I think the biggest takeaway from this is that a game 18 years later still has people searching for answers. This game is an absolute unrivaled masterpiece. Very few games keep this kind of following.
The fact it takes place in 1992 helps the suspension of disbelief. GTA 4 and 5, take place in 07 and 2013(?) Anyway. Everyone has a smartphone. How can I get away with any crimes?
@Mark L true. It definitely helps the atmosphere and builds a much more believable world. I'd personally love to see rockstar do another San Andreas style GTA in the future.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
My guess is CJ was driving with Brian and flipped the car, resulting in Brian's death which would make sense to why Ryder (I believe) says don't flip the car in one of the missions where you start by driving him, Smoke, and Sweet
I don't think so. He could've been adding on to the dialog from one of the earlier missions. They say something like " Cj be careful driving, I heard about how many cars you go through."
So we have another person who thinks that it could have been a car accident, great! 🙂 Your point about Ryder complaining about our driving seems quite valid 😉
With the information that's been given to us, I think that Brian's death is one of the most tragic deaths in GTA SA. Him and CJ having the most strongest bond in the story is honestly heartwarming. He loves Brian more than anything and when he died, he was so overwhelmed by guilt and grief that he ran away from home. It would be interesting to see if Rockstar ever decided to make a GTA SA Stories, we would get to see how Brian and CJ's relationship were .
It's implied in Carl's flashback during the first mission that Brian died when he was just a kid because CJ gave him a gun to practice and he accidentally shot himself (Beverly: "Oh my God what are you doing Carl, Brian, stop it!" CJ: "Quit it! Mom will hear" Kendl: "Mom they're up to something"). That's why everyone blames CJ for Brian's death and why he had to leave cause otherwise police could have arrested him for letting a minor have a gun. I doubt there's much of a story to tell about a simple incident.
@@the_sam_strong I would guess that CJ would have recently gotten his driver's license and took Brian out for a ride in Sweet's car, stopped at a shop so Brian could go get something for himself, Brian gets shot by the Ballas and CJ out of panic drives off.
They should absolutely make a prequel. But ethier way it is possible we will get some clues from GTA 6 seems R* makes references to soo many things in their games.
@@AgentDanielCross they never say the Ballas killed Brian always only that CJ let Brian die and CJ's flashback implies that Brian died because of an accident involving CJ, the gun thing makes more sense since CJ left the city soon after and also because of the voicelines CJ remembers as soon as he enters his house.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
If you read the rewrite version of this game, it actually has a flashback in 1987 on how Brian died. In that rewrite, CJ and Brian were going to the store in Idlewood (AKA Ballas' turf) even though their mother didn't want them over there when they were shot at by the Ballas and Brian was killed in the crossfire. It makes sense too since it matches what Kendl says in CJ's head during the storyline's beginning ("Mom! They're up to something!").
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
They definitely pressured cj to leave to liberty city i mean who would ran away from a funeral like that plus sweet is a hypocrite he didn't even cared a bit how much cj went through after green sabre mission sweet was a terrible leader gang was falling apart in his command
I wondered what CJs relationship with his mother was like..... I get the impression that Beverly liked Kendal and Brian but because Sweet & CJ were about the hood gang life she loved them obviously but still felt uneasy with their choices, may be reminding her that they are possibly like their absentee father who was probably a negative influence anyways.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Theory: Brian died of a drug overdose. That's why Sweet is so against drugs. CJ was the one babysitting him at the time, but being a typical 19 year old in charge of a 10 year old, wasn't keeping good enough eye on him, and wasn't able to get him to a hospital in time.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Actually I have a friend who grew up in Newark, who one time when he was 5years old accidentally ingested some of his uncle’s cocaine thinking it was sugar he almost died afterwards got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped. So Brian accidentally ingesting drugs while CJ was supposed to be babysitting him makes a lot of sense to me at least. My friend could’ve died if his uncle didn’t do the right thing and take him to the hospital immediately.
it's tough that they let his death be so ambiguous, it's easy to assume that his death was gang related like maybe the Ballas were trying to go after CJ but accidentally hit Brian, but they never really say that he was "killed", just that he died, so it could've been anything at that point
Well, it's true that the cause could be Ballas-related, but we can't fully guarantee that it was what happened :/ That's why we can't rule out other options, as far as they are possible to take into account.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Maybe CJ left a gun in place where Brian could easily find it, and by acident shot himself? CJ was drunk or high and since then he is always sober(he always refuse drinks in the cutscenes)
He was waiting for Sweet so he could finish the job he was supposed to do in eliminating Sweet. However, instead, CJ showed up, so Smoke had to play it off and act like he was protecting the house from an intruder and then greeted CJ.
Hello there Budwalker! Thank you for an interesting video suggestion, mate 😉 The thing is, we pretty much mentioned this matter in the video about early hints of Big Smoke's betrayal over here -> ua-cam.com/video/eZ9LODW07eo/v-deo.html To say it briefly, there is a high chance that Big Smoke knew about Ballas going to ambush Beverly's funeral. We would even say that he was going to stay here instead of going there, hoping that Sweet will get killed. And as someone else mentioned, he could be waiting in case Sweet survives the ambush and gets back. He didn't know that CJ was coming back to town, that's why he was surprised. 🙂
Both Tenpenny and CJ himself shared a statement about Brian's death: "CJ *let* Brian die". So, I assume, something happened. I don't think it was an accident, but maybe a confrontation with a rival gang. Maybe CJ and Brian got involved with the Ballas in some way, and they were cornered. CJ managed to escape, but Brian was left behind, and instead of trying to save Brian, CJ wasn't brave enough to risk his life to face the Ballas. Which explains why EVERYBODY at first called CJ "running man" or asked if he would "run away". He "ran away" from saving his little brother, and then ran away from the city after being called out on it.
This theory makes more sense compared to just an "Accident" happened involving Brian and Carl, it's almost believable tho but the line "LET Brian died, makes this theory more sensible.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
It could be that he fled because Sweet blamed CJ for Brian's death. Feeling guilty about Brian's death and fed up with Sweet's guilt tripping he fled town. His cup just ran over. He wanted to clear his head and start life anew. This worked well but Beverly's death ampilified his guilt, making him come back for good and putting in effort for the hood. We know Big Smoke was behind the failed assassination on Sweet. So while there are 5 years between Brian's and Beverly's death, it could be a idea long in the planning.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Considering all the attitude Sweet and the gang give CJ, I think maybe something happened that made it so that CJ couldn't help or save Brian (maybe he was hurt himself too badly) and everyone just blamed him anyway. Despite everything CJ does for Sweet and the gang throughout the game, they still never give CJ credit by the end and are hugely ungrateful.
FUN FACT: At the end of the game the credits roll.. most of those people are still alive and have social media accounts, if you can get them talking you learn a lot. Just dont come off as a reporter or use your official accounts to reach out lol ...they signed NDAs but hey, some rules are meant to be broken.
I think Brian was playing with CJ's gun which he accidently fired. This caused CJ to panic and flee to Liberty City. Sweet seems more upset at CJ than a Balla when it comes to Brian's death.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Ballas #1: What's all that noise? Brian Johnson is caught tagging on Ballas Turf in Idlewood. Ballas #2: Hey? Fuck you doin' tagging all on my turf, lil' nigga? Brian: CJ? Help me. Ballas #3: Get the fuck outta here, Grove Street Bitches. Brian: CJ? They got guns. Ballas #4: Shoot these motherfuckers. CJ: Come on, let's go. CJ and Brian run away while Ballas shooting at them but misses. Brian: Damn, that was close. CJ: Brian? I ain't rolling with you no more, you're going to get yourself killed on these streets. These streets are dangerous. You're too smart for this bullshit. Brian Johnson: Man, you can't tell me what to do. I'm helping Grove Street get back on it's feet again. Sweet was right about you, you're just a punk ass busta. Carl Johnson: What are you talking about, Brian? Brian Johnson: I don't wanna talk to you no more. I'm outta here. Carl Johnson: Brian? BRIAN? COME BACK HERE! At midnight. Beverly Johnson: Carl? Have you seen Brian? Carl Johnson: No! What's going on? Beverly Johnson: Brian hasn't been back home since. Where is he? Carl Johnson: Shit. I better go find him. You stay here, mom. I'll be right back. Carl Johnson finds Brian Johnson hanging out in East Los Santos tagging on Ballas Turf. Carl Johnson: Brian, what the fuck are you doing? Your mother's worried about you. Get your ass back home. Brian Johnson: Go away you Busta. Leave me alone, I'm working here. Carl Johnson: Why do you have a gun on you? Where'd you get that shit? Brian Johnson: Sweet gave it to me. Carl Johnson: Give it here! Brian Johnson: No! Carl Johnson: Give me the motherfuckin' gun or you gone hurt somebody. Brian and CJ wrestling over the gun. Brian accidentally shoots himself in the foot and bystanders run away scared. Carl Johnson: I can't believe it! I told you not to get into this bullshit, Brian. Now I'm gonna have to take you to the Hospital now. Brian Johnson: You shot me in my foot. You're a psycho. Carl Johnson: Don't blame me. You shot yourself, I tried to take the gun off you and you wouldn't listen, nigga. Brian Johnson: Man, fuck you, CJ. Ballas #1: Hey, remember those motherfuckers? Ballas #2: That's the same motherfucker who tagged in my hood. Ballas #3: Hell yeah, nigga. Let's smoke those motherfuckers. Brian and CJ witnessed Ballas driving their cars preparing for a drive-by shooting. Ballas #1: THIS KILO TRAY, MOTHERFUCKER! *Lots of gunfire heard from the drive-by shooting. CJ runs for cover and kills Brian Johnson with 3 shots to his chest and one shot to his face. Ballas #2: Balla 4 Life, motherfucker! Ballas #3: Fuck Grove Street, nigga. Carl Johnson cries over Brian's dead body as paramedics arrive 10 minutes later. Bystanders watching as CJ continues crying like a baby. The LSPD cover the murder scene in yellow tape and Brian's dead body has a white chalk outline for evidence. Ralph Pendelbury watches on CJ crying.
Agreed! The information given in these lore/myth videos is always so interesting. I’m a huge GTA fan and look for this stuff myself in game, but there’s always stuff I miss and learn through his content.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Smoke only started betraying the Grove because of Sweet's bad leadership leading to gang members becoming poor and Smoke didn't want to sink with the ship. Before that he was like a family member to the Johnson's. Besides it seems to be implied in Carl's flashback during the first mission that Brian died when he was just a kid because CJ gave him a gun to practice and he accidentally shot himself (Beverly: "Oh my God what are you doing Carl, Brian, stop it!" CJ: "Quit it! Mom will hear" Kendl: "Mom they're up to something"). That's why everyone blames CJ for Brian's death and why he had to leave cause otherwise police could have arrested him for letting a minor have a gun.
That’s not Beverly’s voice who tells Carl and Brian to stop it it’s kendl. It doesn’t make any sense for the mother to tell them to stop it and the very next line is CJ saying quit it moms will hear
That sounds like an interesting scenario! 🤔 However, we gotta admit that shooting himself seems very unlikely even in the case of a 10-year-old who was already familiar with what his brothers are doing...
@@gaminginvestigators the rapper lil Wayne accidentally shot himself when he was a teen. Perhaps he got careless and CJ didn't teach him well how to handle a gun and that happened, that's why Carl feels so guilty for his death.
To be honest, not answering all questions fully or even leaving some things completely in the dark, is what makes gta, or in this case san andreas so great. Leaving some things up to the players/ fanbase and their imagination is what I love about san andreas
That's a good point 😃 However, we don't think that he had to be interested in the crack to betray his homies much earlier, especially considering that Tenpenny was already in charge. 🤔
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
I still wish we had San Andreas Stories in hopes that we can get more answers in regards to Brian. I highly recommend everyone to watch Kenny Paas San Andreas Prequel Story as it’s really good.
I think we would've played as Ralph Pendelbury, the officer who was killed by C.R.A.S.H in the introduction. We probably would've known more about the police corruption and how Tenpenny built his drug farm, by of course getting to know more about the ballas and the vagos aswell
@@gomlekadamplaying as Ralph pendelburry or playing as a cop in a GTA game won't make sense since GTA games usually has players play as the robbers of cops and robbers since GTA protagonists are mainly gangsters. A GTA San Andreas stories would probably have you play as a GSF member who wasn't mentioned in GTA San Andreas, and like CJ, this gsf member also managed to experience life outside the hood by traveling to San fierro and las Venturas
This game sure has people looking for the last pieces to the puzzle 18 yrs later. But I can only imagine if Brian was alive, and was a living character with CJ on San Andreas, it would have been a whole different game.
I live in brazil and one thing which happens a lot in criminal confrotations are loose bullets. Ones who go far from their target and hit someone else. As it is mentioned as a "accident" brian's death was probably not intentional. And CJ taking the fault can be connected to he being with brian ATM. One possible thing is CJ going to hang with brian outside grove street territory as Gorve was stronger before. In a attempted ambush of CJ brian took the bullet making CJ get the fault of putting him in the wrong place at the wrong time
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Another plot twist..... LB = Leslie benzies One of the early people who worked on Gta games and it's a tribute / easter egg. Of if you know snoop dogg from the lbc Long Beach california
Well, the problem with applying this age to Maria is the fact that she is much older in appearance in GTA 3 already... So it's impossible to say that she was 25 because of GTA San Andreas :/
@@gaminginvestigators well, her story was fully rewritten. She was not a waitress but a 25 years old dancer in Luigi’s Club where she tried to earn money for studying and met Salvatore, who made her his trophy girl, locked her in house, she later realised his dark nature of old violent scumbag, tyrant, sadistic and psychopath and tried to escape from her tragic situation. Her appearance in SA and LCS doesn’t make any sense because in US underaged people (
I think 10 year old Brian Johnson was accidentally killed in a Ballas drive-by shooting that was meant to kill CJ. Brian didn't know how to use a gun but accidentally shot himself in the foot.
Brian ODed. (Overdosed) And here's my reason As soon as CJ enters his house and looks around he hears Kendall's voice echoing in his head indicating that was probably his last moment before Brian died and it makes sense that Brian died at home because why would CJ remember those very last sentences that were said between him and Kendall . Which moves on to my next point with Kendall saying "Mom they're up to something." What would CJ and Brian try to hide from everyone because their mom knows that they're involved in gang activity so pretty much that would lead to they're mom thinking "well at least they're smoking pot instead of doing any other hard drug out there" which would lead to my next Point why does sweet have a strong positions against hard drugs while the rest of the other sets Seville family Boulevard and Temple Drive are very lack about it? Because that was probably the cause of Brian's death and why sweet made the decision of not pushing yay and why the 2 other sets beefed and split with the Grove. Because they Seville and Temple wanted to sell. So pretty much in what I can reconstruct in my head CJ came home with some hard drug so pretty much either heroin or cocaine Brian walks into CJ's room and CJ lets him in on the secret and so he does it with CJ Brian is doing more than he really should Kendall walks in sees what's going on and this leads to the interaction between Kendall and CJ that Echoes In CJ's head in the beginning of the game so CJ goes after Kendall to stop her from snitching on him and leads Brian alone with the cocaine Brian sniffs a lot of it and ODS CJ comes back and sees Brian convulse and violently to the cocaine and it's probably filming from the mouth CJ is panicking and the convulsing stops Brian is Motionless. Kendall Witnesses this and screens and panics sweet also hears Kendall screams CJ runs out of the house. So pretty much yeah Brian probably OD'd
Interesting approach 🤔 So you think that the whole event took place in the house instead of the street, huh? We can't say that it's impossible, for sure. We must admit that we are surprised by your saying that a 10-year-old boy could use drugs at that age. 🤔 Well, we know that Ryder was dealing drugs since the age of 10, but it's shocking to hear that such a kid could take them. Moreover, we can't really imagine CJ giving Brian hard drugs like crack or PCP, that would be so irresponsible! Funny enough, the phrase "quit it" actually can be applied to a situation where someone ends up smoking 🤔 However, there is one thing that might destroy this theory instantly. As you probably remember, during the episode we mentioned that there was supposed to be a line of dialogue from Beverly Johnson in this particular cutscene. "Brian! Carl! Quit fighting, and go wash your hands!"
@@gaminginvestigators CJ was babysitting him at the time. It wasn't necessarily that he had direct involvement, it's that he was under CJ's care at the time. Maybe Bev was at work or something
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
@@gaminginvestigators bro whassup? the theory about drug overdose really can be true. Yeah beverly said about fighting but that was in beta, so rockstar removed dialogue so that brian death cause was drugs. Also, Beverly could be upstairs while brothers downstairs, maybe beverly was tired and thought they were fıghting. Also if Brian really have had some beefs with cj, then Kendl did not say that they are up to SOMETHING( She would say that they are fighting) . I guess he was killed by ballas, but drug overdose can not be ruled out ( it also explains why CJ and Sweet are so against drugs).
Cj mentions his dad to Joey in the prologue in liberty city. He called him after stealing someone’s vehicle and Joey was talking about Salvatore. Cj stated that he never met his dad nor knew anything about him.
Has to be ballas related. Maybe CJ and Brain were instigating a fight with some Ballas then it ended with Brian dead. I think CJ was already with the grove street families but I’m not sure Brian was part of the gang since he was so young.
We are not sure either :/ But we do remember that in "South Central" from 1992, the son of the main character was committing some crimes so it is possible 🤔 As for the Ballas, we also feel that it's very likely that they were involved in this...
It has to be Ballas cause who else would have beef with them? We don’t really see Grove street and Vagos or any other gang have bad blood so it has to be Ballas.
Yeah, maybe CJ took Brian with himself and foolingly stepped into Ballas' territory inflicting shootout where Brian was wounded and *a)* left dying after CJ ran away fearing of his life or *b)* taken home by CJ where he left Brian's body and then drove away letting his family know that he (CJ) was responsible for what happened. This tragedy was so impactful that CJ decided to get out of Los Santos with all his grief.
@@mixaconor a ballas member tried to shoot cj from behind. Brian saw the ballas member trying to shoot cj so Brian sacrificed himself by blocking the bullet with his own body
They were probably messing around and sneaking out to go score in a business burglary, or hit up a party. Something went wrong, perhaps a drive by shooting and Brian was offed as CJ took cover or fled. Or the police showed up and the two tried to make a break for it, only for Brian to be hit by a car or even the train.
Poor Brian, I'm one too but with a Y. When I saw the cutscenes talking about Brian it threw me off and then I felt bad for CJ and his family but later then called him Brian Griffin and continued listening to Radio Los Santos lol
Damn, I forgot how f’ed up gangs truly are. Either fatally shooting or beating to death a CC 10 year old. Smh also this games seems a bit all over the place about Brian. A 10 year old is not a teenager
@@brandonethereal1084 that’s what I’m thinking. But after reading Cj was born in 68 and Brian in 77. Cj was 24 during the evens/gameplay of San Andreas making him 19 when Brian died. They were 9 years apart based off of the year they were born according to wiki and other bio links for them. But emmitt made it seem like they were around the same age when got them confused
@@ladytionne1 Hmmm interesting..... It just seemed like Brian would be old enough to put in alot of work in the gang. A 10 year can be active in a set, but I thought it would've made more sense if Brian was much older, already having notoriety in the GSF.💯💯
I think it was a car accident that killed Brian based on in game dialogue from other characters about CJ’s driving. Even if it is also an inside joke about GTA players being terrible drivers.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Rockstar said that There would have been a San Andreas Stories but the GTA SA Introduction film already explained everything perfectly so there was no need for a prequel.
Big smoke wanted to get into drug dealing and said their principals are Making them weak while the ballas are Profiting from drug dealing , hence why They wanted to knock off sweet . They figured killing Beverly would bring Back carl from liberty city and all throughout the game crash had cj kill People that could testify and put them away for long time .
in my opinion big smoke wasn't cuz i feel like he started to betray the groves at the drive thru mission he wasn't shooting and ate Ryders food i think he did it so he had a reason to not shoot so maybe he would already be with the ballas already he had years to do it
Rockstar really dropping the ball not making peace with young maylay and doing San Andreas stories! It could be centered around Brian, GsF, Cj in liberty. Do they not realize IT'LL SELL🙃😂Seriously that'd be fun af
It is amazing to me that 18 years later, we are all trying to break down and analyze the plot and storylines for a fucking VIDEO GAME! That is how truly great this game was and still is... I just recently started playing again, I still have a working PS2 with copies of San Andreas and Vice City, I believe this is my 837, 648th time playing through lol In the now known about deleted conversation with CJ and Big Bear, Bear says Sweet didn't do shit while the gang splintered, but of course when CJ comes back suddenly he's all hung up about CJ proving he's loyal by taking the hood back... It makes me wonder, is there anyone in this game who doesn't use CJ? Tenpenny, Toreno, Salvatore Leone, even his own brother... Woozie and Cesar seem to be his only real friends.
Brian's death being caused by the ballas with Big smoke's involvement makes the most sense,Cause it confirms what kendl says at the end of san andreas that smoke was always out for himself
It just seems like when your looking to find deeper meanings within certain parts of the game rather than seeing it as or accepting it in its final form is more like the base of this video is in some ways like making things up as you go along making up a story that isn't there or guessing at possible clues that might not always mean the same thing to the creator of the game is a fifty fifty scenario were either very small details are true or or recreated as guess answers wether untrue or half true the game maker might just have added some details at random just fill in a pretend back story to keep gamers curious or to help promote the game basically searching for answers that might mean something different unless rockstar tell you thereself it would be difficult to determine true meanings to unfinished or cut scenes or images from this game.. don't get me wrong tho the video definitely captures intrested and is good I'm not a hater I just wish rockstar would confirm or tell us what they mean or like it is in movies back when people buy dvd some with come with extra features like behind the scenes , cut scenes or the making .. just as an extra thing to view when you purchase games , usually when things are cut out it could either be because it is inappropriate or because it wouldn't make sense in the final story or lack of space or is felt that certain parts were just plain unnecessary 🤔
Kind of unrelated here, but I have a theory, maybe it could sound legit it you, maybe not. But here it is. I wonder if the alley that Tenpenny and Pulaski threw CJ out of the car at the beginning of the game was the same alley that Brian died in. Cuz CJ said “ah shit, here we go again” once he realizes he’s in the alley. Well, for him to say that, it kind of sounds like something bad had happened to him/somebody else in that same alley. By him saying the quote “ah shit, here we go again. Worst place in the world” doesn’t that kind of sound like he has some sort of PTSD from being in that alley? Maybe Tenpenny and Pulaski threw him out at that particular alley to remind him that that’s the place where he let his little brother die.
i assume that CJ and Brian were very close and Brian was rolling with CJ at the time of his death hence why he was blamed, the big brother couldnt protect the little brother, and in black communities children as young as 10 are still pretty much referred too and considered babies still, so you can imagine how bad it looked that CJ allowed his baby brother to be killed, when he was not only a popular gang member but the brother of Sweet himself who was already a LS O.G, but people forget CJ would have been a teenager himself at the time, he would still be naive and childish but that sort of behaviour is not befitting of a well known gangster. edit: i think its important to also add that i dont think Smoke is in any way responsible for CJ's mothers death however he played stupid and acted like he didnt know who did the act or why, when in fact he did!, I believe this is due to Sweets policy on selling crack like stated in the video, Smoke was involved in the murder plot on Sweet, in a means to get him out of the way, that way Smoke being 2nd in command would be free to use groove to move dope, I also think CRASH planned to protect Smoke by covering up the attack as Smoke is a valuable asset, hence why they covered up the green sabre - this is proven correct like stated in the video, when Tenpenny told CJ gang loyalty is overrated vand polaski stated that Smoke does as he is told, that was a clear reference to Smoke betraying the groove to work with the Ballas, a partnership I also believe CRASH facilitated and ultimately engineered
I thought it was something more typical like Groove Street having issues with another family. Big Smoke set CJ up to be gun down because the Police wanted to cause more tension between the groups. Brian was with CJ at a location and got caught in the crossfire CJ feeling guilty and pressure of Brian's death leaves the town.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Rock star should do an alternative scenario game of San Andreas where CJ Never Returns To Los Santos And Stays in Liberty City and When Sweet Calls Him to tell him that their mom died He Blames Sweet For Her Death Just Like Sweet Blames CJ For Brian's Death,In Liberty City He Works With The Leones and is accepted as the first non italian mob soldier which results in a war with the other families and sicilians, that the Leones Win and CJ Becomes A Capo In The End.
4:14 when you sweet cant get out of jail bec of tenpenny, me (cj) risked my life, robbed the military, killed and hijacked on multiple occasions just to get u out of jail. while even giving bread to kendl and securing a future for them.
Someone mentioned that Brian could’ve died from a drug overdose while CJ was supposed to be watching him and I personally agree. In fact I have a friend who grew up in Newark, who one time when he was 5years old accidentally ingested some of his uncle’s cocaine thinking it was sugar he almost died afterwards got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped. So Brian accidentally ingesting drugs while CJ was supposed to be babysitting him makes a lot of sense to me at least. My friend could’ve died if his uncle didn’t do the right thing and take him to the hospital immediately. So CJ not wanting law trouble or perhaps panicking straight up abandons Brian to die alone overdosing in pain. It really makes CJ being exiled make more sense and it does make it 100% CJs fault, also it would explain Sweets adamance in refusing to touch drugs. I know a 10 year old is smarter than a 5 year old but I could still see a 10 year old either accidentally ingesting drugs or purposely taking them trying to impress someone who he looked up to (possibly Smoke) that was taking them. Idk I might just be talking crazy but that’s my theory lmk if you have any thoughts.
What happened to CJ after GTA San Andreas my theory is that CJ is still living in Los Santos out of loyalty to his brother Sweet and the rest of the Grove Street Families. At the very end of the game, Carl is a young and wealthy man. His assets and business interests include the Grove Street Families gang and Madd Dogg's contract in Los Santos, a car garage and several other properties in San Fierro, and shares in the Four Dragons Casino in Las Venturas so I see CJ buying out Sweet and Kendl and is living in the Johnson House got married and have children of his own. Mostly likely Mike Toreno would of talk CJ into returning the government's $60 million jetpack.
Carl Johnson is a TRUE brother and it's so sad that Brian died at the age of 10. I mean, CJ killed more than 20 men in that Cr*ck fortress and that's a true bro & true GTA protagonist. By the way, great video Gaming Investigators 👏👏👏👏
It could have been that Brian saw Big Smoke talking with TenPenny or something he saw something he shouldn`t have seen. And it lead his tragic death at a young age which was no doubt carried out by big smoke or ten penny.
@@gaminginvestigators If Brian was murdered then he possibly could have had a hand in it. But if it was a car accident he died in then TenPenny would’ve had more to do with it. Smoke wouldn’t know how to make a car accident look like an “accident”.
people like to theorise and make things bigger than they already are. Let's say that Brian died like how most young man die in the ghetto which resulted to CJ moving to the East because he was tired of that way of life and that's it.
What if cj was trying to kill one head leaders of a gang with Brian but it took a wrong turn and Brian was killed and in the last mission that’s y he tells sweet to stay behind cause that’s how Brian was killed
I think he got killed when the ballers rolled thru the Cul-de-sac and did a drive by trying to get CJ and Sweet. He probably was outside playing when they came through shooting
GAMING INVESTIGATORS: Brian died at the age of 10. Also, GAMING INVESTIGATORS: He was a teenager. So, you gotta be 12 to be someone's great-great grandma?
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that feels more like a 4th wallbreak about GTA players driving like maniacs rather than an actual story point, plus Ryder says something along the lines of the east coast made him drive like a fool, meaning Carl was only noticeably bad when he came back
well Tenpenny might have wanted to mess with CJ's mind kendle said about the same thing in King in Exile mission so there might be something to that idea CJ was driven out of Las Santos by the Familyas for his mom's Funeral CJ was not even in town so Sweet could not claim he ran away from that one
I started a new save on San Andreas today and remember when CJ went to the house the same scene same as you picked the wrong house fool and then the flashback audio thing happened and then I heard the name Brian so then I decided to Google Brian and then I found out he died and then i UA-cam searched him and then this video from 5 hours ago pops up and I'm like perfect timing then I write this comment but as I was writing this comment I thought I would ask if you could make a video of a we didn't start the fire parody about the events of every GTA game that would be so interesting well I'm done with my rambling time to actually watch the thing
@thestrong2401 4 months ago (edited) The real story of how he died is that CJ was smoking weed and left Brian who was just a kid practice shooting with his gun ("mom they're up to something" "what are you doing carl, brian stop it!" "Quit it mom will hear you") and Brian accidentally shot himself and died. Carl was blamed for his death of course and for both the shame and to avoid jail for the possession of an illegal weapon Carl left Los Santos and went to Liberty City and swore he would have never touched any type of drugs ever again (that's why in gta san andreas he's so against drugs and even gets angry at the truth one time when he asks him if he wants to smoke). this makes more sense, there is no way kids die for gangbanging, that wouldnt make sense.
I think the biggest takeaway from this is that a game 18 years later still has people searching for answers. This game is an absolute unrivaled masterpiece. Very few games keep this kind of following.
You're absolutely right, man 🙂
The fact it takes place in 1992 helps the suspension of disbelief. GTA 4 and 5, take place in 07 and 2013(?) Anyway. Everyone has a smartphone. How can I get away with any crimes?
@Mark L true. It definitely helps the atmosphere and builds a much more believable world. I'd personally love to see rockstar do another San Andreas style GTA in the future.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
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My guess is CJ was driving with Brian and flipped the car, resulting in Brian's death which would make sense to why Ryder (I believe) says don't flip the car in one of the missions where you start by driving him, Smoke, and Sweet
I don't think so. He could've been adding on to the dialog from one of the earlier missions. They say something like " Cj be careful driving, I heard about how many cars you go through."
He just bailed from the car and said fuck
So we have another person who thinks that it could have been a car accident, great! 🙂 Your point about Ryder complaining about our driving seems quite valid 😉
@@Hawkeyes319 That's more of making fun of the player due to reckless driving in GTA games.
nonsense. if that's the case, then we wont be driving at all with missions with Grove St OGs, because they wont have the trust in us driving
With the information that's been given to us, I think that Brian's death is one of the most tragic deaths in GTA SA. Him and CJ having the most strongest bond in the story is honestly heartwarming. He loves Brian more than anything and when he died, he was so overwhelmed by guilt and grief that he ran away from home. It would be interesting to see if Rockstar ever decided to make a GTA SA Stories, we would get to see how Brian and CJ's relationship were .
Not really because it's not in the game most gamer won't care so it's has lost and d
It's implied in Carl's flashback during the first mission that Brian died when he was just a kid because CJ gave him a gun to practice and he accidentally shot himself (Beverly: "Oh my God what are you doing Carl, Brian, stop it!" CJ: "Quit it! Mom will hear" Kendl: "Mom they're up to something"). That's why everyone blames CJ for Brian's death and why he had to leave cause otherwise police could have arrested him for letting a minor have a gun. I doubt there's much of a story to tell about a simple incident.
@@the_sam_strong I would guess that CJ would have recently gotten his driver's license and took Brian out for a ride in Sweet's car, stopped at a shop so Brian could go get something for himself, Brian gets shot by the Ballas and CJ out of panic drives off.
They should absolutely make a prequel. But ethier way it is possible we will get some clues from GTA 6 seems R* makes references to soo many things in their games.
@@AgentDanielCross they never say the Ballas killed Brian always only that CJ let Brian die and CJ's flashback implies that Brian died because of an accident involving CJ, the gun thing makes more sense since CJ left the city soon after and also because of the voicelines CJ remembers as soon as he enters his house.
I never realized how impactful Brian’s death was for the story. I always saw it as some backstory that didn’t matter a whole lot
Yeah, at first glance, it doesn't seem like something important in the lore but later on, you realize that it was quite a big thing 🙂
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
If you read the rewrite version of this game, it actually has a flashback in 1987 on how Brian died. In that rewrite, CJ and Brian were going to the store in Idlewood (AKA Ballas' turf) even though their mother didn't want them over there when they were shot at by the Ballas and Brian was killed in the crossfire. It makes sense too since it matches what Kendl says in CJ's head during the storyline's beginning ("Mom! They're up to something!").
Where/how’d you find that rewrite?
Very interesting scenario, Terry! 🤔
So it's fanfiction
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
What "rewrite version"?
They definitely pressured cj to leave to liberty city i mean who would ran away from a funeral like that plus sweet is a hypocrite he didn't even cared a bit how much cj went through after green sabre mission sweet was a terrible leader gang was falling apart in his command
It's funny how Sweet is always getting on CJ for his lack of effort in the hood even though he doesn't do much himself either
@@Slick5150 ikr so childish despite being the eldest sibling
Sweet is the worse gang leader/ mob boss in the franchise.
Even Diaz is better than him.
While cj gathered better weapons with ryder and started making money without dealing crack
That's really sad 😦
I wondered what CJs relationship with his mother was like..... I get the impression that Beverly liked Kendal and Brian but because Sweet & CJ were about the hood gang life she loved them obviously but still felt uneasy with their choices, may be reminding her that they are possibly like their absentee father who was probably a negative influence anyways.
Yeah, sadly it might be extremely hard to determine what was CJ's relationship with his mother like :/
@@gaminginvestigators Have you tried reaching out to Young Maylay for his take? He may be under NDA tho.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Theory: Brian died of a drug overdose. That's why Sweet is so against drugs. CJ was the one babysitting him at the time, but being a typical 19 year old in charge of a 10 year old, wasn't keeping good enough eye on him, and wasn't able to get him to a hospital in time.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
@somehow138some kids can be manipulated to that, especially people you look up to. Realistic but tragic.
@somehow138 A man in my family joined a gang at 10, it's actually not uncommon for young kids to be exposed to this sort of thing.
no Brian died during a unrelated gang incident. and CJ personally blamed himself
Actually I have a friend who grew up in Newark, who one time when he was 5years old accidentally ingested some of his uncle’s cocaine thinking it was sugar he almost died afterwards got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped.
So Brian accidentally ingesting drugs while CJ was supposed to be babysitting him makes a lot of sense to me at least. My friend could’ve died if his uncle didn’t do the right thing and take him to the hospital immediately.
it's tough that they let his death be so ambiguous, it's easy to assume that his death was gang related like maybe the Ballas were trying to go after CJ but accidentally hit Brian, but they never really say that he was "killed", just that he died, so it could've been anything at that point
Well, it's true that the cause could be Ballas-related, but we can't fully guarantee that it was what happened :/ That's why we can't rule out other options, as far as they are possible to take into account.
They do say he was killed
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Maybe CJ left a gun in place where Brian could easily find it, and by acident shot himself? CJ was drunk or high and since then he is always sober(he always refuse drinks in the cutscenes)
He drinks with his girlfriend at the hood bar
If I'm not mistaken, Carl also accepts a drink from Woozie in "Fish In A Barrel" cutscene
Sure thing! That's why accidents can't be ruled out really (although we feel that Ballas trap seems more likely) 😃
maybe that's why there's a Normal Pistol at the back of the top-left house in grove street, or probably the Micro SMG at the roof of Sweet's
More than likely a gang scuffle that got Brian killed. Maybe CJ was heading to help him and didn't make it in time
Can you make a video on why Smoke was in CJ’s house in the beginning of the game? While Sweet, Ryder, and Kendal were at the Funeral.
Im sure because he knew CJ was coming so he wanted to greet him
BS was there because he was waiting for Sweet to come back so he could kill him to take over Grove Street
He was waiting for Sweet so he could finish the job he was supposed to do in eliminating Sweet. However, instead, CJ showed up, so Smoke had to play it off and act like he was protecting the house from an intruder and then greeted CJ.
Hello there Budwalker! Thank you for an interesting video suggestion, mate 😉 The thing is, we pretty much mentioned this matter in the video about early hints of Big Smoke's betrayal over here -> ua-cam.com/video/eZ9LODW07eo/v-deo.html To say it briefly, there is a high chance that Big Smoke knew about Ballas going to ambush Beverly's funeral. We would even say that he was going to stay here instead of going there, hoping that Sweet will get killed. And as someone else mentioned, he could be waiting in case Sweet survives the ambush and gets back. He didn't know that CJ was coming back to town, that's why he was surprised. 🙂
Because big smoke lived there at the time
That's why cj asked smoke why did you move out of the Grove
10 year old kid isn't a teenager
you shermhead
Yeah you right
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That was the VERY 1st flag 🤦🏿♂️
False info 🤣😆
@@kwajotube no 13 years old is teenager
Both Tenpenny and CJ himself shared a statement about Brian's death: "CJ *let* Brian die".
So, I assume, something happened. I don't think it was an accident, but maybe a confrontation with a rival gang. Maybe CJ and Brian got involved with the Ballas in some way, and they were cornered. CJ managed to escape, but Brian was left behind, and instead of trying to save Brian, CJ wasn't brave enough to risk his life to face the Ballas.
Which explains why EVERYBODY at first called CJ "running man" or asked if he would "run away". He "ran away" from saving his little brother, and then ran away from the city after being called out on it.
Yeah, this is really in favor of the theory that CJ and Brian were trapped by Ballas 😦
And they always call him a Busta
This theory makes more sense compared to just an "Accident" happened involving Brian and Carl, it's almost believable tho but the line "LET Brian died, makes this theory more sensible.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
It could be that he fled because Sweet blamed CJ for Brian's death.
Feeling guilty about Brian's death and fed up with Sweet's guilt tripping he fled town. His cup just ran over. He wanted to clear his head and start life anew. This worked well but Beverly's death ampilified his guilt, making him come back for good and putting in effort for the hood.
We know Big Smoke was behind the failed assassination on Sweet. So while there are 5 years between Brian's and Beverly's death, it could be a idea long in the planning.
That's true 👍
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Considering all the attitude Sweet and the gang give CJ, I think maybe something happened that made it so that CJ couldn't help or save Brian (maybe he was hurt himself too badly) and everyone just blamed him anyway. Despite everything CJ does for Sweet and the gang throughout the game, they still never give CJ credit by the end and are hugely ungrateful.
Rockstar can make so much money if they made a spinoff focusing on Brian story and how cj ended up in liberty’ city.
GTA San Andreas Stories
That's true!
FUN FACT: At the end of the game the credits roll.. most of those people are still alive and have social media accounts, if you can get them talking you learn a lot. Just dont come off as a reporter or use your official accounts to reach out lol ...they signed NDAs but hey, some rules are meant to be broken.
I think Brian was playing with CJ's gun which he accidently fired. This caused CJ to panic and flee to Liberty City. Sweet seems more upset at CJ than a Balla when it comes to Brian's death.
This is quite interesting that many people are bringing up the theory that Brian was playing with a gun 🤔
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Ballas #1: What's all that noise?
Brian Johnson is caught tagging on Ballas Turf in Idlewood.
Ballas #2: Hey? Fuck you doin' tagging all on my turf, lil' nigga?
Brian: CJ? Help me.
Ballas #3: Get the fuck outta here, Grove Street Bitches.
Brian: CJ? They got guns.
Ballas #4: Shoot these motherfuckers.
CJ: Come on, let's go.
CJ and Brian run away while Ballas shooting at them but misses.
Brian: Damn, that was close.
CJ: Brian? I ain't rolling with you no more, you're going to get yourself killed on these streets. These streets are dangerous. You're too smart for this bullshit.
Brian Johnson: Man, you can't tell me what to do. I'm helping Grove Street get back on it's feet again. Sweet was right about you, you're just a punk ass busta.
Carl Johnson: What are you talking about, Brian?
Brian Johnson: I don't wanna talk to you no more. I'm outta here.
Carl Johnson: Brian? BRIAN? COME BACK HERE!
At midnight.
Beverly Johnson: Carl? Have you seen Brian?
Carl Johnson: No! What's going on?
Beverly Johnson: Brian hasn't been back home since. Where is he?
Carl Johnson: Shit. I better go find him. You stay here, mom. I'll be right back.
Carl Johnson finds Brian Johnson hanging out in East Los Santos tagging on Ballas Turf.
Carl Johnson: Brian, what the fuck are you doing? Your mother's worried about you. Get your ass back home.
Brian Johnson: Go away you Busta. Leave me alone, I'm working here.
Carl Johnson: Why do you have a gun on you? Where'd you get that shit?
Brian Johnson: Sweet gave it to me.
Carl Johnson: Give it here!
Brian Johnson: No!
Carl Johnson: Give me the motherfuckin' gun or you gone hurt somebody.
Brian and CJ wrestling over the gun. Brian accidentally shoots himself in the foot and bystanders run away scared.
Carl Johnson: I can't believe it! I told you not to get into this bullshit, Brian. Now I'm gonna have to take you to the Hospital now.
Brian Johnson: You shot me in my foot. You're a psycho.
Carl Johnson: Don't blame me. You shot yourself, I tried to take the gun off you and you wouldn't listen, nigga.
Brian Johnson: Man, fuck you, CJ.
Ballas #1: Hey, remember those motherfuckers?
Ballas #2: That's the same motherfucker who tagged in my hood.
Ballas #3: Hell yeah, nigga. Let's smoke those motherfuckers.
Brian and CJ witnessed Ballas driving their cars preparing for a drive-by shooting.
Ballas #1: THIS KILO TRAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
*Lots of gunfire heard from the drive-by shooting. CJ runs for cover and kills Brian Johnson with 3 shots to his chest and one shot to his face.
Ballas #2: Balla 4 Life, motherfucker!
Ballas #3: Fuck Grove Street, nigga.
Carl Johnson cries over Brian's dead body as paramedics arrive 10 minutes later.
Bystanders watching as CJ continues crying like a baby. The LSPD cover the murder scene in yellow tape and Brian's dead body has a white chalk outline for evidence.
Ralph Pendelbury watches on CJ crying.
Age of 10 is not teen dude, he was still a kid
And people were saying they wanted him to be the protagonist of GTA SAS lol
I would have expected him to be a little older like maybe 15 or 16. Yeah, ten would have been too young to be a protagonist of a SAS
@@kakacoco5 even 15 and 16 is too young, again below 18 is underage
@@gomlekadam the game is 17+
@@Raymations bully literally has no murdering my dude
Most people on internet said that Brian was born in 1971
You see Emmet in _Nines & AKs_ mistake CJ for Brian. It could be that the Ballas or anyone who killed Brian thought it was CJ
Exactly, Tommy! And judging by the fact they looked similar besides the age gap, it was easy to mistake both of them.
Emmitt also is old and probably has both
Vision and memory problems.
I makes sense to why Brian’s death or character wasn’t shown in the game’s story seeing as how he’s under age and we never see kids in the game.
Love the consistency. One of the best GTA content creators out there. 🙌
Agreed! The information given in these lore/myth videos is always so interesting. I’m a huge GTA fan and look for this stuff myself in game, but there’s always stuff I miss and learn through his content.
GTA related content, not exactly GTA content
We are happy to hear that, Asuka! ☺
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Smoke only started betraying the Grove because of Sweet's bad leadership leading to gang members becoming poor and Smoke didn't want to sink with the ship. Before that he was like a family member to the Johnson's. Besides it seems to be implied in Carl's flashback during the first mission that Brian died when he was just a kid because CJ gave him a gun to practice and he accidentally shot himself (Beverly: "Oh my God what are you doing Carl, Brian, stop it!" CJ: "Quit it! Mom will hear" Kendl: "Mom they're up to something"). That's why everyone blames CJ for Brian's death and why he had to leave cause otherwise police could have arrested him for letting a minor have a gun.
That’s not Beverly’s voice who tells Carl and Brian to stop it it’s kendl. It doesn’t make any sense for the mother to tell them to stop it and the very next line is CJ saying quit it moms will hear
@@jabroni7706 yeah true assuming the voice lines are in correct order in CJ's flashback, anyway the implication still stands
@@the_sam_strong Not even just that, it’s literally the exact same female voice in both lines lol
That sounds like an interesting scenario! 🤔 However, we gotta admit that shooting himself seems very unlikely even in the case of a 10-year-old who was already familiar with what his brothers are doing...
@@gaminginvestigators the rapper lil Wayne accidentally shot himself when he was a teen. Perhaps he got careless and CJ didn't teach him well how to handle a gun and that happened, that's why Carl feels so guilty for his death.
To be honest, not answering all questions fully or even leaving some things completely in the dark, is what makes gta, or in this case san andreas so great. Leaving some things up to the players/ fanbase and their imagination is what I love about san andreas
1:28 Not gonna lie, this is the first time I heard of anyone referring a 10 year-old as a teenager
I don't think big Smoke is involved in brians death , he became crack dealer only few months before cj's mom's death
That's a good point 😃 However, we don't think that he had to be interested in the crack to betray his homies much earlier, especially considering that Tenpenny was already in charge. 🤔
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
I still wish we had San Andreas Stories in hopes that we can get more answers in regards to Brian.
I highly recommend everyone to watch Kenny Paas San Andreas Prequel Story as it’s really good.
I would love you learn more about him and the homie, LB.
I think we would've played as Ralph Pendelbury, the officer who was killed by C.R.A.S.H in the introduction.
We probably would've known more about the police corruption and how Tenpenny built his drug farm, by of course getting to know more about the ballas and the vagos aswell
@@gomlekadam interesting although from gameplay perspective, his death has to believable despite the player’s skills.
We would be delighted if Rockstar Games decided to continue the 3D universe by making San Andreas Stories! 🙁
@@gomlekadamplaying as Ralph pendelburry or playing as a cop in a GTA game won't make sense since GTA games usually has players play as the robbers of cops and robbers since GTA protagonists are mainly gangsters. A GTA San Andreas stories would probably have you play as a GSF member who wasn't mentioned in GTA San Andreas, and like CJ, this gsf member also managed to experience life outside the hood by traveling to San fierro and las Venturas
Lmao if Brian was 10 when he died he wasn't a teenage, 13 is when a person reaches their teen years.
This game sure has people looking for the last pieces to the puzzle 18 yrs later. But I can only imagine if Brian was alive, and was a living character with CJ on San Andreas, it would have been a whole different game.
It's a real shame that Rockstar North didn't decide to show what happened to Brian in the Introduction movie 😦
There's an alternate timeline where san andreas stories was made and you played as brian johnson and see grove street at it's peak
If only it really existed... 🙁
Lol the boy was 10 when he died
I live in brazil and one thing which happens a lot in criminal confrotations are loose bullets. Ones who go far from their target and hit someone else. As it is mentioned as a "accident" brian's death was probably not intentional. And CJ taking the fault can be connected to he being with brian ATM. One possible thing is CJ going to hang with brian outside grove street territory as Gorve was stronger before. In a attempted ambush of CJ brian took the bullet making CJ get the fault of putting him in the wrong place at the wrong time
Absolutely yes, Luan 🙂
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Plot twist: LB is actually Brian, with the acronym of Lil' Brian. So Ryder called him LB just so his disguise is not revealed.
That would be sick if turned out to be true! 😁
Another plot twist..... LB = Leslie benzies
One of the early people who worked on
Gta games and it's a tribute / easter egg.
Of if you know snoop dogg from the lbc
Long Beach california
Anyone noticed that Maria was 25 in GTA3? Doesn’t that mean she was 16 in SA in 1992 when Salvatore was hitting on her?
good point bro
It makes sense she was 16 at his first job at the casino when she met the old fart and started using him for her money needs
Well, the problem with applying this age to Maria is the fact that she is much older in appearance in GTA 3 already... So it's impossible to say that she was 25 because of GTA San Andreas :/
@@gaminginvestigators well, her story was fully rewritten. She was not a waitress but a 25 years old dancer in Luigi’s Club where she tried to earn money for studying and met Salvatore, who made her his trophy girl, locked her in house, she later realised his dark nature of old violent scumbag, tyrant, sadistic and psychopath and tried to escape from her tragic situation. Her appearance in SA and LCS doesn’t make any sense because in US underaged people (
Or the fact that she was a waitress in
A mob ran casino .
I think 10 year old Brian Johnson was accidentally killed in a Ballas drive-by shooting that was meant to kill CJ. Brian didn't know how to use a gun but accidentally shot himself in the foot.
Brian ODed. (Overdosed)
And here's my reason
As soon as CJ enters his house and looks around he hears Kendall's voice echoing in his head indicating that was probably his last moment before Brian died and it makes sense that Brian died at home because why would CJ remember those very last sentences that were said between him and Kendall . Which moves on to my next point with Kendall saying "Mom they're up to something." What would CJ and Brian try to hide from everyone because their mom knows that they're involved in gang activity so pretty much that would lead to they're mom thinking "well at least they're smoking pot instead of doing any other hard drug out there" which would lead to my next Point why does sweet have a strong positions against hard drugs while the rest of the other sets Seville family Boulevard and Temple Drive are very lack about it? Because that was probably the cause of Brian's death and why sweet made the decision of not pushing yay and why the 2 other sets beefed and split with the Grove. Because they Seville and Temple wanted to sell.
So pretty much in what I can reconstruct in my head CJ came home with some hard drug so pretty much either heroin or cocaine Brian walks into CJ's room and CJ lets him in on the secret and so he does it with CJ Brian is doing more than he really should Kendall walks in sees what's going on and this leads to the interaction between Kendall and CJ that Echoes In CJ's head in the beginning of the game so CJ goes after Kendall to stop her from snitching on him and leads Brian alone with the cocaine Brian sniffs a lot of it and ODS CJ comes back and sees Brian convulse and violently to the cocaine and it's probably filming from the mouth CJ is panicking and the convulsing stops Brian is Motionless. Kendall Witnesses this and screens and panics sweet also hears Kendall screams CJ runs out of the house.
So pretty much yeah Brian probably OD'd
Interesting approach 🤔 So you think that the whole event took place in the house instead of the street, huh? We can't say that it's impossible, for sure. We must admit that we are surprised by your saying that a 10-year-old boy could use drugs at that age. 🤔 Well, we know that Ryder was dealing drugs since the age of 10, but it's shocking to hear that such a kid could take them. Moreover, we can't really imagine CJ giving Brian hard drugs like crack or PCP, that would be so irresponsible! Funny enough, the phrase "quit it" actually can be applied to a situation where someone ends up smoking 🤔 However, there is one thing that might destroy this theory instantly. As you probably remember, during the episode we mentioned that there was supposed to be a line of dialogue from Beverly Johnson in this particular cutscene. "Brian! Carl! Quit fighting, and go wash your hands!"
It'd make more sense if he left the drugs in his room and Brian found them and CJ didn't directly have an involvement
@@gaminginvestigators CJ was babysitting him at the time. It wasn't necessarily that he had direct involvement, it's that he was under CJ's care at the time. Maybe Bev was at work or something
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
@@gaminginvestigators bro whassup? the theory about drug overdose really can be true. Yeah beverly said about fighting but that was in beta, so rockstar removed dialogue so that brian death cause was drugs. Also, Beverly could be upstairs while brothers downstairs, maybe beverly was tired and thought they were fıghting. Also if Brian really have had some beefs with cj, then Kendl did not say that they are up to SOMETHING( She would say that they are fighting) . I guess he was killed by ballas, but drug overdose can not be ruled out ( it also explains why CJ and Sweet are so against drugs).
im wondering what happened to cj's dad, cus ive never heard carl or sweet say 'dad' or 'father' once in the storyline
Cj mentions his dad to Joey in the prologue in liberty city. He called him after stealing someone’s vehicle and Joey was talking about Salvatore. Cj stated that he never met his dad nor knew anything about him.
Tha barber Reece knew cj dad cuz when u get a haircut he say your dad use 2 get tha same cut.
We probably won't ever know anything concerning CJ's father :/
@@killbillyosahah507 this kinda almost made me laugh
@@killbillyosahah507 imagine if Reece was talking in 3rd person
Can u tell me whats the 12:04 mission convo? I forgot about that one
Why did you use saints row 2 theme for the sound on 6:03
Imagine them making a San Andreas stories and we got to play as CJs little brother but him dying at a much older age
That would be... rather unexpected 😅
Has to be ballas related. Maybe CJ and Brain were instigating a fight with some Ballas then it ended with Brian dead. I think CJ was already with the grove street families but I’m not sure Brian was part of the gang since he was so young.
We are not sure either :/ But we do remember that in "South Central" from 1992, the son of the main character was committing some crimes so it is possible 🤔 As for the Ballas, we also feel that it's very likely that they were involved in this...
It has to be Ballas cause who else would have beef with them? We don’t really see Grove street and Vagos or any other gang have bad blood so it has to be Ballas.
Yeah, maybe CJ took Brian with himself and foolingly stepped into Ballas' territory inflicting shootout where Brian was wounded and *a)* left dying after CJ ran away fearing of his life or *b)* taken home by CJ where he left Brian's body and then drove away letting his family know that he (CJ) was responsible for what happened. This tragedy was so impactful that CJ decided to get out of Los Santos with all his grief.
@@mixaconor a ballas member tried to shoot cj from behind. Brian saw the ballas member trying to shoot cj so Brian sacrificed himself by blocking the bullet with his own body
They were probably messing around and sneaking out to go score in a business burglary, or hit up a party. Something went wrong, perhaps a drive by shooting and Brian was offed as CJ took cover or fled. Or the police showed up and the two tried to make a break for it, only for Brian to be hit by a car or even the train.
i know this video is old but i was looking for this (0:40 Ryder's friend) episode and did not find it
Poor Brian, I'm one too but with a Y. When I saw the cutscenes talking about Brian it threw me off and then I felt bad for CJ and his family but later then called him Brian Griffin and continued listening to Radio Los Santos lol
That's a great way to feel happy again 😆
Brian got hit by a car while they were playing field hockey 😅
some are saying that the flashback in the beginning explains what happened to Brian... shot himself out of stupidity
Hell, so you think he was that careless? 🤔
I always thought it was EXTREMELY weird we never got a Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Stories game
You hear Brian's voice when CJs at mum's house reminiscing "quit it... Mum's is here"
That's CJ's voice pitched higher to make him sound younger
Yes, we know 🙂
Damn, I forgot how f’ed up gangs truly are. Either fatally shooting or beating to death a CC 10 year old. Smh also this games seems a bit all over the place about Brian. A 10 year old is not a teenager
I think Brian was 17. He wasnt to much younger than CJ,
@@brandonethereal1084 that’s what I’m thinking. But after reading Cj was born in 68 and Brian in 77. Cj was 24 during the evens/gameplay of San Andreas making him 19 when Brian died. They were 9 years apart based off of the year they were born according to wiki and other bio links for them. But emmitt made it seem like they were around the same age when got them confused
@@ladytionne1 Hmmm interesting..... It just seemed like Brian would be old enough to put in alot of work in the gang. A 10 year can be active in a set, but I thought it would've made more sense if Brian was much older, already having notoriety in the GSF.💯💯
Well, that's how it is 🙄 It's extremely hard to find gangs which are more merciful :/
@@gaminginvestigators I wasn’t saying they should be more merciful I was just saying I forgot how vicious they can be.😕
I think it was a car accident that killed Brian based on in game dialogue from other characters about CJ’s driving. Even if it is also an inside joke about GTA players being terrible drivers.
This is certainly a possibility 🤔
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
Rockstar said that There would have been a San Andreas Stories but the GTA SA Introduction film already explained everything perfectly so there was no need for a prequel.
Can you send us the source of this statement? 🤔
Brian's death made Smoke question Sweets leadership which eventually got so bad Smoke said Eat that fool.
😂
Big smoke wanted to get into drug dealing and said their principals are
Making them weak while the ballas are
Profiting from drug dealing , hence why
They wanted to knock off sweet .
They figured killing Beverly would bring
Back carl from liberty city and all throughout the game crash had cj kill
People that could testify and put them away for long time .
5:51 This Image Breaks My Heart💔
Sometimes in gunfights with the police cj will say Brian taking assholes
in my opinion big smoke wasn't cuz i feel like he started to betray the groves at the drive thru mission he wasn't shooting and ate Ryders food i think he did it so he had a reason to not shoot so maybe he would already be with the ballas already he had years to do it
Sweet was being too emotional, blaming your little brother for the death of your other little brother is unfair…I would’ve left too.
Wow I didn't know Brian Johnson was 10 years old I thought he was 15 or 18!
Yeah, we are also happy that we found Brian's age 🙂 It really helps to imagine the whole situation in terms of what happened to him :/
Another great video guys 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you, c0a! 🙂 We are happy that you're still watching our content, bro 🤘
Rockstar really dropping the ball not making peace with young maylay and doing San Andreas stories! It could be centered around Brian, GsF, Cj in liberty. Do they not realize IT'LL SELL🙃😂Seriously that'd be fun af
I used to have many issue's of Electronic Gaming but a friend of mine threw them away for a bogus reason but life goes on
How can you die at age 10 and be a teenager like what??😂
Right shit is ridiculous
It is amazing to me that 18 years later, we are all trying to break down and analyze the plot and storylines for a fucking VIDEO GAME! That is how truly great this game was and still is... I just recently started playing again, I still have a working PS2 with copies of San Andreas and Vice City, I believe this is my 837, 648th time playing through lol
In the now known about deleted conversation with CJ and Big Bear, Bear says Sweet didn't do shit while the gang splintered, but of course when CJ comes back suddenly he's all hung up about CJ proving he's loyal by taking the hood back... It makes me wonder, is there anyone in this game who doesn't use CJ? Tenpenny, Toreno, Salvatore Leone, even his own brother... Woozie and Cesar seem to be his only real friends.
Brian's death being caused by the ballas with Big smoke's involvement makes the most sense,Cause it confirms what kendl says at the end of san andreas that smoke was always out for himself
No it doesn't Grove Street is not the Mafia where you go undercover for 5 years to take them down.
Exactly! If that's what happened and there is a high probability... then Big Smoke was always like this, which is even more striking 🙁
Great video... but did you say a 10 year old was a teenager?
It just seems like when your looking to find deeper meanings within certain parts of the game rather than seeing it as or accepting it in its final form is more like the base of this video is in some ways like making things up as you go along making up a story that isn't there or guessing at possible clues that might not always mean the same thing to the creator of the game is a fifty fifty scenario were either very small details are true or or recreated as guess answers wether untrue or half true the game maker might just have added some details at random just fill in a pretend back story to keep gamers curious or to help promote the game basically searching for answers that might mean something different unless rockstar tell you thereself it would be difficult to determine true meanings to unfinished or cut scenes or images from this game.. don't get me wrong tho the video definitely captures intrested and is good I'm not a hater I just wish rockstar would confirm or tell us what they mean or like it is in movies back when people buy dvd some with come with extra features like behind the scenes , cut scenes or the making .. just as an extra thing to view when you purchase games , usually when things are cut out it could either be because it is inappropriate or because it wouldn't make sense in the final story or lack of space or is felt that certain parts were just plain unnecessary 🤔
I think drugs are in picture of Brian’s death. I mean notice how Sweet and CJ doesn’t want anything to do with it.
Sure thing, bro! Drugs certainly could be connected to what happened with Brian 🙂
Now this video should be interesting
Hell yeah! 🤘
@@gaminginvestigators no one else hasn’t tamed about this why does Sweet Blame Carl for Brian’s death where was Smoke and Ryder?
Kind of unrelated here, but I have a theory, maybe it could sound legit it you, maybe not. But here it is.
I wonder if the alley that Tenpenny and Pulaski threw CJ out of the car at the beginning of the game was the same alley that Brian died in. Cuz CJ said “ah shit, here we go again” once he realizes he’s in the alley. Well, for him to say that, it kind of sounds like something bad had happened to him/somebody else in that same alley. By him saying the quote “ah shit, here we go again. Worst place in the world” doesn’t that kind of sound like he has some sort of PTSD from being in that alley? Maybe Tenpenny and Pulaski threw him out at that particular alley to remind him that that’s the place where he let his little brother die.
Please do a video on Jimmy Hernandez,Tony,Lil Devil,Big Devil,Beverly Johnson ,LB,Big Poppa And Big Bear
Sure thing 😃
Ok
Probably brian was so amazed by the gangster life and he tried to be like cj but ended somehow in a shootout and passed away
I feel like Brian and Cj got caught in the wrong hood. Cj was able to get away but Brian did not.
Yeah They Showed How Brian Died
i assume that CJ and Brian were very close and Brian was rolling with CJ at the time of his death hence why he was blamed, the big brother couldnt protect the little brother, and in black communities children as young as 10 are still pretty much referred too and considered babies still, so you can imagine how bad it looked that CJ allowed his baby brother to be killed, when he was not only a popular gang member but the brother of Sweet himself who was already a LS O.G, but people forget CJ would have been a teenager himself at the time, he would still be naive and childish but that sort of behaviour is not befitting of a well known gangster.
edit: i think its important to also add that i dont think Smoke is in any way responsible for CJ's mothers death however he played stupid and acted like he didnt know who did the act or why, when in fact he did!, I believe this is due to Sweets policy on selling crack like stated in the video, Smoke was involved in the murder plot on Sweet, in a means to get him out of the way, that way Smoke being 2nd in command would be free to use groove to move dope, I also think CRASH planned to protect Smoke by covering up the attack as Smoke is a valuable asset, hence why they covered up the green sabre - this is proven correct like stated in the video, when Tenpenny told CJ gang loyalty is overrated vand polaski stated that Smoke does as he is told, that was a clear reference to Smoke betraying the groove to work with the Ballas, a partnership I also believe CRASH facilitated and ultimately engineered
Perfectly said!
So sad that the "definitive edition" just cut out the Intro
Brian's last name was pendlebury
12:58, damn that dude's head is big.
Odd to see a video that didn't once play the GTA 2 or 3 themes lol.
Saints row music over a gta video 😌niceee
I thought it was something more typical like Groove Street having issues with another family. Big Smoke set CJ up to be gun down because the Police wanted to cause more tension between the groups. Brian was with CJ at a location and got caught in the crossfire CJ feeling guilty and pressure of Brian's death leaves the town.
I’ve seen other people speculate that maybe Brian died in a car accident and honestly, I think that would make the most amount of sense. Cuz think about it, CJ talks about how he hates the Ballas for what they did to his mother and also in the mission “Green Sabre” when they shoot Sweet. But if Brian was killed in a gang shootout (likely with the Ballas) then wouldn’t CJ or even somebody else have stated it? CJ went ape shit against the Ballas in the mission Green Sabre for simply wounding Sweet, if they had KILLED Brian than don’t you think CJ would’ve went on an absolute RAMPAGE!? This is what I think, CJ and Brian were hanging out together in a car, CJ was driving and they either got into a bad accident and Brian was seriously injured and then CJ started to panic and didn’t know what to do so he ran off instead of helping Brian, leaving Brian to die of his injures. Or maybe they could’ve been speeding and CJ flipped the car over, after the car, CJ gets out and runs off and the car blows up with Brian in it. Maybe CJ was new to driving in 1987 and didn’t know that if you turn a car upside down, it’ll blow up. I think a car accident would be the best guess as to how Brian died in my opinion. Think about it, it would make sense as to why Sweet and Ryder give CJ grief about his driving at the beginning of the game. Also in the mission where CJ and Ryder go to steal weapons from the army, Ryder says something along the lines of “You think you can drive this van without tipping it over and blowing us up”? Could that have possibly been a reference to Brian? Maybe Ryder was jabbing at CJ for his past doings.
9:43 isnt that just CJ's voice actor?
Well, this voice doesn't sound like CJ's voice actor to us :/
@@gaminginvestigators it's his voice pitched higher to make him sound younger
Rock star should do an alternative scenario game of San Andreas where CJ Never Returns To Los Santos And Stays in Liberty City and When Sweet Calls Him to tell him that their mom died He Blames Sweet For Her Death Just Like Sweet Blames CJ For Brian's Death,In Liberty City He Works With The Leones and is accepted as the first non italian mob soldier which results in a war with the other families and sicilians, that the Leones Win and CJ Becomes A Capo In The End.
and then he get wacked. as much as they loved him he wasn't one of them he wasn't Italian otherwise CJ might still be alive.
Interesting idea🤔
@@tareklegrand7747 but he survives and he expands GSF Into LC And With Claude and the Yakuza they defeat the Colombians and the leones
@@cossintanlogee sounds like a kid movie
The real question is what was big smoke doing in cj momma house by himself at the beginning of the game?🤔🤔
Well, he was probably waiting for Sweet in case he survived the Ballas trap at the cemetery 😃
4:14 when you sweet cant get out of jail bec of tenpenny, me (cj) risked my life, robbed the military, killed and hijacked on multiple occasions just to get u out of jail. while even giving bread to kendl and securing a future for them.
Someone mentioned that Brian could’ve died from a drug overdose while CJ was supposed to be watching him and I personally agree.
In fact I have a friend who grew up in Newark, who one time when he was 5years old accidentally ingested some of his uncle’s cocaine thinking it was sugar he almost died afterwards got rushed to the hospital and had his stomach pumped.
So Brian accidentally ingesting drugs while CJ was supposed to be babysitting him makes a lot of sense to me at least. My friend could’ve died if his uncle didn’t do the right thing and take him to the hospital immediately.
So CJ not wanting law trouble or perhaps panicking straight up abandons Brian to die alone overdosing in pain.
It really makes CJ being exiled make more sense and it does make it 100% CJs fault, also it would explain Sweets adamance in refusing to touch drugs.
I know a 10 year old is smarter than a 5 year old but I could still see a 10 year old either accidentally ingesting drugs or purposely taking them trying to impress someone who he looked up to (possibly Smoke) that was taking them.
Idk I might just be talking crazy but that’s my theory lmk if you have any thoughts.
What happened to CJ after GTA San Andreas my theory is that CJ is still living in Los Santos out of loyalty to his brother Sweet and the rest of the Grove Street Families. At the very end of the game, Carl is a young and wealthy man. His assets and business interests include the Grove Street Families gang and Madd Dogg's contract in Los Santos, a car garage and several other properties in San Fierro, and shares in the Four Dragons Casino in Las Venturas so I see CJ buying out Sweet and Kendl and is living in the Johnson House got married and have children of his own. Mostly likely Mike Toreno would of talk CJ into returning the government's $60 million jetpack.
Wow, thanks for sharing your theory regarding what happened to CJ after the storyline of the game! 🙂
@@gaminginvestigators thank you I'm working on the theory of What happened to Claude after GTA 3
By the end of the game cj tried to
Get sweet to see that the world is bigger
Than their hood and cj is a multi millionaire.
CJ is a better leader then Sweet
Change my mind
We won't do that cause it's true 😁
Carl Johnson is a TRUE brother and it's so sad that Brian died at the age of 10.
I mean, CJ killed more than 20 men in that Cr*ck fortress and that's a true bro & true GTA protagonist.
By the way, great video Gaming Investigators 👏👏👏👏
Glad we can be of service, Jayden ☺
It could have been that Brian saw Big Smoke talking with TenPenny or something he saw something he shouldn`t have seen. And it lead his tragic death at a young age which was no doubt carried out by big smoke or ten penny.
So you think that could be the motive for getting Brian killed on purpose, huh? 🤔 Interesting approach 😁
@@gaminginvestigators If Brian was murdered then he possibly could have had a hand in it. But if it was a car accident he died in then TenPenny would’ve had more to do with it. Smoke wouldn’t know how to make a car accident look like an “accident”.
Smoke's so called betrayal happened only because Sweet is the worst gang leader
people like to theorise and make things bigger than they already are. Let's say that Brian died like how most young man die in the ghetto which resulted to CJ moving to the East because he was tired of that way of life and that's it.
The question is, was it only because of this? 😉
@@gaminginvestigators better question, would that make any difference?
When i remember on introduction movie well its the shame Rockstar did not put someting like that again.
What if cj was trying to kill one head leaders of a gang with Brian but it took a wrong turn and Brian was killed and in the last mission that’s y he tells sweet to stay behind cause that’s how Brian was killed
I've always wondered why there wasn't a San Andreas Stories...
If carl is called CJ, was Brian referred to as BJ? 😂😂😂😂😂
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I think he got killed when the ballers rolled thru the Cul-de-sac and did a drive by trying to get CJ and Sweet. He probably was outside playing when they came through shooting
That would be a horrifying image 😣
@@gaminginvestigators True
After the casino heist I'm not sure if Joey would be happy to see his former associate if he knew CJ robbed Joey's father let me know what you think
Personally, we wouldn't try to contact Joey after this heist 😅
GAMING INVESTIGATORS: Brian died at the age of 10.
Also, GAMING INVESTIGATORS: He was a teenager.
So, you gotta be 12 to be someone's great-great grandma?
In the Introduction movie CJ says he never knew his dad. CJ is clearly older than ten, so how could he not know who is father was if brian was ten?
Same mom, different fathers. Common thing in black homes sadly.
@@joshingram071like Brian has a different father and not the same one as CJ, kendl and sweet's father?
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I think that Brian has been driving with CJ and CJ crashed the car that's probably why Ryder teases him about his driving
that feels more like a 4th wallbreak about GTA players driving like maniacs rather than an actual story point, plus Ryder says something along the lines of the east coast made him drive like a fool, meaning Carl was only noticeably bad when he came back
So the car accident then 🤔 Totally possible, bro 👌
Ion like how they kinda made cj seem like a goofy
well Tenpenny might have wanted to mess with CJ's mind kendle said about the same thing in King in Exile mission so there might be something to that idea CJ was driven out of Las Santos by the Familyas for his mom's Funeral CJ was not even in town so Sweet could not claim he ran away from that one
I started a new save on San Andreas today and remember when CJ went to the house the same scene same as you picked the wrong house fool and then the flashback audio thing happened and then I heard the name Brian so then I decided to Google Brian and then I found out he died and then i UA-cam searched him and then this video from 5 hours ago pops up and I'm like perfect timing then I write this comment but as I was writing this comment I thought I would ask if you could make a video of a we didn't start the fire parody about the events of every GTA game that would be so interesting well I'm done with my rambling time to actually watch the thing
Uhmm, yeah sure 😅
@@gaminginvestigators yeah that's probably too much
@thestrong2401
4 months ago (edited)
The real story of how he died is that CJ was smoking weed and left Brian who was just a kid practice shooting with his gun ("mom they're up to something" "what are you doing carl, brian stop it!" "Quit it mom will hear you") and Brian accidentally shot himself and died. Carl was blamed for his death of course and for both the shame and to avoid jail for the possession of an illegal weapon Carl left Los Santos and went to Liberty City and swore he would have never touched any type of drugs ever again (that's why in gta san andreas he's so against drugs and even gets angry at the truth one time when he asks him if he wants to smoke).
this makes more sense, there is no way kids die for gangbanging, that wouldnt make sense.