As long as it’s not normal skins. I don’t want to get lvl 200 for super styles just for some little Timmy who was born after the games release to purchase it for 10 bucks with Mommys credit card.
@@supremesavageXD some people either don't know about the game at the time or aren't even old enough to play it. Should my little brother have just played the last marvel season while he was the womb? Or are you willing to use a braincell to admit that you spoke without thinking?
Glad their doing it now before the next season so it’s not like the Last Marvel season. lots of people can’t play as their favorite Marvel characters (Doom,Stark,Wolverine) so being able to have the chance for the Marvel characters for next season to come back is great.
7:51 I honestly just found this change surprising. Since I’ve never cared about item exclusivity, I lean more towards being for it. I think this is good for the Marvel season coming up since that will definitely have a bunch of licensed Marvel characters.
Another thing that people are forgetting is that the battlepass is only 950 V-Bucks. Most shop items are around 1200 to 2000 v-bucks depending on the skin. The battlepass is still extremely worth the purchase for the amount of content you get.
Yeah, and I feel like it doesn't necessarily void your progression since the more you did unlock the less you would have to buy later on, since the battle pass is pretty much the price of a cheap skin. And the less you'll have to wait if you have more acquired.
There should be no problem for this imo. They got the FOMO money they exploited out of us during the original release dates so there shouldn't have been a required date to finish the passes. They literally have nothing to lose if they brought back the passes for the original players that didn't finish.
I like the idea of skins being obtainable if you happen to miss a season, but novelties like superlevel styles should be exclusive to the people who worked for them
So, basically, the festival pass version of Billie, and how she can return to the shop, but the reactive style is exclusive to the ppl that completed the pass
Yeah. That's really my problem with the BP. Now there are so many styles most of them ugly and look weird, so the base skins that look better can be in the shop.
Out of curiosity, who cares if a player “earned” an item or bought it? It doesn’t change the game or quality of play for everyone else. I say, load the shop-up with every item that’s ever been in the game. Epic would cash-in and it would have zero bearing on my experience.
I mean there is also the fact of the battle pass being 950 vs the 1500 to 2000 that the skins will probably be when they come our, you get it cheaper via the battlepass
That's what I'm saying people don't realize they're not losing anything if the new players are getting their skins also the og player most likly will get a new exclusive edit style for the skins that come to the item shop if the old BP skin come to shop
I agree w u on how that system should go, personally I don’t mind this change but now that they did this being able to purchase any battle pass u played but didn’t complete or played during the season but didn’t buy the battle pass should most definitely be a thing.
Yes! I've wanted this for a long time. I've owned most of the battlepasses but I didn't always reach level 100, being able to go back and complete past battlepasses you've owned would be a great change as the skins are still exclusive to those who bought the pass but people like me who didn't play much in certain seasons could still get the skins they payed for.
I've been completing all the battle passes I've gotten since chapter 2 Season 6 because I saw Rebirth Raven, plus I only just started chapter 2 season 5, and since then I've been doing all the battle passes. I kinda just got bored of the game since chapter 3 because I was only grinding non stop for the passes and it would still be nice to get something out of the battle passes I buy. The level up quest packs help a lot and it's definitely more than enough for me but anything else I missed like a glider or something, I'll definitely buy if it is worth it in the future
IMO This is the worst solution that Epic could have come up with. By not adding the ability to buy old BP outfits it does nothing for those that joined later (e.g. when Zero Build was added or Season OG). On the other hand all future Battle Passes are now worth less than before. So, Epic is falling back on the old FOMO tactic by saying, "well... it might not come back, but it also might!" This just sucks all the way around. They should have either opened all BPs up or stayed quiet and done nothing. People that want to feel special because they have an old BP skin just seems like a loser mentality. It hurts me in no way if someone wants to come to the game late and buy Darth Vader or whomever. If it makes them happy so be it. BP owners get the items at a discount while late buyers pay more for individual items so that they can enjoy something as well, that would be a win/win.
I wouldn’t really say BP owners get items on discount because it takes weeks to months to level up the entire battle pass depending on how much a day a person is able to play. Item shop skins require no work. Also it’s a bit harsh to say all those people that like exclusivity have a loser mentality. People spend weeks grinding for BP stuff and for it to come back to the item shop kinda hurts. I say this as someone who doesn’t own anything, I’m actually planning on making a new account next season but I’m scared to spend weeks grinding for stuff if it will just come back.
@@OptimusTrime Were not referencing old BP items coming to the shop. Were saying old BP'S should've been made available with this whole "update" because only doing future skins solves nothing. Epic knows they're sitting on a mine of skins probably 60% or more of their player base would be more than happy to shell out 950vbucks for an old BP for and grind it all over again say they missed something. Epic is a business at the end of the day, I just want to know who at Epic claims FOMO/Exclusivity makes them more money than re-releasing old battlepasses and letting us go crazy. But I guess that's why we don't work at Epic, because apparently they've cracked the magic money making formula. I mean we all know the shops been making hella money in the last 9 months (sarcasm ;)
I mostly agree. I do agree that it’s silly to get pride from a Fortnite skin. Everyone I’ve spoken to about this or similar topics says that a skins rarity does matter which just confuses me so much. However, this new info is good because it means we are one step closer to future battle passes coming back. They met in the middle with our feedback and in a few years they will likely bring them back since most OG players would’ve left or just don’t care anymore. Lastly, this is not FOMO abuse. They will let us know what will never come back.
@@legenarylemon Epic games advertised old battle passes as being exclusive, if they reversed that they would lose all credibility and be deemed liars. Many people buy things and will grind for weeks just because of exclusivity. Battle passes having collabs locked behind them increases the amount of time players play the game because they’ll spend a couple months grinding for those items. The more time people play the game, the more likely they’ll buy item shop stuff. That’s the strategy of having someone like Darth Vader be the tier 100 skin. Epic mainly cares about people playing their game as long as possible, that’s why people who average a few hundred players a day on their creative maps get paid thousands of dollars even though purchases can’t be made in creative maps. Play time is everything.
This isn't as big a change as i was hoping. 1. Old pass cosmetics are still locked forever and 2. There's no guarantee the cosmetics you want that you miss will even come out to the shop
@@raidengoodman8754you’re telling me that you think bonus styles for getting level 200 should NOT be exclusive and be for everyone? Even if the original ppl that had it grinded for it?
This really sucks, makes sense to do for the upcoming marvel battle pass, but the biggest complaint on this topic is skins already lost to time, honestly this smacks both sides in the face
Yeah this half-measure doesn’t really please anyone (I’m sure it does for some). People are still upset about exclusivity and others are upset that it doesn’t apply to old battle passes. Way to go Epic Games.
It's only for future battle passes everyone just watch the whole video and Tabor explains this big change for FUTURE battle passes to come to the shop after 18 months
Honestly I don't really care about rare stuff but the thing is annoying is that people are gonna have a huge flexing war about certain cosmetics not being rare and certain that are rare
its not about flexing its about buying the battlepass and grinding it out just for them to sell it later own in the future deletes the point of working for it. Its not fair for the people who bought and actually worked out the bp.
@@armored8121 I get it I understand the hard work people went through to get certain items in a battlepass but the saving grace for some about this is that some battlepasses won't come back and I know battlepass back than were harder to grind for
@@armored8121but would it really matter if they give original owners exclusive styles to show that they had the original battle pass and grinded to that tier? 🤔
im fine with this, though I do with they would release old BP skins in the shop, especially collab skins, but I think all of them should come back eventually
I'm an OG player and I have missed out on a lot of skins and items. Back in the day it was a lot hard to complete the battle pass and having young kids, I didn't alway have the time to play, so I missed out. I think going forward with this change is cool. Theres a lot of kids and adult who miss out and this give them a chance we didn't get back in the day. It would be nice to get some sort of exclusiveness for completing the battle pass when it first comes out , but it is what it is. Thank for the video. Great content.
Them adding bonus rewards is a huge slap in the face to players. Bonus and quest rewards are for those who grind and go beyond the normal amount of levels while a season is active and for them to just sell them in the shop later makes all the grinding invalidated. Bonus and quest rewards should not come to the shop.
Well,kinda. Something has to be invested. Either you invest time by grinding to unlock it (aside battle pass purchase) or you are investing money. And the money invested will prolly be more in total than the purchase of a battle pass.
I'm thinking this may only include the extra set bonus items that are otherwise normal, not the super styles. like for example in this season Peabody's default color pickaxe is somehow buried all the way in the bonus section, so likely just stuff like that.
Ur right, but like they say time is money, and you put in the grind to not spend your money, so keep in mind that they won’t be free and they’ll still have to pay vbucks in order to get the bonus/quest rewards
But why does it matter. Yes, we did a lot of work for them but that means that we have the skins for way longer than those people that didn't and they said not all skins and they have to invest in money. I rather grind than pay more money and also wait, just saying.
@@QuandaleDingle5752but whats the point in it having value if you can’t sell or trade it for anything?! There’s no point. A skin having value doesn’t matter if you can’t sell it or trade it.
If they brought back collab skins from past battle passes that would be fine. I have pretty much all of them but I wouldn't lose my mind if one day I saw them in the shop. Everyone should have the opportunity to play as their favorite character in Fortnite.
Good, this way no more of « fear of missing out » and people who didn't have the time to grind a BP can either do it at their own pace or simply buy it later.
@@CasualCat64At the end of the day who cares really ? These are just pixels that are not even a return on investment later, I have alot of skins that I eather end up not using them anymore or forgetting them.
@@DreamerYB gonna be a major drop in player count since no one feels the need to grind out of missing out just wait and buy the skin you wanted later on 😂
I just want to complete quests for old battle pass skins that I didn't have enough time to play for. Like the Omega lights. That and the competitive-only rewards such as loading screens. Ch5 S2 had some great ones that were locked behind limited time comp challenges.
I stayed up all night to get the omega lights so i know how you feel. I do think the challenges should come back however whoever originally completed them should get the colors for the pickaxe
@@uberark3153 Since people keep playing even after reaching lvl200 (maxing out the current battle pass) all previous XP could go to previous incomplete Battle Passes. Or just let me do those stupidly hard and time consuming challenges NOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL.
Omega lights were damn nesr impossible to get if you didn't live on the game. I played multiple hours each day during that season and still didn't get the lights.
Honestly this I agree with. Im on the camp of they should bring back old passes too (I started in chapter 1) but keep the super styles as an exclusive reward for the battle pass.
I have friends who have missed out on cool skins from battle passes so I think this might be a good change. I would still get the battle pass because it’s 950 vbucks for a lot of stuff while a single skin might come to the shop and be sold at 1,000-1,500 vbucks.
This is a horrible idea why would I need to progress in the battle pass if I can just spend money to get it in the future with no effort, defeats the purpose of even having a battlepass, I’ve seen some people point out it does make sense because the battles pass is just 950 vbucks and it’s a good idea because skins are normally 1000 to 3000 vbucks but the reasons battle passes exist is for you to grind
I call this the Paradigm effect. They accidentally release the og Paradigm skin in the shop and now they announce battle passes are no longer exclusive
@@ThaiRestaurant676 I think the solution should’ve been they bring it back once a year that way paradigm can still appear in the item shop but only yearly so long time
I have a feeling this is just another "test the waters" thing. If the future BP skins sell well then I wouldnt be surprise if they find some loophooe that lets them re-release older BP skins. I saw a comment somewhere saying that the exclusivity disclaimer has always said that the items "cannot be earned" later. And if thats true then texhnically they could say "well actuallt, we said they cant be EARNED later. Nothing saying they cant be BOUGHT later. I woupdnt be surprised if they "Accidentally' re-release an older BP skin a couple years from now to test peoples reactions to it coming back If not they could also come up with some compromise, by giving new styles to all the early Battle Pass skins, then keeping the Super Styles exclusive. Personally, as someone who's had every BP since Ch1 S5, I wouldn't mind having older BP skins come back. I mean weve had them all exclusivelu for over 6 or 7 years now. The exclusivity was cool back then. But now theres just so many that it just doesnt feel so important anymore.
I agree 100%, I'd be fine getting the skin without the super styles. they need to do this... please :( i just want chapter 2-5 to return.. i missed chapter 2 and more, and ch 5 season 1.
yeah super levels shouldn't come back as a large amount of players enjoy the grind to get the potentially rare stuff "super levels" how ever they should just bring back progressive level outfits instead of the super levels or make the final style progressive.
@uberark3153 yeah It would be nice if they did, not like I have a say because I did start playing in C3 S4 so I don't have a progressive style or atleast I think I don't
I'm all for this new change, it looks like it's mostly focused on the IP/Collabs It's really crazy to think that skins such as Darth Vader or even Spider-Man himself are locked out from newer players
exclusivity is a joke. it’s super childish to gatekeep a skin in a video game because it makes you feel special. they should bring each battle pass out randomly.
I agree, I think they have definitely been relying less and less on their art department for everything but BPs. I personally loved this battle pass after a ton of mid ones. I'd say it's a W and an L, I kinda feel like the paradigm thing was to test the waters since she wasn't a console exclusive. Honestly though there are so many cosmetics from events and mini-events that are just gathering dust in older players lockers or on epics servers. I know the whole BP situation is tricky and I don't fully advocate for any old skins coming back(though I do think they should create new re-skins that are close enough to the OG because of licensed content like doomguy and Lara Croft and popular characters like Midas, Drift, Omega, Jules, Black Knight, Calamity, etc).
@@Tyrus69lol brother do you not understand how epic went from the verge of bankruptcy/acquisition to a juggernaut in the space? Well it's certainly not just UE5, that's for damn sure.
I think this benefits both collectors and new people coming into the game for future collabs. If collectors want to get the skin early, unlock all the styles and get it cheap this works for them. And other peeps will have to wait 18+ months pay full price like 1500 vbucks and not get every style available. Basically those who get the battlepass are rewarded for completing vs those who might have missed out or didn't finish can still buy some styles or skins but it's not a guarantee which will be. So I feel it's ok.
I believe Fortnite dropped the paradign skin to see if the consumers are interested in old skins or old battle pass skins and once they seen the sells in a small window of time, they said bingo we got action lol.
They need to do this with old battle passes tbh, as a person that has been buying the battle pass since Season 2 Chapter 1, I think it would be cool to get the renegade raider and allow new players to get the old battle pass skins/emotes. I think the only things that should be exclusive are console/phone skins, considering people paid a lot for Double Helix, Galaxy, etc….
@@Jaxodahomie Quick question, why? I've owned almost every Battle Pass since Chapter 1 Season 8 and I would love it other people got to use these skins. Besides, you probably barely use those old Battle Pass skins anyway.
@@NoahParker-ft3gl because the day that happens is the day the game is truly dead just want the decrease in player count for future seasons guess why because there no FOMO attached anymore so no one will feel the need to grind and will just buy the skins later on that they wanted gonna be interested seeing how epic react to this 😂
They would never bring old battlepasses cause the amount of out cry and drama would ruin their community and the game also with the lawsuits that would happen
Maybe later down the line they make it so you can pick one battle pass to unlock in every chapter you played in, I started in season 7 of chapter 1 and want like one old battle pass to unlock
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I knew that last rare skin was no mistake from yesterday, tho I'm done giving money for shit cause of them giving that skin yesterday for free, that was a smack in the face to everyone who failed to claim it in time
I like how they dealt with The Paradigm. If the OGs get an exclusive style, by all means allow people to buy her. For Battle Passes in the future, I am fine with the reselling of the outfits and such, one thing I would want to keep exclusive to Battle Pass owners are the Super Styles. Like Tabor said, it would feel like a slap in the face and I would have to agree on that.
Exactly, people will be upset at first there would be some obvious outrage but in time, it would make Epic more money to sell all the old stuff as opposed to keeping it shelved forever which does absolutely nothing for them.
Yeah, like someone starting now who wanted X-Men could never get a matching team (classic Magneto and Cyclops with pen-and-ink Wolverine and no Storm for example).
I'm for the change, as long as it leads towards more iconic skins coming back. C2S5 is when I started, and I like this trend, if we can go back and get some older skins, I'd definitely be interested in leaving more options open in the future.
This is only for future battle passes. The old ones are going to be locked still. Atleast for now. I the same OG player but couldn't finish some of the passes back then and wish I could have.
As someone who has incredibly rare Fortnite cosmetics, I think this is a great change. Imo you should always be able to unlock any cosmetic you want at any time, but that doesn't mean it has to be as easy to earn as it once did when it originally released.
The original owner of that skin should get an exclusive style like Mandalorian gets a blsck and white style but the people who missed out on baby yoda should get him, and I'd you didn't play that season you should still be able to get mandalorian but without the exclusive style
@@Ghostnz_ YOU DON'T NEED AN EXCLUSIVE STYLE ITS A COSMETIC i used to own black night lost my account but i wouldn;t care if he came back i want everyone happy i hate people who gate keep items its a game
I kinda hope they do this with older passes, but give the people who got it og an exclusive style, so people who missed some older battle passes can get those characters and be happy. The people who got them originally, get to keep their novelty like the super levels they grinded for, or a new style. Both parties can be happy. (I want Catalyst and joined a season late)
Who cares if a skin is og or not?! Older skins should be brought back. It doesn’t matter if it has value or not. An item having value but you can’t sell it or trade it is just pointless.
@pvinkreverie, yeah, but ogs would get pissed off hard. They shouldn't do it. There are replacements to og skins that people aren't paying attention to like spider man zero or magma ragnorok or omegaknight. Which all look cooler than the original skin. Buy those instead of ruining og skins.
@Tabor Hill they want to reduce the fanatic buyers, you see, you already said a backlash of "not worth buying anymore". And, they will increase the variety of the skins, and, reducing the new skins on the shop.
Maybe they are so tired of making new skins after new skins, recycling old ideas and not getting a buck from it? 😅 I think they should bring back at least old bp collabs like Mystique, Darth Vader etc. I don’t really care about old standard skins
This is weird, they gave a unique style for ghoul trooper paradigm and skull trooper, but didn't give one to recon expert. What determines a unique style for a skin? Cuz as of now it looks like the amount of outrage epic gets for bringing it back.
Ghoul and skull trooper were regular item shop skins, with no real exclusivity tag attached to them. Yet they got a unique style, so my point still stands.
I personally think battle pass should be exclusive. But they decided so we can't do anything about it. I think at least some of the styles for the future Battle Pass skins should be exclusive for original battle pass owners.
I agree with certain styles tbh ,i personally think super styles should be exclusive as a reward to players who completed the pass I never cared for passes being exclusive and hoped theyd stop doing that, but i also understand why some people wouldnt want that. I have a friend whos on the side of "gatekeeping" but also not as he understands both sides
Styles for sure should definitely be exclusive in my opinion. It at least allows previous (future) battle pass owners to show they actually played in whatever season the skin came from
@@kittysenpai1670if we had to choose which styles for skins to be exclusive, I say super styles for sure. It makes the most sense and it shows players who has spent time on the season and got passed lvl 100
Here is what i think they should do so a season of their decision if u buy the battle pass you can pick a season that you played as long as u logged in once in that season and whatever battle pass that was there u can also add all the rewards of that into the battle pass u bought I think they should do this on every first season of a chapter so like chapter 6 season 1 and chapter 7 season one
I think this is a great change. I have all the Battle Pass IP characters since Deadpool released in CH2S2 and I woudn't mind if people could get these also if they missed them.
@@primuskuhl Most really want the collabs locked behind BP so epic don't really need to bring all of them only collabs so it would be a win win for all.
@@OverlordGK I'm an OG player and I missed out on a lot. It was way harder to get to 100 back in the day and I had two small kids and did always get the time to play and couldn't get everything. This is a good move. I do agree with Tabor at the end would be cool if you play a season back in the day you could be able to purchase stuff from the season you played. But just like with most of the collabs in the battle pass we still got super styles and it would be cool if that would stay exclusive and you couldn't buy them. just look at the super styles like Spiderman, Spidergwen, Doctor Strange, the marvel season skins, ect... Even with Deadpool sell him just leave the Gray version as an exclusive for whoever did all the challenges to get it. All and all I like this change. Even if they do give out the super styles.
Old battle passes and exclusive skins should be available for those who played during the release of said items, can still get them in the future if they end up regretting not getting them. Then the ones who see value in the skins won’t get mad because the ones obtaining them were there when it released. Whilst also letting the people who want the skins after they left get them
should have grinded more if you wanted them so bad. Oh wait the only reason you want them is because they are rare so bringing them back defeats the purpose just like recon expert nobody wears it now because it was a mid skin to start people only wanted it because it was rare now that its not nobody wears it but guess what the greedy company got their money that's all that matters to them
Honestly an excellent compromise, IP skins (outside characters) and fortnite storyline skins should never have been exclusive in the first place. Good on epic.
As someone that plays this game on a daily basis, but didn't start until C2S3, I would love nothing more than to have the opportunity to go back get skins from BP's I missed. It is funny you featured the Catalyst skin, because that is one of my most wanted skins. I think this is a W change. You will still have the exclusivity for over a year and a half and it will still give future players ways to get things they missed out on.
I don’t want it because it’s stupid if someone didn’t play a season they shouldn’t get the skins because they didn’t grind for those skins and actually do work for them.
Thay will have to wait a year and a half minimum after the battle pass ends and it will cost more to get everything then the battle pass also YOU GET 500 EXTRA V-BUCKS IF YOU COMPLETED THE EAVYTHING IN THE BATTLE PASS SO YOU BASICALLY GOT IT FOR FREE STOP COMPLAINING
I have been gaming for a very long time, and I don't know that I have ever felt like something I got before people doing a quest, or part of a package I bought was undervalued by someone later on being able to buy it. I likely paid less for it than they did later on, I probably don't think about/use/remember what I had gotten then. It had its importance then, and now years later... what was it anyway? A person who played during the first season of fortnite loses nothing if someone two years from now comes in and pays twice as much for something they got during that season and never look at again, or perhaps run constantly but they never encounter this other person using their elite skin. I kind of value the memories connected to a thing, more so than the thing itself.
The main reason they probably did this was because They couldnt re-release skins for the Deadpool x Wolverine movie since both skins and their varients were in a battlepass
Yeah but those are "comic" versions of the skins while ppl would likely want a movie version. Like how now we have a Comic Venom and a Movie Venom in the Item Shop
I’m one of the OGs that actually want skins to return. I genuinely feel bad for the people who missed out on great cosmetics because of different factors. I always considered exclusivity as something stupid unless it’s a promotion like buying a console / phone.
Glad they’re not returning grinded those BP to get these skins and it’s not fair that all that grind meant nun If people can just buy it. Also I missed my share of skins and I’m not crying about it.
I think that the collab items should come back to the shop for everyone. But everything else should be limited to the people who played the season that the items came out. Or not come back at all. Or maybe the other way around. Idk it depends.
I wouldn't put it past epic to do this. It's ultimately up to the player to decide to buy the battle pass for $10/£7 or wait over a year just to buy one of those skins for double the price. I know that there have been some skins I wouldve wanted from previous battle passes that I either missed or didn't level up fully.
Fortnite is becoming less of a game and more of a platform for other business/companies to promote. This Battle pass saga makes sense as next season is another marvel themed season, as Fortnite probably have a deal with Marvel and are gonna wanna keep their skins accessible to newer players in future
Ppl are literally such babies about exclusivity if rarity is what you want you should collect comics or collectibles not 1’s and 0’s. I think they should have made old battlepass collabs available too
in my opinion, they should is fine. All the people who played during the OG seasons and didn’t get the battle pass to just have the skins and styles for free but anyone else who never even play those seasons can’t get it.
artificial scarcity of digital goods and people who defend them are mind boggling to me. You have unlimited supply of these things. Just allow people to buy previous battle passes and work through them at their own pace already. I haven't played since the darth vader battlepass, I'd actually play regularly if I could go back and unlock skins from old passes. It'd actually give me goals to work towards without the pressure of having to log in every day and play
I think that instead of doing this for all battle pass skins it should be only collaboration battle bas skins like iron man and Peter griffin. Just to keep a bunch of skins rare. Who agrees?
At this point they should just put the skin for free for 1 day. This isn't fair to people in different time zones, or people who wanted the skin but couldn't afford it. If They are making the skin free, They should make it free for their entire player base. People got her when they weren't supposed to AND now they keep her AND they get reimbursed too? JUST BRING IT BACK?! how is this even remotely fair to the rest? Like what are they doing💀 so many others missed out on it bc they decided to remove it an hour later..
If you think about it people who get the battle pass and grind to all the cosmetics are saving more money than if they were to purchase them from the shop cuz the skins/cosmetics/packs would cost more than the battlepass itself. Additionally epic could give original owners of the battle pass exclusive cosmetics/skins/content as compensation.
Also the BP is only 950vbucks and for example if they put Vader in the shop he's gonna be at least 2k vbucks, so the from now on you should buy the BPs for a huge savings, not exclusivity.
I hate this change. I love to collect skins and love that I have some that are never going to be available. If the whole reason is licensed products IE Darth Vader and such, stop putting them in battle passes. I hate the collab battle passes anyway. It is a lose, lose, you're right. Not everyone can be pleased.
unfortunately this is for FUTURE battlepass skins, i wish past ones would return for skins like Lara Croft, Kor and Gwen Stacy, but its only the new battlepass skins coming out in the future. i wish this were not the case and it was ALL past and future ones but it isnt
well too bad too sad. It wouldn’t be fair to the people who already bought them because they were promised to be exclusive. Epic won’t break their promise and upset pretty much the whole community just because a bunch of people came to the game too late.
I would like something similar to OG season, like they would take some older seasons but re-imagine the skins: include the same characters which were present in that particular season in the past BUT change their appearance (with new clothes, color schemes etc) so they don't look the same as the vanilla ones... I feel like this way new players will be able to get the characters yet at the same time the original still remains only for the old players... which Epic does/did but not for every skin I am afraid... at least not yet.
The fact they aren’t even going to let us purchase skins like superman or Peter griffin for ppl who have missed out but I ain’t complaining I have them
Here is what they should do, battlepass skins that are NOT collab skins stay locked inside that battlepass meanwhile collab skins like Tony Stark, Deadpool, Doomslayer and even Peter Griffin BUT thd alternative styles will not be available, just the base style to keep the exclusivity that some players want. Only the base style will be available for purchase and maybe some other items like pickaxes and backblings but also just their base style.
@@playstation.e7703 I dont think so, as much as I hate gatekeeping content, some rage kiddies will go absolutely insane if the "I played this season im an OG" styles also get sold would make the gatekeepers angry since they could no longer prove that they had him OG, the superstyles for most collab skins look terrible so thats another factor to consider
Can't Fortnite just do what they did with Deadpool? Have a collab skin in the battle pass, but then release a different variant in the item shop, like maybe for example Iron man, they could release his mk 7 suit (from the Avengers), or Darth Vader, and release his battle damaged version for the Obi Wan Kenobi show.
Because the people that want to og skins back don't think that far. They already were doing in with spiderman zero and omegaknight (which both look better) but they want the og one so ogs who worked hard for it aren't able to feel accomplished that they got a rare bp skin
@@esvg268 True, and it's kinda sad that people think these og skins are the only version of the character to ever exist😂, like bro Iron man has 85!! different armours in the MCU and many, many more in other media
@@sdaly7423 I always really hated this argument and that fortnite chose a side annoys me. If they never put as much ip skins in pass we would be fine. It's a fix to a problem they made themselves and now the people who are getting the new pass have to suffer now. I swear if they do make og passes not exclusive ill get really pissed. I missed out on many good skins but I understand that people worked hard at that time for them. Really even then I don't think fortnite would put tier 1s or 100s in the shop so these people are basically fighting for what sidewinder?
They could but that would cost them more money so they would rather give the crybaby's part of what they want and just sell battle pass skins down the road
I think this is a good change, if I only like one skin from a battle pass this means I don’t need to buy 7 plus skins I’ll never use instead I can just wait for that one skin I like to return
That would make a lot of people quit since their skins would no longer be rare if you could go back and get it. even if you’re talking about only people from back then, there where still a ton of people who played
@QuandaleDingle5752 True. I was an og player, and I have severe regrets not finishing my passes. And I would say do it when the game it pretty much dead like they have nothing to do with it.
@@QuandaleDingle5752If they bought the pass from that time, I feel they should allow them to go back in finish it. Especially the passes during Covid era.
If i was able to choose 1 previous battle pass item, i would choose calamity because she looks so cool, sadly that wont happen but doing this with new battle passes is fine by me
@@ejsphone the point of the battlepass is to get a lot MORE STUFF for LESS like getting one skin for 2000 and geting 9 skins and more cosmetics for 950 jk (some people need to understand)
That's their fault. Remakes of bp skins exist. Neo spiderman or magma ragnarok (which you can buy RIGHT NOW), omegaknight, ascendant midas hell old BP skins have alt variants that you can buy like valkrie. It's just that people don't want exclusivity as a whole and thinks that people who grinded hard for it shouldn't be able to flex it even though old bps were hard to get. Good thing it's for only new bps which the skins aren't that great anyways
I think this is more because of the marvel season being next, and how people had wanted collab skins to not be battle pass exclusives
As long as it’s not normal skins. I don’t want to get lvl 200 for super styles just for some little Timmy who was born after the games release to purchase it for 10 bucks with Mommys credit card.
@@CasualCat64 You can still use super styles, Epic said not all styles will be in the shop
@@supremesavageXD some people either don't know about the game at the time or aren't even old enough to play it. Should my little brother have just played the last marvel season while he was the womb? Or are you willing to use a braincell to admit that you spoke without thinking?
I agree. They were already planning this.
@@himarisuzuki5208He missed out. Tell him to cry about it and move on…
For those wondering, it's basically C5S4 and beyond that are affected by the battle pass changes, not C1S2 to Now
this is pointless then..
@@B3lph3g0ryou are wrong but ok
Glad their doing it now before the next season so it’s not like the Last Marvel season. lots of people can’t play as their favorite Marvel characters (Doom,Stark,Wolverine) so being able to have the chance for the Marvel characters for next season to come back is great.
@@B3lph3g0r Its not pointless for the future but the fact people wont ever be able to get spiderman, gwen, darthvader etc.. is still dissapointing
@@jetstreamsam6435People can play as Wolverine, there’s literally a version of him in the shop right now lmao
7:51 I honestly just found this change surprising. Since I’ve never cared about item exclusivity, I lean more towards being for it. I think this is good for the Marvel season coming up since that will definitely have a bunch of licensed Marvel characters.
Another thing that people are forgetting is that the battlepass is only 950 V-Bucks. Most shop items are around 1200 to 2000 v-bucks depending on the skin. The battlepass is still extremely worth the purchase for the amount of content you get.
And if you fully complete a battle pass you get 1500 v-bucks, which is 500 more then it costs
@@anthonyzabinski4602 very true, all around the best priced battle pass in most of gaming
But muh exclusivity!
@@ImGoat1995screw your exclusivity
But what if I bought for 1 skin and was forced to unlock the rest to get it? But it turns out I could wait and just buy the one skin
Paradigm incident Arc changed Fortnite forever
This is the real live event
@@Lior__playsyou got it man 👍
It could also just be a way to not accidentally release a battlepass item into the shop (The slightly older "Swim Free goof", as I would call it)
@@pvinkreveriereal ☠️
@@pvinkreverieohh shoot lol
I like the idea of finishing battlepasses you previously purchased. I have a couple I wasn’t able to finish
Yeah, and I feel like it doesn't necessarily void your progression since the more you did unlock the less you would have to buy later on, since the battle pass is pretty much the price of a cheap skin. And the less you'll have to wait if you have more acquired.
I never completed season x and im actually upset, the skins are amazing and I goofed up
@@kiddoisagreatlittlegame863 yes I had the battle pass for the mandalorian and couldn’t finish to get the grogu back bling
There should be no problem for this imo. They got the FOMO money they exploited out of us during the original release dates so there shouldn't have been a required date to finish the passes. They literally have nothing to lose if they brought back the passes for the original players that didn't finish.
@@P11Ruben same, though I got all the armer
I like the idea of skins being obtainable if you happen to miss a season, but novelties like superlevel styles should be exclusive to the people who worked for them
So, basically, the festival pass version of Billie, and how she can return to the shop, but the reactive style is exclusive to the ppl that completed the pass
Yeah. That's really my problem with the BP. Now there are so many styles most of them ugly and look weird, so the base skins that look better can be in the shop.
Out of curiosity, who cares if a player “earned” an item or bought it? It doesn’t change the game or quality of play for everyone else. I say, load the shop-up with every item that’s ever been in the game. Epic would cash-in and it would have zero bearing on my experience.
They should give every skin an exclusive style that isnt the super lever like an hat or something that you can only have with the battlepass
Well some of us “work” for our money (in order to buy things).
Edit: I agree that super-level styles should NOT be available though.
I mean there is also the fact of the battle pass being 950 vs the 1500 to 2000 that the skins will probably be when they come our, you get it cheaper via the battlepass
you also gained vbucks for that 950
That's what I'm saying people don't realize they're not losing anything if the new players are getting their skins also the og player most likly will get a new exclusive edit style for the skins that come to the item shop if the old BP skin come to shop
I don’t care about exclusives, just that the cosmetics look cool for a fair deal
@@Gavin_Gladiator975ya but it’s not fair because people play the game day and night and spend money for it to be released later on
And if it’s about collab skins then put them in the item shop not battle pass
I agree w u on how that system should go, personally I don’t mind this change but now that they did this being able to purchase any battle pass u played but didn’t complete or played during the season but didn’t buy the battle pass should most definitely be a thing.
I thought this was for old passes and I was about to lose my mind
same
SAME😅😂
They can't return them They would be sued
Exclusivity is lame for entire skins. Extra styles are different usually.
Same 😂😅
I’ve been wanting them to let people finish old battle passes that they bought but didn’t complete and I feel like this is a step closer to that
Right, only 2 battle passes I never finished, chapter 1 s4, and chapter 2, S3
Yes! I've wanted this for a long time. I've owned most of the battlepasses but I didn't always reach level 100, being able to go back and complete past battlepasses you've owned would be a great change as the skins are still exclusive to those who bought the pass but people like me who didn't play much in certain seasons could still get the skins they payed for.
I've been completing all the battle passes I've gotten since chapter 2 Season 6 because I saw Rebirth Raven, plus I only just started chapter 2 season 5, and since then I've been doing all the battle passes. I kinda just got bored of the game since chapter 3 because I was only grinding non stop for the passes and it would still be nice to get something out of the battle passes I buy. The level up quest packs help a lot and it's definitely more than enough for me but anything else I missed like a glider or something, I'll definitely buy if it is worth it in the future
This is fine I just don't want them in the shop
I did not complete Dr.Strange battle pass and Gwen Stacy battle pass and I wish I had them
IMO This is the worst solution that Epic could have come up with. By not adding the ability to buy old BP outfits it does nothing for those that joined later (e.g. when Zero Build was added or Season OG). On the other hand all future Battle Passes are now worth less than before. So, Epic is falling back on the old FOMO tactic by saying, "well... it might not come back, but it also might!" This just sucks all the way around. They should have either opened all BPs up or stayed quiet and done nothing.
People that want to feel special because they have an old BP skin just seems like a loser mentality. It hurts me in no way if someone wants to come to the game late and buy Darth Vader or whomever. If it makes them happy so be it. BP owners get the items at a discount while late buyers pay more for individual items so that they can enjoy something as well, that would be a win/win.
I strongly agree with what you just said 👍
I wouldn’t really say BP owners get items on discount because it takes weeks to months to level up the entire battle pass depending on how much a day a person is able to play. Item shop skins require no work. Also it’s a bit harsh to say all those people that like exclusivity have a loser mentality. People spend weeks grinding for BP stuff and for it to come back to the item shop kinda hurts. I say this as someone who doesn’t own anything, I’m actually planning on making a new account next season but I’m scared to spend weeks grinding for stuff if it will just come back.
@@OptimusTrime Were not referencing old BP items coming to the shop. Were saying old BP'S should've been made available with this whole "update" because only doing future skins solves nothing. Epic knows they're sitting on a mine of skins probably 60% or more of their player base would be more than happy to shell out 950vbucks for an old BP for and grind it all over again say they missed something. Epic is a business at the end of the day, I just want to know who at Epic claims FOMO/Exclusivity makes them more money than re-releasing old battlepasses and letting us go crazy. But I guess that's why we don't work at Epic, because apparently they've cracked the magic money making formula. I mean we all know the shops been making hella money in the last 9 months (sarcasm ;)
I mostly agree. I do agree that it’s silly to get pride from a Fortnite skin. Everyone I’ve spoken to about this or similar topics says that a skins rarity does matter which just confuses me so much.
However, this new info is good because it means we are one step closer to future battle passes coming back. They met in the middle with our feedback and in a few years they will likely bring them back since most OG players would’ve left or just don’t care anymore.
Lastly, this is not FOMO abuse. They will let us know what will never come back.
@@legenarylemon Epic games advertised old battle passes as being exclusive, if they reversed that they would lose all credibility and be deemed liars. Many people buy things and will grind for weeks just because of exclusivity. Battle passes having collabs locked behind them increases the amount of time players play the game because they’ll spend a couple months grinding for those items. The more time people play the game, the more likely they’ll buy item shop stuff. That’s the strategy of having someone like Darth Vader be the tier 100 skin. Epic mainly cares about people playing their game as long as possible, that’s why people who average a few hundred players a day on their creative maps get paid thousands of dollars even though purchases can’t be made in creative maps. Play time is everything.
I really hope that if you own the old battle passes you can finish them if you couldn’t at the time
Omg same
I do hope, i never finished the ch1 season 7 pass
Womp womp
i hope if i dont own them, i can finish them too.
@@Stinkymoegrow up lil bro
This isn't as big a change as i was hoping. 1. Old pass cosmetics are still locked forever and 2. There's no guarantee the cosmetics you want that you miss will even come out to the shop
At least there's still some amount of exclusivity in the future battle passes
@@Azarath415 there shouldn't be though
@@raidengoodman8754you’re telling me that you think bonus styles for getting level 200 should NOT be exclusive and be for everyone? Even if the original ppl that had it grinded for it?
@@FossilHunter921 yes
@@raidengoodman8754 what a crazy take.
This really sucks, makes sense to do for the upcoming marvel battle pass, but the biggest complaint on this topic is skins already lost to time, honestly this smacks both sides in the face
Yeah this half-measure doesn’t really please anyone (I’m sure it does for some). People are still upset about exclusivity and others are upset that it doesn’t apply to old battle passes. Way to go Epic Games.
They should only do it for marvel seasons
@@ShirmaAkayakuthey should honestly retract this idea while they still can
It's only for future battle passes everyone just watch the whole video and Tabor explains this big change for FUTURE battle passes to come to the shop after 18 months
yea who gives a damn about this if its not non-exclusive after all? do the old ones for everyone instead
Where’s the source of old ones not coming back
@@B3lph3g0rno because it’s not fair for people who bought it and it says not available in the future
dang I was hoping id be able to get rust lord
@theepicgamerguyy literally says it in the video bro watch it again
Give it some more time they are going to go back and make all collab skins go to the item shop retroactively after this announcement clears up
I hope
I think the only reason they're doing this is because c5s4 is bassically all going to be collabs and they don't want another iron man situation
Honestly I don't really care about rare stuff but the thing is annoying is that people are gonna have a huge flexing war about certain cosmetics not being rare and certain that are rare
its not about flexing its about buying the battlepass and grinding it out just for them to sell it later own in the future deletes the point of working for it. Its not fair for the people who bought and actually worked out the bp.
@@armored8121it’s also not fair time gating shit, people have jobs and can’t grind out shit, fomo is shitty
@@armored8121 I get it I understand the hard work people went through to get certain items in a battlepass but the saving grace for some about this is that some battlepasses won't come back and I know battlepass back than were harder to grind for
@@armored8121but would it really matter if they give original owners exclusive styles to show that they had the original battle pass and grinded to that tier? 🤔
@@armored8121Additionally you’re technically getting the skin/cosmetic cheaper for what the item shop version of it will cost
im fine with this, though I do with they would release old BP skins in the shop, especially collab skins, but I think all of them should come back eventually
No let me have a few exclusive things still
@@The_ShadowAngel own a lot of bp collab skins from chapter 2 and up and I am more then happy for them to come back for people
@@The_ShadowAngel that's what superlevels are for
I'm an OG player and I have missed out on a lot of skins and items. Back in the day it was a lot hard to complete the battle pass and having young kids, I didn't alway have the time to play, so I missed out. I think going forward with this change is cool. Theres a lot of kids and adult who miss out and this give them a chance we didn't get back in the day. It would be nice to get some sort of exclusiveness for completing the battle pass when it first comes out , but it is what it is.
Thank for the video. Great content.
Its only future battle passes so next season
OG PLAYER FROM CHAPTER 3 HAHAHAHAHAH
Them adding bonus rewards is a huge slap in the face to players. Bonus and quest rewards are for those who grind and go beyond the normal amount of levels while a season is active and for them to just sell them in the shop later makes all the grinding invalidated. Bonus and quest rewards should not come to the shop.
Well,kinda. Something has to be invested. Either you invest time by grinding to unlock it (aside battle pass purchase) or you are investing money. And the money invested will prolly be more in total than the purchase of a battle pass.
I'm thinking this may only include the extra set bonus items that are otherwise normal, not the super styles. like for example in this season Peabody's default color pickaxe is somehow buried all the way in the bonus section, so likely just stuff like that.
It will probably only apply to extra styles for collab skins or items (for example the Peter Griffen glider that was a quest reward)
Ur right, but like they say time is money, and you put in the grind to not spend your money, so keep in mind that they won’t be free and they’ll still have to pay vbucks in order to get the bonus/quest rewards
But why does it matter. Yes, we did a lot of work for them but that means that we have the skins for way longer than those people that didn't and they said not all skins and they have to invest in money. I rather grind than pay more money and also wait, just saying.
i wish they can sell things from seasons we missed out on (but played in)
Yea for new players
@@JackTrahanOfficial no
@@JackTrahanOfficialdid you read the comment?
@@JackTrahanOfficialdefinitely not for new players smh, that defeats the whole point of being og and makes all the skins lose their value
@@QuandaleDingle5752but whats the point in it having value if you can’t sell or trade it for anything?! There’s no point. A skin having value doesn’t matter if you can’t sell it or trade it.
If they brought back collab skins from past battle passes that would be fine. I have pretty much all of them but I wouldn't lose my mind if one day I saw them in the shop. Everyone should have the opportunity to play as their favorite character in Fortnite.
Good, this way no more of « fear of missing out » and people who didn't have the time to grind a BP can either do it at their own pace or simply buy it later.
There’s still fomo you missed every important collab and 6 years of other skins.
@@CasualCat64At the end of the day who cares really ? These are just pixels that are not even a return on investment later, I have alot of skins that I eather end up not using them anymore or forgetting them.
@@DreamerYB what do you mean who cares? The ppl that missed every important collab and 6 years of other skins care duh
@@DreamerYB gonna be a major drop in player count since no one feels the need to grind out of missing out just wait and buy the skin you wanted later on 😂
i missed out everything. theres no point in having only new battle passes available forever when i still cant get the old stuff.
I just want to complete quests for old battle pass skins that I didn't have enough time to play for. Like the Omega lights.
That and the competitive-only rewards such as loading screens. Ch5 S2 had some great ones that were locked behind limited time comp challenges.
Yeah, I was 5 levels away from Peter griffin
I stayed up all night to get the omega lights so i know how you feel. I do think the challenges should come back however whoever originally completed them should get the colors for the pickaxe
@@uberark3153 Since people keep playing even after reaching lvl200 (maxing out the current battle pass) all previous XP could go to previous incomplete Battle Passes. Or just let me do those stupidly hard and time consuming challenges NOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL.
Omega lights were damn nesr impossible to get if you didn't live on the game. I played multiple hours each day during that season and still didn't get the lights.
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Sorry that you didn't got to lvl 80 in season 4, getting to that high lvl was such a pain.
I think this is a cool idea. But what I think what we were all hoping for was that old BP would rereleased
This will most likely make the new community more frustrated.
Im fine with this as long as you can get everything but the super styles.
Honestly this I agree with. Im on the camp of they should bring back old passes too (I started in chapter 1) but keep the super styles as an exclusive reward for the battle pass.
@@ImGoat1995I agree with u
Glad that atleast some og players aren't whiny brats ...also having superstyles as exclusives would be the perfect compromise
I have friends who have missed out on cool skins from battle passes so I think this might be a good change. I would still get the battle pass because it’s 950 vbucks for a lot of stuff while a single skin might come to the shop and be sold at 1,000-1,500 vbucks.
Finally someone with common sense
Yeah just don’t miss out on Battle Passes
@@herpderp1013 don't forget you profit 550 v-bucks every battle pass, you get 1500 from 950
This is a horrible idea why would I need to progress in the battle pass if I can just spend money to get it in the future with no effort, defeats the purpose of even having a battlepass, I’ve seen some people point out it does make sense because the battles pass is just 950 vbucks and it’s a good idea because skins are normally 1000 to 3000 vbucks but the reasons battle passes exist is for you to grind
I call this the Paradigm effect. They accidentally release the og Paradigm skin in the shop and now they announce battle passes are no longer exclusive
I dont understaand why bcs the og paradigm wasnt a battle pass skin it was just a live event item shop skin
@@tomstudio5535 but they said that it was exclusive to the live event
@@ThaiRestaurant676 I think the solution should’ve been they bring it back once a year that way paradigm can still appear in the item shop but only yearly so long time
This changes everything, hopefully for the better!
I have a feeling this is just another "test the waters" thing. If the future BP skins sell well then I wouldnt be surprise if they find some loophooe that lets them re-release older BP skins.
I saw a comment somewhere saying that the exclusivity disclaimer has always said that the items "cannot be earned" later. And if thats true then texhnically they could say "well actuallt, we said they cant be EARNED later. Nothing saying they cant be BOUGHT later. I woupdnt be surprised if they "Accidentally' re-release an older BP skin a couple years from now to test peoples reactions to it coming back
If not they could also come up with some compromise, by giving new styles to all the early Battle Pass skins, then keeping the Super Styles exclusive.
Personally, as someone who's had every BP since Ch1 S5, I wouldn't mind having older BP skins come back. I mean weve had them all exclusivelu for over 6 or 7 years now. The exclusivity was cool back then. But now theres just so many that it just doesnt feel so important anymore.
I agree 100%, I'd be fine getting the skin without the super styles. they need to do this... please :( i just want chapter 2-5 to return.. i missed chapter 2 and more, and ch 5 season 1.
If they didn't translate superlevels into it I would be fine with this change because me and my friends always work to get them
yeah super levels shouldn't come back as a large amount of players enjoy the grind to get the potentially rare stuff "super levels" how ever they should just bring back progressive level outfits instead of the super levels or make the final style progressive.
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I agree with you, man. I grind so hard for those super styles with my friends
@uberark3153 yeah It would be nice if they did, not like I have a say because I did start playing in C3 S4 so I don't have a progressive style or atleast I think I don't
Thanks for the info Tabor!
I'm all for this new change, it looks like it's mostly focused on the IP/Collabs
It's really crazy to think that skins such as Darth Vader or even Spider-Man himself are locked out from newer players
FACTS
Stopped playing for a while and I missed my favorite Star Wars character. 😭 Just take my money now Epic cmon
exclusivity is a joke. it’s super childish to gatekeep a skin in a video game because it makes you feel special. they should bring each battle pass out randomly.
I agree, I think they have definitely been relying less and less on their art department for everything but BPs. I personally loved this battle pass after a ton of mid ones.
I'd say it's a W and an L, I kinda feel like the paradigm thing was to test the waters since she wasn't a console exclusive. Honestly though there are so many cosmetics from events and mini-events that are just gathering dust in older players lockers or on epics servers. I know the whole BP situation is tricky and I don't fully advocate for any old skins coming back(though I do think they should create new re-skins that are close enough to the OG because of licensed content like doomguy and Lara Croft and popular characters like Midas, Drift, Omega, Jules, Black Knight, Calamity, etc).
@@Tyrus69lol brother do you not understand how epic went from the verge of bankruptcy/acquisition to a juggernaut in the space? Well it's certainly not just UE5, that's for damn sure.
Man i dont know how to feel about super levels its a hard grind just for it to be in the shop
They wouldn't make super styles available to the shop that would defeat the purpose
It not far
I think this benefits both collectors and new people coming into the game for future collabs. If collectors want to get the skin early, unlock all the styles and get it cheap this works for them. And other peeps will have to wait 18+ months pay full price like 1500 vbucks and not get every style available. Basically those who get the battlepass are rewarded for completing vs those who might have missed out or didn't finish can still buy some styles or skins but it's not a guarantee which will be. So I feel it's ok.
The exclusively era is coming to a end
So your telling me og BP are never comming back ? 💀😖
@@Fabiheremyfellasyes
@@Fabiheremyfellasyes. Phew
@@Fabiheremyfellas no never, only new passes will be nonexclusive
@@Fabiheremyfellas Fortnite will never bring back chapter 1-chapter 3 battle passes
I don’t particularly like this but I think it is an interesting idea. At the very least, I think super level styles should stay battle pass exclusive
I believe Fortnite dropped the paradign skin to see if the consumers are interested in old skins or old battle pass skins and once they seen the sells in a small window of time, they said bingo we got action lol.
for sure this shit doesnt happen on accident. same with mako and other cosmetics in history they released on accident........ no never accident
They need to do this with old battle passes tbh, as a person that has been buying the battle pass since Season 2 Chapter 1, I think it would be cool to get the renegade raider and allow new players to get the old battle pass skins/emotes. I think the only things that should be exclusive are console/phone skins, considering people paid a lot for Double Helix, Galaxy, etc….
@@burrowthechurro no this would be the worst thing Fortnite has ever done
Dont worry if they can make money selling it they will
@@Jaxodahomie Quick question, why? I've owned almost every Battle Pass since Chapter 1 Season 8 and I would love it other people got to use these skins. Besides, you probably barely use those old Battle Pass skins anyway.
@@NoahParker-ft3gl because the day that happens is the day the game is truly dead just want the decrease in player count for future seasons guess why because there no FOMO attached anymore so no one will feel the need to grind and will just buy the skins later on that they wanted gonna be interested seeing how epic react to this 😂
They would never bring old battlepasses cause the amount of out cry and drama would ruin their community and the game also with the lawsuits that would happen
Maybe later down the line they make it so you can pick one battle pass to unlock in every chapter you played in, I started in season 7 of chapter 1 and want like one old battle pass to unlock
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i hope this doent mean the quality of all the skins are gonna dip down even more ;(
I knew that last rare skin was no mistake from yesterday, tho I'm done giving money for shit cause of them giving that skin yesterday for free, that was a smack in the face to everyone who failed to claim it in time
I like how they dealt with The Paradigm. If the OGs get an exclusive style, by all means allow people to buy her. For Battle Passes in the future, I am fine with the reselling of the outfits and such, one thing I would want to keep exclusive to Battle Pass owners are the Super Styles. Like Tabor said, it would feel like a slap in the face and I would have to agree on that.
Just unlock everything, they’re leaving money on the table with new players. The og’s will cry about it but never stop playing
Exactly, people will be upset at first there would be some obvious outrage but in time, it would make Epic more money to sell all the old stuff as opposed to keeping it shelved forever which does absolutely nothing for them.
Hahahaha no.. what a child 😂😂😂
Now, this is a W. However, the fact is that it's only for "FUTURE." Battle Passes kinda makes it pointless. I can still never get Spiderman or Raven 😢
There's a few spiderman shop skins
You’ll live
Fr i want spiderman and carnage
Yeah, like someone starting now who wanted X-Men could never get a matching team (classic Magneto and Cyclops with pen-and-ink Wolverine and no Storm for example).
Ngl, I like that better. Cause I can have the old skins and still prove I’m og
I'm for the change, as long as it leads towards more iconic skins coming back. C2S5 is when I started, and I like this trend, if we can go back and get some older skins, I'd definitely be interested in leaving more options open in the future.
This is only for future battle passes. The old ones are going to be locked still. Atleast for now. I the same OG player but couldn't finish some of the passes back then and wish I could have.
As someone who has incredibly rare Fortnite cosmetics, I think this is a great change. Imo you should always be able to unlock any cosmetic you want at any time, but that doesn't mean it has to be as easy to earn as it once did when it originally released.
The original owner of that skin should get an exclusive style like Mandalorian gets a blsck and white style but the people who missed out on baby yoda should get him, and I'd you didn't play that season you should still be able to get mandalorian but without the exclusive style
@@Ghostnz_ YOU DON'T NEED AN EXCLUSIVE STYLE ITS A COSMETIC i used to own black night lost my account but i wouldn;t care if he came back i want everyone happy i hate people who gate keep items its a game
Done with epic games and fortnite.
Back to the good old days with steam and CS.
Here i come.
Yea daddy
I kinda hope they do this with older passes, but give the people who got it og an exclusive style, so people who missed some older battle passes can get those characters and be happy. The people who got them originally, get to keep their novelty like the super levels they grinded for, or a new style. Both parties can be happy.
(I want Catalyst and joined a season late)
This is kinda crazy. Rip to all the OG players but I want some skins from some previous battle passes
No all the previous battle passes will still be exclusive, future battle passes will be in the item shops
@@omarbakr7062 yeah sorry I realized that and was to lazy to edit my comment 💀😭
It’s only for future bp
@@MadMatt32lmao all good 😅
Who cares if a skin is og or not?! Older skins should be brought back. It doesn’t matter if it has value or not. An item having value but you can’t sell it or trade it is just pointless.
It's about time. Wish it was for older battle passes, but at least they're slowly getting rid of exclusivity.
Just give it time man, they'll make bank then change the ToS to bring old stuff back
@@shinozeke8245Never gonna happen. This literally confirms it was exclusive.
@@PHIL_Er_UPGame companies are known for going back on their word, look how quickly Epic came out with this announcement 🙃
ogs would just quit at that point
@pvinkreverie, yeah, but ogs would get pissed off hard. They shouldn't do it. There are replacements to og skins that people aren't paying attention to like spider man zero or magma ragnorok or omegaknight. Which all look cooler than the original skin. Buy those instead of ruining og skins.
@Tabor Hill they want to reduce the fanatic buyers, you see, you already said a backlash of "not worth buying anymore". And, they will increase the variety of the skins, and, reducing the new skins on the shop.
Maybe they are so tired of making new skins after new skins, recycling old ideas and not getting a buck from it? 😅 I think they should bring back at least old bp collabs like Mystique, Darth Vader etc. I don’t really care about old standard skins
This is weird, they gave a unique style for ghoul trooper paradigm and skull trooper, but didn't give one to recon expert. What determines a unique style for a skin? Cuz as of now it looks like the amount of outrage epic gets for bringing it back.
Recon expect wasn't a limited time item it was only a normal item shop skin that why didn't get a style
Ghoul and skull trooper were regular item shop skins, with no real exclusivity tag attached to them. Yet they got a unique style, so my point still stands.
@@Shadow_monnarch they were limited time
I personally think battle pass should be exclusive. But they decided so we can't do anything about it. I think at least some of the styles for the future Battle Pass skins should be exclusive for original battle pass owners.
I agree with certain styles tbh ,i personally think super styles should be exclusive as a reward to players who completed the pass
I never cared for passes being exclusive and hoped theyd stop doing that, but i also understand why some people wouldnt want that. I have a friend whos on the side of "gatekeeping" but also not as he understands both sides
I agree but i think only the collab skins should come back. If they do release other skins they shouldn't release the superstyles
Styles for sure should definitely be exclusive in my opinion. It at least allows previous (future) battle pass owners to show they actually played in whatever season the skin came from
@@kittysenpai1670if we had to choose which styles for skins to be exclusive, I say super styles for sure. It makes the most sense and it shows players who has spent time on the season and got passed lvl 100
Exactly
Here is what i think they should do so a season of their decision if u buy the battle pass you can pick a season that you played as long as u logged in once in that season and whatever battle pass that was there u can also add all the rewards of that into the battle pass u bought I think they should do this on every first season of a chapter so like chapter 6 season 1 and chapter 7 season one
That 18 months, bout to turn into 8-5 months
i think epic soon will see why this game will die, the last updates have just killed this game lockers, rarety, and bps items now...
The game is dying faster now after this.
I think this is a great change. I have all the Battle Pass IP characters since Deadpool released in CH2S2 and I woudn't mind if people could get these also if they missed them.
I feel the same. I just kind of hope that they atleast leave of some sort exclusive like the skull trooper.
@@primuskuhl Most really want the collabs locked behind BP so epic don't really need to bring all of them only collabs so it would be a win win for all.
@@OverlordGK I'm an OG player and I missed out on a lot. It was way harder to get to 100 back in the day and I had two small kids and did always get the time to play and couldn't get everything. This is a good move. I do agree with Tabor at the end would be cool if you play a season back in the day you could be able to purchase stuff from the season you played.
But just like with most of the collabs in the battle pass we still got super styles and it would be cool if that would stay exclusive and you couldn't buy them. just look at the super styles like Spiderman, Spidergwen, Doctor Strange, the marvel season skins, ect... Even with Deadpool sell him just leave the Gray version as an exclusive for whoever did all the challenges to get it.
All and all I like this change. Even if they do give out the super styles.
Old battle passes and exclusive skins should be available for those who played during the release of said items, can still get them in the future if they end up regretting not getting them. Then the ones who see value in the skins won’t get mad because the ones obtaining them were there when it released. Whilst also letting the people who want the skins after they left get them
should have grinded more if you wanted them so bad. Oh wait the only reason you want them is because they are rare so bringing them back defeats the purpose just like recon expert nobody wears it now because it was a mid skin to start people only wanted it because it was rare now that its not nobody wears it but guess what the greedy company got their money that's all that matters to them
@@uberark3153 thats what ive been saying after the rarity goes away those skins never get touch and loses its magic
Honestly an excellent compromise, IP skins (outside characters) and fortnite storyline skins should never have been exclusive in the first place. Good on epic.
what is good about not having old bps?? its for new bps so whats the point?? i need the old ones
As someone that plays this game on a daily basis, but didn't start until C2S3, I would love nothing more than to have the opportunity to go back get skins from BP's I missed. It is funny you featured the Catalyst skin, because that is one of my most wanted skins. I think this is a W change. You will still have the exclusivity for over a year and a half and it will still give future players ways to get things they missed out on.
I don’t want it because it’s stupid if someone didn’t play a season they shouldn’t get the skins because they didn’t grind for those skins and actually do work for them.
I think having to pay more for it kinda evens out that
Thay will have to wait a year and a half minimum after the battle pass ends and it will cost more to get everything then the battle pass also YOU GET 500 EXTRA V-BUCKS IF YOU COMPLETED THE EAVYTHING IN THE BATTLE PASS SO YOU BASICALLY GOT IT FOR FREE STOP COMPLAINING
@@anthonyzabinski4602buddy old passes only gave up to 1000 vbucks
This is a game let people enjoy what they like, others having skins doesn't affect you so stop crying
@@Vulture249 stop yapping bro it’s just my opinion
These new kids should just stop crying because they cannot get a skin that they pay real money for that doesn’t affect their gameplay at all
You just don't understand it different girl battle pass skin's are the best and I'm 21 they should bring back old skin's if you like it or not
@@BigSlapper111I mean 🤷 they know that battle passes are exclusive so yes can’t just start crying when a battle pass is over
I have been gaming for a very long time, and I don't know that I have ever felt like something I got before people doing a quest, or part of a package I bought was undervalued by someone later on being able to buy it. I likely paid less for it than they did later on, I probably don't think about/use/remember what I had gotten then. It had its importance then, and now years later... what was it anyway?
A person who played during the first season of fortnite loses nothing if someone two years from now comes in and pays twice as much for something they got during that season and never look at again, or perhaps run constantly but they never encounter this other person using their elite skin. I kind of value the memories connected to a thing, more so than the thing itself.
The main reason they probably did this was because They couldnt re-release skins for the Deadpool x Wolverine movie since both skins and their varients were in a battlepass
Yeah but those are "comic" versions of the skins while ppl would likely want a movie version. Like how now we have a Comic Venom and a Movie Venom in the Item Shop
Exactly
Because there is no comic darth vader and comic mandalorian
I’m one of the OGs that actually want skins to return. I genuinely feel bad for the people who missed out on great cosmetics because of different factors.
I always considered exclusivity as something stupid unless it’s a promotion like buying a console / phone.
the second i heard of this i was like fuck you epic now after watching this im like fuck you epic
Glad they’re not returning grinded those BP to get these skins and it’s not fair that all that grind meant nun If people can just buy it. Also I missed my share of skins and I’m not crying about it.
@@YOUNGJBR yeah, there are a few bp skins i rly want but thats nothing an item shop reskin can't solve
@@YOUNGJBRu got them all of them for 950, i dont see the issue if they brought them back to the shop and each sold for 1,5k or 2k
I think that the collab items should come back to the shop for everyone. But everything else should be limited to the people who played the season that the items came out. Or not come back at all. Or maybe the other way around. Idk it depends.
They should do what Halo did and have Battle Passes be available forever and you can choose which ones you want to complete.
They should do it after 18 months but keep the super styles exclusive so that the gatekeepers can shut up.
I don't mind this. I wasn't playing when Mystique came out and I'd love to be able to purchase that skin...
Samee
Yeap Mystique, Iron Man and Midas are the only bp skins that I hope to have one day😅
Except that’ll most likely never happen as they’re talking about only future Battle Passes not previous Passes.
@@matt_arnoldthey’re aware of that, they’re just saying that if this new system was applied earlier they would’ve been able to purchase Mystique.
@@IIISofiaIIIsame, but instead of mystique it’s mandalorian for me 😢💔
I wouldn't put it past epic to do this. It's ultimately up to the player to decide to buy the battle pass for $10/£7 or wait over a year just to buy one of those skins for double the price. I know that there have been some skins I wouldve wanted from previous battle passes that I either missed or didn't level up fully.
Fortnite is becoming less of a game and more of a platform for other business/companies to promote.
This Battle pass saga makes sense as next season is another marvel themed season, as Fortnite probably have a deal with Marvel and are gonna wanna keep their skins accessible to newer players in future
Fortnite stopped being a game the moment Creative 2.0 dropped, now this is just another roblox
Very true
Ppl are literally such babies about exclusivity if rarity is what you want you should collect comics or collectibles not 1’s and 0’s. I think they should have made old battlepass collabs available too
in my opinion, they should is fine. All the people who played during the OG seasons and didn’t get the battle pass to just have the skins and styles for free but anyone else who never even play those seasons can’t get it.
Not FREE but for the 950 vbucks
No offense Tabor, but asking Fortnite players to be nice is not gonna happen. They're too toxic to know any better.
Too childish
artificial scarcity of digital goods and people who defend them are mind boggling to me. You have unlimited supply of these things. Just allow people to buy previous battle passes and work through them at their own pace already. I haven't played since the darth vader battlepass, I'd actually play regularly if I could go back and unlock skins from old passes. It'd actually give me goals to work towards without the pressure of having to log in every day and play
I think that instead of doing this for all battle pass skins it should be only collaboration battle bas skins like iron man and Peter griffin. Just to keep a bunch of skins rare. Who agrees?
I wish people who bought the old ones could complete them.
At this point they should just put the skin for free for 1 day. This isn't fair to people in different time zones, or people who wanted the skin but couldn't afford it. If They are making the skin free, They should make it free for their entire player base. People got her when they weren't supposed to AND now they keep her AND they get reimbursed too? JUST BRING IT BACK?! how is this even remotely fair to the rest? Like what are they doing💀 so many others missed out on it bc they decided to remove it an hour later..
Rambunctious
If you think about it people who get the battle pass and grind to all the cosmetics are saving more money than if they were to purchase them from the shop cuz the skins/cosmetics/packs would cost more than the battlepass itself. Additionally epic could give original owners of the battle pass exclusive cosmetics/skins/content as compensation.
Whats the point of the battle pass now
Also the BP is only 950vbucks and for example if they put Vader in the shop he's gonna be at least 2k vbucks, so the from now on you should buy the BPs for a huge savings, not exclusivity.
I hate this change. I love to collect skins and love that I have some that are never going to be available. If the whole reason is licensed products IE Darth Vader and such, stop putting them in battle passes. I hate the collab battle passes anyway. It is a lose, lose, you're right. Not everyone can be pleased.
Ikr. Only kids and new players are crying about it. But where were they when we were grinding daily to collect it. They still drank from mummy
Fair enough, makes sense to let everyone enjoy their favourite characters in fortnite.
unfortunately this is for FUTURE battlepass skins, i wish past ones would return for skins like Lara Croft, Kor and Gwen Stacy, but its only the new battlepass skins coming out in the future. i wish this were not the case and it was ALL past and future ones but it isnt
That is most stupid idea. Peoples wants older battlepasses in item store.
well too bad too sad. It wouldn’t be fair to the people who already bought them because they were promised to be exclusive. Epic won’t break their promise and upset pretty much the whole community just because a bunch of people came to the game too late.
@@speedy9965 they should come back
@@speedy9965 I know but I really want a vampire girl and drift from season 5,Zoe and Valor from season 4
I would like something similar to OG season, like they would take some older seasons but re-imagine the skins: include the same characters which were present in that particular season in the past BUT change their appearance (with new clothes, color schemes etc) so they don't look the same as the vanilla ones... I feel like this way new players will be able to get the characters yet at the same time the original still remains only for the old players... which Epic does/did but not for every skin I am afraid... at least not yet.
@@cryalot378 idea is good for both side
I am an OG and I don't mind Epic sell old battlepass items in the shop. I want the players who missed out on, enjoy their dream skins/items
That would then be hours of my childhood wasted
HAHHAHAH OG FROM CHAPTER 3
Also I hope they keep the super styles and bonus styles rare.
The fact they aren’t even going to let us purchase skins like superman or Peter griffin for ppl who have missed out but I ain’t complaining I have them
Yeap, the Peter Griffin one was the reason I bought 25 levels for the first time 😂
Crew is still exclusive?
Only legacy styles are exclusive the skins themselves aren't
HAHAHAHAHAHA I HAVE FIRST CREW SKIN YOU LUZER KID
Here is what they should do, battlepass skins that are NOT collab skins stay locked inside that battlepass meanwhile collab skins like Tony Stark, Deadpool, Doomslayer and even Peter Griffin BUT thd alternative styles will not be available, just the base style to keep the exclusivity that some players want. Only the base style will be available for purchase and maybe some other items like pickaxes and backblings but also just their base style.
That's what I'm saying
Hold on there bucko, spiderman has an alyernetive style called symbiote spiderman (very popular)
Maybe just the super styles
@@playstation.e7703 I dont think so, as much as I hate gatekeeping content, some rage kiddies will go absolutely insane if the "I played this season im an OG" styles also get sold would make the gatekeepers angry since they could no longer prove that they had him OG, the superstyles for most collab skins look terrible so thats another factor to consider
Can't Fortnite just do what they did with Deadpool? Have a collab skin in the battle pass, but then release a different variant in the item shop, like maybe for example Iron man, they could release his mk 7 suit (from the Avengers), or Darth Vader, and release his battle damaged version for the Obi Wan Kenobi show.
Because the people that want to og skins back don't think that far. They already were doing in with spiderman zero and omegaknight (which both look better) but they want the og one so ogs who worked hard for it aren't able to feel accomplished that they got a rare bp skin
@@esvg268 True, and it's kinda sad that people think these og skins are the only version of the character to ever exist😂, like bro Iron man has 85!! different armours in the MCU and many, many more in other media
@@sdaly7423 I always really hated this argument and that fortnite chose a side annoys me. If they never put as much ip skins in pass we would be fine. It's a fix to a problem they made themselves and now the people who are getting the new pass have to suffer now. I swear if they do make og passes not exclusive ill get really pissed. I missed out on many good skins but I understand that people worked hard at that time for them. Really even then I don't think fortnite would put tier 1s or 100s in the shop so these people are basically fighting for what sidewinder?
They could but that would cost them more money so they would rather give the crybaby's part of what they want and just sell battle pass skins down the road
@@esvg268 Exactly 💯. Finally, so who has common sense
No way…it’s finally happened. It’s ABOUT DAMN TIME!
Future battle pass skins not the past
I think this is a good change, if I only like one skin from a battle pass this means I don’t need to buy 7 plus skins I’ll never use instead I can just wait for that one skin I like to return
I’m buying drift I’m buying it the millisecond it comes(NVM)
It’s not for older passes
It's only future ones
Watch the video before commenting, they said only future battle passes while come back to the shop
It says in the description that it’s only for future BPs, not past ones
There talking about future battle passes not old ones watch the video
I wish they would make a redemption pass to get old items from previous battle passes
That would make a lot of people quit since their skins would no longer be rare if you could go back and get it. even if you’re talking about only people from back then, there where still a ton of people who played
@@QuandaleDingle5752only for ppl that bought it back then
@QuandaleDingle5752 True. I was an og player, and I have severe regrets not finishing my passes. And I would say do it when the game it pretty much dead like they have nothing to do with it.
@@QuandaleDingle5752If they bought the pass from that time, I feel they should allow them to go back in finish it. Especially the passes during Covid era.
@@dragonknife68 if they bought it sure, but if they just played in that season without owning the bp then they shouldn’t be allowed to get it
If i was able to choose 1 previous battle pass item, i would choose calamity because she looks so cool, sadly that wont happen but doing this with new battle passes is fine by me
Low key, I feel this is the solution we needed, a lot of ppl were complaining about battle pass exclusivity.
That’s kinda the whole point of the battlepass
@@ejsphone the point of the battlepass is to get a lot MORE STUFF for LESS like getting one skin for 2000 and geting 9 skins and more cosmetics for 950 jk (some people need to understand)
That's their fault. Remakes of bp skins exist. Neo spiderman or magma ragnarok (which you can buy RIGHT NOW), omegaknight, ascendant midas hell old BP skins have alt variants that you can buy like valkrie. It's just that people don't want exclusivity as a whole and thinks that people who grinded hard for it shouldn't be able to flex it even though old bps were hard to get. Good thing it's for only new bps which the skins aren't that great anyways
@@esvg268what about mandalorian, or darth vader, or eren yeager they don’t have alternative looks in the shows and movies