Will it WORK? / Speed wing + electric paramotor
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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I always wanted to try flying my speed wing paraglider with a paramotor. I used the electric SP140 paramotor from openppg. and was pulling 12kw pretty consistently so I would imagine this isn't ideal and possibly a gas powered paramotor would work better for this application?
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Love the 'you can do it', 'give it a try' attitude! That is what life is about. Keep doing what you love!
Good to see you get up and back down safely on the speed wing! I bet you're all ready for some weather that doesn't hurt when you go outside. Cmon spring!
Funny you doing an E D commercial with a baby on the way!😅😅
That little wing HAULS! Power hungry, too - holy crapper! 12,000W!! That's some serious juice! Glad you didn't cross your tips on landing, lol - that would've sucked! 😁 We just had the coldest temps ever out here in MA. Was -13.4° with a -26° wind chill at one point! I couldn't keep my leaky house above 64°, even with that massive coal boiler I just put in. It was CRAZY! Windows were all ice, too. The little river in my back yard froze enough that I could walk on it in just 8 hour flat! That wind was BRUTAL. 🥶 And today it was 45°, lol! Gotta love New England!
Nice to see you again! Hope you make more flying videos.
That was truly scary - once is enough!
"It takes a lot of amps to keep me up." Perhaps, give Roman a call?
Great to see you the other day!! Proud of our local boys!! Good luck in all you do!
Lol. Good job J man. First winter I have not flown my motor a winter flight yet, This did not make me feel like it either,Lolol. Ya, I will.
Already see the glow in silvija’s face. ❤
Remember you have a baby coming ❤
Excellent
I wonder if temperature was a factor in the Amp reading. Nice you see you both out doing what you love.
My electric bike has about 1/3rd of normal power when it is less then 12c+ outside... And in minus degrees it gets even worse, it is ok if you go right away with hot batteries and keep using battery power but stop for a few min and the batteries get cold and have no power and you have to pedal like crazy to go against wind or up a hill because there is no power...
@@a64738 I have found this to be true as well.
Your ground crew was on the job! Great job Silvija!!
Who was the lady helping you and Silvija film ?
Real neat video.
Phew you were travelling real fast, love your adventureistic approach, so enthusiasticly exploring all these projects it all looks like so much fun !!
Keep on keeping on !
Silv is looking great , your a lucky Dawg xx
I hit my own thermal!!! 🤣🤣🤣 did you record your speeds? That's voltage sag caused by cold air! You're crazy for doing that. Good job, happy doug?
you are or you're. your is possessive.
Maybe take some extra Roman to help you keep it up easier? 😊
Yup thats the ship:)
Good morning from Minnesota! Fun episode!
staying tuned for the upcoming jet powered pack and wing. it will happen.
awesome !
…did I see right, the tubing of the prop cage on the L side appears broken ?
It came unhooked on takeoff. The line did catch the GoPro when the wing came up and pulled the tube out.
8:17mins shows tube separation
I was going to say something cause I saw it too. "(hoop not connected)
My go-to lately has been a 14m miniwing on my sp140. The battery can handle peak power (20+ kW) for a minute or two. I try to keep it under 15 kW constant. Manufacturer recommends keeping it under 10 kW constant to help the life of the battery.
Oh wow 😯 that’s awesome 😎 thanks for sharing that info! We need to hookup one of these days and do some flying!
I am planning to buy sp140 as my first paramotor to begin my training. Do think this would fly efficiently with grade A wings like Ozone Mojo2(28m) or MojoMax(32m)? Or will it diminish the flight duration?
@@MahaBali7975 you’ll have the highest duration with a slow, lifty beginner wing, Basically any EN-A wing. You won’t necessarily cover as much distance though. I’ve flown for an hour a couple times with my EN-A with no thermaling
that was close to inventing a helicopter energy-wise :-)
G,day Jonas and Silvjia from Sydney Australia.
Nice to see your faces, keep warm
Best wishes
🌏🇭🇲
Keep it hard 24/7🐳
I just wanted to drop a quick comment hoping you two are ok?! It’s been a minute since you posted and I hope all is well and maybe a vid’s coming soon (and a baby!) 🤞👍or should I say: I hope everything is all Wright, brother 😂
I've just been thinking the same thing. Hope everything is going well.
"It's not like I have to use the brakes!" What a witty bastard.
Great fun.... fully enclosing the prop cage would help avoid cutting your lines. Keep the video's coming ✌️🇬🇧
Why no fully enclosed prop cage on that thing? Keep the escapades coming and hope you find the RC plane. I'm flying my RC F22 Raptor today in honor of the barroon shoot down!
Barroon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Success! Sort of.
Scary to see your hoop parts disengaged on your left... (like 2:46) This could end not well. Glad you're ok!
Cool!
I wonder if a prop with a higher speed will perform better. Because now you needed to have the RPM above the designed range of the prop probably. The speed you need to maintain airborne is a lot higher of course than with the normal wing.
I think that applies to gas engines, but is there a significant impact for an electric motor? Feels like the RPM range differential from 'designed' probably wouldn't be that much of a difference for the electric. Bah! I need more learning!
@@JRSkola an electric engine has a specific value called Kv or the rpm per volt. This value indicates the speed at which the motor wants to run at a specific voltage. This wil also influence and define max torque at a specific speed. If your airspeed is very fast the motor just doesn't want to run any faster and is giving only very little torque. A higher speed prop will fix this issue.
@@basgoossen I think I follow -- but do you think the rpm of the prop is appreciably different between a speed wing, and a regular wing. My guess is that the delta between those two RPMs wouldn't be practically different.
Well i'm not an expert with regards to those bigger motors, but i do have quite a bit of experience with smaller brushless engines on model aircraft and speed drones. To my knowledge the RPM of the propeller is quite proportional to the airspeed. And i'd figure the airspeed of a stable flying speedwing is much higher than that of a stable flying normal paramotor wing. My guess is that to generate enough lift on the speedwing you might even need to go 1.5 to twice as fast as with a standard wing but that is purely an assumption based on size and wingprofile. So hence the prop speed will also be proportionaly higher. But again i'm no expert and i do not have experience with flying craft of this size and weight.
@@basgoossen I think it would be a fascinating chart to see a composite of airspeed vs rpm, motor torque, and power draw. As you're alluding to, perhaps a 'constant speed prop' much like Miro from Scout has created could eeek out a few more minutes of flight time from a battery system.
keep them coming ....dont need superman feats but fun
.... sucking 3 Xs the power would be a bit concerning for sure .. but if you don't experiment, you don't know .... don't think you were completely comfortable with your helmet's visibility allowance judging by the amount you were moving your head to see .. to me the situation looked cold, and could not help thinking a full face shield with balaclava may be an idea .... baby bump is growing, so cool .... thx for the share .. as always .. never stop dreaming, ust dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....
Need a lower pitch prop and get rid of the visor on your helmet it pulls helmet up in front.
cant believe I missed this one, think I got Patreon straighened out finaly
You're flying deep in the brakes close to stall. Turn by leaning, not by using brakes and you'll lose less altitude. A Firefly isn't a speedwing, it's a miniwing. That gopro mount on your ppg is going to get you hurt or killed. Lines can easily be caught on it. Separated cage too.... so much lol
still a big fan of the Harry's shaver ad
Oh wow your friend flying his plane at -11F and no wind? I am sure it had amazing performance flying back home.
You are always entertaining!
Big J… lol. 😂
Do you keep the batteries hot before takoff? My experience with Electric Bike is that I get about 1/3 rd of the normal power as soon as the temperature outside is less then 12c+ if the batteries just stay in the cold for a few minutes before I go with the bike... As long as you use power they manage to keep warm if they was already warm but stop only for 5 min and all that power is gone for rest of the day....
Yes I do keep them warm inside before I go out.
And you are exactly right that the batteries will maintain temp if used. The multiple bad launches didn’t help that situation though.
You do know under load vs no load are entirely different right. Your 51% was not really how much power you had left, coasting slowly would have been a more accurate reading pulling way less amps. You need to find the sweet spot of average draw to battery life...
Always enjoy your videos, but that is a noisy unit. I had always heard that electrics were quiet.
It's because using the battery warms it up, so it has more energy.
Less risk Jonas. You have a baby coming.
What's up with the airbike Jonas
Cold weather flying on electric means you have no charge in the battery.
peukert effect?
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Right on, nobody wants a disfunctional reptile.... Especially if it's a snake!
I want to understand, which wing will consume more amp/power on electric paramotor a large 32feet, high lift, EN-A wing like MojoMax or a smaller size Spyder/Viper? Consider the fact that I don't need hight speed flying or acrobatics, just 15-20miles/hr slow flying.
Doesn't look chubby to me. I wouldn't want to put any unnecessary pressure on her:-)
Brooo ur net is supposed to be in front of the spars not behind. Jesus and your doing power forwards with that sketchy cage be careful man if u snag a line right it could suck ur hand back
So who was the pretty blonde?
That electric motor is either 100% of nada.
Why even bother with that propguard..? 100% crap design! Good crazy try though... 👍😎
Be real careful. Your baby needs a Daddy.
Als werdender Vater solltest Du auf solche Experimente verzichten.
Verletzungsgefahr zu groß
Continuing to attempt to fly with a clearly separated cage is reckless. You can't say you didn't notice it, because that was right near where the go pro was hanging up. The risk is not worth the reward.