Asus Zephyrus G16: One MAJOR Issue!
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The loud noise apparently was a Driver issue that have been since fixed. You should pin a comment saying so.
Josh addressing my biggest question in the first 30 seconds. Still watched the whole video anyway.
You got it
Honestly it's great to get the dealbreakers out of the way at the beginning.
No joke, I saw the title of the video, clicked and immediately started seeking the end of the video with conclusions to find out the MAJOR issue. Then I heard Josh addressing it while I was searching for the right timestamp :D
@@JustJoshTech Aren't you exaggerating the issue in a sense that anybody can download g helper and tweak fan curves and power levels? Can you test such configuration, please, if you got time. I was planning to buy g16 and do that.
@@moken-cf7vu in the reviews he showed, sbd already tried this without any success. Maybe Josh and his team have already verified this?
But yes. Loud fan-noise in idle is a deal-breaker for any sleek Notebook, even more at this price-point.
In my eyes, ASUS tried too hard being the next Razer and failed even harder.
Had issues with fan noise out of the box as well which really bothered me while I was using it for light tasks. After researching a bit, I ended up uninstalling armoury crate and installed G-Helper. Now I can have 0 fans running and my CPU temps are consistently reporting below 45 C.
So don't get deterred by the fan noise as reviewed!
same experience here!
good looking out
Hi, did using G helper increase the fps in any noticeable manner? Thx
@@elderman64 didn’t really test the fps performance before and after, but G-Helper has definitely helped me manage my laptop exactly the way I wanted without all the asus bloat
I've never heard someone pronounce Zephyrus like that. Now I'm not sure If I've been butchering the name or if you did lol.
Australian people love to pronounce things different lol
Same. Though I like his pronunciation more than mine. Sounds cooler.
@@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALSyeah nah, I’m Aussie and I pronounce it as “Zefeerus”
Pointing out in detail about the different pitches in fan noise was a huge thumbs up from me. Reviewers generally miss details like that and noises like that can be detrimental for someone like me during personal use.
Josh, I had the same issues with the fan noise. With the 4080 version. I did a clean windows install and it is now far more optimized, runs cool and silent with No Fans. It's also quicker. I'm sure that some software in the background was running. Give it a try and see if it's better.
How did you do a clean install ?
Thanks
I been hitting 95c when playing cyberpunk , have you experienced high temps when playing ?
Now bring in the real experts
Fresh windows installs are never straightforward. Reinstalling the drivers and hoping it all plays nice without errors, or that some sequence of windows updates and driver and software installs don't screw anything up on Windows, is always a huge risk. They honestly need the factory image to be perfect to begin with, free of bugs, even if performance is not the greatest. Unfortunately Windows just isn't like that. Even on a laptop with set hardware, it can never be as reliable as something like a smartphone or tablet with a heavily tested and reliable image with no installation conflicts, permanently saved in the rom.
When you buy a laptop, it should work correctly straight out of the box.
@@aoikemono6414 idk if this is my first youtube comment ever but it might be. This is wildly untrue. Reinstalling windows is incredibly simple, especially these days. I literally just did this on a G14, and windows handled all drivers for me outside of what I did myself with nvidia. I didn't even reinstall any of the asus software as I am using g-helper instead. Even firmware will come through windows updates these days though you will get those faster from included software from the manufacturer since that is the part they are actually writing for (they arent the ones providing you the drivers and never have been).
From my G14 2024 experience, there was a moment where things seem to bug out. I too had that I couldn't get it quiet while doing nothing in quiet mode. I rebooted and replugged the power, and/or reswitched modes between performance and back to silent mode, and suddenly the fan noise was gone. The fans stopped instantly, machine was very cool still and still got 16000 in Cinebench R23. Since then I had multiple bios versions and it didn't happen again. I wonder if this is the same you had, specially since you hear a lot of people saying they have a quiet machine, and also a lot of people claiming they have a noisy machine :).
Delete armory crate and use G-Helper
Thank you for being honest! I too hate fan noise, its not even worth considering buying laptops that have terrible fan noise! Kudos to this channel!
Hi josh great vid do you have any clue what the rpms are on the fan on full/min load? Thanks!
Interesting to hear your take on fan noise. I returned my 2023 asus m16 in Lou of the 4080 G16. Noise was much quieter in my experience than the m16 and due to not having that small fan in the middle, the pitch of the noise was also less annoying. I felt that I could comfortably use the speakers while under load without much discomfort.
How about those thermals on the g16? Mine idled at 70c and had to return it.
@@yepcok2702mine idles around 45-60 c
Love your reviews!
Great review, Josh. I've been thinking about getting the G14 with RTX4050 and would love to hear your thoughts. (I currently use the Yoga slim 7 pro. I owned a Legion Slim 7 a few years back but it's too hot and not so efficient.) This would be my only al-round laptop I use for both office works and entertainment (web browsing/UA-cam/Netflix let's say 70% and gaming 30%). My main concern is the heat and battery consumption on light load when I bring the laptop outside. Would the G14 be an appropriate choice for this?
Great review as usual! Any plans to do 2024 Razer Blade 16s with 4080 or 4090?
Hey Josh
Great video as always, especially adressing the main concern of the video in the first 1 minute. This stands out as most youtubers would make you watch the entire video to find something out. Anyways, I was also wondering if you could review the recently revised lenovo ideapad pro 5i. It now has a core ultra 7 155H processor and thought it could be a good video to compare this ideapad to other core ultra laptops like the new zenbook or spectre 14.
After years with a microsoft surface and a macbook air I forgot that laptops have fan noises
Thanks for this review. Addressed my number one concern right away.
You got me. Liked and subbed. Ty for your honest reviews
Hey Josh, love your backgrounds on each aspect in incredible detail. I could not find another UA-camr that went over real world use of the NPU in the core ultra. Would you be able to make a video on real world use cases of the 512 MB or 1 GB NPU?
I have this laptop, browsing and light gaming the fans fine. It only goes loud when you push it to max efficiency. You can tweak the fans in amoury crate
Hi! Thanks for the video. Are you going to do review of dell xps 16, which was released last month?
you should give ghelper a try. It helped me with the fan noise problem and also gives me better control for my 2022 G15
Fan noise isn’t an issue for me, as long as its temps are okay!
thanks for comparing the diferent variants! I'd been leaning towards the 4080 one, but instead will wait a year and hope they fix the fan noise and heating, or that they redesign the M16 too... maybe I'll just cave and get one of the outgoing XPS 17s on sale...
Same, i wish they'd soon refresh the M16 for this year, but instead just dont make it as slim but keep it a bit thicker and make it run cooler, less noisy and have higher wattage gpus and upgradable ram. That'd be the perfect laptop
Living in a tropical country. Fan noise is the last we worry about.
then, It blows hot exhaust air into the screen
Thatswhy Intel didn't provided EVO certificate Black EVO sticker.
Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 2024 is great.
No RTX 4080 and higher options though
@@mcslender2965 true but overall for a laptop it is great.
If you want to do more heavy work so choose another laptop or desktop
@@HDRPC any other laptops you reccomend? Im looking for something i9 and 4080/4090 with at least 32 gigs of ram. I want a windows computer that does not look weird and gets the job done with relatively no major issues and its relatively quiet(Doesnt have to be quiet under load just ambient use browsing the web)
I just got my 4080 version and I think the fans are just a QC issue. Mine has no fan noise while doing non-intensive tasks such as web browsing or watching a movie. Even while under load in performance mode, fan noise rarely goes above 45 dB. Hopefully not everyone has to deal with high fan noise with this amazing laptop.
I was thinking of getting the G14 model from this brand/series but it’s quite expensive, would you recommend it? i’m not gonna use it for something specifically but i would like to buy a laptop and not have to worry about buying another for the next 5 years at least, would that make the price worth it? any thoughts on the laptop itself?
Love your review that focus on metrics that normal user care about. Battery life, heat, fan noise, and efficiency is rarely cover by other channel. Every manufacture can pump more power and spin fan faster, and call it a day. And the tradeoff of performance over any else is rarely worth it. I would like to see your coverage of 15 inch M3 MacBook Air with 16GB Ram and 512 GB SSD stock configuration.
Let me preface this by saying that I am extremely new to optimizing laptops but would undervolting the cpu help with the big issues of heat and fan noise as you said that the cpu gets such bad diminishing returns?
Is the room hot? I got the version with 4070 and I barely hear any fan when browsing
Do you really not hear any noise in the 4070 version?
Excellent review. Subbed! Blade 16 4090 in the works?
I wonder if part of the issue is Armoury Crate? I had fan/heat issues on my 2023 M16 and the deck was always really warm no matter what I was doing due to high CPU temps. Changed to G Helper as had been suggested and have had no more issues. Barely hear the fan and even with moderate workloads the CPU is staying at around 44 - 55 degrees C where it was around 65 - 80 previously (even when doing very little). Fans can still get loud when gaming on Turbo mode, but I mostly keep it at balanced where it's still loud, but not terribly so.
hello what is G helper?
Josh, awesome review as always. Is the noise issue as bad in the G14? Noticed the similar dB measurements.
G14 is a bit better. Still high pitched and still not great, but it's better yes
I really enjoy watching your reviews even if the product isn't something I would actually buy. I have almost entirely switched over to Macs for nearly everything and a gaming laptop isn't something for me since I don't play games on PC (only Xbox and Switch) but it is still cool to see what is out on the market right now.
Really appreciate the contrast with the Yoga 9i. Great laptop for comparison and consideration. Been very tempted to the Yoga Pro 9i for awhile now.
I have to say I haven't had any of the fan issues you mentioned (had the 4090 model). So that's strange (but not entirely surprising if you've ever browsed the various ASUS forums) and I wonder how widespread that issue is.
With that being said, here's how my experience best summed up:
Pros:
• Quiet Fan (maybe just got lucky with my unit but have to say my experience was dramatically different than what Josh experienced): Laptop either had fans turned off or generally under 2000rpm and were basically inaudible.
• Impressive Audio Quality: The speakers provide clear sound with great mids and bass, comparable/superior to the MacBook Pro 16 (though I did have to set Dolby Atmos to Movie-balanced mode).
• Beautiful OLED VRR Screen: First of its kind and it looks stunning. But I wish they instead just ironed out the issues they had with the previous mini LED models and gave us a glass mini LED panel with anti-reflective coating. 450-ish nits is not quite enough for use in brighter environment or outside, but it's manageable. Great if you plan to use it mostly indoors, but even at night the minimum brightness is too high. With all the R&D they put into that partnership with Samsung Display, I think those ux details could've been ironed out.
• Plugged-In Performance: When connected to power, the laptop delivers solid performance, showcasing a beautiful display without noticeable slowdowns.
• Design and Portability: just barely over 4 pounds along with the screen size means it's the most portable gaming laptop I've ever used.
• USB-C Passthrough Charging: finally, ASUS listened and gave us something we've been begging for. Will help significantly reduce battery wear while using USB C charging.
Cons:
• Underwhelming Core Ultra Chip Performance at Lower Power Levels: The chip did meet my hopes, especially for demanding tasks or at lower wattages. My main use cases were coding, very simple ML models, and web design.
• Battery Performance: Performance dips significantly on battery power, with occasional stuttering and sluggishness in battery saver mode, and the battery life was 5-ish hours unless I manually capped the PL1/PL2, in which case it just too slow to get work done without hitches.
• Hibernate and Modern Standby Issues: Modern standby needs to go away and MS should figure out how Apple does it. ASUS auto places the laptop into hibernate after like an hour which means you have to wait 10-15 seconds after turning it back on before you can use it. You can disable this, but then you get (IMO) excessive battery drain and come back later that day with 2-3% dropped every hour.
• Battery Life Management: It's 2024 - can a laptop vendor just optimize the power modes on the laptop so we don't have to constantly adjustment settings to optimize performance on battery. It's a hassle for the majority of people who just want everything to work as advertised (and ASUS advertises 10 hours of battery life for web browsing).
• Limited Maximum RAM: 32GB is fine for gamers but they don't even sell higher capacity models. Since everything is soldered, at least give us the option for 48 or 64. 32 is not enough for more advanced LLMs, after effects work, large photoshop files, etc. Only mentioning this because ASUS markets the G16 as a creator laptop + it even ships with Nvidia Studio drivers.
Fan noise is very subjective. I highly doubt you magically got a good unit and he somehow got THREE bad units. He also isn't working alone, so it's a consensus between several people. I would love for this to gain traction as fan noise is my biggest peeve. The laptop would be fantastic otherwise. There are mitigating strategies, like significantly reducing cpu power draw, as detailed in the review, that could lead to much cooler and quieter operation.
I have very similar use cases as you (Programming, ML, especially running Deep Learning models). The point about Ultra 9's performance surprises me, especially since it's the highest end processor in Meteor lake series. Care to elaborate what do you mean by "at lower power levels"? Did you put it into that mode using ASUS's utility? Also how's the performance when it's in performance mode instead, while still on battery (not plugged in)?
@@aoikemono6414 That's what's also surprising me. Of the several issues I have with this laptop, interestingly enough the fan noise is not one of them. I couldn't tell you why, but it's just not loud, and most of the time the fan is off.
Granted I did manually set the fan speeds along a temperature curve for each power mode, but even at higher power levels the temps stay cool enough for the CPU to be adequately cooled at 2000 RPMs (I think the max is like 6 or 8k so 2k is very quiet).
Also just wanted to point out that how someone hears fan noise can be subjective, but the actual dB reading at a given distance, and the fan RPMs that cause said noise, are not subjective. My point on one unit being magical and some others experiencing issues is very possible.
ASUS laptops are beautifully designed, but there are countless examples of variances from unit to unit depending on how well a given laptop is manufactured (see redditors discussing issues with the LM application on their Zephyrus and Scar models), the fan curve applied for different set temperature intervals, and the ambient temperature of the room.
@@AayushSoni1196 Using G Helper (open source version of ASUS' Armoury Crate) to cap the CPU TDP in silent mode to 23W PL1 and 18W PL2. For me, that's the max amount of power draw I'd accept (would equate to 4 to 5 hours of battery depending on the other components).
When it's in performance mode on battery (or Balanced as ASUS calls it), the performance is just okay. It's basically the same CPU performance as the 13900h but with GPU performance around 1.4x faster than the iGPU in the 13900h.
For example (on battery), if I was trying to use an app like Upscayl that mostly makes use of the GPU, and had it on battery, I'd either have to turn on the Nvidia card (where now I'm getting like 3-4 hours of battery) or just live with each upscaling job taking 4 or 5 times as long as if the Nvidia card is running.
Also even when running on silent mode with PL1/PL2 at 23/18w and letting the display auto switch to 60hz, moving between workspaces always stuttered (the animation itself had hiccups), scrolling on websites was janky, interacting with simple wordpress editor felt significantly slower than when it's plugged in (things taking long to load, having to click twice for an action to be reflected on screen, etc).
For simple web browsing it was more than fine and you can get 9-10 hours, but when you start doing work it'll drop down to half that. And the benefits of having such as powerful dGPU don't apply to battery power since you'll want to disable the 4080/4090 unless you're okay with its high idle power draw, or keeping a plug nearby.
Oled is a blatantly superior option for a gaming laptop due to faster response times so the change is for the better. It would've been nice to have both options like with Blade 16 too, but I guess they didn't offer it due to redesign
Make a video about what to check , step by step , when buying a used, private sale Macbook from Ebay, with no warranty
Been waiting for this review!
Great video! Is the full review for the transcend 14 on the works? I watched the live and can’t wait for that one !!
Should be tomorrow. Latest Friday
can u check if there is any color fringing when looking closely at text/icons , because OLEDs have a differing RGB sub-pixel layout and sometimes that causes issue with rendering clear text, thanks
which has higher fan noise, g14 or g16?? please answer
How's the hinge and screen wobble?
I'd be interested to know how the 100 Watt gharging is on these. I like to carry one 100W charger for my zenbook, tablet and phone and keep it light.
Would love to see how the Omen Trancend 16" OLED compares in fan noise to the noisy G16.
Hi, do you have an issue with this laptop with an Ethernet cable connected with an USC C adapter on the boot of the computer? In my case get stuck in Asus logo
What about the new Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Ultra? Wouldn't that one be a solid quiet 16" alternative?
In my country,they are going to sell the 4070 model with 32gb of ram for the same price as the 4080 model shown in the video here.
After removing blessed amoury crate, my G16's fan speed drop significantly. In quiet mode, G16 maintain 0 fan speed constantly now.
what are your temps?
There is more, the power plug is an exact right angle exposing to being easily snapped off or causing a short when bumped.
The zephyrus lineup is great but feels like it stuck beetwen 2 ends. I have a zenbook 14 currently which is honestly just awsome in all aspects. I am looking to upgrade tho because of gaming preferences, i would rather get the strix 16 for the same price as the zephyrus 16.
Nice review. Awaiting review of Legion 7i 2024
I have this laptop and don't hear the fans.
Did you turn on the AI noise cancelling?
Will the fan be bad on the 4090 version?
Should I get the asus g16 with 4070 , or the transcend 14 with 4060, or the hp spectre 16 worth 32gb ram and 4050? I'll mainly watch videos and sometimes maybe play warzone and fortnite. And maybe other games but mostly cod and fortnite. Which one should I get?
Hmm still getting the 4080 this Friday thanks for the Windows reinstall tip. I currently have a 3080 8gb zephyrs and really love them so let’s see if this can win me over. Oh and to add my current model is silent when in windows or silent mode so let’s see. If it is true that this is loud then I am sending it back
@JustJoshTech
Can someone do me a favor and check your ROG Zephyrus 2024 for similar issues? I have the model with the RTX 4090. I noticed several things I either do not like or might be defective:
1. I noticed the trackpad mouse click is very stiff. By stiff, I mean perhaps the stiffest click I have ever encountered. After using the laptop for awhile my wrist is throbbing. Are you guys finding the mouse click to be higher than other laptops? I find the stiff click to a be a real letdown.
2. Just an observation but the fans on the default power mode are loud, very loud. I don’t understand why the fans need to be loud and audible just typing an email or work document. Obviously, I can change to silent but then the power drops and you defeat the point of paying for top-of-the-line hardware. I owned the Razer 16” recently and the fans never came on to browse, type, or do similar low wattage activities. If you use your computer to work all day, it is not fun to hear the whistle of fans constantly.
3. My biggest concern involves the OLED panel. Specifically, when I am looking at medium to dark colors (blacks are fine), especially greys, I can see what looks like noise. Medium to dark solid colors don’t look uniform. The way I would describe the noise is it looks like compression artifacts from a low-quality signal or a high ISO digital image. I wasn’t even looking for anything and I started to notice many of my dark backgrounds contained noise, much like a lower quality panel. To make sure I was not just being picky, I compared the colors to my older, cheap laptop with and IPS Screen and my 5 year old Benq photography monitor. Neither had any hint noise or uniformity issues. I’m really wondering if there is an issue with either my laptop or these OLED screens in general.
The problem is easy to identify and replicate, simply go to Fullscreen.one (or Google search it) and click on the 60% or 80% black and look closely. On mine you can see all kinds of random noise patterns.
If you have this laptop, please do me a huge favor and check out your results and post what you find. Thanks guys!
How long will it take for all the testing of Galaxy Book 4 series
i've always wondered why my asus zephyrus gets so much fan noise just for light web browsing like youtube
Hi, I'm an architect looking to change my laptop, i really want a 14 or 15 inch device that is powerful enough to handle Autodesk and Adobe softwares, Nvidia GeForce graphics, also would really love an OLED screen but there are a lot of options in the market and I don't know what would be the better purchase for the long haul? if you got any recommandations i would really apreciate it.
this was exactly what I`ve been searching for, thanks man !
haven't seen such detailed info anywhere else. absolute gorgeous work josh.
any updates on the omen transcend 14 full review?
Tomorrow or Friday
We need comparison between this and razer 16, focusing on the building quality. Please
I just picked up the G16 4070 version. I can definitely hear the fans. Won't bother me, I had a 10th gen razer blade whose fans reminded me of jet turbines, so I'm used to the sound. So far, I like what I'm seeing on this thing! The audio is really solid, easily as good as my MB Pro 14
Heard people saying that the issue of fan noise is because of armory crate
Alot of people uninstall it and install G Helper and get no fan noise
@@polargoat8785a windows reinstall and proper tweaking through G-Helper help a lot
Any chance you can review the omen transcend 16 2024 version with an oled screen?
i have an M16 11th gen i7 and to be franc had the same fan noise issue with it until i opened it up and saw half of the CPU with liquid metal and half without same for the GPU. After a good maintenance now my M16 is finally quiet with temps between 48-54 in Performance mode and normal use. Gaming 75-80 CPU and 63-66 GPU.
I just got it alongside the G14 and man…you’re right. the fan noise is always there, no matter what you’re doing. I’m in love with the 16” OLED screen though so I don’t know what to do. I already had a 2022 g14 and wanted something bigger. The Yoga 9i looks good but I’m not willing to downgrade in speaker and screen quality. Also numpads are dumb on gaming laptops IMO. Mini LED just isn’t OLED for me. The Razer is ridiculously expensive. I guess I just live with the fan noise.
One thing I noticed about the G14 is the keyboard is brighter and the speakers are significantly louder. It actually makes no sense.
For you I'd probably recommend last years Zenbook 14 pro 4070, ticks a lot of boxes and good all arounder.
@@harambe5815I like this year’s G14 but I already have a 14” and want 16”
I like the fan noise on the G14 2024 much better then on the G16 2024, also got them both here like the 240Hz and bigger screen of the G16 but I think the G14 is the winner.
I get the impression the 14” version is better rounded, something not right with the power and cooling here.
In my region you can get 32gb with 4060 and 4070 but it comes with the upgrade to the i9 cpu
1:14 this is not undervolting, this is simply setting a power limit.
While it may not fix fan noise issues, it sounds like this laptop would benefit from an undervolt for temps and efficiency
We definitely tried that. And I agree. It doesn't hurt
typing this from my g16, 4070 version said to have the worst fan noise. during gaming or processing heavy tasks the fans can be loud, but for my use case {crypto trading and general use} for me at least, the fans have been basically silent. maybe i just got lucky but i almost didn't buy this laptop because so many reviewers said it was awful but im glad i didnt listen bc i love this laptop and the fan noise is a non issue for me. it makes me wonder if my perspective and reviewers is completely different bc i have maybe upgraded a laptop every 3 years and so many of the old laptops i used had crazy fan noise but our modern technology has made most laptops very silent so perhaps any fan noise is considered terrible for modern standards and reviewers are surrounded by the best modern tech constantly? anyway if youre buying this laptop for a more casual use case the fans arent an issue at all, gaming and heavier tasks might be a different story tho and i know the rtx 4080-4090 have a better cooling setup.
Can the fan noise be fixed with updates? Or will it stay like that? I mean the fans don't bother me normally but they seem really loud and maybe I wanna learn in a Library, I think then it's a problem. The fans on the g14 are better?
the G14 is loud too, but not near as much as this in silent mode, just normally for a gaming laptop.
theoretically it's fixable via an update to their software, but until that update comes I'd not risk buying one.
@@houssamalucad753 but then I buy it now, live with the fan noise some months and then it gets better and I will be happier. I would go with the yoga if the mouse pad wouldn't be so much left and with oled. But it's not so i have to go with asus
Have you tried G-help ? to control the fan noise
Love your videos josh...would you please to a review of the Samsung book 4 ultra??
Good review! I have the 4090 G16 and I’m not bothered by the fans, pretty much equivalent to the Legion Pro 7i’s I’ve tested, maybe just a slightly higher pitch. And about the same as the Zephyrus M16 as well. Definitely louder than the Razer Blade 16 though and 2023 G14. I haven’t noticed the fans in Silent mode at all personally, but I’ll test more and come back and edit this comment when I do. I was on battery in Silent mode for a few hours a couple nights in a row just browsing and watching UA-cam and fans were at 0 rpm the whole time, dead silent. I will check again on Silent when plugged in. There was a bios update last week so maybe something changed, who knows.
UPDATE: Ok, so just spent some time in Silent mode plugged in to make sure I'm not crazy. Lots of tabs open, UA-cam going, and sure enough, the fans are at such a low rpm that even in a dead silent room, I have to put my ears right up to the keyboard to even tell they're on. So maybe a BIOS update fixed what Just Josh was experiencing, I'm not sure but these fans are not bad at all.
The plus side is you can use a third-party software like G-Helper to really adjust your fans and wattage better. Tbh I can even hit like 14k in Time Spy in Silent mode with fans running very low, and that’s pretty insane.
In Manual mode, the 4080/4090 models are given an extra 10W of base TGP (so up to 125W) and that helps a good little bit with performance. With G-Helper, you can access this adjustable base TGP in any mode you want which is also really cool.
The battery life is also crazy for a 4090 laptop. I was averaging a discharge of 8 to 10W on battery with like 10 tabs open, which would be about 8-10 hours. Only other 4090 laptop you can get battery like that from is the 2023 G14.
The metal build, speaker quality, thinness, and screen quality/bezel is probably the best out there of any gaming laptop I’ve used. Some people may prefer the higher brightness of mini-LED though.
can ghelper address these issues
@@skimandlavery easily, yes
Yo when can we expect YOUR review of the G16 though? Even better if you have some Ghelper config that we can follow
Can you address the comparison to the Yoga 9i. I'm coming from the 2021 g15 and need to upgrade. I was going to get the new g16, but this video and the nonsensical soldered ram plus pricing is pushing me sadly away from asus
@@Ryezn5057 I can’t unfortunately I don’t have that one. But keep in mind that this channel is geared towards productivity. The Yoga 9i is not a gaming laptop and is not designed to be one either. You will not have nearly as much customization over things like wattage, fans, temperature limits, overclocking, custom power profiles, advanced Optimus, high combined GPU + CPU wattage, Gsync, none of that. The productivity laptops like that typically just have 3 power modes and that’s it. And you’re stuck with how they’re tuned. But if you’re not after gaming performance then they’re awesome
Great work!
Good video. It must be the Ultra 9, as I have a G16 with a 4060 and Ultra 7, and on Silent mode it's entirely silent with no fan noise at all.
Put it on AC, on performance mode or Turbo, and enjoy the high pitch whistle my friend.
I hope you did bios and windows updates for new intel ultra core cpu before testing.
Thanks for this. I have cancelled my order for the G16 and will wait for the Yoga Pro 9i instead.
Please consider doing a video on the new msi creator 16 ai studio a1v, I live it will like a large segment of the audience
Thanks Josh for the video examples of the fan noise. Holy crap that's awful. Keybard and underside temps are also so useful as someone who works on commute and has my laptop on my lap. Those 4070 temps are miserable.
Pricing is comparable to the m16 though
How much can I upgrade the ssd on the 4070 version?
What do you think of the 2023 version of the g16?
Is there thermal throttling?
Excellent video. When can we expect the full review for the 2024 Lenovo Yoga 9i 2-in-1? 😁
We are finishing the script right now.... but i'm distracted responding to your comment
@@JustJoshTech lol 🤣
Hi, i like this laptop very much. I’m not a pc gamer, i need a laptop for general use, sometimes view movies, videos on UA-cam, and simulator like BKOOL for my bike trainer. What do you thinking about? This one vs strix g18. But this one oled panel is georgeus
Given that im planning to tune power and fan speed with Ghelper anyway so i think this is a pretty good choice all things considered
The 4090 is £4000 in the UK, which is $5000. The G16 is one of the most expensive laptops in the UK.
@@andyH_England Im buying from the US so pricing is less crazy. Its pretty much in line with the M16 when it was released and Imma wait til at least Black Friday anyway when sales are going on
Hi Josh,
Hope you doing well
Please give us review of acer predator triton 17x
I found rare reviews online
Thank you
Is g16 with ultra 7 model has the same noise level as well?
Wouldn’t the second issue be the non upgradable ram ?
Anyone with this model? I have bought and on the first day after several windows + BIOS updates, the wifi icon gone! I did everything. Downgraded BIOS, reset windows, but nothing helped. Please! It is now 4th day and I had to give it back to the store. Does this happen to anyone else?
I am using ROG ZEPHYRUS G16 i7 12700H.
Please try updating all drivers from My Asus and also update windows... Am I only one who faced this issue?
Is the LPDDR5X can compete with DDR5 RAM?
@JustJoshTech , can you also post a comment or update the video description if Asus somehow fix the fan noise issue with a drivers update or something?
Yes i'll do that now
@@JustJoshTech Thanks a lot. A quick question. Would you still recommend the new yoga pro 9 over this one? I will be studying cybercec and wanted a laptop thats good for technical stuff and gaming and it looks to me that the yoga was better. Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate it.
Again excellent Sir, can you please tell us that it has custom fan tuning option or not? If it has custom fan so we can reduce fan speed according to our need.
I specifically showed that in the video. Please watch it
@@JustJoshTech yes got it. Thanks
Problem with windows ecosystem is poor efficiency vs performance when compared to Apple chips and on top of it clumsy configuration on Windows to get the right things in place for optimal performance. In Mac OS there are no such configuration like performance and turbo and that too separately for CPU and GPU. This is really frustrating for a experienced software engineer like leave aside professionals or students.
That's weird, I've had mine (4090 version) now for a couple of weeks and I have had very little issue with the fan noise. When under load it goes pretty good but isn't as bad as my previous gaming laptop. When I'm doing writing on it, the fans aren't even going.
Still not an issue? Thinking of buying the 4050 version, which should in theory produce even less fan noise since it doesnt generate the same amount of heat.
@@nippe923 Not that I've had.
Does the G14's silent mode not work either?
Can we expect the HP Transcend 14 review by tomorrow ?
Great review, JJ and Team! Eeesh, how can Asus improve the fan noise when the surface temps get that hot? I bet the components are cool enough but it's the actual surface temps that need to be under control, resulting in Asus tuning the fans to behave this way. I love how Asus takes a swing and redesigns its machines every couple years, or every year in some cases; but i feel like this time they took the thinness just a hair too far. A couple mm of extra thickness would have gone a long way, I think, in terms of cooler surface temps and quieter fans. (And with this comment, I admit I know nothing about computer design; i am sure Asus employs some damn good people who know what they're doing. It just seems from afar and from a layperson that the design team won some battles over the engineering team this time around.)
Is the M3 MacBook Air 15 a good laptop for a junior software developer? Obviously would upgrade RAM and SSD.
Perhaps even the M2 is a good buy for a decent discount.
Yes it is
@@JustJoshTechYou reply so quick ❤
By the time you upgrade the RAM and SSD, you’re not far off the M3 Pro 14 that has more ports and a better display. You could also get a refurbished M2 Pro 14 or even the 16.