Using rope to hold valves during valve spring removal and valve stem seal replacement

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  • @ytromu
    @ytromu 11 місяців тому +25

    !!!WARNING!!! After watching your video I decided to use the 'Rope' as opposed to 'Air'. On BMW S63 engine I stuffed cylinder 1 with nylon rope, turn crank until it stopped, removed valve springs. I turned the crank counter-clockwise slightly to release top of cylinder from compressing rope. When attempting to remove rope it would not come out. After using my bore scope to view inside the cylinder, it had somehow developed a knot. At this moment the nylon rope is stuck in the cylinder and will not come out, no matter how much pulling force is applied. I picked at it for 4 hours to try to undo know, impossible. I am now in the process of removing the head to get the rope out, which includes removing turbos, all associated coolant and oil lines, then the exhaust manifold. What a mess!!! DO NOT RISK IT!!!

    • @williamcarnero9595
      @williamcarnero9595 11 місяців тому +1

      You could also try to burn it a little to get something to grab on but yes this method seems dangerous if you can’t get it out, a small pancake compressor and a compression tester hose should be enough to pressurize a cylinder and do this job and not mess with the rope

    • @zaeiki
      @zaeiki 11 місяців тому +1

      La primera vez que cambie los sellos de válvula no use nada para detener los vástagos, (por ignorancia) pero si sabía que se podían caer, pero por suerte no se cayeron

    • @BrokeAsHellChallenge
      @BrokeAsHellChallenge 10 місяців тому +6

      Why would you crank??? Dude never said crank! That's a user error!!

    • @MrBojangles901
      @MrBojangles901 9 місяців тому +2

      @@BrokeAsHellChallenge
      Yes he does say crank dude.. First cylinder at bottom -> fit rope -> crank to compress.

    • @condorb7756
      @condorb7756 9 місяців тому +4

      Seems like a personal problem ive done this tons of times without a single issue

  • @andrewballance4161
    @andrewballance4161 Рік тому

    Wow. This neighbor made his own spring compressor. Petroleum priest.knows his business fosho. Quite impressive. Video so instructive.thank you sir

  • @danman2070
    @danman2070 4 місяці тому

    Thanks mate that is brilliant.
    I had this argument with my brother-in-law and he said the compressor was the only way. I knew there was another way and now you have proven it. Well explained.

  • @stigonutube
    @stigonutube Рік тому +3

    love this rope method and you made it look easy lol, has anyone done this for for V6 engines?

  • @ravinperera4255
    @ravinperera4255 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant, also love the 3d printed tool… excellent work!

  • @danielvasilerusu8894
    @danielvasilerusu8894 7 місяців тому

    Am făcut aceasta lucrare an fata blocului datorita videoclipului tău și mi-a ieșit perfect MULTUMESC!

    • @cosmin_4561
      @cosmin_4561 5 місяців тому

      Salutare, cum ai reusit sa invarti arborele?
      Banuiesc ca nu ai avut motorul pus pe banc ca si tipul de aici...

  • @mirimar1223
    @mirimar1223 Рік тому +2

    Great detail as always. Bought your kit. Now I'm looking forward to doing this job👍

  • @jerryp8990
    @jerryp8990 11 місяців тому

    Well done and explained! Only thing I’d recommend is…mentioning to put something (rag) over in the spark hole(s) in case one drops that nut or retainer slips. Last thing you want is to drop parts down there.

  • @FinnishCarGuys
    @FinnishCarGuys Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this! Only need to replace one valve stem seal that's come loose on my 205 Pug, wouldn't want to go through the trouble of removing the whole head etc.

  • @jonbeck9118
    @jonbeck9118 11 місяців тому +1

    Do you make a spring compressor tool for the N14 Mini engines?

  • @rn7488
    @rn7488 Рік тому +1

    thanks for sharing this method. I will try this.

  • @BrokeAsHellChallenge
    @BrokeAsHellChallenge 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes! Thank you 👍. I look forward to placing order for tool. 3D print 👣 support

  • @jimsego
    @jimsego Рік тому +2

    Brilliant! Thanks for posting.

  • @familieverhoeve7127
    @familieverhoeve7127 Місяць тому

    You are a genius, making the tool ! Is there one available for the BMW/MINI with the N14 /N18 enigine?

  • @ThePsychCenterEdgewater
    @ThePsychCenterEdgewater Рік тому +1

    I have to change my valve stem seals on my 2012 Mini Cooper S countryman. Will the rope method work?

  • @happyman87
    @happyman87 Місяць тому

    I am interested in the tooling you made for the valve. How can one order one and how much does it cost?

  • @josevaldoduartevidal1736
    @josevaldoduartevidal1736 Рік тому +1

    Comprei suas ferramentas para trocar os retentores de válvula, parabéns, belo trabalho , valeu cada centavo

  • @tonykollar6870
    @tonykollar6870 Рік тому

    Can you bend accidentaly exhaust valves as you rotate crankshaft? As I can see camshaft still there ...as some of exhaust vale can be opend ?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  11 місяців тому

      Since the camshaft is not connected to the crankshaft, it is rotated in a way that the valves are opened only a little, not enough to contact the pistons. Pistons also have valve reliefs.

  • @raulakh123
    @raulakh123 3 місяці тому

    how to determine the exhaust valve vs intake valves? Thanks

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  3 місяці тому

      @@raulakh123 exhaust valves have smaller surface area (smaller OD)

  • @aleksanderrosa9543
    @aleksanderrosa9543 Місяць тому

    When trying to tune the ECU in Audi 2.0TFSI CYMC 2019 I get the error "Pressure too high in cylinder 3" and the engine shuts down after that "Misfiring" - this protects the cylinder and turns it off.
    Do you have any idea what it could be? I can send photos from the endoscope of this cylinder

  • @bigdeal87
    @bigdeal87 7 місяців тому

    What about the camshaft rings near to the vanos, should they be replaced? Thanks

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  7 місяців тому

      I never replaced one. They usualy don't wear out unless something goes horribly wrong (metal or bearing material in the oil).

  • @mrmeowcomeshome1300
    @mrmeowcomeshome1300 2 місяці тому

    How much can you turn an engine counterclockwise (to release rope) without creating damage to engine?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  2 місяці тому +1

      Danger to the engine primarily comes from breaking of the plastic slide rail due to chain bundling at the bottom. If you keep the chain tight against the main sprocket while rotating the engine, then you won't damage anything.

    • @mrmeowcomeshome1300
      @mrmeowcomeshome1300 2 місяці тому

      @@BimmerZen Thank you

  • @shinymetalobjects
    @shinymetalobjects 3 місяці тому

    When doing my job, I need to zip tie the timing chain to the cam gears to keep timing (as well as ensure the chain stays taught on bottom gear) - so in that case, I cannot turn engine - is the rope method still usable??

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  3 місяці тому

      If you are working on a BMW N40/N42/N45/N46/N43 you have to use the timing tools to set the timing, so there is no point in ziptieing the VANOS units.. I can not say for other engines but in principle you have to be able to rotate the crankshaft to compress the rope against the valves.

  • @laurencentema51
    @laurencentema51 10 місяців тому

    What is the name of the component that connects with two bolts just outside the cylinder head next to the exhaust cam

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  10 місяців тому

      Vacuum pump for the break booster

  • @Niko31101996
    @Niko31101996 Рік тому

    Also the50skid uses this method with his M54, Great job! ✌️

  • @josevaldoduartevidal1736
    @josevaldoduartevidal1736 Рік тому

    Bummer è Possivel por o câmbio manual da 120i 2007 na bmw 130i 2008 ?

  • @alangoodwin2793
    @alangoodwin2793 9 місяців тому

    Hi how do you rotate the engine with the other cam in place

    • @MateuszCHUDY
      @MateuszCHUDY 6 місяців тому

      There was no timing chain so cam was not moving.

  • @johannesmasekana9968
    @johannesmasekana9968 Рік тому

    I need that special tool how can I get them

  • @netmanpredo5310
    @netmanpredo5310 2 місяці тому

    good job mate , ty for share your this video , ty ty ty so much

  • @man-e4g637
    @man-e4g637 Рік тому

    Leakdown tester works well

  • @ensonlwesya4879
    @ensonlwesya4879 5 місяців тому

    How much compressed air do you have to use, as opposed to using the rope? And what are the dangers of using too much air in the cylinder head? Especially if its DIY job.

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  5 місяців тому

      1 Bar should be enough. Dangers of too much pressure is that the crankshaft must be secured against accidental rotation under pressure.

  • @iissac22
    @iissac22 11 місяців тому

    I am doing the vavle stems on mini n18. DO you make a similar tool for that car?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  11 місяців тому

      I didn't work on a N18 yet, so unfortunately no:(

    • @רחליאלמקייס-ל8ל
      @רחליאלמקייס-ל8ל 9 місяців тому

      @@BimmerZen I THINK IT WILL WORK ON MINI , the head lock same

  • @bowjensen9994
    @bowjensen9994 11 місяців тому

    I'm really liking the rope method! I'm assuming, once again, the 70cm thing is specific to that motor.

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  11 місяців тому

      It's just the length that worked well for me for the diameter of the rope... It should work the same for any 500 ml per cylinder engine.

  • @RichardMarshall-hc1ho
    @RichardMarshall-hc1ho 9 місяців тому

    Hi video's have been very helpful thanks, do you make a valve seal remoral tool for the N43 engine ?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  9 місяців тому

      Yes I do: bimmerzen.com/store

  • @frankherrera4024
    @frankherrera4024 6 місяців тому

    Hi, will your tool work on a 2012 4 cyl 2.4L eco tech eng? How much are you asking?

  • @ricardass3266
    @ricardass3266 Рік тому

    Hey. May i ask a question of help? :s My chain tensioner broke of in engine. Did the whole repair with my own hands by your 2 part tutorial (perfect instruction, bow down), assembled all back together with perfect timing, started up nicely after few tries. Rode the car for 2 days. In the 3 day it died. tryed to start. and beneath the engine bay withing seconds accumulated HUGE oil puddle. even saw two ~1mm running (not dripping) oil streams. A lot of oil seemed to be from oil filter housing. dissambled it. found that in oil cooler housing, intake hole end was completely clogged with leftover tensioner plastic pieces.... cleaned it (filter was clean). Cleaned everything and Installed new 2 gaskets with filter just to be sure. Tried to start the engine again... and... engine streamed out oil in streams again..... even through the oil filter housing again! (nothing unexpected - the weakest Nm place for oil system)... But i understand that the engine clogged with debris somewhere else also. but where? oil pick up filter for sure needs to be checked. but maybe you would suggest any other idea also? Thank you very much for your time spent on random strangers cry of despair.
    keep on good tutorials. Subscriber

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hear that:( I will assume that the oil cooler is now cleaned up and not blocked... You will have to remove the oil pan and clean the oil pickup screen. You will also want to remove and inspect the oil pressure regulator valve. It could be damaged or clogged with plastic debris and that could cause the oil pressure being to high. Another - but worse - cause could be that some of the debris got past the filter housing and in to the oil lines inside the engine block and cylinder head... the your only reasonable option is to pull the engine, disassemble it and clean it...😬

    • @ricardass3266
      @ricardass3266 Рік тому

      @@BimmerZen thankyou for your advice :) it realy helps with not giving up. inform you here when will do the work!

    • @ricardass3266
      @ricardass3266 Рік тому

      @BimmerZen Hey. Back with an update. So yeah, removed oil pan, checked oil pickup screen - clean. Then opened oil pressure regulator valve - full of plastic pieces. Inserted pressurised air into the oil filter housing 2 side holes (not the middle one) and removed the debris. Putted all back together. Started the engine with ease. 10min worked perfectly, but i didnt revved it. As soon as i revved it to 5k+ rpm - oil spitted freely from oil filter housing cooler again... So either engine pushed new debris into oil pressure valve again from the corners of the oil pump's housing (i hope) either oil lines in block from the intake side...? But then it would showed up quickly in idle - it would be problem for engine to work even in low rpm if there were clogged before this inspection, as i only inspected bottom. ://
      Another question came up - may the oil seperator needs to be checked? which is under the intake manifold. As It has springs and bedding for debry tai lay down.
      hope this experience finds usefull to anyone reading.

    • @underourrock
      @underourrock Рік тому

      You used 2 gaskets at the same time? That's not a good idea.

    • @ricardass3266
      @ricardass3266 Рік тому

      @@underourrock No... If you havent seen, Oil Filter Housing has 2 gaskets. Horizontal ant Vertical

  • @intcpr6327
    @intcpr6327 Рік тому

    hello! how many cm must go inside?

  • @jayvvie
    @jayvvie 7 місяців тому

    Does your tools work on a mini n18 engin?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  7 місяців тому

      No, but I'll make one if I get my hands on a Mini N18 engine:)

  • @josealonso7190
    @josealonso7190 Рік тому

    Can you send me the link for purchasing that spring compressing tool?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      Sure, just check the description.

  • @MrBojangles901
    @MrBojangles901 9 місяців тому

    Considering whether to use the rope method or compressor method. Rope feels safer since nothing can go wrong except... like several commentors wrote the rope got stuck in the cylinder. I will think that using the thickest nylon rope possible and burn the ends should be idiot proof?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  9 місяців тому +1

      It's safer to use compressed air (piston in TDC). I can't say if bigger rope is better... Maybe smaller OD rope (6mm) would be better since you can still pull a small knot through the sparkplug hole.

    • @MrBojangles901
      @MrBojangles901 9 місяців тому

      @@BimmerZen
      Thank you for answering.
      I thought about it and will do the compressed air at a later stage.
      For now I just want my engine to stop rattling.
      I noticed that I could move the inlet cam 2-3 mm while my timing tools are inserted and the exhaust cam around 1 mm. I forced the tool at an earlier stage and definitely bent it slightly.
      I ordered a new timing tool and hope it will stop the rattling. I'm already on my third set of VANOS gears and they are all rattling so I'm starting to think it's not the gear, lol.

  • @bowjensen9994
    @bowjensen9994 11 місяців тому

    The tool you printed only works for that engine, correct? Same with the keeper tool, right?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  11 місяців тому

      The tool in the video works for N42 and N46 only. I also have a N40/N45 version and I am currently developing a version for the N43.

  • @djcase1116
    @djcase1116 Рік тому +5

    USE THICK ROPE! I once got the rope stuck in a knot inside the cylinder and had to take the head off to cut the knot off...

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      I guess thicker rope would really be better for that.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Рік тому

      You can also soften most ropes with some chemicals, put oil in or burn them to ashes to get them back out..

    • @djcase1116
      @djcase1116 Рік тому +1

      @@rkan2 Where were you 2 years ago? That would have helped. Instead I scraped the n46 and swapped to m54. Easier then working on the 4 cylinder lol

    • @mattymuso2108
      @mattymuso2108 Рік тому +1

      Same here mate, I used the 8mm nylon rope like he said and now it's stuck in the cylinder. I didn't see this comment. @BimmerZen PLEASE update this and put a note to say you need to use thick rope. Thank you

    • @djcase1116
      @djcase1116 Рік тому

      @@mattymuso2108 Been there done that. Like the other guy said maybe research what chemicals dislove nylon. I wouldn't burn it as nylon will clump into a weird plastic. Hopefully you won't have to take the head off...Best of luck.

  • @derekshane8786
    @derekshane8786 Рік тому

    Would this tool happen to fit a mini n18 engine?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      Will not fit, im planning to develop tools for more bmw engine families...

  • @andriusst.3572
    @andriusst.3572 Рік тому

    Hello, where can I find and buy a special valve? Thank you

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      Not sure what you mean with "special valve"... Perhaps you mean the 3D printed valve spring compressor tool? Links are in the description: bimmerzen.com/store

  • @fabianoliver3939
    @fabianoliver3939 Рік тому

    congratulations!, excelent video, thanks!

  • @GaryPace-qt3mo
    @GaryPace-qt3mo 9 місяців тому

    Can I buy the keeper tool

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  9 місяців тому

      Contact me via my channel email.

    • @GaryPace-qt3mo
      @GaryPace-qt3mo 9 місяців тому

      Thanks for your response. I got the info i requested from comments posted by others

  • @dorindo5517
    @dorindo5517 Рік тому

    What color should be the seals for the exhaust and what color for intake anyone knows?

    • @xavierramirez1911
      @xavierramirez1911 4 місяці тому

      in most cases they should be the same color but some brands, like supertech, have blue for exhaust and brown for intake

  • @PaulKrueger-i5i
    @PaulKrueger-i5i Рік тому

    What is the size, type and length of rope?

  • @Alvarezabe1
    @Alvarezabe1 8 місяців тому

    Will this tool work with any Vehicle American made Ford or Chevrolet?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  8 місяців тому

      No. Only for engines specified on my website.

  • @emmanueloseiaboagye9554
    @emmanueloseiaboagye9554 7 місяців тому

    Excellent work

  • @mrmorizofan7001
    @mrmorizofan7001 Рік тому

    nice video. btw you did turn the crank counterclockwise when removing the rope.
    are your spring tension tools compatible for other marques or just for BMW?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      Yes, I did rotate the crank counter clockwise, but I made sure that the chain is tight against the lower sprocket. This 3d printed tool will only fit the BMW N42/N46 engine and I also have designs for N40/N45 and N43. It will not work on other engines.

  • @wilfredoriverajr9147
    @wilfredoriverajr9147 3 місяці тому

    Interested in tool

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  3 місяці тому

      Available here: bimmerzen.com/store

  • @markanthonydelacruz1198
    @markanthonydelacruz1198 Рік тому +1

    That tool seems more convenient to use compared to universal one. Do you ship to Australia? I like your videos. Very informative.

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      sure.

    • @markanthonydelacruz1198
      @markanthonydelacruz1198 Рік тому

      thanks. ordering now.

    • @markanthonydelacruz1198
      @markanthonydelacruz1198 Рік тому

      Hi, using the rope method, can the pulley be rotated with the engine in the car?

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      @@markanthonydelacruz1198 not sure what you mean... when the rope is removed you can rotate the crankshaft. Make sure that the car is in neutral gear and that you keep the chain tight against the bottom sprocket to prevent breaking the chain rail.

  • @colsonrichardson2207
    @colsonrichardson2207 Рік тому

    Hello mate hope you can help
    I got pressure build (somewhere) and it's releasing the pressure like a blow off valve. Sounds sick but it's not cool coming from a N/A engine lol.. any tips or where to check. I've looked at the intake side of the engine as where the sound is coming from. all Is good tho but do you have any possible suggestions.
    Thanks in advance keep up the videos man love watching them haha very informative

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      I would suspect CVV separator/hoses. Do a vacuum leak test if you can.

  • @kamilgheraba4214
    @kamilgheraba4214 Рік тому

    man You are god, i love Your metods :D

  • @rometguy1091
    @rometguy1091 Рік тому

    Pozdrav sem gledal ze vec tvojih videov in vidim da se spoznas na te n42 ter n46 motorje zato imam vprasanje. Sam sem kupil tudi bmw e46 318i z n42 pa imam tezavo da ko pospesujem nad 2 tisoc obratov se cujejo neki cudni zvoki in sem skoro sto procenten da jih proizvaja valvetronic nisem pa siguren mi lahko pomagas? Hvala v naprej sem se subscribal😊

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      Hej, kontaktiraj me na bimmerzenchannel@gmail.com, bova pogledala:)

    • @rometguy1091
      @rometguy1091 Рік тому

      @@BimmerZen okej bom hvala ti

  • @shafeeemamdee6638
    @shafeeemamdee6638 10 місяців тому

    Great video !!!

  • @mattymuso2108
    @mattymuso2108 Рік тому

    BEWARE!! I tried this on an '85 Pajero and now the rope is stuck inside the cylinder. I can rotate the engine 180 deg in either direction and then it seizes at each point. Looks like the head's going to come off...

  • @longrodlseries
    @longrodlseries Рік тому

    Cool vid and tools you made

  • @jahbriz2483
    @jahbriz2483 8 місяців тому

    Make a Tool for a 1zzfe and ok I'll buy the tool

  • @mbt28
    @mbt28 Рік тому

    Hello
    Do I need a timing tool for this? In the first video there was a timing tool requirement in the description.

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому +1

      Yes, to get to this point and to retime the engine after this procedure, you will need the timing tools.

  • @MM-kk8uh
    @MM-kk8uh 5 місяців тому

    There should be no reason to drop the piston all the way to the bottom, that just means more rope to use and more risk of it getting stuck just use something to hold the pressure once you compress the rope if you're worried the piston might drop and take the valve with it.

  • @andriusst.3572
    @andriusst.3572 Рік тому

    This is what I wanted, great, thank you, I am interested in n46 and n13.

    • @BimmerZen
      @BimmerZen  Рік тому

      I only have this tool for N42/N46 engine.

  • @kamilrc7073
    @kamilrc7073 Рік тому

    I need this tool but 21 euro is expensiv

    • @Jakob_D
      @Jakob_D Рік тому

      But it is worth every cent, believe me. I started to replace the seals with universal tool for about 30-40 Euros, but it was so difficult to handle it alone, pressing against the spring with one hand and trying to place the keeper with the other hand... It takes much time... I finished only the first cylinder, it driven me crazy.
      Then I bought this tool and finished the rest much much faster and relaxed. I don't want to know how it went, if I did the last valves of 4th cylinder with universal tool...

    • @josevaldoduartevidal1736
      @josevaldoduartevidal1736 Рік тому

      Amigo não é caro , eu passei uma semana fazendo as duas ferramentas de ferro para comprimir as molas , só não comprei as do bimmer zen , devido à distância , creio que o frete ficaria caro

  • @hobbyincltdhobbies873
    @hobbyincltdhobbies873 4 місяці тому

    Best... Simple..

  • @nickd.7267
    @nickd.7267 4 місяці тому

    After from what everyone is saying about the rope getting knotted I am NOT going to use rope

  • @aaronbligh3619
    @aaronbligh3619 Рік тому

    genius 👌