@@christopherrobinson9690 lol. I send customers to my local shop all the time! I'm even repping the local shop deck rn! The way I see it is, the people who shop at zumiez aren't the same people who shop local so they're not *really* stealing customers from them. The people who walk in to zumiez trying to get a board are either beginners/parents with their kid and neither of them know whats up yet, or its someone from a town over who doesn't have a local shop so this is all they have. As the only skater there, Its my job to be an expert and make sure they're getting the right gear. Otherwise they might end up getting venture lows that aren't the right size with 56mm on a board with steep kicks. Thats a weird turning, wheelbitey, ghostpoppy mess! On the low I even be giving away my old gear that I hide in the back for free so Its not about the money for me. I actually don't even get paid that much. My sales record mainly contributes to my productivity stats. Its mainly about having a job where i can apply these skills and knowledge and have fun doing it while helping customers know whats up. I try to be welcoming and informative and not pushy. Admittedly, some of the other employees are all about that $ though. Like all they'll care about is a sale But as an actual skater I try to treat people in the skate community with extra care and get them right because i'll probably run into them at the park lol. btw, I would love to work at local but you know how it is, not enough staff spots to go around.
@@the1ndonly595 if you’re not a beginner and you know about your local shop and you still shop at zumiez then you’ve made the decision to go with convenience / making it easier on your pockets over giving them your support. I understand that some people can’t afford it. On the other hand, if you’re just cheap then thats on you. At least you'll have a setup vs no setup at all. Its better to have something to skate vs not skating at all imo. Whatever it takes to keep you rolling!
yesterday i searched for a k5 review to really find out if the new turn was legit but i only found their riders reviewing it or unboxing. luckily ben came clutch!
The weird thing is you hit on a crucial point early on here but don't really think it through. You are going to get used to whatever you skate (within reason). Are Indy's even that good? If you skate any truck and then switch to another, chances are it'll feel weird and not as good; now imagine that everybody hypes this truck as the "best" and you have the same mythology as Indy. I just don't buy it. Buy almost any decent/standard trucks, adjust em, change the bushings, they're going to be fine. I ride plain old Tensor aluminums with some Doh Dohs and I don't know if I'd even trade them for Indy's. I'm totally happy with how I've got them setup/adjusted now.
I've been riding indy ace and krux for several years on my set up, i don't skate street just bowl and sometimes vert. Krux bushing really really good when you put it on ace because the rebound they have, ace bushing in the other hand for me feels really good on indy. I tried a lot of bushing to make krux k4 turn starting from indy until bones with some of the durometer they have, all of that i used only the cone shape, but recently i bought fullset of globe 9 inch board and have a 6.0 tensor truck with interlock bushing, at first i just want to try it for fun cause that's too soft to put on tensor truck but after i put it on krux, my krux truck just turn really good, it feels turny nearly like indy and more stable than any other truck i've ever ridden, for sure going to buy another set of krux again. But between the k4 and k5 i don't feel any major differetn it's really smilliar actually, it's more of changing the bushing duro and shape to make it feel different and behave different. I change the bushing because i saw your video about bones bushing with krux truck
I am so appreciative of your vast skate knowledge Ben. I actually really enjoy Krux for cruiser setups because they feel very wavy in the turn. Indy's turn is surfier and more immediate responding as you've said. Everything you said is actually spot on, wowm.
Remember the thinner grinding surface means less friction. So it should slide better overall, but like you said if it caught between something it might not slide through certain shitty ledges.
Wouldn't the smaller surface area create higher pressure at contact patch? I was literally thinking up a super wide (50mm) grinding surface when I read your comment. It seems like the wider surface would be exceptionally slippery.
Nice, can't wait to try em this summer! Pandemic and snow is a bad combo for us in Michigan. Mine still have a good chunk of meat left on em, but I'm tempted for the turn improvements
i have a friend who used to ride for krux, he kept breaking them and the new trucks they would send him wouldn't turn at all. he bought a pair of indys and by the end of the week he emailed ron and quit krux
I just put independent bushings in my k5 s 😅 made them a little better but I still am really hating them compared to my old Indy’s An thunders when I skated 4 years ago just started back an thought I’d give the k5s a try good truck for the price point but defintly not cheaping out next time
Nobody swaps ace bushings for krux bushings anymore because ace has new bushings that are way better and krux bushings are way overhyped (I ride krux), the main reason people did this previously was because of a slight size difference that worked great on aces.
Hoping i can get out on my new setup. I feel like the only Krux fan lol. Using those tablet spitfire formula fours and a wider truck than i'm used to 8.25.. so excited to see how the extra axle meat translates into grinds. Hoping the extra width on the truck helps me pinch my fs crooks more!
Ive got krux on my favorite board with bones hard bushings and they seem very stable when you tighten the bushings down enough. Even when very tight, the krux still turn better than ventures. Ventures feel very nice and stable when rolling but its hard to wiggle out when landing a trick on the ventures bc they dont turn very quickly.
You’re also the Vancouver carpenter huh? I just watched a vid the other day on how to find a wall stud and I just made the connection that you guys are the same person.
Wow, Ben with the ceramic bearings. I just bought those same ones and wanted to compare them to the bones ceramic Swiss bearings that I’m riding now. I want to come to Canada just to skate that spot! Looks super fun!
snowing in Toronto, so no skating going on for me :( , but damn that inclined-babystair-ledge spot looks sooooo sweet! has me itching for a sesh! P.S. INDY FOR LIFE!
I feel like the K4's were super stable and a more tech-y truck, like Venture or old Tensor. Like yeah, they might not turn fast or deep, but that made certain tricks/styles easier. I feel like there was a lot of Mullen DNA in these older designs, but the market has spoken and they want turny trucks.
@@purrpocalypse I just don't even get these takes. Change the bushings and adjust the trucks. The physics just aren't that complicated to be like gee this one turns so different than that one. They're trucks.
I got these k5 for 47 bucks for a pair super cheap in my opinion so if they are trash not a big loss can always use them as a bottle opener if I end up not liking them lmao
Still not my kind of truck but I enjoy trying different things. I'm a more of an indy or ace kind of guy, depends on deck for me one which I go with. I feel you on the rain. It's the wettest time of year for me, just spent an entire week indoors. Looks like it might dry up today. I work from home on computers so not going outside is just super depressing. I tried finding a covered spot, there was a basketball court but it rained so much it flooded out, there was a couple of abandoned buildings that I figured I'd check out. one was down a hill and flooded the other had a leaky roof and everything inside was soaked. I was seriously bummed out with nothing to do but sit inside and play games but that wasn't what I wanted to do or spend my weekends.
Hey Ben, a couple questions. I saw a video of yours discussing manual balance point but can’t remember which video it was in. If I were trying to increase the balance point for manuals on a setup would I be more concerned with wheelbase or the steepness of the kicks? Also do you do any tricks off your nose rather than your tail? I had a buddy that exclusively skated the nose as the tail. And I normally do front shuvs, front big spins, and hardflips using the nose as the tail. Just wondering if you had any quirks like that in your skating?
please do a review about the film trucks 5'5! I own the trucks and am very satisfied with them and there are litteraly no reviews on the internet at all!
Please do a video where you skate with a bunch of heavy stuff on like a backpack, winter coat and full pockets and then take all that stuff off and see how much difference it makes.
I just looked at my Bronson bearings package and noticed they are made in China. I guess that’s why they are so much cheaper than the bones ceramic that are made in Switzerland. I have tried modus ceramic but their box doesn’t say where they are made so I assume China
@@bendegros, cool thanks bro! Ive been going through some terrible madness lately, but i always seem to go back to either indy titaniums or venture lo’s. But the madness continues lol
You got a wife and a bunch of kids, throw 1 or 2 ads in man. We’re not going anywhere lol
Doesn't bother me, i pay have youtube premium.
There should be one. One is enough. I hate midroll ads so I won't do that to my viewers. It's about respect :)
@@bendegros we love you Ben
@@bendegros ill sit through another ad :)
@@bendegros RUSSSSSSPEXXXXXXXXXXXXXX BEN!
i work at zumiez and the fact that i watch this channel and these videos a lot really helps contribute to my sales record lol
Oh no! You hear that sizzling local shops reaction! The F bombs dropping!!!🤬🤬🤯 LOL! Nice! Make that money!!!
@@christopherrobinson9690 lol. I send customers to my local shop all the time! I'm even repping the local shop deck rn!
The way I see it is, the people who shop at zumiez aren't the same people who shop local so they're not *really* stealing customers from them. The people who walk in to zumiez trying to get a board are either beginners/parents with their kid and neither of them know whats up yet, or its someone from a town over who doesn't have a local shop so this is all they have.
As the only skater there, Its my job to be an expert and make sure they're getting the right gear. Otherwise they might end up getting venture lows that aren't the right size with 56mm on a board with steep kicks. Thats a weird turning, wheelbitey, ghostpoppy mess! On the low I even be giving away my old gear that I hide in the back for free so Its not about the money for me. I actually don't even get paid that much. My sales record mainly contributes to my productivity stats. Its mainly about having a job where i can apply these skills and knowledge and have fun doing it while helping customers know whats up. I try to be welcoming and informative and not pushy. Admittedly, some of the other employees are all about that $ though. Like all they'll care about is a sale But as an actual skater I try to treat people in the skate community with extra care and get them right because i'll probably run into them at the park lol. btw, I would love to work at local but you know how it is, not enough staff spots to go around.
🙂🙌
@@_Maxten I’m not a beginner but I go to zumiez cause there’s another skate shop across the store and I can find cheaper decks
@@the1ndonly595 if you’re not a beginner and you know about your local shop and you still shop at zumiez then you’ve made the decision to go with convenience / making it easier on your pockets over giving them your support. I understand that some people can’t afford it. On the other hand, if you’re just cheap then thats on you. At least you'll have a setup vs no setup at all. Its better to have something to skate vs not skating at all imo. Whatever it takes to keep you rolling!
yesterday i searched for a k5 review to really find out if the new turn was legit but i only found their riders reviewing it or unboxing. luckily ben came clutch!
😀🙌
I felt attacked when he said “I know ur sitting at the toilet” 😭😭
😂🙌
Kinda crazy! I was, too!
me too
🤣🤣😂
Worse, I am at my desk at work...
this man is the entire SLAP truck setup thread in one human brain
If you think pivot fakies are fun, just wait until you learn them as a nice long grind. It's the best feeling trick ever.
The weird thing is you hit on a crucial point early on here but don't really think it through. You are going to get used to whatever you skate (within reason). Are Indy's even that good? If you skate any truck and then switch to another, chances are it'll feel weird and not as good; now imagine that everybody hypes this truck as the "best" and you have the same mythology as Indy. I just don't buy it. Buy almost any decent/standard trucks, adjust em, change the bushings, they're going to be fine. I ride plain old Tensor aluminums with some Doh Dohs and I don't know if I'd even trade them for Indy's. I'm totally happy with how I've got them setup/adjusted now.
You should do a review on the Bronson ceramics. I’m curious about them.
I know the G3 are nice.. I won't go back to bones
In due time:)
@Ben Degros im so excited for the review. There is no review about them anywhere and im not sure if they are better then the raws or not.
I had shake junt, bones, andale, and bronsons and I found out that if you broke all of them in bronson rolls longer and faster then all of them
@@averyprice9422 I had some g2 and the cage broke on it somehow lol. They are good tho but now I’m back on the reds
Black shoes with the white laces is such a classic look
It's a tiny bit anxiety-inducing watching someone skate a wet park.
It was even worse being the one skating it 😂
@@bendegros Just had to have that sesh though didn't you, gotta love west coast Canadian winters right.
why is your son a better filmer than all of my homies
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we appreciate any content from this channel even if its not informative-
Thank you Oskar :)
I've been riding indy ace and krux for several years on my set up, i don't skate street just bowl and sometimes vert. Krux bushing really really good when you put it on ace because the rebound they have, ace bushing in the other hand for me feels really good on indy. I tried a lot of bushing to make krux k4 turn starting from indy until bones with some of the durometer they have, all of that i used only the cone shape, but recently i bought fullset of globe 9 inch board and have a 6.0 tensor truck with interlock bushing, at first i just want to try it for fun cause that's too soft to put on tensor truck but after i put it on krux, my krux truck just turn really good, it feels turny nearly like indy and more stable than any other truck i've ever ridden, for sure going to buy another set of krux again. But between the k4 and k5 i don't feel any major differetn it's really smilliar actually, it's more of changing the bushing duro and shape to make it feel different and behave different. I change the bushing because i saw your video about bones bushing with krux truck
I don't skate, prolly won't skate in the near future, but I've really liked watching your videos for the last couple years. So chill 😎 thanks
:D
I am so appreciative of your vast skate knowledge Ben. I actually really enjoy Krux for cruiser setups because they feel very wavy in the turn. Indy's turn is surfier and more immediate responding as you've said. Everything you said is actually spot on, wowm.
That stair set looks so rad! Sometimes I think some of those architects are low key skaters in a past life.
Remember the thinner grinding surface means less friction. So it should slide better overall, but like you said if it caught between something it might not slide through certain shitty ledges.
Wouldn't the smaller surface area create higher pressure at contact patch? I was literally thinking up a super wide (50mm) grinding surface when I read your comment. It seems like the wider surface would be exceptionally slippery.
Nice, can't wait to try em this summer! Pandemic and snow is a bad combo for us in Michigan. Mine still have a good chunk of meat left on em, but I'm tempted for the turn improvements
No way, just yesterday I was thinking if ben would review the nee krux. Such a good watch whilst in hospital.
i have a friend who used to ride for krux, he kept breaking them and the new trucks they would send him wouldn't turn at all. he bought a pair of indys and by the end of the week he emailed ron and quit krux
Nice name
I have a friend that rode for krux and he set up a pair about once a month because they constantly bent. He rides aces now lol
"if you have a good set up they're good" love you ben :D
😂 but seriously. It magnifies a poopy one
Love the revert! 💕👍
That spot with the steps looks like way too much fun!
The skating at the end was sick!
:)
I just put independent bushings in my k5 s 😅 made them a little better but I still am really hating them compared to my old Indy’s An thunders when I skated 4 years ago just started back an thought I’d give the k5s a try good truck for the price point but defintly not cheaping out next time
Ben you should do a "how to build your own kicker" video, or skatebox. That would be a cool video.
I'm surprised you're not getting at least flowed by a company Ben. Wouldn't hurt to try. Maybe it'll lead to something great!
I swapped my week old k4s for a set of stage VIIs with one down to the axle, that's how much I found they didn't turn.🤣
I’ve been skating mini logo trucks size 8.75(8.5) I recommend them. Great budget truck.
Nobody swaps ace bushings for krux bushings anymore because ace has new bushings that are way better and krux bushings are way overhyped (I ride krux), the main reason people did this previously was because of a slight size difference that worked great on aces.
I didn't even realize what Krux I'm skating I just thought they were the Nora painted. I dig them though, I like the built in bottle opener
Not sitting on the toilet but I am sitting in a nursing chair rocking my son to sleep at 5 a.m est 🤣😂
not sitting on the toilet, i even waited for the next morning to watch it while drinking my coffee!
thanks for the great content, keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes...I don't really really understand what you talking about...but i love you as my teacher who give knowledge of skateboarding...thanks😁👍
I'll have you know I was doing adulty things. I'm replacing architraves on my bathroom door as I listen to your review for trucks I will not be buying
😂
No way haha I got that same RDS top but I got the long sleeve. Repping it here in New Mexico lol
Hoping i can get out on my new setup. I feel like the only Krux fan lol. Using those tablet spitfire formula fours and a wider truck than i'm used to 8.25.. so excited to see how the extra axle meat translates into grinds. Hoping the extra width on the truck helps me pinch my fs crooks more!
I’ve always ridden Krux they just grind really smooth on metal and ledges and they have never broken A kingpin on me
@@Pterodactylphenylalanine I really liked em. I'm onto Ace these days but I'll get another set soon. They really do grind really smooth on ledges
I was sitting on the toilet...
🚽🧻😁
Krux seems like an amazing company. Not my favorite truck though. Even after swapping bushings. I do like their stock bushings in other trucks.
Funny content. A friend of us, was asking us if we have any experience with the new Krux trucks. You did the job for us 👍
Thank you! Been waiting patiently for this video🤘🏼
Aye Ben you are the best skate review channel out there , keep it up , your descriptions and evaluations are the only ones i trust
Ive got krux on my favorite board with bones hard bushings and they seem very stable when you tighten the bushings down enough. Even when very tight, the krux still turn better than ventures. Ventures feel very nice and stable when rolling but its hard to wiggle out when landing a trick on the ventures bc they dont turn very quickly.
Ok the day that krux makes a truck that turns like an indy I’m copping because I went from krux k4 to ace trucks huge difference
I like the brand. But they do lean and not turn. The company is cool as hell and bushing are good. Just need to turn lol.
@@titancheat ye dope brand just it sucks
I Just bought a pair of the 9 inch K4s and they turn terribly.but not anymore cause I put two bottom bones bushings in both trucks and it worked!
You’re also the Vancouver carpenter huh? I just watched a vid the other day on how to find a wall stud and I just made the connection that you guys are the same person.
I liked the Bronson ceramics review in the review. Very on point
Wow, Ben with the ceramic bearings. I just bought those same ones and wanted to compare them to the bones ceramic Swiss bearings that I’m riding now. I want to come to Canada just to skate that spot! Looks super fun!
Will be cool to see a review og Andy Anderson deck :))
Hey Ben we need the new af1 ace trucks review ?
Absolutely the best skateboarding review videos.
Thanks! :)
snowing in Toronto, so no skating going on for me :( , but damn that inclined-babystair-ledge spot looks sooooo sweet! has me itching for a sesh! P.S. INDY FOR LIFE!
Adulting on Saturdays is no fun. So I took a break to check out the video.
I'd rather be skating for sure.
I'm not adulting much today either. Had a good skate though!!!
@@bendegros glad you had a dry day to skate.
I miss the old krux down lows. Smoke them down tight and never turn lol. Loved it for flip tricks
I see you with the new cariuma x berrics on 🤝🔥
Love the bottle opener on the trucks lol but I’m still thunder for life
I hope that all is well for everyone here.
How about a review on Royal trucks? Would be interesting!
Underrated trucks imo
always a good day when Ben uploads
:)
But I like the shitty K4 turn! I like that everyone hates my setup!!! Haha 😂
😂
I feel like the K4's were super stable and a more tech-y truck, like Venture or old Tensor. Like yeah, they might not turn fast or deep, but that made certain tricks/styles easier. I feel like there was a lot of Mullen DNA in these older designs, but the market has spoken and they want turny trucks.
@@purrpocalypse I just don't even get these takes. Change the bushings and adjust the trucks. The physics just aren't that complicated to be like gee this one turns so different than that one. They're trucks.
Yo Ben! keep it up with the amazing content....but bro, I NEED that updated review on the new Aces!!!
Krux are cool because they have a hole in them and the inverted kingpin inverted kingpins are the future
The hole is so you can pop a bottle!! ;) seriously though, I’ve popped open a brew or two on them.
Exactly. They are a pretty good bottle opener. Thats for sure
nice video! would love to see a bearing review/comparison - especially on the bronsons, bc i'm thinking about getting some!
The bronsons ceramics is good to hear
That outro was eerily accurate.
:)
Any chance a future review of Spitfire F4 97a Duro? See they're in 54mm (you're "value" sized)
Myself I do love most Spitfires but OJ just came out with the Nomad 95a and I’ve heard good reviews from couple skate bros(not sponsored by OJ)
I got these k5 for 47 bucks for a pair super cheap in my opinion so if they are trash not a big loss can always use them as a bottle opener if I end up not liking them lmao
Bronson ceramics? Well la-di-da! Mr Degros riding on some fancy balls!
😏
@Rico Seriously though I'd like to see a review of those. Never tried ceramic bearings myself because they're usually very expensive.
Still not my kind of truck but I enjoy trying different things. I'm a more of an indy or ace kind of guy, depends on deck for me one which I go with. I feel you on the rain. It's the wettest time of year for me, just spent an entire week indoors. Looks like it might dry up today. I work from home on computers so not going outside is just super depressing. I tried finding a covered spot, there was a basketball court but it rained so much it flooded out, there was a couple of abandoned buildings that I figured I'd check out. one was down a hill and flooded the other had a leaky roof and everything inside was soaked. I was seriously bummed out with nothing to do but sit inside and play games but that wasn't what I wanted to do or spend my weekends.
you're awesome man! thanks for the review
DUDE. You are getting better lol. Crazy
You really just called me out at the end. I have adulty things I need to do and am on the toilet. That honestly caught me off guard, kinda spooky
😂
thanks a lot , that's a great review but to be honest This spot with multiple little stair set is now my new dream spot XD
Great review I am gonna grab a set. Skating was sick too.
Good Review Bro 🤘 I'm a big fan from Thailand 🔥🔥🔥
Dang, how'd he know I'm slacking off on my lectures?
Hey Ben, a couple questions. I saw a video of yours discussing manual balance point but can’t remember which video it was in. If I were trying to increase the balance point for manuals on a setup would I be more concerned with wheelbase or the steepness of the kicks? Also do you do any tricks off your nose rather than your tail? I had a buddy that exclusively skated the nose as the tail. And I normally do front shuvs, front big spins, and hardflips using the nose as the tail. Just wondering if you had any quirks like that in your skating?
Can you review the 95a OJ wheels. Can’t find any other people talking about them because they’re relatively new
Ah The Nomads, there's a bunch of people interested in them but I haven't seen much in the way of reviews just buzz.
I ride Aces with Krux bushings because the Krux top bushings are shorter than the Ace ones and I like a bit of wobble.
please do a review about the film trucks 5'5! I own the trucks and am very satisfied with them and there are litteraly no reviews on the internet at all!
Ben those stair set looks like much fun nice :D we got a set like this in the next city so nice :D
Louis Barletta can kill it on those, what's your excuse?
I bestow upon you, the honor of picking your video to watch while i eat
Finally ben is back !!
Holy shit that spots looks like endless fun
Make a review for Film trucks! please
It’s been forever! 😭😭
I'm watching this before my adult thing Borski. Work isn't for another two hours!
Please do a video where you skate with a bunch of heavy stuff on like a backpack, winter coat and full pockets and then take all that stuff off and see how much difference it makes.
Odd request
Switch heel was butter 🧈
Yes! My favorite old man posted 😂
Not on the toilet but def procrastinating from work lol
Wait how did you know I was sitting on the toilet?
Hell nah.. I really am tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just a hunch
Hehe me too
What did I just hear? Bronson Ceramics are good? I never thought I’d hear that from you Ben after that Bronson slaying in an older video.
You need to try red and tacky for your bushings it will help with your turn response!
Ben cut some trucks in half and check the casting...
love the shirt, what is the brand. feels like ive seen them before
THANKK YOU FOR THIS REVIEW
I just looked at my Bronson bearings package and noticed they are made in China. I guess that’s why they are so much cheaper than the bones ceramic that are made in Switzerland. I have tried modus ceramic but their box doesn’t say where they are made so I assume China
Yo Ben, what would you say your ideal setup for ledge tricks would be? Like if you just wanted to make 5050’s, 5-0’s etc nice and easy?
Indys fo sho. Don’t care what else😂
@@bendegros, cool thanks bro! Ive been going through some terrible madness lately, but i always seem to go back to either indy titaniums or venture lo’s. But the madness continues lol
@@wallydupes5401 yeah independents feel nice for one truck grinds and 2 truck grinds I like ventures more