feel miniscule
16 year olds have been tried as adults in the past. Why isn't that happening here? The guy that's being tried as an adult is 20 years old so it makes sense. It's just a shame that the 16 year old isn't being tried as an adult.
It really needs to happen in this case. She knew what the fuck she was doing and a good person was lost because of her actions
AlphaOmegaSin Maybe because it's in Georgia, a state where gun nuts reside and they think it's okay that those fuckers were packing heat?
pilotamurorei
Last I checked a 16 year old cannot legally carry, let alone pull the trigger in the middle of a robbery and kill someone. If the state somehow doesn't see this injustice then something is terribly wrong
AlphaOmegaSin Fucking hope they do go to prison, these two shit stains don't deserve to be let out let alone have a kid.
AlphaOmegaSin you don't try someone as an adult who isn't am adult, that I's lunacy an extremely slippery slope. You are an adult by age not by actions
It would have been irresponsible to leave the baby home alone.
They are irresponsible either way
sporeboy67 They were just looking out for the child.
Mike Barnes They shouldn't have a child.
Joseph Wood You thumbed up your own comment. They should have a child.
Like I said, it's gone now. And I'm stopping this conversation. your just fucking crazy. And you literally said ' They should have a child'. Spam me with messages all you want. I'm not responding.
Humanity has lost it and the media will blame videogames for this shit
They always do
This is definitely not the first time, and by far would ever be considered as the last.
Video games*
It was sad to begin with, and even more sad hearing you talk about it. Sometimes people are literally the worst. Thank you for sharing the donation pages.
AlphaOmegaSin we feel you man. If it's any consultation, you're the best man. Thanks for keeping us informed and reminding us you're people too.
That kid's gonna grow up to learn that his/her parents murdered for a game console. Can't imagine being in that position or in the position of Danny's family.
Sucks with stories like this, literally nothing positive to come out of it. Two low life pieces of shit are still around, good person passes away, child of murderers is left behind. Both sides with family wonder how and why
I hope cps takes him and never tells him about that shit
Oh my god.. I once traded a this same person a Nexus 7 for a netbook.. Now he's shot. Just to think, I shook this mans hand. All prayers to you man..
This is unbelievably sad :(
That's awful. What the hell is wrong with people.
wow sad indeed ;(
Sad...
Alpha thank you for taking on the dark task of being the Bearer of Really Fucking Bad News. Your sharing of stuff like this is necessary and appreciated.
Rip in peace, Mr. Zeitz and may those two live and rot in torture and exile.
It's also so sad that they need to raise the money for his funeral, what the fuck happened to crime doesn't pay? All the murderers possessions should be sold to cover it,and if they're under age, their parents. Not that they'll need them for a long time where they're going anyway.
But is is really sad. If you look up Danny zeitz on UA-cam, the top video is him doing the ALS bucket challenge. He was a really good guy :(
Undertaker Should Just Decapitate Their Heads Off
My faith in humanity diminishes by the day. We are a terrible species if we take someones life just for a fucking game console.
Nice one...label a species over 7 billion because of some clearly mentally unstable people and poor gun control. Fucking hate hyperbolic shit like this.
MrManBuzz It's not really labeling when anyone can become like that even him, me, or you. Also, when did he label, exactly? All I saw was an example of what happens in the real, fucked up world.
***** Why is it when everything allegedly goes to shit, all anyone can do is be pseudo philosophical about the situation.
jzornthgrt Yes becuase things in video games correlate to real life....try clutching to a better straw next time eh?
999MonsterJam "We are a terrible species..." Thats not labeling?
We are also capable of doing amazing selfless acts and accomplishing feats that still leave me amazed. There are horrible humans out there but to say a species as flawed as us were able to put a man on the moon when we did are terrible is just wrong.
My parents use craigslist themselves and now hearing this just makes me fear the worst. I plan to bring it up to them to at least hope they don't suffer the tragedy this poor lad suffered himself.
This was a terrible thing to happen, I feel that rage man. I have it inside also, it cuts me deep to hear of such terrible disrespect for another persons life or just for people in general. Keep doing what you're doing though brother, it's good to see that this really does make people angry and not just apathetic like it sometimes feels like people are.
Shit like this is why I never trust anyone and always pack heat.
And the never ending cycle continues....
MrManBuzz what are you talking about. Its not like he's going to go out and shoot someone in cold blood. Its for self defense. I have my CC license, and hope and pray that I will never have to use it. But if the time comes that I need to in order to protect myself or someone else, I'm going to be happy that I have it.
MrManBuzz
Let me guess you are a Obama supporter .
gonjagoonss Agreed. The dude you're replying to is just a fucking idiot
gjk2012 I'm not even from that side of the Atlantic....Remember the world doesn't revolve around 'Murica.
I hope their baby gets put into a better home where it won't grow up to be a genocidal maniac....
I definitely hope so as well
Same here I hope the baby finds a good family where it can be raised properly.
There's so much shit like this i n the world that I don't feel a tubing about it anymore so much restarted people in the world..
*Thing*
This is so sad. I hope that not only do they get charged for Danny's death, but for child endangerment as well. The baby could have been shot or hurt in the process.
Seeing as how they did something so horrible and stupid, I wouldn't be surprised if they just wanted to steal the PS4 so they could sell it for drug money.
It's so sad how there's so much needless violence in the world, especially in the Middle East, Mexico, and Central America. There's just no need to be killing each other.
You and RTU are the best news sources out there. :)
Thanks for bringing this to light alpha. You're an inspirational youtuber, keep doing what you're doing mush and never change.
Craigslist should be shut down for good,i hear nothing but bad news from that site,don't use craigslist ever! i think its cursed.
You hear nothing but bad news from it because that's the only thing that goes on the news. I mean you won't see on the news how someone was selling a car on craigslist, sold it, got the money and everyone lived happily ever after, will you.
I've actually used Craigslist as a trusted source for job hunting in my local area, for businesses that can't afford maintaining higher rate advertising, like the major store chains, banks, etc.
Fiery Lizard to be honest they have been more bad press around Craigslist then other site out there, you don't here any horror stories around eBay or Amazon.
There's only bad news from craigslist because nobody really says anything about successful transactions. All you need to do is negotiate on a public place to meet that's populated to complete the transactions in. I've gotten a few things through craigslist at a steal because I do business with mostly college students either in an area where there will be the most foot traffic or at a mall. You have to be smart if you don't want to wind up like the people who die because they decided to meet somewhere unfamiliar or unpopulated.
BloodCroft With Amazon You Can Order Things
I've only done 3 craigslist deals ever and I did have a gun on me each time.
I seriously doubt the robbery was so they could play games on an Xbox One. It was probably some junkies who figured they could sell or pawn it off for drug money since they are the new system and still expensive as help.
Hell* you got to love auto correct that has no bad words.
So when there is a robbery it has to be about Drugs. You know why this shit happens so much in USA. Because of GUNS being fucking legal and you can buy them everywhere.
SuperHns because it doesn't make any logical sense to kill someone over a video game. Now throw in addition a problem that is WAY more prevalent with Americans than guns and now the motive becomes more possible. DUI still kills more people than guns. Now you do got a point my post is more of an assumption and I can't fact check it because of privacy laws which will keep that information out of my reach. However if you want to find out why a problem happens you can't just answer that question to solve it but you have to question the answers till you get to the root cause. Why did he get shot? The couple wanted the Xbox without having to pay for it. Why did they want it so bad they are willing to kill someone? The Xbox could be sold for money? What could be so important that a couple hundred dollars could buy that would justify (in obviously an irrational mind) killing someone? And there is where I am pretty much stopped. The most probable conclusion based on history of fatal robberies is well money to satisfy an addiction.
And this, friends, is why the death penalty should never be repealed.
There's an update on the article. Apparently she's being tried as an adult now, though her name hasn't been released yet.
Getting better, well, not really. This fucking sucks no matter what happens.
Every now again i kinda wish kira was real
Also Alpha can you do a video about Microsoft buying Minecraft? Because i really want to hear your opinion.
I already did several days ago
AlphaOmegaSin Yeah,but it was about microsoft maybe buying minecraft,the deal was done and Notch made a letter about it'n'stuff,would love to see your thoughts about microsoft owning minecraft now
AlphaOmegaSin
that was just i possibility (ithink) but they recently just did (like yesterday i think)
EvilDead Ash he already did. He even stated what Microsoft should do if the deal went through. There really isn't anything else he needs to say.
For an Xbox One.....nobody wants that shit, I guess brain dead people want an Xbox One....Feel bad for the guy who died, he should have sold it to a friend or to even Gamestop.
lol
Really? Your distaste for the Xbox One is the first thing coming to your mind while hearing this story? Besides that, it's actually a great console with great games coming along.
SirLugash Judge me if you wish, I stand my ground. I put that as my first thing i talk about cause the main story, "person gets shot and dies in the USA" thats nothing normal these storys happen every damn week, the USA is a broken and useless country so I'm not surprised about it. But yeah it sucks the guy died.
OriginalBloodAce
Fair enough.
Please leave the fanboy comment bullshit aside, and it turns out it was actually a ps4 so now you look like a bigger douche than before.
It's news like this that make me hate this planet.
You're a good guy Alpha, wish there were more people like you spreading the word around.
As a kid who loved and appreciated Gears of War 2 it hits hard to see someone from my community die while pursuing his passion. That game brought me through rough times and I'm sure it helped him too. R.I.P friend
I'm somewhat confused, the description mentions him selling a PS4 but in the video he says XBox One. If anyone could clarify, that'd be appreciated.
Condolences to Zeit's family. T
It is seriously disturbing to know that people could do such a thing...
At any rate, to people complaining "Oh my Gosh I watch your videos for gaming not this stuff, ugh! I stopped watching when I realized this was a rant video. Unsubbing." I can't believe someone could be so ridiculous. For starters, this is Alpha's channel, he is free to talk about whatever the hell he wants to. Second, are you incapable of reading? The title alone makes it pretty obvious this isn't going to be a fun-filled gaming video. You must need a refresher course in first grade reading.
The article said it was a PS4 but it's actually a xbox one
***** oh okay, thank you.
yeah have to agree with you on oh well petty much all of it. i mean the title is rather clear and if they followed any of his past videos about people do fucking dumb stuff and harming/killing someone. they should of at least known by the title this was going to be bad news and most likely a rant. not some sort of happy lucky go song. then again some people will find any reason to bitch and complain about even the smallest of things. that or just want to be notice. who knows really. who knows.
Honestly it doesn't matter a man's life was taken for a few $100 dollars so if it was PS4 or Xbone it doesn't change the fact a man died a very well loved and respected man
Alex Conway
yep. its a great shame.
Don't hear this with the PC master race do you. Edit to clarify to some of the people that are posting stupid shit: I do not find this funny, its fucking horrible and tragic. But i had to bring this up, being a pc gamer, i've never heard of anyone stealing or mugging or killing someone for a gaming PC.
Killing for a ps4 #justpeasantthings
Alfarjamie Nobody wants to hear about this no matter what system you play on. The fact that some fanboys try to use this as an excuse to make their side look better is pathetic.
Your insensitive and dumb as fuck comment aside, say the person was selling their gaming PC...you literally can substitute the PS4 for any random thing out there. The situation is the same....completely and utterly messed up on every level
***** Hey, don't lump me in with OP.
Don't even go there
On a positive not I love your shirt man. Just trying to change the subject. :/
Thanks man, had gotten it just a few days before the Dark Knight premiered in theaters. Wore it that day too
AlphaOmegaSin i like your videos and agree with a lot of your view points and opinions have you ever thought of starting to go dumpster diving and making videos. I know you did it once with chief and those other guys.
What is he poor now....
AlphaOmegaSin dude im tellin you, make that T-shirt video lol everyone wants to see the collection
ChronicConnoisseur fuck yea I would love to see that
I agree, Alpha. On the bright side, I always look forward to when you post a new video. They are informative and funny (not this one, of course). Keep doing what you do and rock on!
Americans: We don't need gun control lol. ._.
You say this like people are just walking out of gun stores in droves with guns. You dont understand the fact that most gun crimes commitd in America are people who don't either legally own that gun and/or dont have a license to carry, so dont try to bring down legal gun owners over the illegal gun owner actions. What you should be saying is to go after the black market which where these guns are actually coming from, not the gun store. Getting a gun from the black market is faster and cheaper than trying to legally obtain a gun. When you say we have a gun problem, no, we have a black market problem that specializes in guns, not legal gun stores legal selling to legal gun owners.
Well all i know is that it's way to easy getting weapons in the US. i hear way too many storys like in the video unfortunately. Where i live it rarely happens, and i'm pretty sure that's because it's very hard for the average guy to get their hands on a gun.
DgonePlays
its easy thanks to the black market, don't put blame on honest gun stores, the underground market is the problem in all this.
DarkSpyro707 That Elliot Rogers guy though, but still people kill people.
DarkSpyro707 people dont blame the gun store owners, people blame how fucking easy it is to get a gun. people are quick to say that its because guns are legally obtainable in the usa that thats the problem and they arent exacly right when they say that but its likely that there is a corrolation.
people want less gun crimes in america. 2 options: cut down the black market for them and all there dealers.
or cut down on all guns. illigally or legally because even when most gun crimes are commited with illigal guns, the ones commited with legal guns are all 1 to many.
what is wrong with you usa?
The more fucked up events like this one occur, the more my love for America fades while my interests in moving to Canada grows
and still they don't make a harder gunlaw
for if they do people get fucking crazy
whitegriffin92093 Yup Canada is great. Much better then the USA.
OriginalBloodAce thats opinion. in truth all countries are the same. its the people that control the country's government as well as each individual that form others opinions on weather a country is good or not.
Its the people not the country.
Why would you try to sell your ps4 at 9:30 at night in a fucking parking lot?? AmIright?
I know it might sound insensitive but I said the same thing, that had sketchy written all over it, regardless this is a shame and those two people should rot in hell for eternity
*****
correction, it has sketchy AS FUCK written all over it. but it is sad.
Agree. RIP young gamer.
Magikarp Swag couldn't agree more.
*****
sadly i kind of agree with you. he should have at the least brought a few friends/weapon. or ask for a different time
You are a awesome person bro , love your channel and the talks like this you have . Keep it up !
Bro. I feel your pain. It never gets easy. Stay up man.
i do not know how much a gun costs in the US, can anyone tell me?
A friendly smile .
A Hi-Point C-9 pistol is the cheapest and durable on the market, the range is from $140 to $200. I hope you got nothing planned?! o_0
xXDeathMetalThrasherXx
just asking because if they had a gun they could have sold it to buy a console instead of using it. far cheaper.
filipposan872
That's what I thought as well.
filipposan872
unless said gun was bought illegally
i wish i can donate but i have no money :x
Share the Go Fund Me page with others you know
AlphaOmegaSin
yeah i have shard this with my friends they feel bad my step dad goose risk his life every single night as a nypd cop for over 22 years almost 23 and he died almost twice with a stroke and stuff and he still risk his life for what those assholes I just glade they not in my city lol
I'm seeing a lot of people jumping to hate on America again, when will people understand that when you have certain liberties (like owning guns) you pay a certain price, and that price is sometimes unfortunate.
For example.
1) You have the right to protest whatever you think is wrong. if the government is passing a bill that taxes the internet, you can protest that. However people like the westboro baptist church also has the right to protest things they dislike like gays and soldiers, and so they picket their funerals saying thank god for their deaths.
2) You can print whatever you want, like big things such as books, or small things such as pamphlets. People like George R.R Martin have made use of this by making his A Song of Ice and Fire series, however somebody can print out Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler and spread it around.
3) You can own a gun, whether you feel you need one to protect your family or you need one to make yourself feel safe. However some idiot may acquire one illegally or legally and cause damage like we've seen here.
My point is that we can't let people such as these, ruin the liberties that we have. and this tragedy can happen anywhere so don't pretend like your countries shit doesn't stink.
We can´t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them, Albert Einstein.
Does having those "liberties" granted solve any problems whatsoever?
Liberty or Death, if you want too live in a police state then fine, don't expect other too just because you have chosen too
Callum Pengelly But ...Didnt the fact that pretty much anyone has a gun caused the creation of a police state?
Completely untrue my friend, law enforcement would still carry guns, I'm actually English but I understand the U.S is a completely different landscape, look at the disarmament of countries like China (Pol Pot), North Korea, and Nazi Germany led too, in the UK we don't have right too free speech, nor protest without permission, it's not bans that are needed, look at the war on drugs for example, it's education about responsibility, personal accountability and responsibility is what is lacking, everyone believes they are owed something, it's a cultural problem, not a gun problem.
Obviously I respect your opinion, but the whole point of "the right too bear arms" is too defend yourself, and your property and too defend from a tyrannical government (Like the US Government as of 2014)
Guns will always exist, and always be used like drugs, but too ban them will take them out of the hands of law abiding people, and leave them defenseless.
These robbers are scum, if they were willing too kill him, whether or not if they had access too a firearm wouldn't have made a difference in my opinion, if they have it in them too kill a defenceless man, they would not hesitate too kill him with there bear hands of other tools
Callum Pengelly Amen!!! Finally Somebody Who Has Common Sense
I feel really bad for this poor guys family and for him may he rest in peace thanks for pointing this news out alpha
This is why you should never meet someone to sell them something. Always always ship only there have been too many cases like this.
Sometimes i wish death penalty was a thing .-.
Only in America. Guns... don't worry, you'll NEVER learn.
Nonsense, sir. She could of stabbed him with a knife just as easily.
Philp Yung
Could've, but didn't, you all love guns too much.
Guns are tools while people kill people. A gun on the table Can not discharge itself
reagan brewer
Tell that to those getting shot by two year olds and 3 year old shooting themselves with lingering guns.
Grobari so you're saying if I put a gun on a table it will kill someone I have a picture ABSOLUTELY perfect for this situation a gun is like a knife it's a tool that gun cannot work without a human hand
they had to change the title to ps4 because killing for a xboxone is unbelievable.
Towlysfriend Don't. Bring. Console. Wars. Into. Stuff. Like. This.
Glad you stuck on topic with this sad and shocking news Alpha. Rich, from ReviewTechUsa, who I have respect for, turned his take on the topic mainly into a speech about drugs more than the actual story for some reason. I get why he said what he said but still was odd to drift from the topic.
I understand, I can be thankful that I haven't lost many people in my life, but the few I have brings me pain still. I have had nightmares of losing people I love and I can't shake those despite they are few. I couldn't imagine losing someone to something this ridiculous. Please continue to speak out against these tragedies, make sure everyone who is willing to listen knows, and maybe it can dissuade potential killers, and save potential victims.
Seriously why aren't you try to run for United States Presidential Election yet? I would Vote for you so you could Clean Shit up!
As fucked up as this sounds, if he even attempted to clean shit up, well look what happens to our last hope for a real president and not a talking head, Kennedy, this fate would be his even if we could find some way to out lobby the lobbyists.
AS negative as this sounds the status quo right now is have every American scared and wary of the other so we cant unite.
They (corporations or what have you) can't have that, it ruins everything if we unite and begin to govern or selves...
PTSDSquirrel you guys don't get it presidents are all supreme masters they have limits they have almost exactly as much power as Congress and the Supreme Court the president no matter who it is can make bills, veto or pass bills after congress passes it and give speeches so hop off the hate the president bandwagon because it's wrong and just flat out stupid
Alex Conway Is that why Obama has not been able to pass nearly anything but a few things? Congress decides what goes through nearly 80% of the time. Everything is voted on.
Reminds me of my bestfriend from work. He just wanted to see his kids. Hadn't seen them for months. The girl called and told him to come over to see them. He didn't know that as soon as he knocked he would die. They shot him through the door. It was so bad to see a friend laying in a coffin. RIP to all that goes in such a manner...
Danm man, i can't believe stuff like this is happening in this day and age .my condolences go to Danny Zeitz' family.
Rest in peace, Danny, I didn't know who you were until now, but I'm sure you were a swell fellow. May you find peace in the ever after and I hope the couple get life without parole and the child taken away by the state and (hopefully) get a home that loves him or her. I'm sick of this planet, can we just destroy it and go hitchhiking across the galaxy with Ford Prefect?
Thank you for covering this story AlphaOmegaSin :(
bring back the chair.
rest in peace Phobos you taught me so much watching your gears of war team and arctic
Second video that brought me to tears knowing what really good people get for a trade. A bullet. Rest in peace Danny
You have summed up exactly why I stay away from meet & greet transactions.
People like the couple that killed Dan is the reason why I support the death sentence. Those pieces of cancer infested pieces of crap should rot in Hell. Rest in peace, Danny Zeitz. And my condolences to the family and friends of him that are affected by this unfortunate event that should never happen to anyone.
The male in the couple didn't ultimately kill him, the girl is the one to Drew the gun and pulled the trigger
Well I would support it too, but 'there are things worse than death'. Prison.
Amen to that.
love the speech mate :) and grieving for that guy who got shop
I don't know what's worse.
The fact that something like this happened...or the fact that I'm no longer surprised that something like this happens.
This is despicable. That poor man. All this over a console?! :(
I hope that child is able to grow up to be a better person without the scumbag parents in their life.
Frankly, you don't have to be crazy to do something like this; You just simply have to evil.
*be
Things happen like this all the time. I give my spiritual blessings to Danny's family. I hope he can start a clean slate on his incarnation.
Alpha please keep being a sweetheart and don't listen to these douche bags who try to put you down! they obviously have no hearts and only want to cause more negative responses from you aswell as everyone else who is a good person. You are an amazing person and wish the best for everyone to be safe!
At least the man is in a better place away from this hell hole of a rock! i hope the family be ok and that the murderers learn what they done or just rot, but i prefer rotting..
I went with my roommate once to sell his stuff off Craigslist and we made sure we went to a Starbucks, where there was a lot of people and police. Sad that idiots like those people live in this world, shooting someone over a fucking console.
"I hate this world sometimes" . I'm with you on that! I don't know the guy but that is really messed up. I've heard horror stories about craigslist.
Hearing about messed up things like this make me lose faith in humanity. The thing that baffled me the most is how that couple actually brought their baby along with them. WTF?
I would hate to be that kid when it eventually grows up. To be told that their parents murdered someone for a games console. You just wouldn't live that down and have nothing but shame. I bet the families of the couple are ashamed too. I live in the UK, but even so I wouldn't never sell stuff on craigslist. It's just asking for trouble. Especially meeting someone at nighttime. Utterly foolish. If I want to sell a games console or any games, I would just trade them in at one of my local shops in my town.
I'm glad I don't have to live in fear from being shot.
Why there are people dislikes this...?
I'm from Dallas and I've known a kid that got shot and killed over a pair of air Jordan sneakers.. Known another kid that got shot (luckily for his sake not killed) over 10$ change on a dime bag of weed.. What a beautiful world
Guys, what you always need to do when dealing with strangers is to always bring a friend with you, the more the better
15k in 3 days for his funeral, there's still hope in the world!
Damn it man. I absolutely hate when shit like this goes down. What ever happened to just being a human being? Either way, my condolences to this man and to others who have also fallen at the hands of another persons treachery or stupidity or both.
This kind of crap happens far too often, man. Ever since time began, way even before Craigslist. It sucks knowing that Mr. Zeitz was enjoying himself, just living one day and then the next...not anymore. And I'm sorry to hear that you've had to experience this, Alpha. I'm sure this is the first time you're telling us about it and...yeah, it all sucks.
There are literally no words to describe how messed up this is. Over a game console? So that man's life was more worthless than 400 dollars. Plus they took their baby to a murder scene. I hope all evil in this world comes to an end.
They wouldn't be junkies at all would they?
The monster is not the wolf that spreads fear throughout the townsfolk but, the man you spent you're life calling 'friend'.
that woman should be getting sentenced to life in prison not only that the baby should be takened AWAY from the couple period. i can't imagine a child witnessing that. those parents don't deserve to breathe and they don't deserve to even have a child to raise.
This is the reason why it’s always best to meet at a public area. If the person is pressuring you to meet at a secluded area, especially at night, move on and ignore them.
I feel bad for Danny and his family. I'm sorry for their lost.
its great you speak your mind like this cause it was a tragedy for this poor guy
Just donated $5.00, this is really unfortunate that something like this had to happen.
Thoughts and condolences go out to his family.
(sigh) The world sometimes. :(
I love hearing your opinion alpha I am not saying I like news like this but I love your opinion caz when everybody says nothing you speak the truth keep it up man
Very sad v_v I've never even heard of this guy before but I'm very saddened to the point where I want to cry. RIP Danny.
To rob someone of his PS4 and kill him... All at the age of 16. This is reality, no matter how twisted this situation is.
I'm sorry to hear of this, R.I.P to that young man. That was soo senseless and evil :(
Unfourtunately... theres a lot of bad news this year for gaming... well in almost everything this year... we cant let this affect us, those who let tragedy define them will always drown themselves in sorrow. It is those who move on that will help shape this sick world... Fuerza Hermano
My prayers go to this mans family, and that these 2 monsters get what they deserve for taking this mans life. I don't wish this kinda thing on anyone I have also dealt with losing close friends and family to tragic deaths.
Dammit, Alpha. Way to make me all emotional...I completely feel for you.
Also my dads a state trooper and now I worry even more...My dad knew the trooper that was killed.That man was a father and a loving husband and now he's gone because some prick decided to shoot unarmed troopers that were just leaving!!WHAT IN GODS NAME IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY! The entire state of Pennsylvania is despaired and enraged along with me...
This is what happens when you have ammosexuals stroking their little pea shooters.
You don't have to apologize for going off. This is a despicable act on all levels.
I thought I can't be more sad or lose more faith on humanity when I hear this story.... Then I read the comments....