I bet it will be electric car level expensive, hardly available outside the UK, range will be like 60 miles, charging speed laughable from the “laptop style” connection, you will have to ride with your backpack and helmets won’t be sold by the company.
@@aqema So it will be a thru and thru British product and everyone will be wondering, why it is not selling. Well, if they at least have a 40-50% margin, they might make same money with fewer sold units. Btw, it will be more like 60km then 60mi range. Both batteries together only have 1,5kWh. To get to 60mph and hold it, you need about 6kWh on the flat.
@@FFVoyager Sorry, but how is it an improvement when you scrap luggage space, a passenger seat, cut the range to single digits on full speed, install an easy to vandalize belt instead of a hub motor and double the price?
@@FFVoyager Oh they will sell some, for sure. But a success? No, that would mean that they make money and that will not happen. More likely they ask for money from the government to keep people employed. Blat end disregard for the market should not be honored. Hand build limited edition for this "super bike" with 14kWp for lets say 30000pounds a pop at 99 units build would be a solution. But normal Electroheads should not be bothered. Then you can present it as such. That´s ok. But to report on a 10000pound "game changer" that is not even capable to get your Tesco shopping? Nah
Things are looking in the right direction. Would be nice to see more varied and innovative alternatives like these. Plus a side car or a utility 3 wheeler with a flat bed wouldn't hurt. Honestly that's where the trend ought to be
a perfect blend between superbike performance and urban practicality??? 14 kw peak power and no storage... I'd say it is just as impractical and expensive as a superbike
If you like the full range you need 2 batteries and the fast charger. Cracking the 10000 barrier. For a city scooter. Where do you put your shopping? There might be a reason why scooters look like they do, anywhere in the world.
What is the battery range? I've got a seat mo 125 and it does around 80 miles on a single charge only problem is if the battery goes wrong it has to be sent to Spain for repairs or replacement
Was thinking the same, where's the practicality of helmet storage or putting your bit of shopping in. And yes it's a pre-production bike but some suggestions on range and charge times would be good.
This won't give you 50 miles, unless you do the whole journey at under 25mph. You will be maybe get 30 miles out of 1.5 KWh of battery in normal riding conditions, half that in cold weather.
@@paulnewman2000 to be clear, you’re claiming you can’t get an electric 2-wheeler for less than £8k with a range of 50m? Have you always been this clueless?
@@fredbloggs5902 I'm referring to the model in the review that won't get you 50 miles and costs £8K, of course there are plenty of electric bikes starting from around £2K with a 50 miles range or better.
Compared to a Silence SO1 / SEAT Mo the equal factors are : price is roughly the same. Top speed is about the same. Has same three driving modes. pros are; looks cool, ABS, charging speed, charges much faster. The cons are: battery capacity 2.8 kWh in total, only half of SO1's 5.6 kWh, storage nil, including so far as I can see, for the second battery, compared to the Silence's generous seat bucket where you can fit 2 full face helmets, much less weather protection. Essentially, you are paying 3.5 - 4K just so you don't look like a boring scooter, and also foregoing a lot of the utility that comes with a scooter. The main reason that electric bikes are so much more expensive is the cost of the battery packs. If you're not even getting that, its not good value.
not quite. Batterie is 1,5kWh for two (790Wh one) The silence has the same top speed, yes, but, as you say, 5,6kWh. Not only that, that battery got even a 230V converter build in. And I have no problem with regen and normal speed here in Barcelona to get 100mi range and more. And it costs half! Well, nearly. And where do you put a top case? Or your helmet? On the Silence you can bring a passenger, very comfortable, that's 2 helmets. And your shopping. And your leather jacket. No problem with the Silence. Here? It´s a joke.
@@chrisspain Yes, you are right, I mis-read the i300 spec. So the i300 is even worse than I thought, in the real world you would struggle to achieve 30 miles of range. On the other hand, I now see that both i300 batteries fit under the floor. I used to have a Lexmoto Impulse, which had a single battery capacity of 1.44 kWh, very similar capacity to the i300, and I needed 2 batteries to manage a commute from the suburbs into London. In cold weather, that would go from 100 - 16% capacity in 16 miles, with a top speed limited to 43 mph. The SEAT Mo has been a fantastic upgrade, being able to do 50 - 60mile journeys on one charge. Purchase price for the Mo was £6000 with all the extras, about the same as a mid range i300. SEAT dealers are now marking down last years Mo stock to as low as £4000, e.g. ex demo 22 plate manufactured in 2021 still with less than 100 miles on the clock, like you say about half of the cost of a top range i300. But would just point out that while the Silence battery includes an internal charger and heater, the inverter (to get 230 vac back out) is not built in - you have to buy it as an optional extra.
A battery that size (6kg) gives you about 1,5kWh. so 2 are 3kWh. if they are high tech batteries 4kWh at 1000pound a piece. that would give you a range at 60mph of around 18mi. under 10mi with one battery, a bit more at slower speed. No mention of regen. For the 5500 pounds of estimated price (with one battery) not enough.
Looks cool. But there's a reason the current design is the most dominant and has been for ages - storage. It's just very practical. Here by looking cool we take away the practicality.
I love these Electric 2wheelers, but . . . . It still looks silly and childish, totally not a motorbike. Riding with your knees closed like that, it is like you need to pee, or ride with a skirt . . . .
1:38 that's pretty good. isn't the best sportbike like 3 seconds 0-60? and doesn't that sportbike have like 150kw power? and this gets so close with 14kw peak? now i need to see one with upgraded motor controller 😀
On there website they start at 6500 pounds with one battery and standard charger. With 2 batteries and fast charger the cheapest option runs around 7300. With a few extras and the mentioned upcycled Materials and carbon parts you get to over 10000 pounds. Superbike vibes, indeed.
I don’t see how it’s only 54 newton meters of torque? My 500 watt KBO breeze e bike is 60 newton meters? I feel like the claims of torque for most e bikes is very ambiguous?
The admiration of a beauty it is. Like I always say, "haterz always gone hate". It's not the fact that everyone is leaving a bad review it's the fact that it's a awesome bike and they kant have it now. 😅🤣🤣🤷 I would love to try a sample of the product to prove NY theory correct.
@@chrisspain I think all motorised bicycle design is a dead end - and t has been for more than 40 years. But at least this isn't pretending to be some historic throwback. (I'd rather buy a used CE-04 though)
For what? You are not going anywhere with that mini battery and when you arrive you can´t even store your helmet. The designer obviously does not ever ride a city scooter.
Just watched this and thought what a load of bollocks; it looks little different from other scooters, the interchangeable battery pack is not a new idea, 0-60 in 5.5 secs isn't that fast...there is nothing here that screams innovation
Water was the first end of the world, fire is to be the next. Just imagine when the world is full of batteries that once alight, are impossible to put out🤔
Its ugly, its electric, you will definitely not hear it coming, its boring, no storage, charging time is probably 2-3hrs no one asked for this, no storage, sits way too low, people just get on combustion engines, its the only thing that really and truly works
I'm sure it's a very good electric scooter BUT stop with the references to Superbikes it's nothing like in looks, style, riding postion etc etc oh and 14 KW really what's that in BHP ?? SUPERBIKE performance ?? Really come on get real.
Meh, nothing "Sporty or Agressive" about it. It's still a step through scooter, so you sit on it like a girl. The only good I see out of this is the ability to remove/replace and recharge the batteries. Also, thise are not "Mo-Peds", they are scooters. A Mo-Ped, short for Motorized Pedal Bike, meaning it is a bicycle that has pedals thst are used to get the bike moving and the internal combustion engine operating, or the bike can be pedaled if you want silence/zero exhaust or are out of gas.
Expensive virtue signalling waste of money and it's not "sustainable" because electricity has to be produced from the conventional grid and all large batteries have issues with hazardous materials and disposal. Furthermore it has ZERO luggage space unlike petrol scooters which can be incredibly frugal (up to 150 MPG) and which can be purchased for a fraction of this machine. EV makers just don't get it. Until they can get the price down to reasonable levels no-one except fools are going to buy them.
Just love these reviews that don’t give an estimated price, which means it’s gonna be expensive!
£5,800 for ‘entry level’, in reality more like £8,000.
£6495 on their website , I think that's an estimate though , too much for me anyway
Indeed there's far more options at that price that offer more power & style@@Supersyncopation
Ouch! no thanks
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@@Supersyncopationbuy an Ultra Bee and have more fun
No Price, no availability, no range, no charging speed, no space for luggage or even the helmet. Game changer? Hardly.
I bet it will be electric car level expensive, hardly available outside the UK, range will be like 60 miles, charging speed laughable from the “laptop style” connection, you will have to ride with your backpack and helmets won’t be sold by the company.
@@aqema So it will be a thru and thru British product and everyone will be wondering, why it is not selling. Well, if they at least have a 40-50% margin, they might make same money with fewer sold units.
Btw, it will be more like 60km then 60mi range. Both batteries together only have 1,5kWh. To get to 60mph and hold it, you need about 6kWh on the flat.
You just need to look at what's on the market to get an idea. It'll be £10k+, 60 mile range and 3+ hour charging per battery
Yeah, I’ll stick with my $2k 72v 30ah battery fat tire.
Not for america, uk Europe only.
£5500.00 with a max range if you are lucky of 50miles. No wonder you missed that bit out.
Love everything about this e-scooter, except the head light which I think should look meaner
Good to see Cole in front of the camera. Great segment.
there are far lass costly e-mopeds but i Do like this design a lot .
Theres a reasons tons of scooters look the same, it works.
Everything can be improved.
Time will tell if this is something that does that.
Yeah it's probably mostly because it allows for storage under the seat. This doesn't seem to have it.
@@FFVoyager Sorry, but how is it an improvement when you scrap luggage space, a passenger seat, cut the range to single digits on full speed, install an easy to vandalize belt instead of a hub motor and double the price?
@@chrisspain I don't think it is, but perhaps the sort of idiots who are happy to spend that sort of money on it won't care and it will be a success?
@@FFVoyager Oh they will sell some, for sure. But a success? No, that would mean that they make money and that will not happen. More likely they ask for money from the government to keep people employed. Blat end disregard for the market should not be honored. Hand build limited edition for this "super bike" with 14kWp for lets say 30000pounds a pop at 99 units build would be a solution. But normal Electroheads should not be bothered. Then you can present it as such. That´s ok. But to report on a 10000pound "game changer" that is not even capable to get your Tesco shopping? Nah
Things are looking in the right direction.
Would be nice to see more varied and innovative alternatives like these.
Plus a side car or a utility 3 wheeler with a flat bed wouldn't hurt. Honestly that's where the trend ought to be
Good to see Kol doing some real work for a change 😂
Oi! 🤪
a perfect blend between superbike performance and urban practicality??? 14 kw peak power and no storage... I'd say it is just as impractical and expensive as a superbike
I'm fairly certain those superbike foot pegs are for the pillion
Flipping great video, great cinematography!
Starts at 7490 euros and goes to 9490 euros. Ouch.
If you like the full range you need 2 batteries and the fast charger. Cracking the 10000 barrier. For a city scooter. Where do you put your shopping? There might be a reason why scooters look like they do, anywhere in the world.
I like the design but my only thing I don't like is the front circular light. Looks out of place and old...
What is the battery range? I've got a seat mo 125 and it does around 80 miles on a single charge only problem is if the battery goes wrong it has to be sent to Spain for repairs or replacement
Seven thousand pound. You joking 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Was thinking the same, where's the practicality of helmet storage or putting your bit of shopping in. And yes it's a pre-production bike but some suggestions on range and charge times would be good.
So a ‘review’ that doesn’t give price or range.
Doing a bit of research indicates (for the realistic model) a price of around £8k and a range of 50m.
This won't give you 50 miles, unless you do the whole journey at under 25mph. You will be maybe get 30 miles out of 1.5 KWh of battery in normal riding conditions, half that in cold weather.
@@paulnewman2000 to be clear, you’re claiming you can’t get an electric 2-wheeler for less than £8k with a range of 50m?
Have you always been this clueless?
@@fredbloggs5902 I'm referring to the model in the review that won't get you 50 miles and costs £8K, of course there are plenty of electric bikes starting from around £2K with a 50 miles range or better.
They've been around a while very tasty price to go with the performance
Compared to a Silence SO1 / SEAT Mo the equal factors are : price is roughly the same. Top speed is about the same. Has same three driving modes. pros are; looks cool, ABS, charging speed, charges much faster. The cons are: battery capacity 2.8 kWh in total, only half of SO1's 5.6 kWh, storage nil, including so far as I can see, for the second battery, compared to the Silence's generous seat bucket where you can fit 2 full face helmets, much less weather protection. Essentially, you are paying 3.5 - 4K just so you don't look like a boring scooter, and also foregoing a lot of the utility that comes with a scooter. The main reason that electric bikes are so much more expensive is the cost of the battery packs. If you're not even getting that, its not good value.
not quite. Batterie is 1,5kWh for two (790Wh one) The silence has the same top speed, yes, but, as you say, 5,6kWh. Not only that, that battery got even a 230V converter build in. And I have no problem with regen and normal speed here in Barcelona to get 100mi range and more. And it costs half! Well, nearly. And where do you put a top case? Or your helmet? On the Silence you can bring a passenger, very comfortable, that's 2 helmets. And your shopping. And your leather jacket. No problem with the Silence. Here?
It´s a joke.
@@chrisspain Yes, you are right, I mis-read the i300 spec. So the i300 is even worse than I thought, in the real world you would struggle to achieve 30 miles of range. On the other hand, I now see that both i300 batteries fit under the floor. I used to have a Lexmoto Impulse, which had a single battery capacity of 1.44 kWh, very similar capacity to the i300, and I needed 2 batteries to manage a commute from the suburbs into London. In cold weather, that would go from 100 - 16% capacity in 16 miles, with a top speed limited to 43 mph. The SEAT Mo has been a fantastic upgrade, being able to do 50 - 60mile journeys on one charge. Purchase price for the Mo was £6000 with all the extras, about the same as a mid range i300. SEAT dealers are now marking down last years Mo stock to as low as £4000, e.g. ex demo 22 plate manufactured in 2021 still with less than 100 miles on the clock, like you say about half of the cost of a top range i300. But would just point out that while the Silence battery includes an internal charger and heater, the inverter (to get 230 vac back out) is not built in - you have to buy it as an optional extra.
Would like some larger wheels on an e scooter, too many potholes around here for wheels like that!
Never seen a 60mph superbike before 🎉
😂😂😂
The price must be astronomical 😮
I like Eilis!
Everybody likes Eilis. Get in line 😃
What's the range then did I miss it?
They’re claiming 55m using both batteries. My guess is more like 50.
@@fredbloggs590255 m???
So… from my house to the end of my street?
Brilliant!
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A battery that size (6kg) gives you about 1,5kWh. so 2 are 3kWh. if they are high tech batteries 4kWh at 1000pound a piece. that would give you a range at 60mph of around 18mi. under 10mi with one battery, a bit more at slower speed.
No mention of regen. For the 5500 pounds of estimated price (with one battery) not enough.
The size of a battery makes me laugh 😂
Looks great
Looks cool. But there's a reason the current design is the most dominant and has been for ages - storage. It's just very practical.
Here by looking cool we take away the practicality.
How would this do in snow? May look for a fat tire ebike instead for the 6 months long Minnesota winters
No wind protection, no under seat storage & no way of fitting a top box. It's just EV Hipster Twattery and NOT a proper scooter
It is not to be used, just for posing with an 8000 pound gadget. with the battery capacity you do not even leave your village.
I love these Electric 2wheelers, but . . . . It still looks silly and childish, totally not a motorbike.
Riding with your knees closed like that, it is like you need to pee, or ride with a skirt . . . .
How long does the battery last and how long does it take to charge?
Why no noise example in the review?
1:38 that's pretty good. isn't the best sportbike like 3 seconds 0-60? and doesn't that sportbike have like 150kw power? and this gets so close with 14kw peak? now i need to see one with upgraded motor controller 😀
oh it costs like 10k yeah no thanks. that's wayy too much.
How is it only 54 newton meters of torque?
@@StefanRandallmaybe they tell the motor torque and not wheel torque like some other might.
@@oplkfdhgk oh ok yeah maybe?
So it's a heavy bag on your back with the shopping 😢 !!!
Please tell me this is coming to America. this is something I'm definitely interested in
Slick!
Does it have traction control?
There is a distinct lack of relevant information as previously stated.Poor review.
What's the price? How far can it go on one battery? How long do it charge?I have lots of questions ❓
Interesting i guess but zero storage makes it way less practical than a normal scooter, missed a trick there!
There's a reason why that's the most dominant design 😆
Storage solutions available online - have a look
I have a boring gotrax with a small 250 watts on the front and full power goes 15mph and 10 miles range
Ground clearance looks poor, otherwise great. How much?
If you have to ask, it is not for you.
How tempting would it be for some vandal to come along and cut the rubber chain.
credit for thinking of that, credit removed that your brain would even go there.
Price??? Range???
On there website they start at 6500 pounds with one battery and standard charger. With 2 batteries and fast charger the cheapest option runs around 7300. With a few extras and the mentioned upcycled Materials and carbon parts you get to over 10000 pounds. Superbike vibes, indeed.
I don’t see how it’s only 54 newton meters of torque? My 500 watt KBO breeze e bike is 60 newton meters? I feel like the claims of torque for most e bikes is very ambiguous?
No price, no battery range, no charging speed. 🤦♂️
Just so many questions
Nether seen a super-bike i guess…. Or a TMax or XAdv
The admiration of a beauty it is. Like I always say, "haterz always gone hate". It's not the fact that everyone is leaving a bad review it's the fact that it's a awesome bike and they kant have it now. 😅🤣🤣🤷 I would love to try a sample of the product to prove NY theory correct.
10k too much
But for Asian countries you have to redesign seat, bcoz Asian prefer 2 people on motorbike
Uhhh...it still looks like an electric scooter. I don't see the "superbike" at all. Maybe in tech, but not in design.
Nope, but try the new coming BMW scooter - thats design
That 'scooter' is useful as an anvil.
0-60 in under 5 seconds is rediculous thats faster than 90% of all cars on the road lol
This looks ideal for my "Dynamic Charging Systems©" which will make these bikes have an unlimited range. I need to speak with the manufacturers.
Looks great.
But why is there nowhere to carry anything on it? 🙄
What you mean, you want to USE it? Its a poser bike, not to go anywhere.
@@chrisspain I think all motorised bicycle design is a dead end - and t has been for more than 40 years.
But at least this isn't pretending to be some historic throwback. (I'd rather buy a used CE-04 though)
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I don't see any storage space.
For what? You are not going anywhere with that mini battery and when you arrive you can´t even store your helmet. The designer obviously does not ever ride a city scooter.
Thumbs Down for no price
The front design is hideous. But to be fair, the back half is sex.
Just watched this and thought what a load of bollocks; it looks little different from other scooters, the interchangeable battery pack is not a new idea, 0-60 in 5.5 secs isn't that fast...there is nothing here that screams innovation
I'm not a fan of these bias reviews
17 year old with little to no knowledge of the highway code or road skills can have superbike performance... can't see any issues with that...
Common bro , superbike 😂😂😂 , it's cool , good geometry , but Its to low , I wanna go outside road as well .
Lol
"As desireable as a superbike"
Water was the first end of the world, fire is to be the next. Just imagine when the world is full of batteries that once alight, are impossible to put out🤔
toooilet or ?
In American dollars this turd will be $8,000 and only available in the UK 💯
Its ugly, its electric, you will definitely not hear it coming, its boring, no storage, charging time is probably 2-3hrs no one asked for this, no storage, sits way too low, people just get on combustion engines, its the only thing that really and truly works
I'm sure it's a very good electric scooter BUT stop with the references to Superbikes it's nothing like in looks, style, riding postion etc etc oh and 14 KW really what's that in BHP ?? SUPERBIKE performance ?? Really come on get real.
Meh, nothing "Sporty or Agressive" about it. It's still a step through scooter, so you sit on it like a girl.
The only good I see out of this is the ability to remove/replace and recharge the batteries.
Also, thise are not "Mo-Peds", they are scooters. A Mo-Ped, short for Motorized Pedal Bike, meaning it is a bicycle that has pedals thst are used to get the bike moving and the internal combustion engine operating, or the bike can be pedaled if you want silence/zero exhaust or are out of gas.
Looks like individual pieces. It's ugly and not cohesive. Super bike my ass.
And it will be stolen within the 1st week of owning it.
Expensive virtue signalling waste of money and it's not "sustainable" because electricity has to be produced from the conventional grid and all large batteries have issues with hazardous materials and disposal. Furthermore it has ZERO luggage space unlike petrol scooters which can be incredibly frugal (up to 150 MPG) and which can be purchased for a fraction of this machine. EV makers just don't get it. Until they can get the price down to reasonable levels no-one except fools are going to buy them.
The amount of times they said supervise while showing this ugly nonsense scooter is downright embarrassing.
Overpriced
Get yourself a Surron, save £6k and don't feel gay
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