I'LL BE MAKING A PRT 2 TO THIS THEORY VID ON MONDAY SO STAY TUNED CUZ IT'S GETTING CRAZY! 🥰 ------ Just to clarify: It was NOT confirmed that he isn't a sentimonster. I saw when Ezra posted that story but not too long after he removed it and had a different response that I show in this video!! All he said was that it was far-fetched! he never confirmed it to be true or not + Thomas even said that Ezra only knows what he's given so Ezra might not even know whether or not anyone is a sentimonster! Just watch through the video + hear my points :) Let me know your Thoughts + Theories below! ❤️✨
If adrien’s a sentimonster, then, his life just gets sadder than it already is. Imagine: Losing a parent Having no friends until you’re 15 and have to fight for the right to have friends Having a mentally abusive parent (okay, maybe I’m exaggerating this one - but adrien has no freedom because of his father) Having to be perfect Having your father and your mother-figure (Nathalie) be your enemies Having found that your “dead mother” was actually in your basement AND being a sentimonster!
And even biggest fear is being trapped and left all alone- ahh It’s hard to see him smiling so much Also getting declined by his love for ladybug getting declined over and over again AND now Rina Rouge is getting more trust from ladybug than him gets him even more angry and sad to the point he broke a rooftop wall. Chat blanc will return I’m sure QwQ
@@zahrafathima4185 Thomas also confirmed voice actors and voice director know as much as they have read script, they don't wRiTe script and even if they know it, I don't think they'll spoil is this soon! Well, it depends on you, if you believe in sentimonster theories- nice, if you don't- nice or if you're in the middle- nice, because at the end of the day, these are theories (till now).
after season 4 and ephemeral, i can’t help but believe that adrien is a sentimonster. the way adrien was trying so hard to resist being akumatized, and then gabriel suddenly touched his ring and asked if he understood, and then adrien’s face just suddenly changed completely to nothing and gave in to his father. i don’t know but that was kind of suspicious to me. i’ve seen so many people saying that adrien obeyed because he was being akumatized. but i don’t think that’s necessarily true. gabriel can’t really CONTROL his victims. i think akumitizations deepens their negative emotions (in addition, gabriel’s manipulation) so they won’t want to resist or it would be extremely difficult to resist. but if you try hard enough, you CAN resist and break free. alya resisted an akumitization. so i don’t think shadow moth can force his victims into giving into him. with that being said, it looked like adrien was doing everything in his power to break free. he REALLY didn’t want to be akumatized. i feel like if he was able to continue trying, he would have broken free. but gabriel touched his ring, and it looked like adrien was being controlled and had no choice but to give in. and the fact that the writers made sure to show gabriel touching his ring has to have some sort of significance. you can’t deny that that must be important. anyway, if you read this whole essay lol thanks.
Also on the cat blanc, same thing happened he got triggered when he saw his mom and Gabriel being the villain. He was also akumatised even when he's in his cat noire costume
Yes that's true may be writers didn't work in depth before but afterwards they are constantly highlighting Gabriel rubbing his ring and Adrien immediately obeying it so that makes sense
In the second to last episode too, when Gabriel finds "Adrien" aka Felix in his study Felix tells him he doesn't want to go on the trip he goes to touch his ring as if to get "Adrien" to comply but had just given it to Natalie moments before
I feel like felix is the senteimonster and gabriel knows it, in the ep "gabriel agreste " when gabriel caught felix looking at the painting of Emile he said "just a snap of a finger I can make u disappear" and that is mostly how sentiemonster are destroyed by the creator of the senteimonster
Nah, Felix didn’t know Hawk Moth’s powers, so since SentiGabriel was pretending to be Hawk Moth, he was exaggerating his powers because if Gabriel wasn’t Hawk Moth then he shouldn’t _really_ know his powers and Felix definitely doesn’t. That line is just manipulation, no real significance.
To add to the theory of Adrien being a sentimonster, whenever Adrien asks Gabriel if he can do things like everybody else. Gabriel always replies with “because you’re not like everybody else” This could be addressing that he knows Adrien is a sentimonster and that he is different.
Adrien is not a sentimonster and he’s not perfect! He got mad when he was left out from secrets and he isn’t patient either. Some people are just really good at being kind!
SPOILER FOR RISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Sorry to break it to you but i think they are sentimonsters according to the episode risk. In the end Felix disobeyed Gabriel but when Natalie (who had the Agreste Ring) said Adrien its time to go Felix complied. (btw Felix was preteding to be Adrien at the end of that episode i wont say why just in case someone reading this has not watched it yet)
@@anastas4339 MAYBE SPOILER: This doesn't necessarily prove that true; Felix had just found out something shocking and might have changed his plans which we don't know the full extent of yet. The reaction was most likely how "Adrien" would have reacted; normally we know he wouldn't have the guts to do that. There is too much information going against the theory for me to believe they could be sentimonsters. I wonder if Felix noticed Natalie had the ring after seeing what he did...
My Theory: Felix is Adrian’s twin but Amiile can’t have children so Emiile and Gabriel gave Amiile Felix. So the Rings are symbolizing Adrian and Felix that were separated at birth because Felix stole one and Adrian has one in his house
i think if your theory is remotely correct, it would be the opposite: emilie couldn’t have kids and adrien was given to them. what would prove that is that the painting of emilie that is in gabriel’s office is a replica of a real life one. and the real life one’s story is that the lady had a disease and couldn’t have children. idk how to explain that lmao
Cat Noir didn't malfunction when he got hit. sentimonsters dont just malfunction when they get cataclysmed. They go nuts, they go on a rampage. This happen with Reflekdoll, Lighteye, and Dynamite Banana Monkey. Cat noir didn't just start going crazy, it was kinda the opposite. It's like he got punch in the ribs and his ribs are sore or something and it hard for his core to support him.
I agree with this one. It didn't look like he was malfunctioning so much as being in a crap ton of pain. I'd fall over too if I tried to pole vault with a broken rib.
I've been reading around a lot of these theories, and I gotta say: What makes most sense to me is that Felix is the original one. Adrien is a copy, since his mother was infertile. That is why Adrien is supposedly the perfect version of Felix, the kind one that looks just like him. Which makes sense as to why Felix no longer likes him- he realized he is a copy of himself, but better- who would like someone that is the literal upgraded version of you? That is why Adrien doesn't look like Gabriel, he looks like their mothers and maybe, just a bit, like Felix's father
Something about Felix in the miraculous anime: He was heartless. Basically no love at all. And he also had the black cat and if anyone is superstitious then you should know that black cats are bad luck.. he is stuck with the miraculous and is trying to get a kiss from Ladybug to break his bad luck streak- just some back ground info yall might not know
Yeah, and the same with adrien and she didn’t get dizzy spells. And what if adrien isn’t a sentimonster but what if those 2 rings could create a real life human that has their own mind cause sentimonsters are controlled and adrien is perfect cause if he was he wouldn’t sneak out, and do all those little things that couldn’t make him perfect in nay way so what if those 2 rings made a power to create a normal human and if you think that’s a bad power well what fi you need an extra buddy fighting with you to help you oh there you go. And that would change the love life and the story and it may ruin the show.
@@sirelizar4514 what if Felix is actually a sentimonster to watch over adrien when they were younger but he didn’t make him perfect cause it may give away he’s a sentimonster, and Felix wanted the rings to make him perfect and control himself and the logo kinda looks like 2 circles but there’s a line between the circles so it could be a bow in arrow with a the bow in the 2 circles. But idk I feel like it may be better if they weren’t sentimonsters cause marinette would be crushed and adrien could die and I don’t want that, and that Chloe had the same flower well Gabriel and Audrey were friends so maybe Audrey gave them friendship flower pins but they split apart and gave them to different peopled they loved, and with the cataclysm I think he was only affected and didn’t die cause he was cat noir when he got cataclysm cause plagg didn’t die or get affected at all he just malfunction. And one the director of English miraculous said that’s a far reach but it is possible saying that it may not happen.
@@StillSaber yeah and adrien is only perfect for his father but his cat noir side is like his inner ego I just think like you said that theirs lost of flaws with this idea and how would either of them be sentimonsters if the peacock miraculous was hidden away cause one the miraculous is hidden away and not used and not in control of their sentimonsters (if they didn’t get rid of the sentimonster already) turns to stone and is left behind like in the episode feast
Sentimonsters don’t have feeling so how can Chat Noir love Ladybug so for my opinion i don’t think Adrien is a sentimonster but who knows Felix could be one. Edit: Sorry for the whole fight in the comments just wanted to tell my opinion :D
I don't really prefer Adrien being a sentimonster, but for Felix, it sounds more realistic. He was so keen on getting the twin rings, and maybe those rings contain his amok which is why Amilie wanted it back. However, someone I would think is a sentimonster can be Nathalie. Her last name means heartless, she could've been created by Emilie to take care of Adrien, she doesn't seem to care when Adrien is being emotionally abused by Gabriel, plus Gabriel is practically using her and she's okay with it. So maybe, Gabriel has the amok of SentiNathalie in the twin rings.
Nope, I'm sorry to pop your bubble, but we had an episode a bit ago where her voice is on background, and she says how she got attached to Grabriel, And Adrian. We learned that she was indeed in love with Gabriel, AND that she felt bad for adrien. Therefore I think it is almost impossible for her to be a sentimonster
@@skyicy7383 Just because she loved Gabriel doesn't mean she truly did? Also if she really did care about Adrien she would, AND I MEAN WOULD, defend him when Gabriel is literally emotionally abusing him. Sentimonsters can be created in a certain way, to have emotion or anything really. But if Gabriel is controlling her, it would make sense why she isn't standing up for Adrien. Emilie would probably have created Nathalie as an assistant of Gabriel, to follow whatever order he pleases.
@@birinsan8109 Well if they're created as a human would be, yea probably. I got the information that sentimonsters can be different in their own way based on the way they're created from Thomas's twitter.
If Adrien were a Sentimonster, then Mayura would have sensed his amok at some time or another. She's also faced Chat Noir directly! THAT would have revealed his Identity to her!! So.. No. NOT a Sentimonster.
frl all the superpowers probably work like that so if a hawkmoth of the past akumatized something the present hawkmoth should be able to control it to certain degree so if we use that theory that means if a ladybug of the past used her lucky charm but never solved the problem the current ladybug should be able to fix it so it should be same for illusions shields immobilizations etc
@@lkapee Emily is not the only one who can sense the amok, when master fu created that sentimonster a long time ago Natalie was able to sense that that statue was a sentimonster
Is no one gonna talk about how Emily looks so young?!?! She looks almost the same age as Adrien or a little older?! and i dont think she died when Adrien was younger because in some episodes where Adrien is on his computer, he has a picture of him and his mom anf he doesnt appear to be a child in the photo.
She's not that old and she was an actress, her twin sister looks exactly the same. Some people just remain looking young. Depending on when they had Adrien she may have only been 32. She doesn't look too young for that.
If Adrien was a sentimonster, we really need a massive explanation as to why Mayura or Shadow moth has figured out that Adrien is Chat Noir as it was shown that Natalie could tell Feast was one from a picture
Gabriel once had a suspicion that Adrien is cat noir if he really could control Adrien he would've forced him into revealing that he's Cat Noir but he didn't that means Gabriel can't control Adrien hence he is not a Sentimonster
Fun fact: in Miraculous Ladybug PV Version Bridgette and Alya were suppose to be enemies but the animators decided it would be much better if they were bff :)
In the episode Santa claws, adrien said to Santa that he lost his mom an year ago. And he is having a photo of him and his mom in his computer. I Don't think that Adrien is a senti monster.
There are three things which make me believe that Adrien isn’t a sentimonster, no. 1 is: in the episode lady Wifi, when lady WiFi was about to unmask ladybug, ladybug said this: “My mask isn’t coming off because it is magical” so that could mean that the costume is also magical and the costume and mask are both cataclysm-proof. So what if Cat noir’s mask and suit are both cataclysm-proof just like ladybug’s? But I’m not sure because the miraculouses can be damaged by cataclysm. no. 2 is: We all know that Gabriel suspects that Adrien is cat noir, but if Adrien was a sentimonster, Gabriel could’ve just ordered him to reveal if he is cat noir, and then Gabriel could’ve just ordered him to give the miraculous after finding out he is cat noir. And no. 3 is: When he was cataclysmed by miraculer (akumatized Sabrina), He just had some pain in his chest. But the sentimonsters go on a rampage and destroy anything that crosses their path, so they become even more aggressive when cataclysmed. But if Adrien was a sentimonster, he would’ve went on a cataclysm spree, but he didn’t and instead, just had some pain in his chest. So I don’t think that Adrien could be a sentimonster, that’s way too dark.
In episode Ephemeral 1:00 ,15:25 Adrien stopped resisting when Gabriel touching his ring So one can controls Adrien another one controls Felix And that can also explain why Gabriel is being so strict to Adrien cause he’s afraid of that sentimonster would lose control without his creator who is Emilie That’s why Felix need to steal it But I’m still wondering how these ring works if they are miraculous and why they can control them
Adrien definitly not senti monsters but Felix might be since from your theory you saying that ring might have to do with something. But personally prefer he is not. 😁😁
Hmm... could be true! In the episode were Alya’s sisters gets akumitized, hawk moth says that children should do what they want and should be free, but he keeps Adrien locked up in his house?? 🤔
Adding to the „adrien was modeled/made after felix“ That emilie painting is based on a real painting that has this backstory: the woman in the painting was infertile and couldn’t have children. She was very jealous of her sister having children and later on fell into a COMA and passed away. Now why would adrien be modeled after felix? because emilie was upset and jealous of her twin sister having felix. Futhermore just like the woman on the painting, emilie also fell into a coma. 👀
I have a theory that Felix is a senti monster and not Adrien. So they already confirmed Adrien wasn’t a senti monster, but my theory was Emilie And Gabriel weren’t able to have children so Emilie stole her sister’s child “ Adrien “ and replaced him with a senti monster which is Felix. So basically Adrien is the real felix Evidence 1- All episodes are usually named after Villains or Senti monsters, but the episode Felix he wasn’t really the villain. Evidence 2- In the anime Version of MLB felix was suppose to be cat noir but was replaced with Adrien. Evidence 3- Felix being a senti monster could explain why him and Adrien look so alike, they look like identical twins. you can’t have identical twins unless both parents are twins. And it could explain why Felix is much meaner because he was created with a broken miraculous ( Peacock miraculous )
I saw a comic on adrien being a sentimonster, in which when adrien was little he and his mom got in to a car accident where he was severely hurt and died. Emilie used the peacock miraculous to give life to him making him half sentimonster, now if you see adrien was home schooled most of his life and how he is watched most of the time, probably due to this accident that took place so he would never get hurt again. If you go by this comic and the time where his mom disappeared we can reform this story to make sense of how your theory of adrien being a sentimonster and Emilie’s death/coma being explained. The story would go like this: Adrien is 1 year smaller than he was in s1. Adrien and his mom get in to an accident and he dies. Emilie uses the peacock miraculous and turns in to her transformed version and then gives adrien life, making her wedding band the place that holds the amock. Emilie dies/goes in pot a coma as a consequence. But this would not make sense with the home school theory so he would prob have to be younger and Emillie’s disappearance would have to be explained by a different reason. Also it’s so true adrien is perfect so it weighs more into the sentimonster theory.
True make a lot of sense but why would Emily would bring him back tho she knew that the miraculous was damaged I hope they bring back Emily but I is a chance that someone would die if they do that do any have any more tea about adrain being a sentimonster ??
My sister said that if Adrien was actually a sentimonster, then Natalie or whoever holding peacock miraculous would sense and know if that thing is a sentimonster.
Natalie can’t sense sentimonsters, she can only sense amoks so if the amok is not with Adrien and truly is in the twin rings then she won’t be able to sense it
Tbh, I think either Felix and Adrien are secretly twins, or one/both of them are sentimonsters. But here's the thing, for them to be secret twins/if Felix was a senti, then Amelie would know. And it's only logical that she wouldn't want her son to find out. Yet in the episode Felix, she said "aw Gabriel, don't they look like twins?" Why would she want to plant that seed of doubt in the kids heads????? Why would she want to out hers and her sisters secret????? Weird. Which makes me think that she doesn't know about what going on. Leaving the only option-that Adrien has to be a senti.
Ages ago I learnt to trust your theories on my life. I do believe Adrien is a sentimonster and after watching Gabriel Agreste, I definitely know that Felix is!
No, if he was a sentimonster, no one would like the show and the directors wouldn’t want their show to be disliked by all the millions of people that used to watch miraculous ladybug, and also Adrien being a sentimonster? No, that’s too dark. I don’t think the directors want to break our hearts because Adrien, the second most loved character (Because he is Cat noir and we all love Cat noir and when Adrien is Cat noir, he’s not blind, I mean he calls Marinette “His princess” and he’s being himself) to be a sentimonster
There are people on UA-cam claiming Luka is the real villain therefore I was wondering if people should choose Adrienette over Lukanette or not exactly
If Adrien is a sentimonster the he would have followed Adrien without hesitation which he didn't did And if he is a sentimonster wayzz or master fu could have detected that he is sentimonster
I’m just hoping that there is gonna be an episode where Adrien STOPS SAYING MARINETTE IS JUST A FRIEND we all know she’s more then that, in the Disney+ Miraculous movie he does stuff that literally shows that he likes her 🐾🐞
I also think Adrien is a sentimonster as in episode risk Felix listens to Natalie who has the ring but doesn’t listen to Gabriel. It also says that Adrien claims that’i am afraid to stand up to him,even if he is my father and I love him and I know that he loves me still it is hard for me’
So, when you say Chat “malfunctioned” when he broke his ribs, wouldn’t that be a natural reaction? I mean, say he wasn’t a sentimonster. If he broke his ribs, attempted to hide it, and tried to perform normal things, and failed, it wouldn’t necessarily be “malfunctions”. also, as we see in Reflekdoll, the sentimonster goes basically insane, and is unable to control itself. Adrien remained calm and fought through his injurys, so wouldn’t that work against this theory? Keep up the good work! 💚
And if Adrian is a sentimonster so catnoir is a sentimonster too and peacock miraculous has a power to smell sentimonsters so why Nathalie couldn't smell catnoir ? She will difenatly known that catnoir is a sentimonster
@@Only_aj_jess but Adrien have so many emotions . Sentimonster can have their own emotions when they're independent, but apparently have no free will or emotions when someone else controls them, and reflect the emotions of the holder of the amokized object . ...
@@weirdpotato7097 yes but he also was like "what when you guys did ever think of that " like it's not possible or maybe it is but sentimonsters don't fall in love or when he got cataclysmed he didnt go crazy as a sentimonster he was supposed to be crazy after that like you know what I mean?felix could be a sentimonster because he is just too perfect and has his face expresion the same always, didnt fall in love and maybe because we saw only a episode with him but that episode cant be just a simple episode .it has to be something that means a thing .
OKAY HEAR ME OUT SO WHAT IF: Adrien is a sentimonster, and his amok is BOTH of the Graham de Vanilly twin rings (like they were unified when the amok was put inside them? Does that make sense?) and Adrien looks exactly like Felix because his appearance was based on his cousin? And what if Amelie and Felix know this and they want the rings to be able to take control of Adrien? That would also explain why Gabriel wants to hold onto them so badly. And so far Felix only has one ring, but if my theory is remotely correct, then he would need both rings to control Adrien, so that's why he hadn't been able to do it yet.
why didn't mayura sense chat noir was a sentimonster? If she did she would probably tell Gabriel who would figure out it is adrien because he of all people would know if Adrien was a senti-monster.
EXACTLY what I was thinking!! Especially because in one of the season 4 episodes, we saw that an akuma can be split into two separate objects. Idk remember the name, it was the one where juleka’s parents were fighting. I think the writers chose to put that in there to show that an akuma (or amok!) can be separated into two objects. It also explains why Adrien tried, for apparently the first time, to go to school in the first season! It’s as if he COULDN’T make his own decisions when his mother was around. He only tried to go against his father and go to school after his mother disappeared! When she was around, she had a ring and Gabriel had a ring, so together they had full control over Adrien. When she went into her magical coma, she no longer had her half of control over adrien, so now he has more ability to disobey his father! But now, Gabe is wearing one ring and Felix has the other ring somewhere in London. We know from the episode startrain that the butterfly miraculous holder can’t communicate with the akuma over long distances, so I’m thinking that Felix has no control over Adrien as long as he’s in London. It’s either that, or there is one amok per ring, one for adrien as cast by Emilie, and one for Felix as cast by Felix’s dad. I only think this because it doesn’t make sense why Felix is so desperate to get his hands on those rings. Both Emilie and Felix’s dad died/disappeared at around the same time. The broken peacock miraculous probably made them both sick, but it’s kinda weird that they both disappeared at almost the same time. I have thought of a reason for that. One last thing!! Marinette’s maternal family is from China, where the miraculous box is from. Adrien’s parents have been making him learn Chinese (probably since birth, seeing how it is very difficult to learn and he is very good at it). I don’t think that’s a coincidence! I haven’t figured out a theory about that but there’s something there… maybe Sabine used to be the ladybug holder lol Okay I’m done
So we know that Master Fu knew all of the identities of the hero’s just in case he had to take their miraculous but then why doesn’t Marrinette know Cat Noirs identity
Guys hear me out! Basically in 'Representation' they show us the play which explains everything to marinette. Now comes the thing, In the play they show us that one of the sisters get PREGNANT, as in a real human child and that the husband of the other sister is jealous and threatens the husband of the sister that got pregnant. The husband of the sister that got pregnant is obviously Gabriel as it is told in the play that he is a tailor and we know that he becomes a very famous fashion designer. So Gabriel offers the peacock's miraculous (we also know that he was the one who found the peacock and butterfly miraculous) to the husband of the other sister, Felix's father. Now we know that Felix's father hated him and used to always treat him badly and it is also shown in the play how the son of the other sister was looked upon as a monster by the father as it was technically not his own (and was only created out of jealousy). Hence to conclude, Adrien is a real person and NOT a sentimonster. Felix definitely is and probably Kagami as well.
I think the reason Adrien "malfunctions" when struck w cataclysm (and not dies lol) from Sabrina is simply because she took away the powers and tried to replicate it. like, does ladybug's power give Sabrina lucky charms the same way it does to LB (or Adrien in that swap episode)? nope. so, what Sabrina had was sth of a copyclysm and that's why it didn't work the way it should.
the suit probably protected him mostly, ladybug has taken some pretty big hits and she came out mostly fine. I mean it is a magic suit and they do have heightened abilities when they transform.
@@Notfunny494 To be fair, GABRIEL has the ring, HAWK MOTH doesn’t. If Gabriel wanted access to the ring in that moment he’d have to detransform(severing his connection to Gorizilla), put the ring aside, retransform, pick up the ring, and _then_ he’d be able to control him. By the way, I don’t necessarily believe this theory. I haven’t even watched the video yet but I’m just saying this under the assumptions that Adrien is a Sentimonster and the ring has the amok.
I don’t think Adrien is a sentimonster because in the New York special the robot girl I don’t know her name she said the miraclous are meant to coufused the minds of humans and if Adrien was a sentimonster he would have found ladybugs miraclous
Well remember, If Adrien is a sentimonster, then he was probably made to be a sentimonster who is exactly like a human by Emilie, which caused her to fall into a coma - and if he is a sentimonster who's exactly like a human, then it means that Aeon saw him as a human, rather than a sentimonster-
Dont you think this theory is started to be annoying? Because he is clearly not sentimonster. Sentimonsters are perfect creations so they shouldnt feel sick. Adrien is allergic to feathers so he cant be Sentimonster. Sentimonsters need have amoktised object with them to have free will, I didn't saw something like that near Adrien so he is not sentimonster
@@LittleJohn1 i totally agree Whatever I watch everyone is just talking about adrien being sentimonster even if its confirmed that he is not Its really annoying
6:47 No, Adrian isn't perfect because he has some weakness too. Ladybug is his weakness. He even struggles to use the snake miraculous unlike Luka. He also doesn't always make the right decision and that causes someone to get akumatized. He has these flaws so it means that he is NOT perfect.
Well to be honest most of these things happen when Gabriel is distracted and isn't in proper control of adrien or even paying attention to him so adrien falls from perfection a little, like a mild malfunction. Sentimonsters malfunction when their owners aren't in control...
In the episode Mr Pigeon 72 Adrien in only allergic to Pigeon feathers so technically every time he was around the amok, he would sneeze. And if he was a sentimonster then wouldn't he be a bit broken or run down after a while? Also what if Gabriel and Emilie had used the Ladybug and Cat Noir miraculous to make Adrien? Then it would be a life given to a life taken. Adrien had life given to him and Emilie had her life taken. Also one more, if Felix was the sentimonster then maybe that's why he doesn't have much... emotion. Because he only shows cunning and this face -_- Does any of this make sense because my family doesn't get it
Well its because he is mentakky abysed and didnt have friends other than Chloe so he doesnt understand other people's emotions. You guys are blind, he was abused by his father cmon.
About the peacock miraculous: I think it had been already broken when Emilie started wearing it from when Master Fu tried to flee from the temple Feast destroyed. As Fu was running he might've accidentally stepped on the jewel
I really like this theory but I think that maybe Amelie and Emelie had a hard time having kids,and maybe they used the rings to make a wish?Idk just an idea
The theory abt the twin rings still gets me because in risk when we watch the scene of adrien and Lila practicing for the ad Gabriel says “two souls, one heart, one mind, first love”
Theory 1: Felix is a sentimonster, possibly because somebody in the comments said that senti monsters don't have feelings, and remember the episode Ladybug? When she exposed herself that she was a senti monster? And she was side by side with Mayura? Kind of reminds me of Felix's face when he met Adrien again. But then again when he got the ring he had an evil feeling on his face, so... Who knows. Theory 2: Maybe Emilie and the aunt own the Graham Twin Rings, because they're twins and that they used to own those 2 rings and that they were Miraculous's too. (Maybe they are senti monsters too???) Theory 3: The Graham Twin Rings ARE MIRACULOUS'S. Remember the old kwami place before Ladybug was guardian? If you didn't notice, in the middle is more circles, they look like spots for more kwami's, and if you didn't realise, one of the circles is half white. It could be that the twin souls you were talking about is a kwami's in the same body, half some other guy other half some other guy. And maybe one side is evil and one side is not evil. Bunnix's miraculous is hidden aswell, so it's possible that those rings are hidden miraculouses. Theory 4: When the Graham Twin Rings (If they are miraculouses.) are not hidden, both of the rings could mold together and stuff. Theory 5: The Graham Twin Rings, one of them are a copy made 15 years ago??? From an experiment tested from that Miraculous Book Gabriel owns?
I was also thinking, what if the distortion power that protects the miraculous holders from being recognised in their suits also stops them from being recognised as sentimonsters? 🤔
this is a really good theory, but I believe the only reason he didn't get "cataclysmed" is because he had his miraculous on which could have protected him from being fully harmed from such a power - thus only weakening him.
I think Felix is so antagonistic because he knows he’s a sentimonster and he has become bitter because of it or it could be how he is controlled as a sentimonster
Omg wait what if Adrien's bodyguard was a sentimonster. It would explain why he never speaks. And if he was a sentimonster then he would probably know that Gabriel is hawk moth which would explain why he looks angry every time Gabriel goes near Adrien.
Same! I love Maya's theories too, but I'd be heartbroken for the Marinette and Adrien ship to end, maybe Marinette would still have a crush on Adrien even if he ends up being a sentimonster? Idk...it's not likely❤️❤️❤️
Hello, I'm Angel and I have my own theory. I agree that Adrien is a sentimonster for this reason: everytime Gabriel Agreste touches his ring, Adrien immediately obeys him even if Adrien knows he's doing the right thing. Here are some proofs: during the Ephemeral episode, Gabriel finds out that his son is Chat Noir. In the morning, he woke him up and led him into the underground section where he took the opportunity to akumatize him while Adrien trying to resist it but as soon as ShadowMoth touches his ring, he quickly obeyed him which made me think that an ordinary person won't do that. Look, Adrien loves Ladybug. He will definitely and probably stand with Ladybug and would rather fight or be against by his own father since it's the right thing to do yet it ended up the opposite when ShadowMoth touched his ring. Chloe can even manage to resist HawkMoth's akumatization since she stands for Ladybug and righteousness, in the Miraculer episode. In the Gang Of Secrets, Alya de-akumatized herself due to Marinette's encouraging words. In Rocketear, Nino stop himself from being akumatized for knowing the truth. Someone who loves a person will always fight for him/her or sacrifice him/herself unless he/she is being possessed by an Amok, LOL. To know more, Megaleech and Ephemeral episodes strengthens my theory. Thank you.
this is an interesting theory, very well written! i agree that others were able to reject the akuma and adrien wasn't however none of their emotions compared to his... imagine finding out that your dad was hawk moth and that your mother who you've been under the impression was missing is right there inside your dad's underground lair? i think those emotions are way too overpowering, and just can't be forgotten about. same with marinette. if adrien hadn't transformed she would've still been akumatized, because she was just forced to break up with someone she loves dearly. the power of their emotions would've made them perfect prey for an akuma because those are strong, intense human emotions. and that's what hawk moth depends on
Adrien is just like a normal human. He makes mistakes just like a human. An example of this is when he lied to his body guard in the episode Party crasher. Or when he snuck away to go to school in the episode Origins. Cat Noir also tried to reveal his identity to ladybug when he used the snake miraculous but had to use the power.
I dont think Adrien is a sentimonster cause in the episode "Ladybug" when mayura took the amok from the sentimonster ladybug, Adrien didnt feel a thing.. but maybe mayura can only take one amok at a time like hawkmoth so I dont know 😅 thats my idea😊
I think it’s more probable that Felix is a sentimonster though, the Graham De Vanily (sorry if I wrote it wrong) theory is a very good one, the rings holding the amok, those two rings being a missing miraculous from the box of the New York special :0, like WOW. I could expect that happening Maya thx for the theory!
Just to clarify but if Thomas's message was translated from France it would be normal for him to say "s'il" which means him because in Frensch the pronoun "they" doesn't exist but great Video!!!!
I really hope Adrien is a sentimonster because it would just make the entire show and plot so much more confusing and complex. It would make the story so much deeper as characters would struggle with learning and accepting this fact. While I absolutely LOVE this theory, im not sure if Adrien really is a sentimonster because I don’t know if the writers would take that route, and so while I hope it’s somehow true I cant say I think it is.
Ur just thinking about the show but its a lot more for me yk..our feelings are attached to those characters..if Adrien turns out to be a sentimonster Marinette would be heartbroken and the fandom would be even more heartbroken than them bcz them being together is what we really want..
My thoughts: If Adrien was a senti monster then wouldnt mayura be able to sense the presence of a sentimonster. And ik if he was a sentimonster Nathalie would probably already know that he was one. But in the episode Feast we know that they dont need the item where the amok is in to feel the presence. So when mayura is fighting chat noir wouldnt she be able to feel the presence of a sentimonster. And now my question is can sentimonsters get akumatized. And if they can then that explains chat blanc
You almost hit the nail on the head. The twin rings are gran de vanity treasure. I believe when Emil was born the rings were used to divide her into her and her sister. Parents put rings on her and slid them apart. Then one of the two sister had a boy and rings were used again to create Adrien from Felix. That the two are half of a whole. I think Amil and Felix wanting the rings back is too prevent him and Adrien being fused back together. And Amil wants to use the ring to fuse herself and Emil back together then split them in hopes of curing Emil and bringing her back. Those rings are why the Gran De Vanity family has twins in their family.
WAIT WAIT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING! Hawk moth wants the miraculous to make a “wish” right? Well we saw in robustas that that wish could be to become human. Up until now we’ve been assuming that wish was to help emile but what if it was ACTUALLY to turn Adrian into a human instead of a sentimonster. We know Gabriel and Natalie don’t like keeping Adrian in the dark about being hawkmoth becuase they believe they are doing the right thing, AND We know using the peacock miraculous damaged Emile maybe the reason she’s unable to wake up is becuase she’s still using it to keep Adrian alive similar to how feast was still being kept alive even though Fu no longer had the peacock miraculous!
and also whenever gabriel is giving(freckin') orders to our cute blind sunshine(adrien) he twists the ring he always wearing on his hand and remember ephemeral episode he twist something,being hawkmoth,on his hand/glove and what he wears on his that hand.... THE RING!!!
I totally agree to your theory with Adrien being a sentimonster. I was watching Miraculous Secrets last night when I came across an episode where Gabriel was saying "If it wasn't for Nathalie, we wouldn't have found the miraculouses." This isn't the same thing that he said, but something like that. He also mentioned that if they hadn't used the peacock miraculous, Emily will still be with them. Gabriel was saying all this in front of Emily in the basement. Them using the peacock miraculous to create something that led to Emily being in a coma in the basement is a strong lead if Adrien's a half or full sentimonster. I mentioned "half" because maybe they used the miraculous to save Adrien? What are your thoughts on this? Also, can you make a video explaining the meaning of the Golden Painting of Emily? I think one of the reasons they've used the peacock miraculous is because Emily and Gabriel couldn't have a child. So they created one instead? The golden portrait in real life is the painting of "Adele". I know there's something much more about this, and I'd like to know your thoughts on this one. Thanks!
Another reason that adrien might be a sentimonster is because in the episode Felix around the end right after Felix took one the the rings, Gabriel’s, when Gabriel told adrien to stay in the house he didn’t listen but every other time adrien does what he is told
okay im not really on board with the whole sentimonster theory, but i gotta admit that this video was pretty convincing. i do have to disagree on 8:42 point though. thomas has tweeted before that the suits are like protective armor, weaking the cataclysm's power which is why he didn't crumble
Ephemeral gave me sentimonster chills. Cause (SPOILER), Gabriel touched his ring and then said some french things and then adrien listened to him. Same when he was hawkmoth, the scene with Adrien's mom. So yeah, btw i hate that Luka reversed everything
theories: i think what if adrien and Emily were in the car and got to an accident and adrien was bleeding emily did everything she could to bring him back and used the peacock miracoulus and used her ring to bring him back and emily suffered from all the coughing ..... thats all btw i love ur vids bye!!!!
The 'symbol' inside of the Native American miracle box is actually the miraculous sat there. You can tell as the other symbols inside the box are in a circle as well as them always been the same size. Maybe the twin rings are a miraculous just not in the Native American or Chinese miracle boxes :)
@@Axhena yeah I know that the rings are most likely just normal rings, but it would be cool as we've seen hidden miraculous before that have no kwamis (rabbit miraculous)
YESS!!! I definitely think Adrien is a sentimonster now that season 4 is finally done because a lot of people might have not noticed in the episode "Risk" Felix dressed up as ADrien and went to Gabriel and said "I am not going I don't wanna go" Gabriel was looking for the ring on his hand so he could twist it but since he gave it to Natalie she twisted it and said "go Adrien " and after Felix said yes Natalie and also in the episodes in the past when he twists his ring Adrien said "yes father" and maybe that's why Felix wanted the ring so bad so he couldn't be controlled and maybe Gabriel and Emillie created Adrien and eneded up making a good sentimonster and bad and they just gave it to Felix's mom or maybe she was a sentimonster all along that's why she also wanted the ring
Felix and Adrien are technically biologically half brothers. Let me explain. Amelie and Emilie are biologically the same person. Identical twins of the same sex have the exact same DNA, as the DNA is just split and not coming from two different eggs and two different sperms. Due to this, most twins children look alike even if they have different fathers/mothers because of them sharing that same strand of DNA as TECHNICALLY they are half siblings even if they come from different parents COMPLETELY bc of their mothers DNA. That wouldn’t explain why Adrien and Felix look identical, but it closes half the case of them being sentimonsters. Now about some of the theories you mentions about adrien. The only one that didn’t make sense is the Miraculor episode theory about him being cataclysmed. You said that Cat Noir malfunctioned after being cataclysmed just like the sentimonsters in reflectdoll and queen banana. But you failed to take into consideration, in the episode Ladybug, we learned that while transformed, they are nearly invensable, and that it took a great force for them to even be hurt a little bit. In Style Queen, we see Master Fu naming the times Plaggs cataclysms destroyed. We’ve seen the Cat miraculous being just as dangerous, just more controlled and precise with the using of the jewel. This fact along with what Cat Noir said in Ladybug would make the most logical sense to why Cat Noir was in the pain he was in with what we have from miraculous straight forward vs a stretched idea of Adrien being a sentimonster. I really like your theories, and listening to what you have on the table.
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Just to clarify: It was NOT confirmed that he isn't a sentimonster. I saw when Ezra posted that story but not too long after he removed it and had a different response that I show in this video!! All he said was that it was far-fetched! he never confirmed it to be true or not + Thomas even said that Ezra only knows what he's given so Ezra might not even know whether or not anyone is a sentimonster! Just watch through the video + hear my points :)
Let me know your Thoughts + Theories below! ❤️✨
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edit - omg wait im the first one to reply
also how do we know that emily died by using the peacock miraculous ?
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If adrien’s a sentimonster, then, his life just gets sadder than it already is.
Imagine:
Losing a parent
Having no friends until you’re 15 and have to fight for the right to have friends
Having a mentally abusive parent (okay, maybe I’m exaggerating this one - but adrien has no freedom because of his father)
Having to be perfect
Having your father and your mother-figure (Nathalie) be your enemies
Having found that your “dead mother” was actually in your basement
AND being a sentimonster!
Right?! 😭
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She’s in a coma
His first friend was Chloe back when they were toddlers
And even biggest fear is being trapped and left all alone- ahh
It’s hard to see him smiling so much
Also getting declined by his love for ladybug getting declined over and over again AND now Rina Rouge is getting more trust from ladybug than him gets him even more angry and sad to the point he broke a rooftop wall. Chat blanc will return I’m sure QwQ
That’ll be sad if adrien was a sentimonster marinette would be heartbroken
he is not it was comfirmed by the voice director
@@zahrafathima4185 ikr
@@zahrafathima4185 Thomas also confirmed voice actors and voice director know as much as they have read script, they don't wRiTe script and even if they know it, I don't think they'll spoil is this soon! Well, it depends on you, if you believe in sentimonster theories- nice, if you don't- nice or if you're in the middle- nice, because at the end of the day, these are theories (till now).
She could just date him being a sentimonster, no problem.
@@zahrafathima4185 kk
after season 4 and ephemeral, i can’t help but believe that adrien is a sentimonster. the way adrien was trying so hard to resist being akumatized, and then gabriel suddenly touched his ring and asked if he understood, and then adrien’s face just suddenly changed completely to nothing and gave in to his father. i don’t know but that was kind of suspicious to me.
i’ve seen so many people saying that adrien obeyed because he was being akumatized. but i don’t think that’s necessarily true. gabriel can’t really CONTROL his victims. i think akumitizations deepens their negative emotions (in addition, gabriel’s manipulation) so they won’t want to resist or it would be extremely difficult to resist. but if you try hard enough, you CAN resist and break free. alya resisted an akumitization. so i don’t think shadow moth can force his victims into giving into him.
with that being said, it looked like adrien was doing everything in his power to break free. he REALLY didn’t want to be akumatized. i feel like if he was able to continue trying, he would have broken free. but gabriel touched his ring, and it looked like adrien was being controlled and had no choice but to give in. and the fact that the writers made sure to show gabriel touching his ring has to have some sort of significance. you can’t deny that that must be important.
anyway, if you read this whole essay lol thanks.
Also on the cat blanc, same thing happened he got triggered when he saw his mom and Gabriel being the villain. He was also akumatised even when he's in his cat noire costume
Yes that's true may be writers didn't work in depth before but afterwards they are constantly highlighting Gabriel rubbing his ring and Adrien immediately obeying it so that makes sense
In the second to last episode too, when Gabriel finds "Adrien" aka Felix in his study Felix tells him he doesn't want to go on the trip he goes to touch his ring as if to get "Adrien" to comply but had just given it to Natalie moments before
I havent watched that episode but saw a clip of that scene and i thought the same thing
Yeah
If Adrian is a sentimonester it will explain why he is so clueless about Mari feelings
Fr lmao
probably
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OMG LOL! YES THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
Lmao
If he is a sentimonster my childhood will be ruined.
Yes.
same, i used to watch the show when i was 5 (i still watch it lol)
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Don’t worry the theory has been officially debunked and he is not a sentimonster
@@melfejsiogem AAAH THANK THE LORD
I feel like felix is the senteimonster and gabriel knows it, in the ep "gabriel agreste " when gabriel caught felix looking at the painting of Emile he said "just a snap of a finger I can make u disappear" and that is mostly how sentiemonster are destroyed by the creator of the senteimonster
Could be possoble
Nah, Felix didn’t know Hawk Moth’s powers, so since SentiGabriel was pretending to be Hawk Moth, he was exaggerating his powers because if Gabriel wasn’t Hawk Moth then he shouldn’t _really_ know his powers and Felix definitely doesn’t. That line is just manipulation, no real significance.
I don't think he's a senti. I'm more into the group that thinks Felix is a senti.
especially after it has been confirmed that Adrien wasn't
@Elsa I agree. He faced 3 super villains with no super powers.
If Adrien is a sentibmonser then his father would have know that's he's cat noir becuse he mayayura sees the sentir monster sooooo♡♡♡♡
Me to
Felix is so awkward, moves so robotically, just like how fake nino did.
To add to the theory of Adrien being a sentimonster, whenever Adrien asks Gabriel if he can do things like everybody else. Gabriel always replies with “because you’re not like everybody else”
This could be addressing that he knows Adrien is a sentimonster and that he is different.
NO😭😭Poor Adrien
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But also what if he was just saying that because adrien is a famous model and his dad is a famous designer
@@alasia8990 exactly
NO ITS BC ADRIEN IS FAMOUS AND RICH AND THEY AREN'T WHY IS EVERYONE SO BLIND
Adrien is not a sentimonster and he’s not perfect! He got mad when he was left out from secrets and he isn’t patient either. Some people are just really good at being kind!
Ikr
SPOILER FOR RISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Sorry to break it to you but i think they are sentimonsters according to the episode risk. In the end Felix disobeyed Gabriel but when Natalie (who had the Agreste Ring) said Adrien its time to go Felix complied. (btw Felix was preteding to be Adrien at the end of that episode i wont say why just in case someone reading this has not watched it yet)
@@anastas4339 MAYBE SPOILER: This doesn't necessarily prove that true; Felix had just found out something shocking and might have changed his plans which we don't know the full extent of yet. The reaction was most likely how "Adrien" would have reacted; normally we know he wouldn't have the guts to do that. There is too much information going against the theory for me to believe they could be sentimonsters. I wonder if Felix noticed Natalie had the ring after seeing what he did...
My Theory: Felix is Adrian’s twin but Amiile can’t have children so Emiile and Gabriel gave Amiile Felix. So the Rings are symbolizing Adrian and Felix that were separated at birth because Felix stole one and Adrian has one in his house
That’s an amazing theory!!! 🥰❤️
@@TheMayaBShow Thank you!
i think if your theory is remotely correct, it would be the opposite: emilie couldn’t have kids and adrien was given to them. what would prove that is that the painting of emilie that is in gabriel’s office is a replica of a real life one. and the real life one’s story is that the lady had a disease and couldn’t have children. idk how to explain that lmao
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@@ana-op5ps That’s a good idea and that could the reason why Gabriel is protective of Adrian
Cat Noir didn't malfunction when he got hit. sentimonsters dont just malfunction when they get cataclysmed. They go nuts, they go on a rampage. This happen with Reflekdoll, Lighteye, and Dynamite Banana Monkey. Cat noir didn't just start going crazy, it was kinda the opposite. It's like he got punch in the ribs and his ribs are sore or something and it hard for his core to support him.
I agree with this one. It didn't look like he was malfunctioning so much as being in a crap ton of pain. I'd fall over too if I tried to pole vault with a broken rib.
I also agree with it
I agree because if Adrian was a sentimonster then why does he not listen to his father.
I'm not sure if he really got cataclysmed. He just got punched.
@@YankeeYork no he got cataclysmes twice in miraculer
I've been reading around a lot of these theories, and I gotta say:
What makes most sense to me is that Felix is the original one. Adrien is a copy, since his mother was infertile. That is why Adrien is supposedly the perfect version of Felix, the kind one that looks just like him.
Which makes sense as to why Felix no longer likes him- he realized he is a copy of himself, but better- who would like someone that is the literal upgraded version of you?
That is why Adrien doesn't look like Gabriel, he looks like their mothers and maybe, just a bit, like Felix's father
Something about Felix in the miraculous anime: He was heartless. Basically no love at all. And he also had the black cat and if anyone is superstitious then you should know that black cats are bad luck.. he is stuck with the miraculous and is trying to get a kiss from Ladybug to break his bad luck streak- just some back ground info yall might not know
makes sense cus black cats are bad luck and ladybugs are goodluck
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He got two kisses in oblivio episode and darkcupid
@@61020 i don't know if there was an episode of it in the anime miraculous
@@sweetheart_firimi469 mm Ya But now it is Animation so this theory cant be true yk
There's one thing you forgot if felix was sentimonster than Natalie would have had dizzy spells while he was around
And u forgot that this makes sense emilies soul and the father from felix just dies making adrien
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Yeah, and the same with adrien and she didn’t get dizzy spells. And what if adrien isn’t a sentimonster but what if those 2 rings could create a real life human that has their own mind cause sentimonsters are controlled and adrien is perfect cause if he was he wouldn’t sneak out, and do all those little things that couldn’t make him perfect in nay way so what if those 2 rings made a power to create a normal human and if you think that’s a bad power well what fi you need an extra buddy fighting with you to help you oh there you go. And that would change the love life and the story and it may ruin the show.
@@sirelizar4514 what if Felix is actually a sentimonster to watch over adrien when they were younger but he didn’t make him perfect cause it may give away he’s a sentimonster, and Felix wanted the rings to make him perfect and control himself and the logo kinda looks like 2 circles but there’s a line between the circles so it could be a bow in arrow with a the bow in the 2 circles. But idk I feel like it may be better if they weren’t sentimonsters cause marinette would be crushed and adrien could die and I don’t want that, and that Chloe had the same flower well Gabriel and Audrey were friends so maybe Audrey gave them friendship flower pins but they split apart and gave them to different peopled they loved, and with the cataclysm I think he was only affected and didn’t die cause he was cat noir when he got cataclysm cause plagg didn’t die or get affected at all he just malfunction. And one the director of English miraculous said that’s a far reach but it is possible saying that it may not happen.
@@StillSaber yeah and adrien is only perfect for his father but his cat noir side is like his inner ego I just think like you said that theirs lost of flaws with this idea and how would either of them be sentimonsters if the peacock miraculous was hidden away cause one the miraculous is hidden away and not used and not in control of their sentimonsters (if they didn’t get rid of the sentimonster already) turns to stone and is left behind like in the episode feast
Sentimonsters don’t have feeling so how can Chat Noir love Ladybug so for my opinion i don’t think Adrien is a sentimonster but who knows Felix could be one.
Edit: Sorry for the whole fight in the comments just wanted to tell my opinion :D
Just saying, the ladybug sentimonster showed a bit of gratitude.
@@n0tkat_ true
The ladybug sentimonster had feelings:|
Well not true the creator said that sentimonster have felling and If you watch the episode named ladybug It show that sentimonster have felling
@@n0tkat_ because thatone was controlled by the holder
I don't really prefer Adrien being a sentimonster, but for Felix, it sounds more realistic. He was so keen on getting the twin rings, and maybe those rings contain his amok which is why Amilie wanted it back. However, someone I would think is a sentimonster can be Nathalie. Her last name means heartless, she could've been created by Emilie to take care of Adrien, she doesn't seem to care when Adrien is being emotionally abused by Gabriel, plus Gabriel is practically using her and she's okay with it. So maybe, Gabriel has the amok of SentiNathalie in the twin rings.
Nope, I'm sorry to pop your bubble, but we had an episode a bit ago where her voice is on background, and she says how she got attached to Grabriel, And Adrian. We learned that she was indeed in love with Gabriel, AND that she felt bad for adrien. Therefore I think it is almost impossible for her to be a sentimonster
@@skyicy7383 Just because she loved Gabriel doesn't mean she truly did? Also if she really did care about Adrien she would, AND I MEAN WOULD, defend him when Gabriel is literally emotionally abusing him. Sentimonsters can be created in a certain way, to have emotion or anything really. But if Gabriel is controlling her, it would make sense why she isn't standing up for Adrien. Emilie would probably have created Nathalie as an assistant of Gabriel, to follow whatever order he pleases.
Can a sentimonster be sick?
@@birinsan8109 Well if they're created as a human would be, yea probably. I got the information that sentimonsters can be different in their own way based on the way they're created from Thomas's twitter.
hmm but Nathalie has feelings for Gabriel so i believe that thats why she is willing to help Gabriel
I feel like Felix and he's mom are senteimomsters that is why they're wanted the rings
That actually might be true😏
No
She was sister of Emily
@@miraculoustalesofladybugan8852 yeah but maybe she hiding it from everyone
@@celes8936 no they said they were young when they play tricks on Gabriel
If Adrien were a Sentimonster, then Mayura would have sensed his amok at some time or another. She's also faced Chat Noir directly! THAT would have revealed his Identity to her!! So.. No. NOT a Sentimonster.
This ^^
Like when she saw the statue of that sentimonster master fu created, Natalie felt that he was a sentimonster and not with Adrien
frl all the superpowers probably work like that so if a hawkmoth of the past akumatized something the present hawkmoth should be able to control it to certain degree so if we use that theory that means if a ladybug of the past used her lucky charm but never solved the problem the current ladybug should be able to fix it so it should be same for illusions shields immobilizations etc
@@fatedmint yes I totally agree, besides adrien may seem perfect but that doesn’t mean that he is
@@lkapee Emily is not the only one who can sense the amok, when master fu created that sentimonster a long time ago Natalie was able to sense that that statue was a sentimonster
She might be able to sense the amok but she knows
Cat noir does not have an amok
Is no one gonna talk about how Emily looks so young?!?! She looks almost the same age as Adrien or a little older?! and i dont think she died when Adrien was younger because in some episodes where Adrien is on his computer, he has a picture of him and his mom anf he doesnt appear to be a child in the photo.
Yeah she died a year ago
A year before the show started
She's not that old and she was an actress, her twin sister looks exactly the same.
Some people just remain looking young. Depending on when they had Adrien she may have only been 32. She doesn't look too young for that.
She didn’t die she is just in a coma 😊
@@alexisgady Oh right- yeah sorry 😅
What if emelie is alive and is acting as amelie just like how felix and adrien in their childhood
I was thinking of that
Thats actually a really good one
This actually makes sense!
Nice theory but why would she pretend to be amilie
@@animeboy9146 oh yeah i didn't think about that....well i leave it to your imagination....cuz we need some mysterious plot too u know
If Adrien was a sentimonster, we really need a massive explanation as to why Mayura or Shadow moth has figured out that Adrien is Chat Noir as it was shown that Natalie could tell Feast was one from a picture
Natalie/mayura can only sense the amok. Not the sentimonster. Adrien doesnt carry or have his amok so how will she sense that adrien's a sentimonster
Gabriel once had a suspicion that Adrien is cat noir if he really could control Adrien he would've forced him into revealing that he's Cat Noir but he didn't that means Gabriel can't control Adrien hence he is not a Sentimonster
Fun fact: in Miraculous Ladybug PV Version Bridgette and Alya were suppose to be enemies but the animators decided it would be much better if they were bff :)
OMG REALLY THAT'S SO COOL!!
@@TheMayaBShow yeah here is where i found out about this www.reddit.com/r/miraculousladybug/comments/k39o04/did_you_know/
Wait That’s So Cool-
And that how lila were born...
@@miktheklik5255 TOTALLY
Okay so this would explain Adrian’s blindness🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣 yeahhh
Yup
Yeah
@@tubaazam2394 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Truth
But why would he have feelings for ladybug then?
In the episode Santa claws, adrien said to Santa that he lost his mom an year ago.
And he is having a photo of him and his mom in his computer.
I Don't think that Adrien is a senti monster.
Is that a proof .-.
Is anyone wondering why it’s called the “ Twin rings” MAYBE FELIX AND ADRIEN ARE SENTI-MONSTERS-
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No the voice acter said he was not
Makes sense
Yeah
@@viengkham725 But then changed his reply
There are three things which make me believe that Adrien isn’t a sentimonster, no. 1 is: in the episode lady Wifi, when lady WiFi was about to unmask ladybug, ladybug said this: “My mask isn’t coming off because it is magical” so that could mean that the costume is also magical and the costume and mask are both cataclysm-proof. So what if Cat noir’s mask and suit are both cataclysm-proof just like ladybug’s? But I’m not sure because the miraculouses can be damaged by cataclysm.
no. 2 is: We all know that Gabriel suspects that Adrien is cat noir, but if Adrien was a sentimonster, Gabriel could’ve just ordered him to reveal if he is cat noir, and then Gabriel could’ve just ordered him to give the miraculous after finding out he is cat noir.
And no. 3 is: When he was cataclysmed by miraculer (akumatized Sabrina), He just had some pain in his chest. But the sentimonsters go on a rampage and destroy anything that crosses their path, so they become even more aggressive when cataclysmed. But if Adrien was a sentimonster, he would’ve went on a cataclysm spree, but he didn’t and instead, just had some pain in his chest. So I don’t think that Adrien could be a sentimonster, that’s way too dark.
Yea I agree if u get cataclysmed ofc u will get hurt
yessss
finally found someone who thinks adrien is not a senti-monster.
Yes these all make alot of sense
Remember that the adult Bunny miraculous holder, the one who holds the time. She said that she got cataclysm by cat noire.
In episode Ephemeral 1:00 ,15:25
Adrien stopped resisting when Gabriel touching his ring
So one can controls Adrien another one controls Felix
And that can also explain why Gabriel is being so strict to Adrien cause he’s afraid of that sentimonster would lose control without his creator who is Emilie
That’s why Felix need to steal it
But I’m still wondering how these ring works if they are miraculous and why they can control them
Adrien definitly not senti monsters but Felix might be since from your theory you saying that ring might have to do with something. But personally prefer he is not. 😁😁
Hmm... could be true! In the episode were Alya’s sisters gets akumitized, hawk moth says that children should do what they want and should be free, but he keeps Adrien locked up in his house?? 🤔
EXCATLY!!
Not to mention, Gabriel said that he didn't want his son in the dangerous world! I don't even know what to think and believe anymore lol!
To be fair, that's just the best way to manipulate people. Tell them what they want to hear to get them on your side.
@@jazz_with_roses true, but then again, he didn’t really say it to them. He just said something about how children should have freedom
Or it could be because gabriel didnt want his son to end up like his mother or for anyone to come into his house and find out Gabriel's secret
Adding to the „adrien was modeled/made after felix“ That emilie painting is based on a real painting that has this backstory: the woman in the painting was infertile and couldn’t have children. She was very jealous of her sister having children and later on fell into a COMA and passed away. Now why would adrien be modeled after felix? because emilie was upset and jealous of her twin sister having felix. Futhermore just like the woman on the painting, emilie also fell into a coma. 👀
I have a theory that Felix is a senti monster and not Adrien.
So they already confirmed Adrien wasn’t a senti monster, but my theory was Emilie And Gabriel weren’t able to have children so Emilie stole her sister’s child “ Adrien “ and replaced him with a senti monster which is Felix. So basically Adrien is the real felix
Evidence 1- All episodes are usually named after Villains or Senti monsters, but the episode Felix he wasn’t really the villain.
Evidence 2- In the anime Version of MLB felix was suppose to be cat noir but was replaced with Adrien.
Evidence 3- Felix being a senti monster could explain why him and Adrien look so alike, they look like identical twins. you can’t have identical twins unless both parents are twins. And it could explain why Felix is much meaner because he was created with a broken miraculous ( Peacock miraculous )
omg I also think the same!!!
I saw a comic on adrien being a sentimonster, in which when adrien was little he and his mom got in to a car accident where he was severely hurt and died. Emilie used the peacock miraculous to give life to him making him half sentimonster, now if you see adrien was home schooled most of his life and how he is watched most of the time, probably due to this accident that took place so he would never get hurt again. If you go by this comic and the time where his mom disappeared we can reform this story to make sense of how your theory of adrien being a sentimonster and Emilie’s death/coma being explained.
The story would go like this:
Adrien is 1 year smaller than he was in s1.
Adrien and his mom get in to an accident and he dies. Emilie uses the peacock miraculous and turns in to her transformed version and then gives adrien life, making her wedding band the place that holds the amock. Emilie dies/goes in pot a coma as a consequence.
But this would not make sense with the home school theory so he would prob have to be younger and Emillie’s disappearance would have to be explained by a different reason.
Also it’s so true adrien is perfect so it weighs more into the sentimonster theory.
True make a lot of sense but why would Emily would bring him back tho she knew that the miraculous was damaged I hope they bring back Emily but I is a chance that someone would die if they do that do any have any more tea about adrain being a sentimonster ??
What’s the name of this comic
also a car accident could have also damange the peacock mirculous!
@@julieharri7198 unlucky charm l think ?
I have read this too but in that Marinette was given the lucky charm bracelet which had the amok in it....I don't remember the comic's name though
So, if Adrien is a senti monster maybe Marinette is in love with a senti monster-
She's even in love with statue--
My sister said that if Adrien was actually a sentimonster, then Natalie or whoever holding peacock miraculous would sense and know if that thing is a sentimonster.
natalie might know or she just been around him so much
Natalie can’t sense sentimonsters, she can only sense amoks so if the amok is not with Adrien and truly is in the twin rings then she won’t be able to sense it
@@huhuhehe912 ok
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Tbh, I think either Felix and Adrien are secretly twins, or one/both of them are sentimonsters. But here's the thing, for them to be secret twins/if Felix was a senti, then Amelie would know. And it's only logical that she wouldn't want her son to find out. Yet in the episode Felix, she said "aw Gabriel, don't they look like twins?" Why would she want to plant that seed of doubt in the kids heads????? Why would she want to out hers and her sisters secret????? Weird. Which makes me think that she doesn't know about what going on. Leaving the only option-that Adrien has to be a senti.
Ages ago I learnt to trust your theories on my life. I do believe Adrien is a sentimonster and after watching Gabriel Agreste, I definitely know that Felix is!
This is scaring me, I don't want him to be a sentimonster 😭
Oh no I can't even imagine Adrien as sentimonster 😭😭😭😭😭
Don't you worry! It is still a kids show 🥲, can't be that dark
Yup you're right
Well if he was Natalie would of felt the amok within
No, if he was a sentimonster, no one would like the show and the directors wouldn’t want their show to be disliked by all the millions of people that used to watch miraculous ladybug, and also Adrien being a sentimonster? No, that’s too dark. I don’t think the directors want to break our hearts because Adrien, the second most loved character (Because he is Cat noir and we all love Cat noir and when Adrien is Cat noir, he’s not blind, I mean he calls Marinette “His princess” and he’s being himself) to be a sentimonster
If he actually was a sentimonster I would be more upset then Marinette 😅😂
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There are people on UA-cam claiming Luka is the real villain therefore I was wondering if people should choose Adrienette over Lukanette or not exactly
I think the secret villain is among alya😫liela🙄felix🙄 luka😭chloe mom😐kagami mom😐
If Adrien is a sentimonster the he would have followed Adrien without hesitation which he didn't did
And if he is a sentimonster wayzz or master fu could have detected that he is sentimonster
I don’t really think Adrian is a Senti-Monster I just don’t really
Marinette would be so sad
Yes it just wouldnt make sense tbh I dont think they would make it for Marinette to be inlove with a Senti Monster
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I’m just hoping that there is gonna be an episode where Adrien STOPS SAYING MARINETTE IS JUST A FRIEND we all know she’s more then that, in the Disney+ Miraculous movie he does stuff that literally shows that he likes her 🐾🐞
Wait what do you mean by Disney+ Miraculous movie?
OMG there's a disney+ one?!?!?!?!?!? HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS! Ty so much, off to go watch some disney +!!❤️❤️❤️
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I also think Adrien is a sentimonster as in episode risk Felix listens to Natalie who has the ring but doesn’t listen to Gabriel.
It also says that Adrien claims that’i am afraid to stand up to him,even if he is my father and I love him and I know that he loves me still it is hard for me’
So, when you say Chat “malfunctioned” when he broke his ribs, wouldn’t that be a natural reaction? I mean, say he wasn’t a sentimonster. If he broke his ribs, attempted to hide it, and tried to perform normal things, and failed, it wouldn’t necessarily be “malfunctions”. also, as we see in Reflekdoll, the sentimonster goes basically insane, and is unable to control itself. Adrien remained calm and fought through his injurys, so wouldn’t that work against this theory? Keep up the good work! 💚
that makes a lot more sense, actually!
And if Adrian is a sentimonster so catnoir is a sentimonster too and peacock miraculous has a power to smell sentimonsters so why Nathalie couldn't smell catnoir ? She will difenatly known that catnoir is a sentimonster
it's because their costumes make them almost invulnerable I guess
@@ana-op5ps Natalie does not feel the sentimonster but the sentimonster's AMOK, and Catnoir does not carry the amok with him
@@Only_aj_jess but Adrien have so many emotions . Sentimonster can have their own emotions when they're independent, but apparently have no free will or emotions when someone else controls them, and reflect the emotions of the holder of the amokized object . ...
Its confirmed by Ezra that Adrien is not sentimonster
nope! watch through the whole vid! i showed his response from the tik tok :)
@@TheMayaBShow your the reason why my feeling of miraculous ladybug are shaky
He only said it had a far chance to happen,never denied it👀
Yup
@@weirdpotato7097 yes but he also was like "what when you guys did ever think of that " like it's not possible or maybe it is but sentimonsters don't fall in love or when he got cataclysmed he didnt go crazy as a sentimonster he was supposed to be crazy after that like you know what I mean?felix could be a sentimonster because he is just too perfect and has his face expresion the same always, didnt fall in love and maybe because we saw only a episode with him but that episode cant be just a simple episode .it has to be something that means a thing .
It's been confirmed Adrien isn't a sentimonsrer but imagine if he was!
@✩ Jade Gonzalez ✩ yeah
OKAY HEAR ME OUT SO WHAT IF:
Adrien is a sentimonster, and his amok is BOTH of the Graham de Vanilly twin rings (like they were unified when the amok was put inside them? Does that make sense?) and Adrien looks exactly like Felix because his appearance was based on his cousin? And what if Amelie and Felix know this and they want the rings to be able to take control of Adrien? That would also explain why Gabriel wants to hold onto them so badly. And so far Felix only has one ring, but if my theory is remotely correct, then he would need both rings to control Adrien, so that's why he hadn't been able to do it yet.
Oh shoot what the heck that's so good.
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why didn't mayura sense chat noir was a sentimonster? If she did she would probably tell Gabriel who would figure out it is adrien because he of all people would know if Adrien was a senti-monster.
EXACTLY what I was thinking!! Especially because in one of the season 4 episodes, we saw that an akuma can be split into two separate objects. Idk remember the name, it was the one where juleka’s parents were fighting.
I think the writers chose to put that in there to show that an akuma (or amok!) can be separated into two objects.
It also explains why Adrien tried, for apparently the first time, to go to school in the first season! It’s as if he COULDN’T make his own decisions when his mother was around. He only tried to go against his father and go to school after his mother disappeared! When she was around, she had a ring and Gabriel had a ring, so together they had full control over Adrien. When she went into her magical coma, she no longer had her half of control over adrien, so now he has more ability to disobey his father!
But now, Gabe is wearing one ring and Felix has the other ring somewhere in London. We know from the episode startrain that the butterfly miraculous holder can’t communicate with the akuma over long distances, so I’m thinking that Felix has no control over Adrien as long as he’s in London.
It’s either that, or there is one amok per ring, one for adrien as cast by Emilie, and one for Felix as cast by Felix’s dad. I only think this because it doesn’t make sense why Felix is so desperate to get his hands on those rings. Both Emilie and Felix’s dad died/disappeared at around the same time. The broken peacock miraculous probably made them both sick, but it’s kinda weird that they both disappeared at almost the same time. I have thought of a reason for that.
One last thing!! Marinette’s maternal family is from China, where the miraculous box is from. Adrien’s parents have been making him learn Chinese (probably since birth, seeing how it is very difficult to learn and he is very good at it). I don’t think that’s a coincidence! I haven’t figured out a theory about that but there’s something there… maybe Sabine used to be the ladybug holder lol
Okay I’m done
So we know that Master Fu knew all of the identities of the hero’s just in case he had to take their miraculous but then why doesn’t Marrinette know Cat Noirs identity
Guys hear me out!
Basically in 'Representation' they show us the play which explains everything to marinette. Now comes the thing, In the play they show us that one of the sisters get PREGNANT, as in a real human child and that the husband of the other sister is jealous and threatens the husband of the sister that got pregnant. The husband of the sister that got pregnant is obviously Gabriel as it is told in the play that he is a tailor and we know that he becomes a very famous fashion designer. So Gabriel offers the peacock's miraculous (we also know that he was the one who found the peacock and butterfly miraculous) to the husband of the other sister, Felix's father. Now we know that Felix's father hated him and used to always treat him badly and it is also shown in the play how the son of the other sister was looked upon as a monster by the father as it was technically not his own (and was only created out of jealousy). Hence to conclude, Adrien is a real person and NOT a sentimonster. Felix definitely is and probably Kagami as well.
Are you sure about this though? It’s pretty much confirmed at this point are you really that sure that Adrian isn’t a centi monster
I think the reason Adrien "malfunctions" when struck w cataclysm (and not dies lol) from Sabrina is simply because she took away the powers and tried to replicate it. like, does ladybug's power give Sabrina lucky charms the same way it does to LB (or Adrien in that swap episode)? nope. so, what Sabrina had was sth of a copyclysm and that's why it didn't work the way it should.
He didn’t malfunction though he just got hurt bad
the suit probably protected him mostly, ladybug has taken some pretty big hits and she came out mostly fine. I mean it is a magic suit and they do have heightened abilities when they transform.
not really
it's the real cataclysm
@Anne! except in this episode it wasn't a copy of the powers, it was the real powers but they just swapped roles
Also, every time Gabriel moves his ring, Adrien immediately says ‘yes father.’
Then why didn't Gabriel force him into revealing he's Cat noir in Gorizila
@@Notfunny494 this was a year ago i have no idea what i was talking about 🤷♀️
@@sarahbile19 you were talking about how Gabriel can control Adrien but that's wrong because he couldn't In Gorizilla
@@Notfunny494 okay
@@Notfunny494 To be fair, GABRIEL has the ring, HAWK MOTH doesn’t. If Gabriel wanted access to the ring in that moment he’d have to detransform(severing his connection to Gorizilla), put the ring aside, retransform, pick up the ring, and _then_ he’d be able to control him. By the way, I don’t necessarily believe this theory. I haven’t even watched the video yet but I’m just saying this under the assumptions that Adrien is a Sentimonster and the ring has the amok.
I don’t think Adrien is a sentimonster because in the New York special the robot girl I don’t know her name she said the miraclous are meant to coufused the minds of humans and if Adrien was a sentimonster he would have found ladybugs miraclous
its only for technology
True and a sentimonster is magic so she wouldnt be able to see Adrien because technology can't capture magical beings like kwamis.
@@aninsomniacgiraffe3717 She is technology
Well remember, If Adrien is a sentimonster, then he was probably made to be a sentimonster who is exactly like a human by Emilie, which caused her to fall into a coma - and if he is a sentimonster who's exactly like a human, then it means that Aeon saw him as a human, rather than a sentimonster-
@@StillSaber Agreed . But idk, I didn't think that far, and this is a show, anything can happen 🤷♀️
Adrien is not a sentimonster it was confirmed by the voice director.
And the reason you pick Adrien in 10:5 because we know more about Adrien..
Dont you think this theory is started to be annoying? Because he is clearly not sentimonster. Sentimonsters are perfect creations so they shouldnt feel sick. Adrien is allergic to feathers so he cant be Sentimonster. Sentimonsters need have amoktised object with them to have free will, I didn't saw something like that near Adrien so he is not sentimonster
@@LittleJohn1 i totally agree
Whatever I watch everyone is just talking about adrien being sentimonster even if its confirmed that he is not
Its really annoying
@@kai5625 some youtubers dont even listening and they still saying he is sentimonster even if fans gives argumets of proof that he isn't sentimonster
@@LittleJohn1 yeah, they just want more views
frr adrien cant be a senti-monster maybe felix tho?
6:47 No, Adrian isn't perfect because he has some weakness too. Ladybug is his weakness. He even struggles to use the snake miraculous unlike Luka. He also doesn't always make the right decision and that causes someone to get akumatized. He has these flaws so it means that he is NOT perfect.
Well to be honest most of these things happen when Gabriel is distracted and isn't in proper control of adrien or even paying attention to him so adrien falls from perfection a little, like a mild malfunction. Sentimonsters malfunction when their owners aren't in control...
In the episode Mr Pigeon 72 Adrien in only allergic to Pigeon feathers so technically every time he was around the amok, he would sneeze. And if he was a sentimonster then wouldn't he be a bit broken or run down after a while? Also what if Gabriel and Emilie had used the Ladybug and Cat Noir miraculous to make Adrien? Then it would be a life given to a life taken. Adrien had life given to him and Emilie had her life taken. Also one more, if Felix was the sentimonster then maybe that's why he doesn't have much... emotion. Because he only shows cunning and this face -_-
Does any of this make sense because my family doesn't get it
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Felix is a sentimonters
Because he is allergic to pigeon feathers and not to peacock feathers
@@Kurumi.233 Yeah the gabriel ageste episode made that very clear didnt it? I found out and i yelled it at my brother and he just went... "What?" XD
This would explain why Adrian is so blind to Marinette 😂
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Well its because he is mentakky abysed and didnt have friends other than Chloe so he doesnt understand other people's emotions. You guys are blind, he was abused by his father cmon.
@@hardcorefurinafan yh and he clearly can fall in love *cough cough* ladybug
About the peacock miraculous: I think it had been already broken when Emilie started wearing it from when Master Fu tried to flee from the temple Feast destroyed. As Fu was running he might've accidentally stepped on the jewel
I really like this theory but I think that maybe Amelie and Emelie had a hard time having kids,and maybe they used the rings to make a wish?Idk just an idea
YES!! I really believe that's possible!! ❤️❤️
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i dont want adrien being a sent monster then we wont have chat noir 💔
We would have one but it wont be Adrien that is ChatNoir
This is gonna mess Marinette up so bad.
Thats not necessary true that just means he's not exactly human.
@@bribri2255 but ladybug could defeat him
@@lulurblx but why would she Adrian a good guy, right?
The theory abt the twin rings still gets me because in risk when we watch the scene of adrien and Lila practicing for the ad Gabriel says “two souls, one heart, one mind, first love”
Good point!!
I personally believe that the peacock miraculous broke because it was used when a sentimonster was still alive/roaming(feast).
Or maybe too many amuks at once since you can release as many as you want
Her: "Adrien is perfect"
Me: Adrien is BLIND
true
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And? He didnt have any friends other than Chloe so, he doesnt know anything about romantic feelings? You guys are blind
Theory 1: Felix is a sentimonster, possibly because somebody in the comments said that senti monsters don't have feelings, and remember the episode Ladybug? When she exposed herself that she was a senti monster? And she was side by side with Mayura? Kind of reminds me of Felix's face when he met Adrien again. But then again when he got the ring he had an evil feeling on his face, so... Who knows.
Theory 2: Maybe Emilie and the aunt own the Graham Twin Rings, because they're twins and that they used to own those 2 rings and that they were Miraculous's too. (Maybe they are senti monsters too???)
Theory 3: The Graham Twin Rings ARE MIRACULOUS'S. Remember the old kwami place before Ladybug was guardian? If you didn't notice, in the middle is more circles, they look like spots for more kwami's, and if you didn't realise, one of the circles is half white. It could be that the twin souls you were talking about is a kwami's in the same body, half some other guy other half some other guy. And maybe one side is evil and one side is not evil. Bunnix's miraculous is hidden aswell, so it's possible that those rings are hidden miraculouses.
Theory 4: When the Graham Twin Rings (If they are miraculouses.) are not hidden, both of the rings could mold together and stuff.
Theory 5: The Graham Twin Rings, one of them are a copy made 15 years ago??? From an experiment tested from that Miraculous Book Gabriel owns?
If adrien was a sentimonster, nathalie would know it. When catnoir was fighting with mayura, she would have come to know that adrien is catnoir.
I was also thinking, what if the distortion power that protects the miraculous holders from being recognised in their suits also stops them from being recognised as sentimonsters? 🤔
Now the word 'sentimonster' is in my head xD
I don't think both of them are sentimonster tho
this is a really good theory, but I believe the only reason he didn't get "cataclysmed" is because he had his miraculous on which could have protected him from being fully harmed from such a power - thus only weakening him.
Thomas confirm it was indeed his cat suit that protected him!
Idea; for gabriel:
Get the peacock miraculous and make emille
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Idk would she really be the same?
Your ring theory is incredible but Adrien is a sentimoster this is not possible
I think Felix is so antagonistic because he knows he’s a sentimonster and he has become bitter because of it or it could be how he is controlled as a sentimonster
Omg wait what if Adrien's bodyguard was a sentimonster. It would explain why he never speaks. And if he was a sentimonster then he would probably know that Gabriel is hawk moth which would explain why he looks angry every time Gabriel goes near Adrien.
No no…Adrien isn’t a sentimonster that can’t be 😭😭if it is, I gonna cry al day and night,but i luv your theories!❤️can’t wait for the next one!
IKR ID CRY IF IT WAS TRUE
Same! I love Maya's theories too, but I'd be heartbroken for the Marinette and Adrien ship to end, maybe Marinette would still have a crush on Adrien even if he ends up being a sentimonster? Idk...it's not likely❤️❤️❤️
@@jolynecujoh6448 how was it confirmed...?
I hope that is it confirmed :(
@@earmuffs1344 same...😞😞😞
Hello, I'm Angel and I have my own theory.
I agree that Adrien is a sentimonster for this reason: everytime Gabriel Agreste touches his ring, Adrien immediately obeys him even if Adrien knows he's doing the right thing.
Here are some proofs: during the Ephemeral episode, Gabriel finds out that his son is Chat Noir. In the morning, he woke him up and led him into the underground section where he took the opportunity to akumatize him while Adrien trying to resist it but as soon as ShadowMoth touches his ring, he quickly obeyed him which made me think that an ordinary person won't do that.
Look, Adrien loves Ladybug. He will definitely and probably stand with Ladybug and would rather fight or be against by his own father since it's the right thing to do yet it ended up the opposite when ShadowMoth touched his ring.
Chloe can even manage to resist HawkMoth's akumatization since she stands for Ladybug and righteousness, in the Miraculer episode. In the Gang Of Secrets, Alya de-akumatized herself due to Marinette's encouraging words. In Rocketear, Nino stop himself from being akumatized for knowing the truth.
Someone who loves a person will always fight for him/her or sacrifice him/herself unless he/she is being possessed by an Amok, LOL.
To know more, Megaleech and Ephemeral episodes strengthens my theory.
Thank you.
this is an interesting theory, very well written! i agree that others were able to reject the akuma and adrien wasn't however none of their emotions compared to his... imagine finding out that your dad was hawk moth and that your mother who you've been under the impression was missing is right there inside your dad's underground lair? i think those emotions are way too overpowering, and just can't be forgotten about. same with marinette. if adrien hadn't transformed she would've still been akumatized, because she was just forced to break up with someone she loves dearly. the power of their emotions would've made them perfect prey for an akuma because those are strong, intense human emotions. and that's what hawk moth depends on
@@jiheaso162 I agree with you.
Thank you for sharing yours, as well.
It is hugely appreciated.
Stay safe and be Miraculous! 😊🐞
Maybe adrien obeyed to get akoomatized to get back his mother
I hope adrien isn’t a sentimonster because marinette will lose her lover
Same
Bruh everyone is worried about how Marinette will react but can u imagine how ADRIEN will react tho?
@@hardcorefurinafan actually I didn’t think of it 🤔
Adrien is just like a normal human. He makes mistakes just like a human. An example of this is when he lied to his body guard in the episode Party crasher. Or when he snuck away to go to school in the episode Origins. Cat Noir also tried to reveal his identity to ladybug when he used the snake miraculous but had to use the power.
I dont think Adrien is a sentimonster cause in the episode "Ladybug" when mayura took the amok from the sentimonster ladybug, Adrien didnt feel a thing.. but maybe mayura can only take one amok at a time like hawkmoth so I dont know 😅 thats my idea😊
Only the creator of the sentimonster can take the amok out
@@nekogamer2508 but any peacock wearer can sense a sentimonster.
@@FeltSteam0 actually no they can sense an amok
I think it’s more probable that Felix is a sentimonster though, the Graham De Vanily (sorry if I wrote it wrong) theory is a very good one, the rings holding the amok, those two rings being a missing miraculous from the box of the New York special :0, like WOW. I could expect that happening Maya thx for the theory!
Just to clarify but if Thomas's message was translated from France it would be normal for him to say "s'il" which means him because in Frensch the pronoun "they" doesn't exist but great Video!!!!
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I really hope Adrien is a sentimonster because it would just make the entire show and plot so much more confusing and complex. It would make the story so much deeper as characters would struggle with learning and accepting this fact. While I absolutely LOVE this theory, im not sure if Adrien really is a sentimonster because I don’t know if the writers would take that route, and so while I hope it’s somehow true I cant say I think it is.
That's DEFENETLY the direction they're taking! They aren"/ even subtle about it XD
Oh dear d'you even realize that ur wishin' to break the relationship between our favourite to-be couple😶😐
Ur just thinking about the show but its a lot more for me yk..our feelings are attached to those characters..if Adrien turns out to be a sentimonster Marinette would be heartbroken and the fandom would be even more heartbroken than them bcz them being together is what we really want..
My thoughts:
If Adrien was a senti monster then wouldnt mayura be able to sense the presence of a sentimonster. And ik if he was a sentimonster Nathalie would probably already know that he was one. But in the episode Feast we know that they dont need the item where the amok is in to feel the presence. So when mayura is fighting chat noir wouldnt she be able to feel the presence of a sentimonster. And now my question is can sentimonsters get akumatized. And if they can then that explains chat blanc
@@saynajit5272 oh wait your right i totally forgot that feast was akumatized okay this is getting good
@@saynajit5272 i was thinking if adrien were to find out he was a senti monster he would want to use the cat and ladybug miraculous to make him human
what i think is the miraculous do something to sintimonsters so maybe that is why she doesn't sense it
@@Hazel-ko6bn that would make sense like it blocks it
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You almost hit the nail on the head. The twin rings are gran de vanity treasure. I believe when Emil was born the rings were used to divide her into her and her sister. Parents put rings on her and slid them apart. Then one of the two sister had a boy and rings were used again to create Adrien from Felix. That the two are half of a whole. I think Amil and Felix wanting the rings back is too prevent him and Adrien being fused back together. And Amil wants to use the ring to fuse herself and Emil back together then split them in hopes of curing Emil and bringing her back. Those rings are why the Gran De Vanity family has twins in their family.
I was think about this too
WHAT IF ADRIAN WAS CREATED AS A SENTY MONSTER BUT THEM EMILLY GAVE UP HER LIFE SO HE BECOMES 100% HUMAN???
Can we just take a moment of her hard work like the editing the theory this is all for our entertainment ❤️
THANK YOU! ❤️
@@TheMayaBShow aww np your a really good youtuber 💕💕
Yeah! good job! @@TheMayaBShow the theory is so well explained! 💓
WAIT WAIT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING! Hawk moth wants the miraculous to make a “wish” right? Well we saw in robustas that that wish could be to become human. Up until now we’ve been assuming that wish was to help emile but what if it was ACTUALLY to turn Adrian into a human instead of a sentimonster. We know Gabriel and Natalie don’t like keeping Adrian in the dark about being hawkmoth becuase they believe they are doing the right thing, AND We know using the peacock miraculous damaged Emile maybe the reason she’s unable to wake up is becuase she’s still using it to keep Adrian alive similar to how feast was still being kept alive even though Fu no longer had the peacock miraculous!
This is groundbreaking, I really do like this theory!
and also whenever gabriel is giving(freckin') orders to our cute blind sunshine(adrien) he twists the ring he always wearing on his hand and remember ephemeral episode he twist something,being hawkmoth,on his hand/glove and what he wears on his that hand.... THE RING!!!
I totally agree to your theory with Adrien being a sentimonster. I was watching Miraculous Secrets last night when I came across an episode where Gabriel was saying "If it wasn't for Nathalie, we wouldn't have found the miraculouses." This isn't the same thing that he said, but something like that. He also mentioned that if they hadn't used the peacock miraculous, Emily will still be with them. Gabriel was saying all this in front of Emily in the basement. Them using the peacock miraculous to create something that led to Emily being in a coma in the basement is a strong lead if Adrien's a half or full sentimonster. I mentioned "half" because maybe they used the miraculous to save Adrien? What are your thoughts on this? Also, can you make a video explaining the meaning of the Golden Painting of Emily? I think one of the reasons they've used the peacock miraculous is because Emily and Gabriel couldn't have a child. So they created one instead? The golden portrait in real life is the painting of "Adele". I know there's something much more about this, and I'd like to know your thoughts on this one. Thanks!
YES!!! I'm so glad you know about the secret episodes + I'd love to talk about the picture theory!! ❤️❤️
@@TheMayaBShow thank u thank u thank u🥰 I'm really invested in the show
Another reason that adrien might be a sentimonster is because in the episode Felix around the end right after Felix took one the the rings, Gabriel’s, when Gabriel told adrien to stay in the house he didn’t listen but every other time adrien does what he is told
okay im not really on board with the whole sentimonster theory, but i gotta admit that this video was pretty convincing. i do have to disagree on 8:42 point though. thomas has tweeted before that the suits are like protective armor, weaking the cataclysm's power which is why he didn't crumble
Ephemeral gave me sentimonster chills.
Cause (SPOILER), Gabriel touched his ring and then said some french things and then adrien listened to him.
Same when he was hawkmoth, the scene with Adrien's mom.
So yeah, btw i hate that Luka reversed everything
Ikr
theories: i think what if adrien and Emily were in the car and got to an accident and adrien was bleeding emily did everything she could to bring him back and used the peacock miracoulus and used her ring to bring him back and emily suffered from all the coughing ..... thats all btw i love ur vids bye!!!!
3 years later...It's confirmed they're sentimonsters...
I'm 50 50 on that he is a sentimonster or isn't there's just some ways he is and isn't 0-0
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yep it's confirmed they're sentimonsters
Also in season 4 (In the episode Gabriel Agreste) Gabriel told Felix that he could erase him from existence with a snap of his fingers
OH please, I don't want Adrien to experience this :( Our boy's too precious :(
IKR!!
Soo..
Imagine if Adrien is senti-monster
Then...
Marinette fell in love with a senti-monster
She fell in love with a wax statue...
If Adrien was a sentimonster than Natalie would have felt chat noir being a sentimonster and the identity would be revealed
The holder of the peacock miraculous does not sense a sentimonster, only an amok. That is why Nathalie felt Feast, feast had swallowed it’s amok :)
there's more valid points as to why Adrien would be a sentimonster but i just don't want him to because he's to precious and perfecttt
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The 'symbol' inside of the Native American miracle box is actually the miraculous sat there. You can tell as the other symbols inside the box are in a circle as well as them always been the same size. Maybe the twin rings are a miraculous just not in the Native American or Chinese miracle boxes :)
i dont think its a miraculous.. where is the kwamis..?
@@Axhena maybe it's damaged or something? Missing kwami idk would be cool! But again could just be a sentimental item :)
i believe theres nothing to do with the miraculous (⊃｡•́‿•̀｡)⊃
@@Axhena yeah I know that the rings are most likely just normal rings, but it would be cool as we've seen hidden miraculous before that have no kwamis (rabbit miraculous)
@@starutopluto But weirdly, In the incident of Kwami Buster.. marinette wears the rabbit miraculous too, while alix has it..
YESS!!! I definitely think Adrien is a sentimonster now that season 4 is finally done because a lot of people might have not noticed in the episode "Risk" Felix dressed up as ADrien and went to Gabriel and said "I am not going I don't wanna go" Gabriel was looking for the ring on his hand so he could twist it but since he gave it to Natalie she twisted it and said "go Adrien " and after Felix said yes Natalie and also in the episodes in the past when he twists his ring Adrien said "yes father" and maybe that's why Felix wanted the ring so bad so he couldn't be controlled and maybe Gabriel and Emillie created Adrien and eneded up making a good sentimonster and bad and they just gave it to Felix's mom or maybe she was a sentimonster all along that's why she also wanted the ring
Felix and Adrien are technically biologically half brothers. Let me explain.
Amelie and Emilie are biologically the same person. Identical twins of the same sex have the exact same DNA, as the DNA is just split and not coming from two different eggs and two different sperms. Due to this, most twins children look alike even if they have different fathers/mothers because of them sharing that same strand of DNA as TECHNICALLY they are half siblings even if they come from different parents COMPLETELY bc of their mothers DNA. That wouldn’t explain why Adrien and Felix look identical, but it closes half the case of them being sentimonsters.
Now about some of the theories you mentions about adrien. The only one that didn’t make sense is the Miraculor episode theory about him being cataclysmed. You said that Cat Noir malfunctioned after being cataclysmed just like the sentimonsters in reflectdoll and queen banana. But you failed to take into consideration, in the episode Ladybug, we learned that while transformed, they are nearly invensable, and that it took a great force for them to even be hurt a little bit. In Style Queen, we see Master Fu naming the times Plaggs cataclysms destroyed. We’ve seen the Cat miraculous being just as dangerous, just more controlled and precise with the using of the jewel. This fact along with what Cat Noir said in Ladybug would make the most logical sense to why Cat Noir was in the pain he was in with what we have from miraculous straight forward vs a stretched idea of Adrien being a sentimonster. I really like your theories, and listening to what you have on the table.