SABINE WAS THE FORMER LADYBUG MIRACULOUS HOLDER! | Miraculous Ladybug Season 4 Theories ! 🐞✨
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Check out the brand new Miraculous Ladybug Season 4 Theory video I made about Sabine, Marinette's Mom being the former Ladybug Miraculous Holder!! 🐞✨
Hey guys!! It's been a while since this video was shared and I just wanted to note that this theory was a hot mess and one of my first ever! 😂 I do still believe that she's aware of miraculous's like the other parents however her being a former Ladybug miraculous holder, no. Long story short, if this is the first video you're seeing from my channel, WELCOME! ❤️ BUT, just know my theories aren't like this anymore in the sense that this just did not make sense, well, at least for the most part! 😅
#MIRACULOUSLADYBUGSEASON4 #MIRACULOUSLADYBUGSEASON4THEORIES
Maybe Sabine is just a normal person with no negative emotions-
I mean shes really calm
Yeah
If your your theory is true...
I wish i could control my emotions like her , I'm kinda emotional fool sometimes😭❤️
Yeah
Yea like Rose
@@Mei.art18 Meditation. It really does work (this from someone who suffers from PTSD) to help quiet emotional turmoil.
Although not akumatized herself she was one of Befana's Angels in season 2.
maybe she was an angel bcuz she protected the city (i dunno which city) since she was past lb??? 🤫🤫
@@juririhalien no not really it's simply her being a supportive duaghter in law to Befana who just chooses who should be stoned or become an angel
@@nightfall3442 yes ik i was just kidding lol
@HypnoSpace Outlaw yes
@HypnoSpace Outlaw Right, but so was Marinette (almost)
Mari: Tikii Spots On.
Sabine: Screams help as marinette is transforming
Like Every Time
Tikki*
But like Sabina is probably not past the ladybug because Miraculous has been forgotten and it was with master but I think maybe her grandma or great grandma because they could be over 100 years old she hasn’t met her full family so I think that could reveal something could be a past ladybug 😱
Would also explain how she learned those moves from her mother/mari’s grandma
@@Ak1rameowmeow oooh true
@@evlern621 :)
Mari: TIKKI SPOTS ON! YAAA
Sabine downstairs in the kitchen: Tom she’s doing it again….☕️🤦🏻♀️
Fr
Loooooool
Noooo
lol🤣
BAHAHAHAHAH
Sabine: *Hearing Something In Marinette's Room*
Marinette: "TiKkI SpOtS oN Yahhhhh"
Bro if she knew she would have said to truth aka luka that she is ladybug 😄
@@miraculousfan1975 nah Bc he didn’t ask her that question
@@miraculousfan1975 he asked her where her diary was not if she was ladybug
Lol so true if I was ladybug my mom will already find out lol
lol 😂
Luka asking for mari's deepest secret
*everyone: SHE IS IN LOVE WITH ADRIEN AGRESTE"*
Thank God this was before she revealed herself to Alya
@@isabellamoya3934 Ikr
@@тарусскаядевушка it's maybe not a secret anymore but it still hurts a lot lol
@@isabellamoya3934 yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh...
@@isabellamoya3934 fr she would be so done
Gabriel be like “Do I fEeL NeGaTiVe EmOtIoNs”
*BAHA- YES..*
Gabriel can´t you feel your son´s negative emotions??? aaaggh
Before that he says: “aaaaaaaaghhh”
TYSM for the likes :)
Can u feel ur sons negative emotions? Ur such a bad father
RIP to this amazing voice actor and person, she was a beautiful soul and did so much.
@@fa1ry0ffall yes:(
so are they gonna replace her?
@@Asterix_Angel33 I have no idea as they haven't said any new on it, but personally I don't feel like they will, i'm sure they'll honor her in an episode like any other show but I can't say!
NOOO REALLY!? :(
@@amandafredette7538 yes:(
Mari: TIKKI, SPOTS ON!! YAAAAA
Sabine: CAN YOU SHUT THE FU-
lmao
@Apanthus Reaper in some scenes you don’t even see people transform, I think the transform is kind of like a cut scene in a video game none of the other players can see it only like the main character. I don’t know if that makes sense but like I don’t think they’re actually going through this huge transformation dance every time in real time it’s kind of just for the show
3:10
Lol the Akumatized name off Mari is princess justice and then the Akumatized name off sabine is Verity queen.
💐🌸🌺
@Apanthus Reaper I think it's actually in some sort of "Miraculous secret dimension" or something of that sort. Because the floor when she transforms or catches the akuma is different from the ACTUAL floor. I have a feeling it's some secret dimension that only Miraculous wielders and affected (like an akuma) are in. Like a special spiritual dimension. Either that, or I'm seeing too much into it.
There’s a couple of holes in your theory. The temple housing the Guardians of the miraculous had been devoured by Master fu’s centimonster , meaning that it had vanished off the face of the earth for over 180 years going by Master fu’s age. So there’s no way that Sabine could have possibly trained at that temple provided that it wasn’t there before she as born. Another plot hole is master fu’s flashback, when parting with his lover in Paris he was relatively young and the time period looked as though it was set during ww2. This implies that he would have been in France decades before Sabine was even born. Plus Marinette’s ladybug seems to be the first in Paris, so Sabine wouldn’t have been a ladybug in France.
That being said, going by sabines skills, she might have trained as a guardian of another temple guarding a different miracle box whilst she grew up in China. I think It is more likely she was a former guardian or miraculous holder of different temple tasked with hunting down the missing miracle box, but Ultimately decided to settle down.
Is everyone just ignoring your comment? Your theory seems more likely.
But if she's a former guardian, her memory should be gone
@@kakaliroy3131 you can make new memories, and fighting styles are infrind into your Brain
Well it did get devoured but ladybug and cat noir defeated the sentimonster so the temple is back and everything else that got swallowed and it could be that she had anancestor who taught them which means they trianed there before it vanished that could possibly be
And also in the new your special they show that there is a second miraculous box being guarded by a Chinese man. (The man wanted the Eagle miraculous back) This could be the box Sabine guarded or trained for.
So here’s one reason why all the ladybug miraculous holders have dark blue hair: so I saw somewhere that apparently it’s very hard to animate black hair, and since the original temple of the Miraculous was in a China (I think) a lot of people have black hair, but since it’s hard to capture the movement of black hair, animators either put a streak of a bright color so that you can see the movement in that streak, or make the hair dark blue, dark purple, or even a very dark brown. :)
Marc has black hair?
@@fawn5159 Marcs hair isn’t long enough to move but Maris is
Her dad is probably too busy going “LaLA lA La LA LA lA LA” while baking bread to hear her say “TIKKI,SPOTS ON!” All day
Yes
It isn't like she literally is screaming it everyday 😆
Omg im always questioning that
Ahahahaha
@@yayanlalalalala5260 lol 😂
If Sabine knows where Marinette's diary is, there's a possibility she read through it and possibly knows that Marinette is Ladybug, but that's only if Marinette did write it down.
Sabine isn’t that kind of mom though. She knows how to respect people’s boundaries
Yep Marinette writed it
ya but what super hero is dumb enough to right down that there a super hero in there diary if there trying to keep there identity a secret
There no way het diary all about adrien
@@kaylierelia7716 Marinette because she definitely wrote about being ladybug in there, she talks about almost revealing herself to cat noir in one of her diary entries. But, Sabine couldn't have read it even if she wanted to because of the booby trap Marinette set
Mari in s4: **depressed**
Hawkmoth: *not sensing negative emotions*
me: WTF-
((omfg thanks so much for 3.3K likes HSHSH
Ikr!!!! Like she was always crying! And hawkmoth aka shadowmoth didn't akumatize her
@@Sanatani.Chingi I agree with you. Its either he cant sense anything from her or hes just blind af
@@Aubrrgne I think the blindness runs through the family
With adrien being "SHES JUST A FRIEND"
And then we have hawkie
@@Sanatani.Chingi I AGREE LMAOOO-
@@Sanatani.Chingi "LIKE DUDE like hawkmoth is kind of decent atleast he ships ladynoir like, ADRIEN YOU BLIND FOOOOOL LMFAO HE'S LITERALLY CALLING THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE "JUST A FRIEND" AND TO KNOW HIS FATHER SHIPS HIM WITH HIS CRUSH I- 😂
The funny thing is Marinette is always in her room screaming “Tikki spots on!” All day I think her mom would be able to hear it😂
Edit: Omg how did I get so many likes overnight?! Thank you!😄
Edit #2: YOU GUYS ARE SO SWEET 1.4K LIKES?! And the fact that she hearted my comments after I edit them AHHHH!! ♥️❤️
Yeah but her mom doesn't know what that means duhhhXD
@@loisywasnottaken3272 but will wonder
"who is tikki?"
@@Cl0udystar lol
@@Cl0udystar wait what if she says Marinette dear you have been saying Tikki spots on? Are you ok?? WAIT MARINETTE WHERE ARE YOU TOM CALL THE SCHOOL!🤣🤣
@@loisywasnottaken3272 and maybe marinette will say
"oh uh... Its my ImAgInArY friend"
😅
She couldnt train at the temple as the temple was gone for ages and no, Sabine is not 200 years old since in the Shanghai special there are pictures of her when she was young. 200 years ago there were no photographs. I dont think she has anything to do with the Miraculous. But its possible that Marinette’s distant ancestors were miraculous holders. That would be cool
Plus the temple is in Tibet, which is nowhere near Shanghai.
@@karensteimle1977 plus the temple was gone for around 172 years. but there mite be other temples around with Miraculous or copy of info about them. who know the item from the Shanghai special mite be a let say lost Miraculous.
I don’t know about the ladybug part, but I think she def knows about the miraculous and/or had one before
dude i did know the past ladybug existed 200 years ago but i didnt have any proof that sabine isnt that old or something but mah man/girl u have given the perfedct and undeniable evidence! (compliment)
they kind of mentioned that her grandma from her mom's side is a former miraculous holder but it was never confirmed and maybe sabine was trained by her mother to be a miraculous holder but never get to be
Sabine can’t be the previous holder of the LB miraculous bc Tikki states in a previous episode that it had been a LONG TIME that she had an owner before Marinette. Tikki also states that the world she knew from her last owner was So different with all the technical changes. So I’m pretty sure she wasn’t the previous owner but that is a good theory.
If anything it could just be ancestors of sabine and maybe they told her the story but she brushed it off as a myth/joke and didn’t tell marinette about it because she knew it wasn’t eeal
Marinette first got the miraculous when she was 14, Sabine is somewhere between 35-40 so that’s 20+ years, and that could also mean a long time.
@@Alyssa_Evans Marinette said that that there weren't ANY miraculous holders in circulation for at least 500 years before her, according to Master Fu.
Though idk the man is like 147 and he is still alive idk how. So maybe Sabine has some sort of longevity lol.
maybe it could have been Marinette's great-grandmother or something and like sabine knew about the transformation?
perhaps being in position of a miraculous somehow extends your lifetime, Considering how old Master Fu is.
Unfortunately, today the voice actress of Sabine Cheng passed away today. 😞
I know! I posted her on my community tab today! 😭❤️
@@TheMayaBShow May she rest 🕊🤍
noooo :( that's so sad I just heard about it
Wait what? How they gonna make more episodes then?
Marinette: TIKKI SPOTS ON!!
Parenst and people watching: she’s playing imagination again, she even has that pink effect
Lmao wut. 😃🖐️
LMFAO
Parents*
When Ladybug Bug and Cat noir defeat Hawkmoth:
Marinette: Mother
Sabine: Hello Sweetie
Marinette: *I'm Ladybug*
Sabine: I know
Marinette: W-WHAT-? HOW
Sabine: Oh My god.. *EVERYDAY YOU GO UPSTAIRS "TiKkI spOtS oN! TiKkI spOtS oFf" AND YOUVE BEEN SKIPPING CLASSES WHEN SOMEONE GETS AKUMATIZED! now help me with the bread*
Marinette: I-I'm Sorry about that-! And sure mother-
Edit:
Yes- I took this from Tiktok not Gacha-
*credits to the person that made this*
jazzMaroon
I'm a girl. Do not assume my gender
you stole this
@@jazzMaroon welcome to UA-cam 👏
U stole this by gacha life
@@elenataheryrauf964 it’s from tiktok ;-;
@@anna_antique9354 ive been in youtube for 4 years. ""Anna"
Also, we know that when ppl get akumatized that they get the same object akumatized as before (ex . Alya's phone or Reflectas bracelt). So in Ladybug when a bunch of ppl were akumatzied, Sabine's Akuma went into her ring. Maybe her and Tom fight about smth? Maybe he's there is a secret between them, hence *Verity Queen*.
Ooh smurt 🙃🤓
No. On Heroes Day they all got aumatized, and the akuma went into their insignia
whah now that is a nice explanation but not the explanation for is she past ladybug
still i like how u pointed that out i didn't even notice
@@andrei_durlea Sabine didn't get akumatized in heros day, I was talking about the episode Ladybug
3:20
Maya : *This is just a theory*
Me : A FILM THEORY
AND CUT
Aaaaand cut
MatPat
Sabine being a past ladybug would make a lot of sense.
Mari : TIKKI SPOTS ONNN YEAHHHHHHH
tom and sabine : here we go again 🤦♀️
Mari sleeping
Sanine comes and takes her earrings and says: tiki spots on!
Nice Royale High pfp xD
Btw dat would be REALYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FUNNY xD
Yea I feel like Sabine might one of the few adults who casually know their identities. (As well as Andre Glacier and Marianne).
Also, in one of the Spiderman movies(either Toby's or Andrew's, I don't remember), it's confirmed that Aunt May knew Peter's secret, but didn't want to say anything cuz she knew it would cause him stress. Maybe that's what's happening here?
Andre knows their Identities? 0-0
@@abidahkhan7679 How? The Ice Creams?
@@bellebell7834 he saw adrien transform in miracle queen
Yes! I’ve always thought Andre knew their identities!
i really want to learn more about Sabine too. We need to get an episode of just like her😫😫
GURL the theory is good I can't even imagine how much time it would've took u to find u!!!!!!BTW good luck and don't stop u have all my support I'll support u no matter what and nice vid
@@TheMayaBShow no prob
girl the theory is JUST THEORY the past ladybug existed 200 years ago
@@ZyteX-kt5bj how do we know for sure?
@@doggo4880 watch the episode
@@ZyteX-kt5bj already seen them all
Or maybe she’s just too kind and calm to be akumatized ? She’s literally the sweetest character 🥺
IKR
She might be a former miraculous holder but I think that she maybe was supposed to be the ladybug in between the late 200 years
Edit: Tysm for the likes!
ok idk if this makes sense but we also learned that there was more than one miracle box so maybe it might be a possibility for her to ahve possessed one of those
@@emilyquintanilla8898 they were eaten
@@lenziki4344 yeah but after the sentimonster destroyed, everything is back to normal, which lead to the ending in new york special
@@mitsuru_nyan I do know, my point is that it's impossible for Sabine to own a miracle box because it was eaten for almost 200 years, except for the Mother Box which Master Fu took care of, Sabine didn't live until at least 20 years ago
Maybe she wasnt a ladybug holder? Maybe first bunny miraculous to time travel so she could be the ladybug 200 years ago?
I THINK SHE IS A FORMER LADYBUG MIRACULOUS HOLDER 🐞
SAMEEE
Same
@Miraculous4life32 Master Fu wasnt even giving miraculous anyone until he met Marinette. And in the middle of 20 century he was hiding from Germans. It could be dangerous give someone miraculous in that time, because I think you know who wanted them then. And I know that from from Backwarder episode it was them who was chasing Marianne and Fu. WW 2 happened because this madman from Germany started knew about existance about miraculous
She can’t be Bc the ladybugs before Mari existed like 100 years ago
former ladybug miraculous holder existed 200 years ago
Did y’all know that if you search up the meaning of Adrien and Marinette it means flowing sea/ water? AHHhH it’s so cute!!!
YESSS! 😆😆✨❤️
i think sabine knows mari is ladybug because she knows about maris diary
Could she have read the diary? I've seen in several episodes that Marinette writes down everything. If anyone were to read that, they'd find out. And it's definitely odd how Sabine knows exactly where the diary is.
She doesn't seem like the kind of parent to invade her child's privacy like that.
@@vermiciosknid9629 it's not invading ita called being a good parent making sure she's not doing anything dangerous
@@QuadElementals No, it's an invasion of privacy. No matter the "reason" for doing so. Period
@@UmuPadoru no its not you idiot unless Marinette is a grown adult and has her own house it's not an invasion of privacy because because still her house and her child
Ofc she would know marinette just yells “tiki spots on!” Loudly bruh
💀💀💀
Hate to break it to you but she can't be as the ladybug before Marinette was chosen 200 years ago..
Great theory tho
Trueee!! I feel like she knows about the miraculous's though! 🥰
@@abidahkhan7679 yes you have a point even i feel the same!
Idk it really is weird that Sabine has never been akumatized, knowing other villains kept on getting reakumatized. It's almost impossible for the writers to forget about Sabine actually being aku-
matized
Well even though the last miraculous holder was 200 years ago the word Sabine means ancient so she could be like master fu and just be old but not die as early as everyone else of age
@@abidahkhan7679 yes good point
Since the last ladybug seen was 200 years ago, I think that maybe a family member of Sabine was a former miraculous holder. They all look similar to Marinette and Sabine. I dunno it's just what I think! •w•
Mari/ladybug: TIKKKIII SPOTS ON YAA
Sabrina : *pretends that she doesn’t hear anything*
sabrina!?!?! Sabrina has nothing to do with this? u mean Sabine? i bet u mean Sabine.
She MIGHT be the past ladybug. Since the name "Marinette" means "Just a friend" And adrian calls mari that. Maybe there is hidden messages in other people names too in mlb
I thought that was a joke 😂 LoL. A cruel joke.
Marinette means "The one who rises"
Bugaboo means stalker according to destiny’s child
lol
Pls what 😍👌🏻
I would like to think that while each holder was supposed to be specially trained and selected, it would also be passed down a family line so as to limit the number of people who know about their existence and how powerful they are.
She may have trained as a child at one of the temples that holds the miraculous. They always took the youngest to train. She may have been selected to train since she was the youngest sibling. We also don't know why she moved to France and changed her name and left behind her family.
Yeah I wonder why she changed her name and left her family, I was looking for this comment, isn’t it very suspicious 🤨
The thing is though sabine knows how to handle everything and she never once got like mad or sad bcuz she can control her emotions but idk though bcuz she also is very sweet to everyone
Hawkmoth: *Tries To Akumatize Sabine*
Sabine: Get Away Ugly Butterfly 🙄🙄
HAHAHA
lol
Now that I’ve watched this it’s actually true she’s never been akumatised and I think she was a former miraculous holder 🥰🥰🥰💕❤️
Sabine is a former miraculas holder
Sometimes marinette leave her diary open so when her mom got
The diary she can read the secret of marinnette, and whenever she talks to tikki she can listen it or when she says tikki spots on her parents can hear the she is ladybug
The last ladybug holder was 200 years was ago and I’m pretty sure that Sabine is not over 200 years old
And even I dont think Fu met her before, he wasnt giving miraculous to anyone until Wayzz felt Hawkmoth using Nooroo
I would like to believe that one of here family members was a guardian or the last ladybug miraculouses owner before the temple burned down :)
Wasn't the last ladybug seen like 200 years ago(or more I don't know)?
But, I think she knows that she is ladybug. How does she not
hear that music and "TikKi, SpOtS oN"?!??!?😂
She might be wearing earbuds or just imagining the music XD
*She even got sgocked when she saw a moth going into her husband's Rose flower*
This is a really cool theory, I hope there is some conformation to it since I think it would be cool to see an episode where her ( Marinette's ) mom shows a bit of knowledge about the Miraculous from legends or something similar
Marinette: “tIkkI sPotTs oN! YeAhHh!”
Sabine: “iS sHe a fAn GirL oR iS mY dAugHteR soMehOw lAdyBug?”
Love your vids
Glad you enjoy ! 🥰✨
Yeah
This actually makes so much sense!!!
hmmmm, as much as i love love LOVE your theories, i don’t agree with this one because the last ladybug was 200 years ago. BUT i do this sabine may know something about the miraculouses because maybe one of her ancestors were the last ladybug. no hate intended at all!! i really love your videos! you’re on to something here tho! keep up the good work ♥️♥️
master fu said "I only made a mistake once" referring to choosing the holder if the miraculous. maybe sabine was that mistake?
@@cindrabenes9178 I think the mistake was. that he made a sentimonster that distroid the temple and lost 2 miraculous
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in the episode dearest family, sabine was akumatized so i dont really believe in this stuff because if she actually was, i wouldn’t really like the show but most of the things actually make sense how luka asked sabine if marinette had a diary instead of asking what her secret was. theres also a lot of other people who have navy blue like kagami, kagami’s mom, and more people. She also wasnt really scared that she was about to reveal her secret. also there was an episode were they revealed that the LAST ladybug was seen a really really long time ago.
"Again this is just a theory"
Me who has watched a lot of game theory: This is just a theory...
*A GAME THEORY....*
LOL
@@TheMayaBShow so tikki was marinettes mothers kwami????
Also she might have made herself the thing that protects her from negative emotions before handing the role down
*I saw this theory in a compilation of miraculous ladybug theory tiktoks long before I saw this video and there only proof was that In an old photo she had a earrings that looked exactly like the ladybug earrings in disguise mode and I was completely sold back then you can’t imagine how much I believe it now*
I really think that Sabine knows that marinette is ladybug all moms know everything about their child and marinette says tikki spots on all day long so Sabine must proberly know that marinette is Ladybug
rest in peace to the voice actress of Sabine Dupain Cheng :(
She passed away?!?
@@maplesyrup6052 yea she died yesterday from a heart attack :(
If ever Sabine is the former holder. Isn't she the ladybug that Mr. Agreste talking about the reason why Adrien's mom are in that position right now.
When did Gabriel say that Adrian's mom is in that position for ladybug ? Which episode ?
What when
Remember that time when everybody was saying that gabriel is hawk moth and it turned out to be true? Well the same will probably happen
This is a pretty good theory but in the episode with the meteorite and the frog Alya said that the last time miraculous' and miraculous users were seen were 200 years ago, before Catnoir and Ladybug came. Meaning if Sabine actually was the previous Ladybug miraculous holder then she would have to be over 200 years old.
Unless Sabine was a secret miraculous holder
Well, I have a question. We all know that when a kwami uses its power without an owner, a lot of disasters happen. Then what about Tikki? We know that when plag uses his power he literally destroys stuff. So what about Tikki? We've never seen what would happen if she used her power? I think she might just create something extraordinary.????!!
Personaly, I think we should find out about this...................
Maybe a volcano 🌋 is created with it and it also erupts
Maybe
Maya b might make another AWESOME theorie video about this question
@@rooparajesh1527 maybe
that could also be one of the who knows how many reasons why marinettes parents especially when she’s fighting never not even for a sec thinks to check up on marinette?? maybe idk just something I noticed
I thought the temple was actually in Tibet, not Shanghai. But yeah, there’s a chance that Sabine has a clue that Marinette could be Ladybug. Personally I would have liked to see more in Mr Pigeon 72 of the immediate aftermath of Marinette telling Alya she was Ladybug, with Alya saying she kind of thought that this was the case.
Yes I agree. She just hugged her and end of story like seriously?!?! I honestly hope we get more reactions when she reveals her identity to adrien or the others.....
HELLO IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS RN 💙✨💙✨💙
HI!! 😆✨🐞
@@TheMayaBShow heyyy!💙✨💙 I just finished watching it and it makes so much sense I never come think about it like this thank you for the info ! Btw amazing work keep it up we love you
Even when sabine got akumatized i doubt hawkmoth would think mari out of all people would be ladybug tho i don't think he ever used his brain to figure it out and he's never asked the akumatized villains " hey do u know who ladybug and cat noir are" etc
I think she just knows how to control her emotions
marinette: yells "TIKKI SPOTS ON" while hiding behind a TREE
everyone else: DID YOU HEAR SUM-
1. He would've asked about the diary cause he was sick of constantly getting the same answer and moms know that kind of stuff.
2. There are several other people who have never been akumatized in Paris, Hawkmoth tends to reakumatize old users as seen in Gang Of Secrets like if you're talking about Sabine not being akumatized you may as well say Felix was the old Cat Noir.
3. The Temple was burned down and Fu was said to be the only survivor, considering how The Celestial Guardian only came to Marinette after The Temple was fixed.
4. Sabine was startled because her husband was just hypnotized right infront of her, kind people put others safety before themselves.
5. I think if she was a former miraculous holder we would've seen more proof too.
6. Tikki states that it has been a long time since she had another Ladybug miraculous holder, Tikki would've also recognized Sabine. Within the long amount of time I don't think Sabine has been a holder since she would've been too young or not even born
7. I don't doubt that Sabine might know something about Marinette being Ladybug but I don't think she was the past holder, too far a stretch if they're letting her know about Marinettes identity.
But anyway great theory this is mine, it would be cool to see other miraculous holders from the past I just don't think its Sabine.
am i the only one who is wondering if adrians mom will ever wake up from her coma?
Or if she is really in a coma what is she’s actually dead
Wait , wasnt she dead?
@@cigdemt3670 she’s in a coma
Hey 👋 ❤️
Hi! 🥰✨
Gurl your theories are just so amazing its should be illegal to be this talented 🥲
Ok so hear out my thoughts
I think that the charm on Marinette's phone is actually a magical charm made by Sabine thats why she never gets acomatised and Sabine is the former holder
RIP Sabine. 😢 So sad to hear her English voice actress has died...
The same person voiced the science teacher as well 😢
sabines voice actress died today :((
Also, in QILIN, when helping the man in the wheelchair, she thought of a strategy the same way Marinette does as ladybug with her lucky charm.
I thought I was the only one who saw that lol
This is just a theory
A GAME THEORY
No THIS IS A SHOW THEORY
I think why Luca asked Sabine where Marinette's diary was it's because he asked everyone what Marinette's secret was and they only knew one that she had a crush on Adrien so he decided to ask her mom where the diary was so they he knows her deepest darkest secret
I alao think that sabine probably knows all about marinette.
We know she's not a former miraculous holder because she's too young, we know she has been small in China from Miraculous World Shanghai and we know that the temple and the monks were missing for more than 100 years, so there's no possible way she had learned anything there. We know she hasn't met Master Fu either, because we know that around the Second World War he was already in Paris (if German troops are already in Paris it should be between 1940-1944), so they haven't met before Sabine moves to Paris.
The reason why Truth asked her mother a different question is because it's logical that her mother would know about her diary. If you ask any other person, does Marinette has a diary, they may not know about it, or where is it, or if she still has it.
Sabine being able to fight for me is just the Chinese trope that all Chinese people know some level of Kung-Fu. Plus, a single flourish doesn't make you a fighter per se. Moreover, Marinette is not a skilled fighter outside her Ladybug form, that there's no connection like it's in the Matrix - lol, I just came but now I know Kung-Fu! So, I wouldn't go deeper into that.
This makes sense cause Sabine is mother of Marinette so Sabine could could have been the previous on IT MAKES SENSE for real and Sabine had skills with the pizza paddle thing like ladynoir
mari: tIkkI, sPoTs On!
sabine: can u shut up
i think sabine know that marinette is ladybug because sabine might heard marinette saying "TIKKI SPOTS ON!" all the time teehee
Sabine definitely knows Marinette is ladybug because Marinette always screams tiki spots on in her room so her mom is just right downstairs so yeah 😜
I know that this was published like 6 months ago but just for info Sabine did get akumatized twice!
But handling emotions isn’t always meaning that she’s ladybug cause ladybug almost got akumatized in season 4 episode Chat Blanc but she didn’t of course because chat noir cataclysm the butterfly
But even tho Sabine got akumatized that doesn’t mean that she isn’t ladybug…
Your proof is understandable and can be almost possible but let’s not forget that if Sabine was ladybug she would definitely control her emotions even though she got akumatized
Plus Marinette does know how to handle her emotions… Handling emotions doesn’t mean that you would NEVER get akumatized
Sad fact that: The voice actor of sabine died😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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I’m pretty sure she knows because she is prob not deaf and heard marinette say “TIKKI SOPTS ON” in her room everyday
Bruh Marinette in her room shouting TIKKI SPATTSS ONNNN HIYAAAA
Sabine's combat skills are probably great because since she grew up in Shanghai, she learned Kung fu. That's all
The evidence proves that Sabine not only knows marinette is ladybug but she was a former miraculous holder! And she lived in shanghai and the temple of the guardians! She might have even been good friends with master fu but probably not because Sabine is much younger then master fu...
well now we've seen her get akumatized, her design was pretty pog
Marinete in her room:TIKI SPOTS ON YAA
Sabine and tom in the kitchen:YA SHUT U......MARINETE IS LADYBUGGG AAAAAAAAA
Sabine knew EXACTLY where her diary was in "Truth" and Mari always yells her transformation in her room so I agree that she knows.
ME: that was what i was thinking!
Tbh yeah that’s true cuz if I was Marinette’s mom and I heard “TIKKI SPOTS ON, YAAA” then ofc I would go upstairs and be like “wtf are you doing”
With those fighting skills she showed, she could be a former Black Cat Miraculous holder. It's just that she looks so comfortable fighting with a staff
Omg after watching this, I'm like...
THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!
No, she wasn’t, Alya says in “Ladybug(episode)” that the last trace of miraculous holders were 200 years ago until ladybug and cat noir showed up