Looks like a good boat, simple in design and to build. Looks pretty fast in a good wind. It is build to be a winner and not to sail around the world for comfort and endurance. Nice work for a given purpose.
700 hours at let's just say $20 an hour for rough estimate = 14k + materials. What would a similarly performing vessel cost new? I get it it takes a real enthusiast to dedicate him/herself to a project like this. To take the time to put your own hands and intelligent design on materials shaping and forming them into an artful and purposeful craft is a lifetime achievement. Personally I like to repair broken items and learn about them in the process. Often people discard things that can be
Unless the carbon is designed to take ALL the load, it is totally pointless to use it on a boat whose main strength comes from plywood. The modulus of elasticity of carbon is so much greater than wood, it will take all the loads imposed on it. If it is strong enough for that, fine. If not (and a couple of layers as shown are not) all it does is crack everywhere as the plywood underneath flexes. I see this kind of thinking all the time and it does not work, just ads cost.
Didnt they have another layer of glass on there first?? An S glass or a tri axial would be enough with the carbon fiber and plywood to keep the flex nominal.
Carbon fiber is used mostly because buyers of expensive boats are totally ignorant of what it is and what it does, but it sounds cool so they pay enormous amounts of money so they can brag to their friends that they have carbon fiber boats. The Gougeon Brothers know this. And yes, I read all their technical books by the way. They know their stuff and I am sure they are aware of the technical futility in combining two totally different materials.
How long did it take in real time? Me and my mate sent off for our plans two weeks ago so they should be arriving any minute, This video has made me chomping at the bit even more!
At minimum wage the labor only is 10, 000.00 Dollars! 20,000.00 at boat craftsman wages. For a small plywood boat? add the expensive West System supplies and holy crap! Ha,ha...
PDZ1122 don't know where your getting your info. I am an advanced composite professional which includes carbon graphite impregnated with epoxy resin. Every material out there has a different molecular structure. Which would mean you could never mix anything. When working with composite materials you control the strength and elasticity with the layup orientation of the CF material. Just a little info for future reference.
How do you know ? The beam on it and the lack of a transom implies it is fast, the beam means that there will be a lot of weight out on the edges keeping the boat upright as the wind pushes on the sails.. I bet it is fast, and you know little or nothing about boats.
Reinforcement gives stiffness, and stiff is fast. Could be stiff enough for a year or two without the reinforcing, but she'll be competitive longer when properly reinforced.
And yes, I have the Gougeon brothers books and generally they don't do this kind of thing. Probably a customer insisted on this, certainly no engineer would. CF sells . Especially to the ignorant.
Carbon fiber is in everything top of the line because it works. That's not hype or idiots that buy it. Look at a simple fishing pole. If you want to use a cane pole and act like you know more than the idiots that buy graphite poles, go for it. Who is ignorant??
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Carbon fiber has lots of useful properties. But overlaying a plywood structure with a few layers is not a very efficient use of the material - unless you even understand what modulus of elasticity means, you do not understand anything I am saying here. Mixing materials with different moduli like this is pointless from an an engineering point of view. People who know nothing about structures will buy anything as long as it has CF in it because they have been told it cool/stuper strong/whatever.
@@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449 I can understand the use of carbon on a foam core laminate or balsa, give some stiffness to the structure. But marine ply is inherently stiff in comparison to those other core types. So I think the point he was making here is that in this instance using carbon over marine ply which has inherent stiffness by itself is not going accomplish much in the way of extra overall stiffness.
Well I'm sure you know much more about this stuff than the Gougeon Brothers. I mean what do those amateurs know about wood and epoxy and all that stuff?
I'm not actually arguing with you. Personally I don't think epoxy should be used on wood period. Partly for the same reason you stated earlier. Expansion differential. Plus, if water does get past the epoxy, thru a scratch or even a pinhole, it never escapes and it only promotes rot. Read Dan Danenberg's book on restoration of old wooden boats. He says the same thing.
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Looks like a good boat, simple in design and to build. Looks pretty fast in a good wind. It is build to be a winner and not to sail around the world for comfort and endurance. Nice work for a given purpose.
Damn. That was awesome! Soooo many questions! I am going to examine it frame by frame!
As an ex-wooden boatbuilder with 30 years of this type of work under my belt, no wonder I feel exhausted on ocassions !
Beautiful boat, but I'm a bit old and can't quite move as fast as those guys. They did a wonderful job and built a beautiful sailboat.
That was awesome and fun to watch thank you for posting
Zacharias Brink .p
Nice info, thx for sharing
Bravo ! ça c'est vivre avec bonheur sa passion !
Wow, cool boat. Nice lines
a lot of work maybe, but sweet result. beautiful boat.
700 hours at let's just say $20 an hour for rough estimate = 14k + materials. What would a similarly performing vessel cost new?
I get it it takes a real enthusiast to dedicate him/herself to a project like this. To take the time to put your own hands and intelligent design on materials shaping and forming them into an artful and purposeful craft is a lifetime achievement.
Personally I like to repair broken items and learn about them in the process. Often people discard things that can be
The building jig is unstable. See how it moves. However: Looks great in the end. I wish I could show up with a similar own video ... :)
nice work!
@hebemalakas It took around 700 man hours.
Could you let us know, did the design work well for you during the race?
GREAT
Good job!
Unless the carbon is designed to take ALL the load, it is totally pointless to use it on a boat whose main strength comes from plywood. The modulus of elasticity of carbon is so much greater than wood, it will take all the loads imposed on it. If it is strong enough for that, fine. If not (and a couple of layers as shown are not) all it does is crack everywhere as the plywood underneath flexes. I see this kind of thinking all the time and it does not work, just ads cost.
Didnt they have another layer of glass on there first?? An S glass or a tri axial would be enough with the carbon fiber and plywood to keep the flex nominal.
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Carbon fiber is used mostly because buyers of expensive boats are totally ignorant of what it is and what it does, but it sounds cool so they pay enormous amounts of money so they can brag to their friends that they have carbon fiber boats. The Gougeon Brothers know this. And yes, I read all their technical books by the way. They know their stuff and I am sure they are aware of the technical futility in combining two totally different materials.
How long did it take in real time?
Me and my mate sent off for our plans two weeks ago so they should be arriving any minute, This video has made me chomping at the bit even more!
Can you send me the plans of the boat please? I really wanted to start to built this boat.
great music. I could picture the lone ranger on silver.
At minimum wage the labor only is 10, 000.00 Dollars! 20,000.00 at boat craftsman wages. For a small plywood boat? add the expensive West System supplies and holy crap! Ha,ha...
Build it your self.
Nice
PDZ1122 don't know where your getting your info. I am an advanced composite professional which includes carbon graphite impregnated with epoxy resin. Every material out there has a different molecular structure. Which would mean you could never mix anything. When working with composite materials you control the strength and elasticity with the layup orientation of the CF material. Just a little info for future reference.
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well done nice video :-)
There is no fiber cloth inside? Is this boat going to sail in a bathtub?
Anyone know if that final color was Fighting Lady Yellow?
No word on how the boat performed. I think it was to heavy (way to much reinforcing.)
How do you know ? The beam on it and the lack of a transom implies it is fast, the beam means that there will be a lot of weight out on the edges keeping the boat upright as the wind pushes on the sails.. I bet it is fast, and you know little or nothing about boats.
Miles Williams
It was a beautiful build, and this one was purposely made for the Everglades Challenge. I love the design.
coffeefish It is like a woman with a big bum. Lovely.
Reinforcement gives stiffness, and stiff is fast. Could be stiff enough for a year or two without the reinforcing, but she'll be competitive longer when properly reinforced.
And yes, I have the Gougeon brothers books and generally they don't do this kind of thing. Probably a customer insisted on this, certainly no engineer would. CF sells . Especially to the ignorant.
I barely know anything about boats, if they used wood, how did it turn out so smooth and glossy white in the end?
they fibreglassed it.
sweeeeeet!!!!
ABUSO!!!Awesome!!
Damn was that guy standing fiberglass with no shirt on?!?!?
Carbon fiber is in everything top of the line because it works. That's not hype or idiots that buy it. Look at a simple fishing pole. If you want to use a cane pole and act like you know more than the idiots that buy graphite poles, go for it. Who is ignorant??
Is that carbon fiber they used for the bottom ??
I bet they don't keep that up for 8 hours !
ithought they were just really fast
*@Brian Elstro* If you want a big collection of boat plans that you can use visit this website here:
:
www.BoatPlan. xyz
Happy to see families involved in a family business especially something that takes an artisan/ builder.
Are the Pontoons for this boat?
No. It has a 600lb keel.
I would bet the West System Epoxy writes me back telling me that boat is worth $42,999.
Awesome!!!
Were i can buy the project?
Now build the other half.
Why no bulkheads?
woooow
looked like one layer. with overlaps alone the chine.
how much did all the material cost?
Carbon fiber has lots of useful properties. But overlaying a plywood structure with a few layers is not a very efficient use of the material - unless you even understand what modulus of elasticity means, you do not understand anything I am saying here. Mixing materials with different moduli like this is pointless from an an engineering point of view. People who know nothing about structures will buy anything as long as it has CF in it because they have been told it cool/stuper strong/whatever.
The carbon is because its a sports boat you fool it needs to be light. Do you build boats? I do, now stfu, you know nothing
@@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449 I can understand the use of carbon on a foam core laminate or balsa, give some stiffness to the structure. But marine ply is inherently stiff in comparison to those other core types. So I think the point he was making here is that in this instance using carbon over marine ply which has inherent stiffness by itself is not going accomplish much in the way of extra overall stiffness.
Just a stripe of Wood please.... or it may as well be a plastic boat ;/
Well I'm sure you know much more about this stuff than the Gougeon Brothers. I mean what do those amateurs know about wood and epoxy and all that stuff?
An all plastic boat (Fiberglass) boat is the way to go nowadays...they last forever!
Wood is ok to build the shell...but then cover completely with fiberglass cloth and epoxy.
In composite sandwich ( fiberglass boat) you can use foam or a plywood as a core material and it is glassed over on both sides........
Ok no more Starbucks for you guys...
That is a lot of glass, Kevlar for a sailboat. Yikes
The music good
did I see carbon fiber in there? I am not even sure what I saw.
May I have the size and design?
i550sailboat.com/ is the designers website. Plans in pdf are $100.
I'm not actually arguing with you. Personally I don't think epoxy should be used on wood period. Partly for the same reason you stated earlier. Expansion differential. Plus, if water does get past the epoxy, thru a scratch or even a pinhole, it never escapes and it only promotes rot. Read Dan Danenberg's book on restoration of old wooden boats. He says the same thing.
Why did it take so long?
typical business talk how long in day increments
too much work
"Easy as that!"
One person at 10 hours a day- 70 days. It's not rocket science, dude!
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To fast
And what did we learn from all this???
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Great advertisement for a product.
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Very unhelpful.
Thanks for nothing.
www.epoxyworks.com/index.php/building-the-i550-hot-canary/
Very disgusting video, it seems that people are afraid of learning. So fast, is it necessary?
I knew you could build a boat in 3 minutes. now where's my fast forward button.