Failing in Painting? 🎨 Here's Some Perspective...

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  • @Penciledbykay
    @Penciledbykay 4 роки тому +6

    2019 my goal was to start learning watercolors. I kept them all in container in the order I did them. In August I felt I wasn't improving at all, and I went back to my comfort zone (pencils). Now, 2020 I was looking back at those paintings and was really surprised to see I actually HAD been improving.
    I'm glad you made this video. As artists we fail constantly, but it's the need to create that keeps us going. I think what a lot of people stumble on, is that it's hard(er) to see improvement when constantly switching materials (paper kinds, paint brands) and subject matter. If you switch constantly from fruit to landscapes to portraits you will see improvement more slowly than if you focused on one kind of subject for a week (or more). And now with constantly watching other artists on Instagram and UA-cam, you are only seeing a lot of other people's best works. Not the 1000 paintings they have they think are garbage! lol

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому +2

      Very very true!
      I think the number one thing here is... patience!
      It takes time to significantly improve.
      I'm currently interested in further improving my drawing skills, especially when it comes to anatomy - and it's still super hard, as it should be! (;

  • @louiselangerud
    @louiselangerud 4 роки тому +1

    Great video!
    Water coloring is so seductive. I know of nothing else I can fail at over and over and still want to do it again.

  • @boubella11
    @boubella11 4 роки тому +10

    Thank you! “You will fail most of the time....”. I love hearing this because failing doesn’t stop me from going on and having fun. I just saw that Picasso painted 50,000 paintings but only 100 have been recognized as “good” or “valuable”. He was not considered a failure. You have to paint with that next new vision in mind and go back to the old failures when you have a vision of how to rescue.

    • @chels2145
      @chels2145 4 роки тому

      There's many fascinating facts about these famous artists! Knowing this helps 😁

  • @johnrestucci8269
    @johnrestucci8269 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Liron ! This is the most useful and above all practical video of all the other ones you have posted !
    because of the fact that you encourage and strive to push the watercolorist not to give in to frustration
    and failure ! Many other times I have pushed watercolor aside because I did not like the results I was getting , exactly like you said in the video .. But, I have bookmarked your video so that I can see it again to refresh the inspiration that you give us in order to keep going no matter what !
    Quantity over quality that is the secret ! , needless to say I was doing it the other way and I was defeating myself ! Thanks for that kick !

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому +1

      I'm so happy this helps John!
      Sounds like you're on the right track, keep me updated 😁
      And thank you for the kind words 😊🙏🏼

  • @simatk
    @simatk 4 роки тому +2

    Great video and advice. I love it when you say someone has to say it is ok to fail and not getting your painting right. Failures are always occasions to improve but we also need to hear we must get past the disappointment and see someone like you that encourage with a smile 😉

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому

      Exactly! That’s the spirit 😁👏

  • @kathsoulsby873
    @kathsoulsby873 4 роки тому +8

    Perfect timing for this video Liron! I had been thinking of taking a break from watercolours as I felt like I was not moving forward ... after watching this I went back to look at some of my old work and was pleasantly surprised to see I actually had improved! Failures as you say are all,part of the process...Thanks!

  • @kathleenbarnett1084
    @kathleenbarnett1084 4 роки тому

    Because of your positive encouragement I don't freak out if I screw up. I try to think it out - what can do better next time.

  • @rachelm7525
    @rachelm7525 4 роки тому

    You are so right, you can't worry about failure, you have to be free if you want to produce freer work! Excellent advice 🙂

  • @montygemma
    @montygemma 4 роки тому

    Very good advice that hits home with me. I am an oil painter, been to art school and got a masters degree and have I think become very competent at that. But over the years I have been trying and mostly failing with watercolour and it's because of the reason said here.
    I've learnt though not to worry about getting colour spot on in watercolour and concentrating more on tone, realising watercolour is a totally different animal from oil, and if a painting is starting to look like a failure put it away and have a look at it next day. NEVER try to adjust it when frustrated you'll just overwork it. These realisations have improved my work quite a bit.

  • @conniehenricksen9533
    @conniehenricksen9533 4 роки тому +1

    Luton I wanted to tell you I watch all you r videos and you are done to earth and give so much encouragement. THANK You I love what you do( Great),! You are a great teacher and Artist!

  • @sallywright5503
    @sallywright5503 4 роки тому

    Rarely do my paintings become my vision. I have learned from you not to give up and sometimes I’m actually pleasantly surprised by the results. That said, I certainly relate to a lot that you talked about here. I haven’t given up,,, but I do need to move away from the torture,,, you are right,,, torturing oneself adds no value to the person or the process.
    Thank you again for being spot on with your analysis.

  • @jimmykao3355
    @jimmykao3355 4 роки тому

    This was a very encouraging and timely video. just yesterday, I had a horrible painting, totally missed the mark, and I have up, feeling very sad. This gives me hope. Thank you Liron.

  • @embaaj
    @embaaj 3 роки тому +1

    You are the best teacher. The painting is good. Especially the cabs!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  3 роки тому

      Thank you! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Funny how it's become one of my favorites 😂
      Plus it found a new home 😁

  • @sallyfinch540
    @sallyfinch540 4 роки тому

    I love your perspective and frame of mind. It is so good to hear your words of wisdom from your experience. We all can view the results of your perspective in each of your wonderful paintings and videos. What sets you apart from the crowd is explaining your thoughts behind your work as you create and reflect on your work.

  • @SpottedOtter7
    @SpottedOtter7 4 роки тому

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! I needed to (1) know other people had the experience of yes, loving the result but also being ...surprised? That the result wasn’t at all what they were going for and (2) that its totally OK when that happens. Thank you so much!

  • @thedevilseleven
    @thedevilseleven 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for advice. I am procrastinating about starting to paint with watercolor and I think this is the kick in the ass I need. Wish me luck. Thanks again

  • @margaretmartin6620
    @margaretmartin6620 4 роки тому

    You're right. Don't stress out and don't be a quitter. Painting is supposed to be fun, not misery! It's not the end of the world, because you will learn something every time anyway! Thanks, Liron! :)

  • @birgitblume7877
    @birgitblume7877 4 роки тому

    Great vid Liron! And I agree: As a beginner quantity = practice is super important!!!!

  • @tessa6307
    @tessa6307 4 роки тому +1

    I 100% agree with you when you talk about “sloppy practice.” While it may take more time to unlearn bad habits, the tedium of “correct practicing” may lead to not practicing at all. Enjoying the process is the surest way of improving in my experience.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому +1

      Exactly! You can always increase the accuracy and quality later, once you get rid of some of the initial fears (:
      And it's so true - once the process becomes enjoyable there's no way back! I feel like every painting process is a celebration!

  • @staceg2003
    @staceg2003 4 роки тому

    I am in this 'failure place' right now … I was at the point of giving my watercolor supplies away because I feel like nothing I attempt works out. Part of it is a lack of patience on my part, but part of it is setting out to do something, and completely failing to achieve it. I commented along these lines to my daughter - who went out and bought me, for a Christmas gift, the watercolor brushes I've been wanting to treat myself to, but thought I didn't deserve because my skill isn't 'there' yet.
    The funny thing is, I know the importance of failing forward - of working until you get it - I practice martial arts, and that is the basis of learning, especially coming into it later in life. For some reason, I have more difficulty applying this principle to my painting, so I am very happy to see that you are addressing this exact issue in this video!

  • @susanhunter8126
    @susanhunter8126 4 роки тому +1

    I did quit for many years because I didn’t like my works. But I realized how much I enjoyed painting its self. Now I’m learning more than I expected.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому +1

      Amazing! It's the switch (:
      Once it gets fun it's so much easier to learn!

  • @ngocthaodrawing
    @ngocthaodrawing 4 роки тому +1

    Love your words. So encouraging!

  • @jscook54
    @jscook54 4 роки тому +1

    I sometimes don’t have a vision and boy does it show! I keep going back and forth from your style and artist named Brienne Brown and the more realism painters I see in UK such as Geoff Kersey. I need to find myself. Love your videos and your art.

  • @conniehenricksen9533
    @conniehenricksen9533 4 роки тому

    You hit the nail on the head! You give me such encouragement!!! Thank You!

  • @jilllusey7001
    @jilllusey7001 4 роки тому

    Totally agree. After almost two years I have finally let go of trying to be perfect and just enjoy the process. You have been such a help and inspiration with that.

  • @johnrestucci8269
    @johnrestucci8269 4 роки тому

    Thanks Liron ! You just rescued me , I had lost a lot of motivation to paint because I was super slow in my paintings, no quantity !
    I will follow your advise religiously ! Don't know how to thank you !!

  • @melkerart1793
    @melkerart1793 4 роки тому

    Progress seems to come in little jumps, opposed to a steady gradual improvement. I often get frustrated but try to push through. You're right in saying that quantity is more important than quality. Gotta get some mileage on that brush!

  • @candysummer7646
    @candysummer7646 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome video although I needed to hear this years ago 😂😂😂 however back on track thanks to people like yourself doing amazing videos on UA-cam. Yes its pushing through and perseverance, I realised judging myself so harshly did not make me a better painter😊 rather it was focusing on what I did well and expanding that. Thanks for all the work you do 💖💖

  • @FigsArtsandCrafts
    @FigsArtsandCrafts 4 роки тому

    What I learned from you is to have fun (even if you mess up) because I will be painting another one.

  • @JHEN2219
    @JHEN2219 3 роки тому +1

    Thankful for the encouragement! AHHH...I definitely feel like I'm failing at watercolor! I'm so happy with my sketches, and I feel like I ruin them when I put in color! Everything looks over saturated and overworked! I want to keep going, but I don't know what I'm doing wrong so that I can see some improvement!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  3 роки тому

      I’m happy you found this encouraging 😁
      What I would suggest in your case is to disregard colors for a bit and focus on values. Start with lighter washes, and then put in darker shadows. Also try to recognize large areas of shadows rather than many small individual ones (this will vary depending on the reference of course).
      Use whatever color / saturation you want, but make the value the main actor here. Let me know how it goes (:

    • @JHEN2219
      @JHEN2219 3 роки тому

      @@LironYan Thank you so much for the tip! I liked your video where you talked about organizing your time with creative freedom versus learning / focusing on particular skills. I want to jump ahead with creativity but should probably devote more attention to particular practices, like values. =) Thanks again for providing some direction!

  • @sarahjaninedavis2159
    @sarahjaninedavis2159 4 роки тому

    Such good advice. I get so hung up on mistakes. It stops me painting sometimes and that’s just stupid when you think about it. Like I have to produce a masterpiece every time. That’s far too much pressure. You have a great attitude thank you for helping me see this

  • @livinginmexico
    @livinginmexico 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Liron, I have exactly that experience - I like the result on parts of my painting, and parts are just not what I was hoping for. I am going with improving my percentages now - not total perfection!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому

      EXACTLY! One step at a time, measurable results! (:
      And remember that others may like what you don't ^_^

  • @createwithwatercolor
    @createwithwatercolor 4 роки тому

    Perfect timing and a great advice Liron. I have been following you for a year or so. I must say your videos are educational as well as inspiring. Thanks for making me a part of your journey and for saying it's okay to fail.. 👍

  • @barbaragemin5117
    @barbaragemin5117 4 роки тому

    I appreciate your honesty SO much. " You're going to fail" I love that. My failures, after being so careful, put me in a filthy mood. LOL I really need to get about three sheets of ( small but good) paper, do my three sketches ( no trouble sketching) then let rip and try to learn by my mistakes.
    Thanks Liron, I needed a boost to my morale and a shake-up!!

  • @michaelterry3958
    @michaelterry3958 4 роки тому

    This is my first comment. I have been learning a lot from watching your videos. Way back in elementary school teacher gave us some water colors and paper and right there I hated water colors. Didn't start getting interested until years later looking at a Turner exhibit. Thank you

  • @chrishayman1747
    @chrishayman1747 4 роки тому

    Great advice as always. Thanks Liron

  • @angelasmith3986
    @angelasmith3986 4 роки тому

    Great reminder! Thank you for these tips! Your videos are excellent

  • @debv3284
    @debv3284 4 роки тому

    Thank you, thank you! As a frustrated beginner I really needed to hear this.

  • @jdub3853
    @jdub3853 4 роки тому +1

    This is vital commentary.. We all need to hear this.

  • @Angayasse
    @Angayasse 4 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU in capitals Liron. This was so needed. I have this issue all the time - I imagine something and it never ever becomes like that in the finished stuff and I dump many of my "works". I think I have a rate of 20 to 1 acceptable paintings :D

  • @noreenkellett3863
    @noreenkellett3863 4 роки тому

    Great advice as usual Liron

  • @watercolorhomie146
    @watercolorhomie146 4 роки тому

    Dude... You always know what to say... Sensei n maestro of art and life. Thank you for your words n wisdom my brother! 🤜💥🤛

  • @Shatril1
    @Shatril1 4 роки тому

    LOL I needed this right now. Thanks for your pep talk. Subscribed now.

  • @alvax2455
    @alvax2455 4 роки тому

    yes, I feel addressed!

  • @johnrestucci8269
    @johnrestucci8269 4 роки тому

    The thing is , watercolor has a mind of its own .... Never comes out exactly the way you want it
    You have a better chance of controling an oil painting, but watercolor has a mind of its own , and that's the
    Beauty of it ! You never know what you're gonna get ! The nature of the beast ! ( I freeking love it )

  • @suzannahay26
    @suzannahay26 4 роки тому

    No time to comment, I'm going to hurry off and have another go at a painting. Thanks Liron!

  • @windrider5845
    @windrider5845 4 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️ just what I needed to hear! Thank you! LOVE the painting!

  • @RayFineArt
    @RayFineArt 4 роки тому

    Awesome Liron matey, this is one of your finest pieces of advice you have given so far, great video 👍👍👍

  • @marthastrogen9001
    @marthastrogen9001 4 роки тому

    Great advice! Love your videos... thinking about taking your online course. I’m between courses now because it’s the Winter break at my community college. Really like your enthusiasm 😊Martha

  • @lindaehlert8428
    @lindaehlert8428 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the 'inspirational' video... very encouraging! -- Keep these great videos coming! (I really loved your video about getting the 'glow' in watercolour painting!... very 'valuable'!)

  • @jessicamitchell4985
    @jessicamitchell4985 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @michaellewis7666
    @michaellewis7666 4 роки тому

    Thank you! I needed to hear this.

  • @malcallm
    @malcallm 4 роки тому

    Very helpful and inspiring. Thanks!

  • @conniehenricksen9533
    @conniehenricksen9533 4 роки тому +1

    I needed this video today as I am stuck painting today! I have been painting watercolors for 7 years . I have been going to Art classes off and on during that time with 2 Art teachers ( have taken time off for winter months. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Everyone says I have a gift.

  • @gendoikari6062
    @gendoikari6062 4 роки тому

    This is very true....I've learned to just close my eyes and start painting...
    only trouble is, when somebody approaches me to 'explain to them'
    how I do what I do..then all hell breaks loose, I loose my concentration
    and everything becomes a big mess...I have a failure communicating
    to people what I do, because I myself cannot explain to myself what or how..
    and I don't mean to be mean...because I'm not...but I'm not a good teacher!

  • @zerocalvin
    @zerocalvin 4 роки тому +1

    I always feel like failing whenever I seen some watercolor artist produce an artwork in 10-20 mins but look 1000 times better than what I produce with 4 hours.. but again I reminded myself those people probably have a master degree in art and at least 10-30 years of painting experience while I just started 9 months ago..

  • @HMC2133
    @HMC2133 4 роки тому

    Oh! Nice to hear! I often go through the "failure and mourning stage" right after fishing some paintings. 🤣 I am not a beginner, and I dont stop bc of it. I feel I need to work on quality rather than quantity though. I need to actually focus on improving and stop making the same mistakes repeatedly. Btw, what is the mop brush you were using for this? What size is it? ^ ^

  • @plumsystar
    @plumsystar 4 роки тому

    Hi Liron,
    Well said. I am starting to realize that not everything is perfect and you need to purge some practice pieces ( tries) and keep but for a little bit the ones that look good to you. Or else like me I look like a hoarder at the moment.

  • @annettefournier9655
    @annettefournier9655 4 роки тому

    Ha, thanks Liron. I failed my vision two hours ago but really like how it came out. I think my vision is flawed a lot of the time. Happy accidents as he used to say. 😎

  • @pjs3514
    @pjs3514 4 роки тому

    Great advice. I, like others, feel defeated before I even pick up my paintbrush. By the way, I like your painting 👍

  • @chels2145
    @chels2145 4 роки тому

    I started watercolors about 3 months ago and truly feel like I'm getting better however, I do get discourage but continue because I love the challenge. Thanks for this! I also would like to know (generally) how long it takes for someone to become "good" if they paint every day? Also, is there a place where artist critique work? I'd like to get feedback on my work 😁 thank you!!!!

  • @bettebelanger9490
    @bettebelanger9490 4 роки тому

    Thank you. Have been struggling with this. My big issue now is taking a sketch I did in the summer and turning it into a painting. I feel like the inspiration is gone, less connected. Can you offer advice and tips to overcome this please. thanks

  • @msashlynnleona9442
    @msashlynnleona9442 4 роки тому

    Just keep swimming!
    -Dory

  • @madhursrivastav
    @madhursrivastav 4 роки тому

    I attended your course on Udemy . I had been painting since ( for 4 months now) I am feeling that I am not improving.... most of the Colors get muddy...

  • @nancymelching7535
    @nancymelching7535 4 роки тому

    I fail way more than I succeed. It can be discouraging but nice to know I’m not alone.

  • @margaretmartin6620
    @margaretmartin6620 4 роки тому

    By the way, love the face in the beginning of the video! :D

  • @TheLeahsKitchen
    @TheLeahsKitchen 4 роки тому

    When I start to nitpick at my paintings, I tell myself that this is not a test - no one will ever see my reference and know that it's not the same, or that I used artistic license, or just messed it up. I like to take risks with painting, otherwise it becomes boring, so I have to learn to throw out perfection

  • @bigboyanimation3799
    @bigboyanimation3799 4 роки тому

    Me i stoped using water color and i use gouache i am better in gouache then watercolor

  • @punkamatico83
    @punkamatico83 4 роки тому

    I'm staring at my white unblemished paper. If I start painting on it I will ruin it. What to do?

    • @paulah317
      @paulah317 4 роки тому +1

      Paint a failed painting. The paper won't know.

  • @margretmartin7572
    @margretmartin7572 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this post-truly appreciate it. I feel like I’m failing much of the time as I can’t seem to get on paper what I see in my head or reference photo. Thankfully I’m enjoying and not giving up in this journey. I don’t paint as often as I should and while I dislike New Years resolutions (never an able to keep them) I’m so hoping to paint / practice more in 2020. Love your videos and paintings! Happy holidays!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much Margret! ^_^
      Being able to put things to paper, that we see in our mind's eye - is a HUGE skill that takes time to accomplish, and lots of searching and experimentation.
      Sounds like you are definitely on the right track! Way to go!
      Very happy I could help!

  • @larrymarshall9454
    @larrymarshall9454 4 роки тому

    Hmm...I understand what you're saying but I'm a person who believes that internal dialog affects greatly how we see ourselves and our progress. To start with "I will fail" doesn't seem be a positive message to give myself. Rather, I approach art by saying "Every sketch/painting I do is valuable experience towards my goals." All the stuff about success and failure is for others to judge, not for me to worry about.

  • @rashone2879
    @rashone2879 4 роки тому

    I consistently fail in water color. I give up, tell myself, I have no talent for this...but then I start up again, fail again...I don't know how you can judge whether or not your painting works. I am highly critical and live in an area of the country that has no art stores or artists' groups. I'm on my own, and I think nothing I do is good. It's depressing because I have a strong desire to make art. I do very well at drawing, have had a piece in a national exhibit. But painting..I struggle.

  • @lennierichardson1387
    @lennierichardson1387 4 роки тому +2

    My new motto:
    Pick up that brush and FAIL!!

  • @conniehenricksen9533
    @conniehenricksen9533 4 роки тому +1

    Liron sorry!!!!

  • @t2terri
    @t2terri 4 роки тому

    I have been painting for a while... use to be detail oriented, not to point of photo realism...... Now I am trying to reinvent myself..... oh how I torture myself trying to loosen up . I make disasters by tryin to pain quickly what I see- ending up becoming very heavy too quickly.... nothing left to do , no where to go , looks like gouache painting. I’m watching your videos over and over again..... trying to capture he lightness- essence of watercolor......! Keep trying🤨

  • @windrider5845
    @windrider5845 4 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️ just what I needed to hear! Thank you! LOVE the painting!