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  • @Catboloni
    @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +38

    Important!!
    ‼IMPORTANT NOTE ‼
    Harmony TB changes (razor language) :
    1. Eidolon 4 : give break effect 15% of TB’s BE + 30% -> 15% of TB’s BE only
    2. ULT now give 37% BE (level 15 ? )and add some new terminology “super break

    • @CapyPara82
      @CapyPara82 5 місяців тому +1

      It's pretty expected for TB ult got adjusted 😅

    • @NeinKyori
      @NeinKyori 5 місяців тому

      So it balanced out to be the same
      What I’m more worried is the old ults had “ally do extra break dmg = 60% (120%) of their break dmg” but it’s missing in the new version

  • @maxmanchik
    @maxmanchik 5 місяців тому +158

    TL;DR
    Harmony MC is gonna be an actual five star, not a pseudo one

    • @Gration_
      @Gration_ 5 місяців тому +26

      Ehh, I personally think the only bad path they've had was destruction. Preservation was and still is pretty decent in what it does (Definitely not on Fu's level though, but I feel it's ridiculous to expect that). They were like a standard 5*.

    • @maxmanchik
      @maxmanchik 5 місяців тому +34

      @@Gration_ I mean, Preservation is good, yeah. But it's on a level of a 4 star (It's not even close to being standard banner 5 star, cause Gepard is just better). While Trailblazer is technically considered a five star unit. But this path, Harmony Trailblazer. This path feels genuinely five star level

    • @Gration_
      @Gration_ 5 місяців тому +6

      @@maxmanchik Gepard being better doesn’t mean it’s not 5* level. Imagine thinking another dps isn’t a 5* because someone else is a better dps.

    • @maxmanchik
      @maxmanchik 5 місяців тому +19

      @@Gration_ But look, standard banner is a bar. If you pass the bar, you're on 5 star level. Preservation Trailblazer doesn't pass, Harmony Trailblazer does

    • @raneilpalana3912
      @raneilpalana3912 5 місяців тому +21

      Fire tb still holds a lot of value. They can contribute well to the team given that they’re still the only unit that has a “true taunt” ability. Their only downside is the paper thin shielding.

  • @cubicmeters8335
    @cubicmeters8335 5 місяців тому +95

    How do u have 500 subs but consistently pull 4k veiws under 24 hrs💀💀💀💀

    • @helpbtsisinmydreams5977
      @helpbtsisinmydreams5977 5 місяців тому

      This guy and volkin both view bot.
      Mid ass content and that volkin guy has 1k comments on every video with 1k views.

    • @douglasnunes1515
      @douglasnunes1515 5 місяців тому +11

      magic
      of the UA-cam Algorithm

    • @Beflamesmygirl
      @Beflamesmygirl 5 місяців тому +28

      He's reviewing leaked stuff, meaning that people that do make this for a living and proper monetization can't do it yet 'because it can be taken down and have them flagged. So yeah, it's basically a first serve thing.

    • @unzkipriime4283
      @unzkipriime4283 5 місяців тому

      because most of us don't care who covers it as long as it's covered but are not interested in seeing the other content

    • @anassright5342
      @anassright5342 5 місяців тому

      Good thumbnal. And title

  • @jian6569
    @jian6569 5 місяців тому +45

    Used to main TB when I first started playing since I really likes their look lol. I'm happy to see harmoniTB seems pretty okay especially since I don't have a 5 star harmony lol. Maybe it's funny to run mono imaginary with Dr ratio, adventurine, loucha and TB lol

    • @omnisneeze
      @omnisneeze 5 місяців тому +2

      Mono imaginary is a waste for harmony mc since imaginary breakes have the lowest multipliers + the units which you mentioned also don't build break effect

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +8

      i dont think dr ratio here is not the best candidate to be built with BE? but yeah if its just for fun i think thats not a prob ^^

    • @Zerocyxone9
      @Zerocyxone9 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@omnisneezeyou dont need breakdamage for a mono imaginary team. they will imprison the enemy til the end of turn simple as that.

  • @manojnagabushan8139
    @manojnagabushan8139 5 місяців тому +24

    After reveiwing the leaks of both robin and trailblazer it seems good but they both are not at equal levels I would
    Say trailblazer is good if u weakness break fast and thus the damage would be insane but robin gives consistent damage when her ultimate is up
    Most of ppl are just disappointed at robin s kit as it is an alternative kit both sparkle and bronya and doesn't provide a buff unique to her
    But it s a hoyo Game in future like topaz robin might boost up in value

    • @Fl3cheF
      @Fl3cheF 5 місяців тому +3

      She’s also a follow up attack support characters which we did not get yet and thats awesome on its own !

    • @PartherB8
      @PartherB8 5 місяців тому +3

      Why we comparing a break support to a follow up support? M I missing sum

    • @piscye1806
      @piscye1806 5 місяців тому

      There both harmony ​@@PartherB8

    • @PartherB8
      @PartherB8 5 місяців тому +1

      @@piscye1806 And they do completely different things. Your point?

    • @ДюсековИльяс
      @ДюсековИльяс 5 місяців тому

      ​@@piscye1806one is also free

  • @yafito2
    @yafito2 5 місяців тому +12

    My take on HMC now that the kit is final (if i'm not wrong) with build, and synergy (I'm no guide maker but I want to do shit to get some opinions about my take and discuss it further):
    - HTB's talent is useless. with S2 Cogs, HTB Ult is already has Perma uptime: (6 energy * 7 hits) -> 42 + 5 (from Cogs S2) * 3 turns = 141/140. Some might say it's for SP positivity, but i digress. Any other rotation will brings you to either use 5% planar or ERR which is a lost of BE. So while I understand, I still disagree.
    -Skill is actually not that bad. With ult up and your enemy(es) weakness broken, you can already deal quite amount of damage to be considered as Sub-Dps because of the 7 hits that will be converted into Super Break Dmg. this is also the reason you want to skill spam.
    -With you can only use one Watchmaker set (its effect can't stack), and Ruan Mei already can go 3 turn rotation, I, myself, will build my HMC as Sub-Dps when the next BE + Def Pen relic drops.
    -Almost all the changes to HTB since V1 were nerfs:
    1. The ult gave you super break damage based of 108% your break base damage (Ult lv 12) which means you could buff your base break DMG from 3767 (LV80 char) into 4,068. now it's fixed 100% which means it will always stays 3767
    2. While supposedly a *Bad translation* the first trace went from 30%/40%/50%/60%/70% but now it starts from 20% and ends with 60%. Which is a 10% nerf in my eyes.
    -Final verdict:
    •The goods: HTB is a unit that can ups all of your allies dmg floor to be considered as Sub-Dps (if you use some BE sub stats on them), good BE enabler but really prone to power creep (which is okay, HTB is free), while His value drops against non imaginary weakness, the character is still pretty good as Sub-Dps in the team, once the enemy is broken. The value itself is comparable with decent 4 stars with the power to enable your allies as good Sub-Dps. is mid-late investment character.
    •The bads, i'm really disappointed with the "Nerfs" and the useless talent. The biggest offender for me is the talent. If it gives +10 energy to all allies (or at the very least, the ally who broke the enemy's weakness) it should be okay, but they decide to give *NOTHING* as the talent. Which is where my pessimistic view of future BE enabler (Ruan Mei is not BE enabler, she is buffer) stems from, Hoyo definitely already decide to make a new BE enabler with actual talent, Sig LC, and better skill.
    -Build:
    •Stats:
    *Chest* : whatever with highest speed and BE/ ATK (for Sub DPS. Why not Crit? Because you want to invest most of your subs in BE and speed)
    *Boots* : Speed with BE Sub
    *Rope* : BE (S2 Cogs is enough for your Energy)
    *Orb* : whatever with highest speed and BE/ ATK (for Sub DPS)
    •Why ATK orb for DPS:
    ATK Body 43.2%
    ATK Orb 43.2%
    Imaginary 39%
    HTB base ATK with Memory (446+423 = 869)
    HTB with ATK orb and chest (863*(1+43%+43%)+352)= 2,129
    With ATK Chest only (863*(1+43%)+352)= 1,594
    (Only base damage * damage% multiplier for the WORST case scenario)
    Skills with ATK+ ATK = (55% * 2.129) * (100%+14% from trace) = 1,686 * 7 hits = 11,083
    ATK + Type= (55% * 1,594) * (100%+39% orb + 14 from trace) = 1,389 * 7 hits = 9,723
    ATK + ATK is 12,27% better. See it as you see fit.
    •Sets: Watchmaker (No Ruan Mei), 2 piece Thief+Watchmaker (With Ruan Mei), Upcoming new BE DPS sets (if DPS)
    •Planar: *Talia*
    •Subs stats: Speed (bare minimum is 145 for *Talia* , 150 with Ruan Mei, 160 without Ruan Mei), BE (150% is bare minimum, go higher if you can)
    -Synergy:
    • *Mei* is a must because of how made in heaven both of their kit is.
    • literally enable *Xueyi* from decent to "actually pretty neat" and will be her best teammate.
    • *Gallagher* , ever seen a healer deals 30-100k damage in SU? Now you can experience it outside SU and into MOC with a low price of placing HTB with him.
    • *Any future BE DPS* including but not limited to The Space Cowboy *Boothill* .

    • @RiverFowler
      @RiverFowler 5 місяців тому

      break luka will have crazy synergy too, enhanced basic hits many many times and if every hit procs backup dancer then that's insane

  • @grimrow
    @grimrow 5 місяців тому +9

    dangg MC is actually good! might have to save up for boothill😮

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +7

      and we will be getting them for free. thats the best part ^^

  • @XephosDB
    @XephosDB 5 місяців тому +4

    I would read the A4 as it doubles the toughness dmg of tb's skill for the 1st use in each battle instead

  • @hungryfishie_
    @hungryfishie_ 5 місяців тому +11

    i love your channel so much. pls keep pumping out new vids~

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +1

      thank youuu! i will upload every week!

    • @hungryfishie_
      @hungryfishie_ 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Catboloniwill you be doing a vid on best upcoming characters to invest in? 👀

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +2

      @@hungryfishie_ i think this is a good idea. thank youu

  • @ottersaurus
    @ottersaurus 5 місяців тому +1

    If the Sam leaks are real then this Trailblazer is a free pretty insane support for Sam

  • @UACLive
    @UACLive 5 місяців тому +2

    So, lemme see something.
    HTB is based on BE, aside from the regular atk,cr,cd,spd.
    And the Ultimate boosts the team, and HTB has a bunch of RM-esque passive bonuses, so why kot use her LC?
    With RM's LC, you get an extra 60BE, your ult gives a party wide dmg boost, and if you have 150% or more BE, You gain a skill point every time you ult. (And more BE on HTB means bigger BE buff to the rest of the team)
    HTB w/LC uses Ult and gives:
    -Backup Dancer (Super Break)
    -Dmg Bonus (24% for 3 turns at S1)
    -free SP (150+BE req.)
    At E6, that give HTB a 7-hit boosted skill for free every ult (Or however else you want to use the sp lol)

    • @SlL222
      @SlL222 5 місяців тому

      It’s pretty op if wanna use hypercarry HMC. He gets ult faster than Ruan and can abuse LC’s passive. At the stages with only imaginary weakness HMC works really well

  • @Tienfairy327
    @Tienfairy327 5 місяців тому +2

    Overrated 😠😠

  • @rebbudesu5088
    @rebbudesu5088 5 місяців тому +3

    I got too mamy harmony chars. And im pulling for robin. Dear god 😭

    • @oghenekenoekelemu6865
      @oghenekenoekelemu6865 5 місяців тому +2

      I am also pulling for robin mono HARMony is good stay strong and win your 50 50's for me cause acheron did me dirty

  • @keysi06
    @keysi06 5 місяців тому +7

    Time to build break Sushang... been thinking about it and this just solidifies building her

  • @gamerboysadman3442
    @gamerboysadman3442 5 місяців тому +4

    Dude you are so underrated. You deserve more appreciation ❤

  • @kromndevil1
    @kromndevil1 5 місяців тому +2

    Hopefully the scaling and ratios are much better than preservation tb. The shielding was so lackluster, but he was the only shielder I have

    • @123soukoku
      @123soukoku 5 місяців тому

      preservation tbs main role was taunting enemies

  • @young__blacksmith
    @young__blacksmith 5 місяців тому +1

    Clarification: I don’t think the A4 trace applies to every skill use. Only the very first time you use it in each battle (but please correct me if I’m wrong. The wording is very strange.)

  • @Ixarus6713
    @Ixarus6713 5 місяців тому +1

    Maybe with this we can finally heal the damage we took when Firefly got stabbed and then came back. ;(
    My heart can't take this man!

  • @key_mochi7157
    @key_mochi7157 5 місяців тому +1

    I swear to god if he get a chair/a hard ass fish as a weapon on the next path he obtain, I’m gonna drop on my feet.

  • @philbourque9337
    @philbourque9337 5 місяців тому +1

    So Harmony is imaginary... Think they are trying to tell us something?

  • @cwm464
    @cwm464 5 місяців тому +2

    Wait, the 50% break efficiency from Ruan Mei is only going to boost him by 1 bar, since it is additive

    • @ishfail
      @ishfail 5 місяців тому +1

      it’s multiplicative. i tested with yukong

  • @anime-lad9395
    @anime-lad9395 5 місяців тому +4

    How about slotting yukong in the team. Can her ult give good number. I'm intrigued

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 5 місяців тому +2

      Break damage doesn’t scale off of crit or attack, so Yukong’s ult wouldn’t really boost the break damage. Her A4 trace would be the only thing that helps (and even then, it’d only help for the Img Supporting units’s damage and not the DPS’s damage), but there are probably better options
      Edit: I suppose Yukong’s talent that boosts toughness depletion would be nice but not needed. They didn’t really struggle to lower toughness

    • @maxmanchik
      @maxmanchik 5 місяців тому +1

      @@awesomeperson5150 Yeah, Hanya for speed could be amazing or Bronya for chaining the break dps' turns back to back, since its not the dmg% or crit dmg that Bronya gives is what matters, but the amount of toughness break dps can reduce

    • @izanagiuzumaki7325
      @izanagiuzumaki7325 5 місяців тому

      @@awesomeperson5150 Doesn't the damage only scale with break effect and character level? Yukong A4 increased Img DMG doesn't contribute anything to the formula, does it?

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 5 місяців тому

      @@izanagiuzumaki7325 Harmony Trailblazer deals Imaginary Break damage, which should count as Imaginary damage. That being said, Imaginary has the lowest break damage so it’s suboptimal

    • @izanagiuzumaki7325
      @izanagiuzumaki7325 5 місяців тому

      @@awesomeperson5150 gotcha well that's good to know. Planetary Rendezvous and Penecony planar sets are still a way to go then.

  • @maik4218
    @maik4218 5 місяців тому +5

    Great vid, i am looking forward to build a kind of omny break team with Acheron, silverwolf, welt as sustain (and 2nd nihility bc i got unlucky on acheron banner) and harmony tb. The theory behind this team is that acheron can omni break any element with her ult plus silverwolf can implant either quantum, thunder or imaginary. So basically all my units would contribute to breaking the enemy and constantly delaying them plus welt ultimate. I really hope it will work because i love the rought of welt sustain with a break support to help with both dmg and survivability by controlling the enemy. Toughts on this? (i think ruan mei would fit even better but sadly i dont have her)

  • @spoopyboy3038
    @spoopyboy3038 5 місяців тому +5

    By the way their ult animation won’t show clockwise if other team members are there

  • @fr3quency_
    @fr3quency_ 5 місяців тому +2

    New video on Boothill changes plz

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +2

      i will make it together with his possible builds

  • @josueravena3464
    @josueravena3464 5 місяців тому +1

    Finally! A male harmony unit at freaking last!!!

  • @Renkay141
    @Renkay141 5 місяців тому +1

    New mc is doggie. Why? He buffs nothing other than 100% ult uptime.
    Only buffs break effect. 😅😅 lets hope nihility is better

    • @SlL222
      @SlL222 5 місяців тому

      And what is your point? He just casually adds 150-200k for each Boothill’s attack, not counting his buffing abilities

    • @Renkay141
      @Renkay141 5 місяців тому +1

      @SlL222 oh amazing, he's usable with only...
      Ghallaghwr(more break effect means more healing) Sam's kit(break means more dmg). Bothell (more break effect means more smg) xueyi and so forth. Yet, it is useless for 75% of the cast.
      New mc is doggie. Just because there is 1 outlier doesn't make him any better.
      Tingyun, ruan mei, bronya can out perform. Atk% and dmg% will usually perform better.

    • @Renkay141
      @Renkay141 4 місяці тому

      Thank you! Bothell, if you get him. Sam, if you get him. Xueyi and galla... just need more units. It's f2p friendly, just need more units that aren't 5 star

  • @OppaiGuySky
    @OppaiGuySky 5 місяців тому

    Just lost my E1 Aventurine to a Bailu. I had planned to get Boothill for a while now, so i was pretty happy. Seeing as HTB is gonna be a Break Buffer im way more excited.

  • @Zerocyxone9
    @Zerocyxone9 5 місяців тому

    i already said this in my video that break meta is coming before even acheron got live...its pretty obvious where hoyo wants to take us.

  • @prophet4722
    @prophet4722 5 місяців тому +1

    OVER-RIZZ

  • @hvcskmagyar
    @hvcskmagyar 5 місяців тому +2

    I mean, he is kinda welt just in harmony and less usefull skill

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +3

      skill only useful with enemy that has imaginary weakness. otherwise, meh

    • @daneespenocilla
      @daneespenocilla 5 місяців тому +1

      On the right conditions, Harmony Trailblazer can deal 100k damage on a weakness broken Elite enemy using the Bounce skill.
      Skill also generate lots of energy for consistent ult.

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +1

      @@daneespenocilla yess i already put the calculation in the yellow table in the video. they deals 109K against weakness broken argenti

  • @socckks
    @socckks 5 місяців тому +2

    should i do err or break rope

    • @asoret
      @asoret 5 місяців тому

      probably err

    • @PartherB8
      @PartherB8 5 місяців тому +1

      Most likely break, her skill looks like it gives a lot of energy and can easily make her 3 turn and potentially 2 turn ult. But that’s what I’ve seen

  • @hentikirby7142
    @hentikirby7142 5 місяців тому

    The recent moc has made me realize just how many bosses have toughness dmg negation.

  • @someoneidkwho860
    @someoneidkwho860 5 місяців тому +1

    what about Kafka and black swan cos I don't have ruan may and will he be better than asta?

    • @gregstunts347
      @gregstunts347 5 місяців тому +1

      TB doesn’t provide much of a bonus at all to dot teams. So no, he won’t be better than Asta. The reapplication of break damage won’t boost the dot damage at all. He’ll only boost the dots obtained by weakness breaking, through his small, teamwide break effect buff.
      I’m also in the same boat as you haha, I joined the game shortly before Ruan Mei’s banner ended, and I went for Kafka and Black Swan.

    • @someoneidkwho860
      @someoneidkwho860 5 місяців тому

      wait so brake dmg only buffs the like dmg that procs when the enemy is broken?

    • @luissaumeth8000
      @luissaumeth8000 5 місяців тому

      @@someoneidkwho860 it only buffs the damage that happens the moment the enemy bar is broken, any attack after that is not affected by BE, unless you are under HTB ultimate

  • @hayleymcgough8567
    @hayleymcgough8567 5 місяців тому

    we are making this out out to adventurine's grave

  • @tsyganko
    @tsyganko 5 місяців тому +2

    They are infinitely preferable to Robin. They don't sing one singular popsong on ult

  • @OdysseyNaafiri
    @OdysseyNaafiri 5 місяців тому

    Sam is a guy 🙄

    • @mandudebro1677
      @mandudebro1677 5 місяців тому +1

      You'll see whether thats true or not by the end of 2.1 story.

    • @Catboloni
      @Catboloni  5 місяців тому +1

      ummm 😅

    • @asoret
      @asoret 5 місяців тому

      who is going to tell him

    • @PartherB8
      @PartherB8 5 місяців тому +1

      Guys… who’s gonna tell em? 💀

    • @frakez6155
      @frakez6155 5 місяців тому +1

      You guys can tell him

  • @Mr.Heller
    @Mr.Heller 5 місяців тому +1

    Basically: Have Ruan Mei - pretty nice.
    Don't have Ruan Mei - useless trash.
    And they're doing it not because it's a good rational decision for the game, to make it better or interesting, but because of greed, no other reasons whatsoever.

    • @OdysseyNaafiri
      @OdysseyNaafiri 5 місяців тому +2

      still good without Ruan Mei

    • @Mr.Heller
      @Mr.Heller 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@OdysseyNaafiriNo, it isn't. There's exactly zero reason to use it over any other Harmony character. Taking Bronya at 300 is pretty much a given unless you already have her, so what possible reason is there to use HTB over Bronya, even with Ruan Mei as second suppprt? The answer is simple - there isn't. Bronya just gives much more, Tingyun gives much more, Pela gives much more in raw numbers, Asta is a discount Ruan Mei, and gives a lot too, Hanya, underrated and nerfed as she is, still very much placeable in a lot of teams. Even Yukong is a very serious Crit buffer. There's no place for HTB in any team. Hypercarry has better free options, DoT has better free options, FuA has better free options. Break team _requires_ Ruan Mei, a limited 5 star, and HTB can't even contribute to breaking in a non-imaginary target. That kit is a disposable trash and should be revamped into something good. I'm not a Genshin player and don't want to eat shit just because I like the game.

    • @oghenekenoekelemu6865
      @oghenekenoekelemu6865 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Mr.Heller Eh you say that but you dont know unless it is in the game plus star rail is quite generous so you shoukd have an optimistic aspect on things plus you say that harmony tb is pointless but then mihoyo will start busting out like 12 meta characters that work perfectly with them and it is more likely since they are free.

    • @asoret
      @asoret 5 місяців тому +2

      @@oghenekenoekelemu6865 I think Sam already will prefer him over ruan mei if the rumors are true, because she wants to break the enemy multiple times instead of having them broken forever, plus she wants to get hit like other destructions units, there is already many showcases of harmony tb without ruan mei and they work great anyways, the damage is lower without her but still adds a lot in a break effect team when the enemy is already broken and you are in a weird state waiting for them to recover
      Even in the cases where HTB can't contribute to breaking an enemy they still get the benefit after the rest of the team did it, like boothill that can implant physical, sam could implant fire weakness

    • @PartherB8
      @PartherB8 5 місяців тому +1

      The cope is insane.

  • @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_d0dd115
    @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_d0dd115 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow! Amazing! Love this! Keep up the great work!

  • @DaburuTori
    @DaburuTori 5 місяців тому

    When i read Backup dancer I thought of pvz xD