I don't think this will have any impact whatsoever on PVP servers. Will be really buggy and people are too exposed and slow when using them. However...., it will be awesome for the roleplaying chads out there and I'm sure it will get use on PVE servers.
I would say otherwise. The catapult may be a really good indirect raid weapons because imagin if you high external wood wall around you and set 4 of these things up and just pelt a base all night then raid them at dawn. May proof to be useful
@@LUL69214 spear eco raiding only takes wood while this requires hundreds of hqm plus frags/wood/lowgrade/etc. Dont see these being part of the "meta" and more a novelty or niche.
Catapults are gonna be OP for large base raiding, drop a Fob, High Wall it, drop 2-3 catapults and use that million stone that just sits there normally.
I think that the siege tower and ballista will be the most popular, especially with larger groups. I still think you should be able to tow SWs with vehicles, if only for protection. You are very vulnerable on a slow horse, and that can easily make the SWs redundant if they're stranded.
To repair the shovel on the ram, you said it needs metal frags, but it shows HQM (0/25) since you couldn't repair it to full HP. HQM would be insanely expensive!!! hopefully it's metal fragments
Well the only thing that will change is that counter raiding will be effortless seeing how much time and movement it takes to prep the siege weapons , without backup players forget about success unless you're offlining in a deserted area lol
Players will probaly just build a low foundation and halfwall to protect a base from siege engines :P Or place those stone thingys on ground. Also wana bet some youtuber will make a trap base from ram tower. I build a base araund ram tower and used it to trap people.
Uncoupling raiding cost from sulfur is a VERY BAD idea. I can already see the late night demolition crews offlining fields of stone bases with the battering ram. LGF and metal is not hard to get, man. This is cooked.
Too slow, too vulnerable, too expensive, too little use cases due to damage dealt. It'd have been one thing if the catapult or battering ram did reasonable amounts of damage to stone and sheet but didn't cost nearly as much as explosives. You're investing a ton more resources into a deployable vehicle that can get destroyed, stolen, and leaves you with your pants around your ankles trying to utilize it. But it doesn't. Best case scenario this is an RP thing or a neat addition to have for a primitive only server themed after medieval times or something.
@@alexwindy3 To be fair thats nothing, my Quad teams usually have that in 1-2 hours. being able to just free farm all the 2x1's with that is alot quicker then farming up sulfur to eco raid.
Lol the horse towing it instead of the cars they have in game is hilarious. Just for that people won’t use them imo. If you could hook an rv onto one of these they might be good.
I'm here on behalf of the rest of the internet........can we fling a horse with the catapult? Like we have to know, will it clip a horse enough to chuck it......
i dont imagine these will but more than a novelty item. to expensive to repair 250 hqm for the battering ram? o.O and it didnt even break the wall.. build time is okay for a project like this. But this just screams offline raid. way to exposed for an online raid to be useful unless you are in a zerg that have 4-5 people dedicated to siege and rest pulling security.
i could see a minor change to bases now including obstructions outside high walls to prevent the towers from being right up against the walls, but thats it. Random spammed barricades and extra walls, not much more change than that
@@TheSpeedOfCthe reason the attack heli doesn't change anything is because it uses regular rockets, wich are harder to aim out of the heli, so it's worse in terms of economics with little to no advantage since you still need to land and go inside. Depending on the balance the siege weapons could be a lot cheaper, not to mention that the tower seems super useful for draining turrets that are placed behind high external walls
Honestly what I'd rather see is a revamp to building. Its been years since it's had any serious attention. New tiles, new deployables (i.e armoured hatches) etc. I honestly don't see seige weapons having a huge affect with how slow they are, unless you're raiding a base without a shooting floor. The tower will be used for offline grubbing. The balista can be deployed on roofs.. so theres that. Either way, appreciate the video Drizza 👊
@@mechanicer3105 I'm just saying it's not free like you said. Neither version of raiding you listed is. I've only experienced one actually truly free raid. Saw someone building a base and went back out to hit a tree and a node. I snuck in, got auth, snuck out. He came back and finished base. He left to go farm, I demoed the foundations, grabbed the little loot for my start, and walked away.
@@_goodnight2075 obv nothing is free but compared to farming thousands of sulfur hiting the ram part once with Hammer to finish a Stone wall is such a small price to Pay for raiding its free compared to sulfur method.
People give facepunch too much credit. as someone who's started playing Rust in the end of 2018 with 7k+ hours. Whatever they add it won't change shit. It's still gonna be the exact same offline raiding. The amount of times i've gotten "online" raided in this game i can count it on my fingers. you won't see smaller groups using this all that much, it's gonna be a zerg vs zerg thing, the siege machines + raid base + 20 turrets.
Monty Python & The Quest For The Rusty Grail- "Is there anyone in that shit shack of a base we can talk to?" "NO! NOW GO AWAY OR I SHALL TAUNT YOU A SECOND TIME!"
What they should do is make sure that a compound which took you a week to build doesnt get laddered 🪜 up in few seconds and someone foundation wiping you under a minute with c4...
Reksmore is gonna make a castle with this. Melee weapons and shields, ballistas and catapults, i can already tell that it’s gonna be amazing.
Oh man, I can already see Oblivion using the Siege Tower as a trap for people using the Ziplines!
Lmfao
It's not an Oblivion video unless he dies to a snap trap or a landmine that he put down.
@@lonewolf9390 knowing him, he'll somehow die to a landmine inside the tower lol.
I don't think this will have any impact whatsoever on PVP servers. Will be really buggy and people are too exposed and slow when using them. However...., it will be awesome for the roleplaying chads out there and I'm sure it will get use on PVE servers.
I would say otherwise. The catapult may be a really good indirect raid weapons because imagin if you high external wood wall around you and set 4 of these things up and just pelt a base all night then raid them at dawn. May proof to be useful
Probably be used for goofy offlines only, could never see somebody pulling one of these in the middle of an online lmfao
bro has never done a eco raid with spears lol
I think the siege towers could do decently for small-mid size raids, not for the massive bases though
@@LUL69214 spear eco raiding only takes wood while this requires hundreds of hqm plus frags/wood/lowgrade/etc. Dont see these being part of the "meta" and more a novelty or niche.
Catapults are gonna be OP for large base raiding, drop a Fob, High Wall it, drop 2-3 catapults and use that million stone that just sits there normally.
towing with cars really should be added if they can get that to work
I think that the siege tower and ballista will be the most popular, especially with larger groups. I still think you should be able to tow SWs with vehicles, if only for protection. You are very vulnerable on a slow horse, and that can easily make the SWs redundant if they're stranded.
I haven't played rust in almost a year. But I'm coming back now! I can't miss the siege weapon shenanigans that are about to flood these servers.
It's gonna be so fun i hope they are balanced properly tho lol
Log in
Get harassed by roof camper
Uninstall
Watch UA-camrs use the new stuff
Sounds like you only play official servers. Try other servers
I basically only watch Rust updates to see what Stimpee will (ab)use next
LMFAOOO
I can’t wait to watch him PENETRATE people’s bases.
they should allow it to be towed by car but make the default speed while set up to tow be very slow.
I want to do a wipe with no guns. Just swords bows and siege weapons
I really like this, but whats the point when zergs rush monuments and get rockets/c4 within a couple of hours?
play solo or duo servers
Eco raid with 220 hqm + metal frags + wood etc ??
dont forget the lowgrey dud
I doubt the numbers are final this is early testing phase still
It’d be cool if they made the explosive expensive but crazy high splash damage and C4 level damage. Then incend does a massive spread of fire.
Could you skip red card at launch with the tower?
Probably not
Square stone barricades should make fun obstacles for the siege tower 🗼
The siege weapon looks best for external walls, blocking counters access.
A moving roofcamptower is crazy
They should have used this "place down base piece and hit with hammer" model for cars and people would use them.
I think a prim server branch is gonna come without guns rockets etc where these and shields will be available.
To repair the shovel on the ram, you said it needs metal frags, but it shows HQM (0/25) since you couldn't repair it to full HP. HQM would be insanely expensive!!! hopefully it's metal fragments
25 hqm seems fair to level a stone base metal frag would be too op but not 225 hqm that’s just useless
I haven't been excited for a rust update in a long time. Meta or not, this stuff is cool
Imagine putting on a parachute sitting in the catapult on top of a giant hill and using it to fly into military
i guess they had to introduce the siege tower when they brought back anvil rocks, they were impossible to raid.
Well the only thing that will change is that counter raiding will be effortless seeing how much time and movement it takes to prep the siege weapons , without backup players forget about success unless you're offlining in a deserted area lol
Offline raiding just got much easier now we have less noisy weapons and lower cost ammo to break walls.
Cant wait to roof camp with arrows with my ballista
wow Lord Enardo is going to have fun.
Car towing is a must
this changes everything
furnace fence hoppers bout to go crazyyyyy
how i can test in staing branch? i cant find
This is on aux02 atm
the battle for middle earth has begun
battering ram would be very good for silent raiding
10 catapults and then 10 players with parachutes would be menacing. 😂
Players will probaly just build a low foundation and halfwall to protect a base from siege engines :P Or place those stone thingys on ground.
Also wana bet some youtuber will make a trap base from ram tower. I build a base araund ram tower and used it to trap people.
Uncoupling raiding cost from sulfur is a VERY BAD idea. I can already see the late night demolition crews offlining fields of stone bases with the battering ram. LGF and metal is not hard to get, man. This is cooked.
Too slow, too vulnerable, too expensive, too little use cases due to damage dealt. It'd have been one thing if the catapult or battering ram did reasonable amounts of damage to stone and sheet but didn't cost nearly as much as explosives. You're investing a ton more resources into a deployable vehicle that can get destroyed, stolen, and leaves you with your pants around your ankles trying to utilize it. But it doesn't. Best case scenario this is an RP thing or a neat addition to have for a primitive only server themed after medieval times or something.
its kinda scary making stone bases not feel a bit safe..
The ram is like 200hqm to build lol.
@@alexwindy3 To be fair thats nothing, my Quad teams usually have that in 1-2 hours. being able to just free farm all the 2x1's with that is alot quicker then farming up sulfur to eco raid.
Swords, bows, armour, and now siege weapons?
Where are my SHIELDS???
new update looks like a whole lot of new fun to get into lol
Seems like more "for the big clans" content to me. But at least rust is still adding new things all these years later. Good for them.
Roof campers are gonna love that ballista
No chance Balista will be used on normal servers.
Ram and Catapult I can see.
Siege tower? Not really.
Lol the horse towing it instead of the cars they have in game is hilarious. Just for that people won’t use them imo. If you could hook an rv onto one of these they might be good.
That poor, poor horse.
RIP dapple grey.
😭😭😭
what about the noise?
Babe, wake up. Rust is trying to become Cryrodiil in Elder Scrolls Online
😂😂😂
I'm here on behalf of the rest of the internet........can we fling a horse with the catapult? Like we have to know, will it clip a horse enough to chuck it......
This will totally not change Rust. Those things are way to big and undefendable to pose a thread. Offlining might be something else ofc.
i dont imagine these will but more than a novelty item.
to expensive to repair 250 hqm for the battering ram? o.O and it didnt even break the wall..
build time is okay for a project like this.
But this just screams offline raid. way to exposed for an online raid to be useful unless you are in a zerg that have 4-5 people dedicated to siege and rest pulling security.
I dunno if you knew this but siege towers are an offensive tool.
Isane trap base coming soon...
Why add medieval stuff against modern tech? Seems like an interesting update. Kind of a pointless addition imo. What 2 rockets to break it?
Not a fan. As a solo this will make base defense more difficult.
Yea.. but the guy operating it will be a sitting duck unless he has cover
next update:
trebuchet parachute DB satchel meta
Crosbow on a tug boat
Enardo is gonna try to zerg this somehow 😭
We buildin castles now bois
Damn right
I dont think it will change anything
Neither
i could see a minor change to bases now including obstructions outside high walls to prevent the towers from being right up against the walls, but thats it. Random spammed barricades and extra walls, not much more change than that
If the attack heli didnt change much this wont either
@@TheSpeedOfCthe reason the attack heli doesn't change anything is because it uses regular rockets, wich are harder to aim out of the heli, so it's worse in terms of economics with little to no advantage since you still need to land and go inside. Depending on the balance the siege weapons could be a lot cheaper, not to mention that the tower seems super useful for draining turrets that are placed behind high external walls
I think the existence of some this makes metal barricades more of a must for research.
Yo we going see some clash royal type shi if you can launch people with catapults
This will have little to no impact in raiding. Especially the ram.
so basically they made a cheap way to raid stone 2x2 nice
a stone 2x2 is already cheap to raid
rust devs are only limited by their imagination
Honestly what I'd rather see is a revamp to building.
Its been years since it's had any serious attention. New tiles, new deployables (i.e armoured hatches) etc.
I honestly don't see seige weapons having a huge affect with how slow they are, unless you're raiding a base without a shooting floor.
The tower will be used for offline grubbing.
The balista can be deployed on roofs.. so theres that.
Either way, appreciate the video Drizza 👊
@@SaltedCanine shooting floor means nothing with that ram
However came up with this puffed on some strong pot dude 😂 the rammer is straight out of a 8 year olds mind 😂😂😂😂 love it lol
dude where u get ur updates from ?
Roof camping with explosive balista ... Jesus save us!
I think all of these except the ballista should cost 1,200 scrap to research and be at the end of the Tech tree
It won't, at all. Top down is the meta. This helps with top downs lol.
7:51 "unotherwise" WTF did you just say?
Maybe we need stuff on console. Maybe rust developers throw us a bone
Console is a whole different development team
Oh chuffin great, roof campers with ballistas
💚💚
🙏🔮🙏
This is gonna be dope
Hell yeah it is
Nice
🙏💎🙏
Wow more easy ways to raid people
Rust dith not have good ways to destroy people's bases thankgod there's finally a way 😅.
Maby time for me to move on from rust .
It's not that the player base is keeping me .
I'm bit sat I spent so much money into skins
Raiders always have the disadvantage tbh
@@ottoplichters ill take your skins when you quit thanks
dude calling battering ram not that great when it allows u to raid small bases for free 💀
free being hundreds of hqm plus a bunch of lowgrade/frags/etc
@_goodnight2075 one fix of ram for a Stone wall vs 4 rockets or 2 stacks of explo? Tf u on lmao
@@mechanicer3105 I'm just saying it's not free like you said. Neither version of raiding you listed is. I've only experienced one actually truly free raid. Saw someone building a base and went back out to hit a tree and a node. I snuck in, got auth, snuck out. He came back and finished base. He left to go farm, I demoed the foundations, grabbed the little loot for my start, and walked away.
@@_goodnight2075 obv nothing is free but compared to farming thousands of sulfur hiting the ram part once with Hammer to finish a Stone wall is such a small price to Pay for raiding its free compared to sulfur method.
@mechanicer3105 for some, a couple thousand sulfur is easier than hundreds of hqm
Wooloooloo
People give facepunch too much credit. as someone who's started playing Rust in the end of 2018 with 7k+ hours. Whatever they add it won't change shit. It's still gonna be the exact same offline raiding. The amount of times i've gotten "online" raided in this game i can count it on my fingers. you won't see smaller groups using this all that much, it's gonna be a zerg vs zerg thing, the siege machines + raid base + 20 turrets.
I mean that’s what it’s meant to be unless server admin restricted otherwise
Monty Python & The Quest For The Rusty Grail-
"Is there anyone in that shit shack of a base we can talk to?"
"NO! NOW GO AWAY OR I SHALL TAUNT YOU A SECOND TIME!"
What they should do is make sure that a compound which took you a week to build doesnt get laddered 🪜 up in few seconds and someone foundation wiping you under a minute with c4...