Great video dude, I started to watch 6 others but none of them explained this as simply as yours. I have the smart 3 as well, did not see this video in time and burned a coil in a Resilient Sounds Platinum 12D1,🤦♂️ had it wired to 2ohm. And about 3/4 gain. as you know that's a bit over 2krms for the subs ratings. Probably close to 2700rms.. So I'm waiting for my recone and will set gain correctly this time.. any info on the clip meter wiring? My wires got pulled off the board. Dont know what goes where
I did same thing with a clip monitor. And not sure how they go. I'll look at one in my car that works after work tomorrow. Just leave me another comment tomorrow so I don't forget. And I'm glad I could help👍👊😎💯
Great Video and thank you for making it my friend. 🙏 Question for you if I may. Once you reconnect the subs to the amp will the voltage change? I heard someone in another video mention something about rail voltage with and without load in an amplifier will be different. Appreciate your time and input. 🙏
Just got my first Taramps, an HD3000 1-ohm. I have it on a couple of Orion 10” from the mid 90s (2-ohm mono total) and this shows me how to intelligently set it lower to not cook those guys. It’s scary how much power this amp can put out, I’m very impressed!
@@JULIANysuHOHNER They are close. But the vfx is probably better from what I've seen. But I've only owned the xfls. And only skar subs I owned were the ddx . But have got some killer Demo's from vfx's. But both are good 👍
Just noticed you was In A saturn ion just had my solobaric 15 in it that rattle it like hell couldn't believe it fit like it did when 1st got it and installed it in a 93 Cavalier then 91 grand prix after that but 3rdly that ion was weighed down then timing went replaces by 2000 durango suvs bring more options I don't think I'll have another sedan build for while just so limited and no space no doubt had heads turning in that 03 ion downtown Seattle and places😂😂
What if im clipping at a voltage lower than max rated rms ,lights are dimming too could low voltage be the cause i did a big 3 and it helped a little allowing me to crank the volume up a bit more before clipping but my 3k watt amp is clipping tuned low using ohms law at about 1250 watts
Hey i need help with my setup im having trouble but i got a 3700 watt amp and 2 15s dvc 1300 rms each how do i calculate this do i add the 1300 to male 2600 and calculate based off that ? How ould go about adjusting the gain for that ? I only have a multi meter
My sub is 900rms my amp is 1000rms So I would do 900 x 1ohm (sub wired down to) then square root of 900 which is 30 volts and that is what I’d set it to?
@@bassjunkie2020 oks so idk what I did wrong but I feel like the sound of the speakers inside are low and the sub is playing so I hook up everything but need to tune the amp and so everything was dial down except the low pass and then I proceed to put the volume 75 percent and play a test hertz of 50 and then adjusted the gain so if there’s anything wrong that I did I feel like it was louder before the sub came into play
This procedure is a very much sought after topic with amplifiers being as big and bad as they are today. It's easy to get an amplifier that does way too much for your subs and you need to turn down that amp so you don't burn out a voice coil.
I have 2 kicker L7 12inch q class 2 ohm on a taramps 1800.1 d 1 ohm should I wire them down to 1 ohm or should I just get the 2 ohm version of the 1800 watt taramps for the best performance out of them? Or should I get a bigger taramps 2ohm amp like the 2k or 3k version and just keep it down cause the kivkers are 900rms I believe... so that's why I figured the 1800 watt taramps would be perfect... but I just am not sure if the subs being a 2 ohm sub would be better to be blpowered by a 2 ohm amp or if it would be better to just wire them down to 1ohm.. please any help would be much appreciated 🙏
I'd wire them down to 1ohm and get a Taramps md 3k. And do set the gain at 1800 rms. If the subs do good. You can turn it up slowly until it is perfect. Just keep your eye on clip light. And listen to make sure it doesn't sound distorted 👍😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 ok perfect thanks man I really appreciate it..I have the clip light add on and rca bass knob also...now I just have to figure out how the heck I wire them down to 1 ohm... I have no clue how to do that lol
There is so much room for error in this method IMO. There are too many variables including impedance rise. That's why I've set my amps by ear for over 25 years. I've used this method a few times to try it and there was always performance left on the table that I could hear but on paper it doesn't equate. To each their own I suppose. You did explain the method well. Good video.
Thanks and I set mine by ear to but have used this method to know what it should be. But usually good amps are under rated so you can set them higher without clipping.😎💯
I get how to get the voltage my question is i have two 600watt rms subs at 2ohm..so do i just square root 1200 as 600x2 ..or is it 1200 per sub so id add 1200x2 for each sub and square root that..or 1 2 3 subs it does not matter?
Well if you have 2 subs both 600 rms then you will need 1200 rms to push them. So 1200 × 2 =2400 square root is 48.98 volts. Just make sure your amp does 1200 rms
I've got to make an updated video that's an old video I plan on making the updated version soon of this video and explain a little more I've learned a lot since then
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks brother..UPDATE my nostrils are flapping NOW along with my rearview and side mirrors...APPRECIATE the response more then you know..WAKEY WAKEY neighbors😉👍
I got with the weakest rms. So if your sub is 1000 rms but your amp puts out 1500 rms. I'd do the sub. But if your sub is 1500 rms and your amp only puts out 1000 rms. I'd go with the amp then. That way your not clipping either way👍💯
Great video. correction at 12:33 - that's *_0.5 octaves_* below the enclosure tuning for the hi-pass(subsonic) filter .. not 5 octaves. so in your case if your port is tuned at 32hz you should set your hi-pass around @ 24hz.
Ok Thanks! I knew that but said it wrong. I wasn't the best at UA-cam back then I've got a lot better now. But thanks for pointing that out. So other's will know👍😎💯💨💨
High pass filter is different on a class d full range amplifier I barely crank my High pass filter up on my 8k 2ohm taramps? I running 2xv3 sundown 12s YOU have to include impedance rise also so I'm only pushing about 6 to 7000 watts maybe? On those two subwoofers and another thing my enclosure is 4.50 cubic feet at 32hertz? So it can take more power? And the bass is tighter?
If i have 2 subs , i need to calculate both of them or only one of them? Btw subs are on a stereo amp one sub per channel (2 channels). 40w*2 channels 4 ohm 45w rms subs 8inch.
Hey so i have a cadillac cts 07 and i used my factory head unit with a high low converter i have a Phoenix gold rx 1000w and 2 sundown lcs 12s d4 300 rms a piece so 600 rms combined. so how would i set my amp? I don’t know my head unit distortion either…
Sir, again, thank you. I just put a 320amp alt in my jeep patriot, along with the 2/0G big 3 upgrade. Stock battery. 1 Run of 0G to the back. Single 15. 2ohm dvc. 1500.1 amp @ 1ohm... 3.00 cubic slotted box. Gonna go set her right now. Later BASSHEAD
If I calculate for subs it comes out to 48.7 but if I calculate for my amp it comes out to 44.7 were would u set amp?? My subs are 2400rms and amp is 2000rms ..
You didn't have to. You can just leave the one unplugged. And tape the connector. But I found out later on that you can plug it in like normal. A rep from Brazil Taramps. Told me that. And I did and everything worked fine. But if your worried about it. Just plug one up to input. The 2nd is just to send signal to a 2nd amp. Because you can strap full range amos. But you can chain them and gain match. Hope this helps. Also goto Taramps web page and there is contact info at bottom of page. Email them and ask them about it. That's what I did! They have sent me new clip monitors over 50 decals and more! Great company 👍😎💯💨💨💨💨
nice video how i set the gain on my amp i have a 2500 watt rms sub and a 3500 watt amp rms on one ohm is a 2x2 ohm sub and have 2500 watt rms how i set that verry thanks i hope too hear
Back then I had 2 batteries. Which the smart 3 would go into protect a lot of it dropped below 11. I since solved that problem. I now run a Taramps md 8k. I have a JS 250 amp alternator big 4 all 0g welding cable and 40 ah limitless lithium battery
Not sure you have to if your only running 1 amp. But if you running 2 then yeah Y splinters. But I control both amps from 1 NVX bass knob. I used the signal out on the Smart 3 to the audio Legion 1600 . So I can cut signal from both amps. The audio Legion has its own bass knob also. So I got it hooked up as well. That way I can turn it off and just run the smart 3. For my 4 channel amp no bass knob. But I have them hooked up using a line out convertor. I have the converter hooked behind my head unit. I tapped into the speakers output wires coming from my head unit. Cause my head unit only has 2 RCA's out puts that are set for subs. So the line out convertor works like a charm. 👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 yall just fixed a thought i was having earlier..i was thinking man thats shitty no bass knob like my sundown amp,then i read this i remembered they have bass knobs that have rca inputs and outputs and u use the potentiometer to control to rca voltage from the head unit 🤷🏻♂️
I have a question would this be the same setup for 0.5 ohm because I have a single skar zvxV2 15 dual 1ohm so that's making it 0.5 ohm to the amp and the speaker also puts out 1500 rms but could handle more than what's it rated. By the way I have the same amp taramps 3k smart bass really hope I could get an answer
So I have an issue I can't even get close to what I need to get any bass and my clip light comes on with almost no gain my other amp hit harder and was only a 1k this is the md3000.1 1 ohms I'm wired to 1 and should be 3x louder but it's not what's the issue
@@bassjunkie2020 that's what I was thinking but I'm getting 1.3 v from each RCA from the back of my HU haven't tested output signal from the EQ I have the Rockville r7 EQ and I don't have a bass knob yet I'm about to get one but I'll have to re tune the amp but I got 4 8's rated at 1000 wrms each and my volt was set to 54.1 and that should put me at 3k watts but it only gets really loud at clipping point
@@bassjunkie2020 stripped my panels and rerouting my RCA's down the center of my truck to see if it's signal distortion from RCA and power/ speakers running down the same side hopefully it fixes it and I can get more clean single to boost power
Yes I know the amp he is using has been on dynoed UA-cam. And it tested higher then 3000 at 1ohm. And is the same amp I use to have. However it couldn't handle the 1500 sundown
Hi hope you can help me I have a max output subs at 1200w but it’s 2ohm sub and I have 4 channel amp is kenwood kac x4d max output 1200w but I bridge it to get max output ...at bridge is 300w so should I use the bridge output ?.. or should I just use the subs rating ?.? Plz plz help just a beginner...
Well the RMS of your amp is the peak rating. But I was only had 1 sub at that time. And the sub was rated at 1500, The amp was rated 3000. Now if I had 2 1500 RMS subs. I could have set it at 3000.😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 im messing with a 8 inch rn i put it +2+ n -2- its reading 1.4 on the ohms its a sound ordnance 80watts 160 peak can i run it like that or no?
I have two subs at 1800rms dvc 2 ohms and I'll be running two amps strapped to run them would I add 1800 to get 3600 and then times it by 2ohms? It'd be 7200 total then squared 84. 85 volts is that kinda high
I'm not sure. I think I know the answer. But I don't want to tell you wrong. Here's link to new Facebook page and group I made. A lot of bassheads in the group already. You can join and ask same questions maybe add some pictures to so we can see. It's why I made the group. It's for you guy's!👊👍💯 facebook.com/BassJunkies-108584201276758/
I just did the same process and when I play the test tones the amp shows that is clipping when I raise the gain and the meter shows me all kinds of numbers up an down. Any reason fo this?
Yes I have good electrical. What I figured out is that I had the head unit all the way up and also the loudness so there was a lot of distortion. I set the head unit to 35 and took loudness out and then was able to set the correct gain. I’m running a Skar EVL-D2 1250rms. I did the calculation and set the gain to 50 on the Taramps. System is sounding great. Thanks to your video is was simple to do. Keep up the good work 👍
I have the same amp, have set it with multi meter and clip indicator but when I turn it up the amp just goes into protect mode. The clip light does not flash at all just goes straight to protect
HELP PLEASE! MY amp is rated at 800@1ohm(pioneer 8601). My subs are 200watts nominal each(pioneer TS-W253R) and I have 3 subs. So what should I be reading on my multi-meter when setting the gain for these?
very nice video I have the same Amps I would like to set 1,000 watts do I need another battery someone told me these amps need current lots of it. Thank you.
Have another question about my md 8k. I have it set with multimeter. But when i turn up the sub a bit. It goes into protect mode. If i turn it down it doesnt. What could be fhe problem or should i look into replacement?
Try setting it with clip light. Turn your head unit up to volume you like to listen that usually doesn't distort. Then slowly turn the gain up till you see clip light come on. Now back the gain up a little. You should be good. If not check your grounds. Or might need better electrical
I believe i found the problem. My amp is moving much more when i turn it up. Maybe causing vibration issues. Have it bolted to the back of my seat. Will have to look into moving it. Sure appreciate the help.
You should disconnect the subs. Hook voltage meter in the place. Then play a 40 hz tone with your head unit and max lvl before distortion. Then turn multimeter up till you reach voltage you desire 👍👊😎💯
This is apparently not the way to set the Amp Gain. Big D and Sam Vernard from Barevids have done a thorough video on this. And Taramps even say that, the load has to be connected whilst you set the gain. As it has an Artificial Rail Cap, when the load is connected as opposed to the way BassJunkie is doing it in the video. Normally you would set it without the load. But in this instance for these amps, especially the Smart 3K you will have to get the load connected. Now the Question is, how would you do that, with Subwoofers, which are rated below 3k wrms? The answer, take it to a pro, or do the formula and get your value, play your test tone, 40hz -5db. And turn the gain up whilst your subwoofers are connected until you reach the desired voltage. I dont want to step on your toes man, as i watch your content alot. But with this Smart 3K, the load must be connected whilst you adjust the gain.
Not sure that is correct. Because ive had 9 Taramps amplifiers and set them like i did in video. Never had problem. Long as you set voltage to the number you come up with. Then you will be fine. I don't think it's very smart to have subs hooked up running continuous test tone through your subs. Doesn't sound like a good idea.
@@bassjunkie2020 this is the video i am referring to. JL and other manufacturers recommend to have no speakers or load connected. But Taramps do. ua-cam.com/video/DxMGPhNASl4/v-deo.html
Hey I’m new to the smart amps but I just got a smart 3 from a guy he had the left and right rca jacks plugged into the input and output on the amp could that cause any damage to the amp?
No You can use both rcas as input. But if you have 2 sub amps you can get a Y - Splitter to hook 2 amps! Nice feature! In that case use the top rca for your main then use out put rca for 2nd sub amp! Saves running 17' 0f rcas to head unit! I mean you can always buy a rca distribution block. Which with a distribution block you can run either 4 sub amp or 2 4 channel amps!👍😁💯
Good evening I would like to have some details concerning the setting of the subwoofer I made the same settings as you with the 40 Hz and the multimeter volume at 40 out of 50 my amp is a 1 ohm HD3000 taramps and my subwoofer is a 600 wrms 4 ohm hifonics parontre when I plug in the taramps box it even clips it will you red with each stroke of the bass then what to do? trust the box supplied with? is it dangerous to pass the clip? thank you for your reply
Ok let me make sure I have your info correct 1st. You have a 600rms sub dual 4ohm wired in parallel? To the amp to make it 2ohms? You have the HD 3000 1ohm. And @ 2ohm's that amp little over 2000rms. Which would be way to much for your 600 rms sub. Like I say in the video. Go by the lowest rms 1st! Set it by the 600 × 2ohm =1200 now square root of 1200 is 34.64 volts. Now after you get that. Plug your subs back in and set your low pass and high pass where you want it. Go play a song you know that doesn't clip. Turn it up till you hear distortion. If it isn't loud enough. Then turn the gain down a little to make it louder. But for more loud bass you can turn it up some. But you risk clipping because that sub is only rated 600 rms. Some subs are under rated and can do more. You just have to know your subs limit. The other thing you can do is think about getting a xfl or something like that. They are 1500 rms and can take the 3k well. I mean atleast 2000 rms of it. Hope this helps👍😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 my subwoofer is 600 wrms in double coils of 2 ohms I cable it in 4 ohms my question is why when I put it at 48.98 as you indicate ✓600x4 ohms = 48.98 why when I listen to musics it clips while the setting is good I do not understand for it even turns red but not flashing fixed
You don't do 600× 4ohm. Cause if you wire it down to parallel it would be 1 ohm. If its a dual 2 ohm. So 600 ×1 =600= square root 24.49 volts. I thought you had dual 4 ohm sub. But if its dual 2ohm. Then at parallel it would be 24.49 volts
hello it is a 2 ohm double coil that I have to connect in series so that it is in 4 ohms so it is 48.98 volts but I am surprised that it clips after it is true that once adjusted I adjust the 'equalizer and I add the loudness.
Usually just turn everything off let it sit. Should come back on. If not check your subs. One could be blowed. If subs ok. Then check all the wires. Make sure none are burnt. If everything checks out. Then email Taramps and tell them what you have going on. They will probably have you send it to them to fix👍😁💯
That's the only thing I do differently. Leave everything set the way you like it to sound. EQ, loudness, any dynamic bass enhancers....if you have a bass knob turn it to max output, get it all sounding like you want with the sub disconnected. Then do this procedure and adjust gain up until it clips, then back off a touch. If you do it with EQ flat and everything turned off and bass knob turned down the moment you turn anything up at all you're straight into clipping. A flat eq sounds like trash, you gotta tune it to where it sounds good. I use this guy's method with a scope so I'm not guessing if the output is clipping or not. You can see it. That's the other problem doing it with a multimeter like this. It gives you correct power but not clean power. ua-cam.com/video/hQOPP-l3AMo/v-deo.html
Look your amplifier has built in eq which is low pass and high pass. You can't set eq on your head unit and your amp. It has to be 1or the other or your clipping! Do some more research. Even though your scoop might say different. Your still clipping trust me. Your coils will burn🔥
@@bassjunkie2020 You're not listening or comprehending. A low pass or high pass filter is not an EQ. I suggest you do some more research. Nobody listens to their music with a flat eq. It sounds like shit. If you set your amp at maximum output BEFORE making any sound adjustments on the head unit you will be straight clipping the moment you run anything above a flat eq. So you should tune your system with your eq first. Then with an oscilloscope check what volume your head unit clips at with the settings you want set. Then tune amp gain with oscilloscope until it clips and back off a touch. This way no matter how far you turn it up, you will not clip. I tune every level of mine with an oscilloscope and can guarantee using the method I linked to, and a oscope, you can't clip. Period.
I noticed you had the low pass turned up when you were setting the gain I had everything on zero on the amp played 40 Hertz test tone and then slowly turned up the gain until the clip light almost came on so I don't know which way is Right which way is Right....... And you put everything flat on the deck when you're setting the game which I do too but then when I put my EQ on a good setting after it's all set now it's clipping cuz I don't want to listen to flat music I turn the EQ up on the deck and now it's clipping
Yeah I know but ppl freak out when I tell them that. They say ones for output other is input. But I talked to Taramps in Brazil yrs ago. And they told me you could still hook up both 🙈
@@bassjunkie2020 yeah people dont understand how input and output are, all they do is bridge the output to the input so you can get the rca signal its just the exact as using a Y adapter
Awesome video, I have a question I was thinking about getting a 4k amp an run it at 2ohm load. My 2 subs I currently have can handle 700w rms each so 1400w. If my 4k amp is 2400w at 2ohm load could it be set to jus deliver 1400w? Reason is cuse I know I'm gonna eventually put 4 subs that will need the 4k amp. But for now with the 2 subs I have now they only can handle 700w each. Thanks alot
Doing this will most likely hurt a lot of peoples feelings. They’ll set it like this to their target voltage, listen to it, and then end up turning it back up because they decided it’s not loud enough. Just speaking from experience.
54.7 is 3k and I still did 3k. The sub takes about 2500 with no problems. Just have to watch the volume and use your bassknob plus watch clip light. You can set the amo to 1500 using the formula. Good subs usually do more than rated. My Sundown Xv2 15's are only rated 1500 and I give them 3k apiece. I've had them taking a 8k for longtime. Just have to listen and play with adjustments to fine tune your system. Everyone is different. Due to different cabin space and enclosure size
..and if you REALLY wanna set an EQ on your deck, do it *before* you set gains on the amp; however this really requires the use of an oscilloscope to verify sine wave is clean. I'd recommend one of the newer Rockford Fosgate amps. I have a Punch P600X4 and what's cool is it has built in gain adjustment, what's cooler is it has an input clip light!
My car came with double din. I don't want a touch screen radio. I do car audio. I need just radio. I watch tv at home. Pioneer does exactly what I need it to. You don't need a fancy radio to sound good. A decent one yes. But a good class ab 4 channel mp and good sub amp. With the right subs on a good electrical. Is all you need. ✌
This might be old video. I used to have a cheap dual head unit. I can't see what video your comment is from. I'm in UA-cam studio on my phone and its real limited. But if it has blue screen. It's a dual. My pioneer has red screen
Yes and no. I mean they are rated 1500. But Sundown under rates there subs. So if I got a 6k. There wouldn't be any headroom. Why I use 8k. With box rise. The subs only see 5846 rms. So if I had 6o they would probably only see 3k
@Hammerback0 Yes but its the component speakers I was worried about. The only way to avoid them from going crazy is to disconnect the head unit and power/ground it while you set the gain for the subs. Unless you run amplified components then yea you can just disconnect them at the midrange amp.
I can tell from the video alone your very knowledgeable in car audio and everything else for that matter...quick question...do you have any car audio laying around that you don't use that you could sell for cheap?....I have very little money as of now due to my living situation but I can always hustle something up. .I just want to BANG lol...thanks in advance and keep up the good work with the vids
@@bassjunkie2020 2 ohms: 175 watts RMS x 4 Chan. I have the option to pair my loudspeakers 2ohms or 8ohms final load. Can I wire it 2ohms bridged mode even if its not recommended? How ti set the gains in this case? Thanks for you help
I would do the 8ohms if your amp doesn't support 2ohm's. And I need the 8 ohm rating of your amp to get the right voltage. Personally I'd consider buying a 4 channel that supports 2ohm. Mine does and a great amp. Here is link to my 4 channel www.amazon.com/dp/B081718W3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_1SKR1RF9X7GFGVTD4E23?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Nice video. I have 4 1000 watts subs and 2 smart3’s . My subs are wired @ 1 ohm per pair. They are 4 ohm DVC’s . What’s my target voltage per amp also would this method be like gain matching?
For each Smart 3. To get 1000rms per sub. Set each Smart 3 @ 44.72 volts @ 1ohm. That will give you 2000rms per amplifier. 2000 rms ÷ 2 subs = 1000 rms per sub👍😁💯
Thank you for the video. Let me run this by you to make sure I am correct. My sub is 500RMS my amp can put out 600rms at 4 ohms. I would like to keep at 4 ohms. Okay so I need to do 600 x 4 = 2400 and the square root of that is 48.9. So use my multi meter to set it to that number and I should be getting 600rms or whatever the amp is rated for at that setting correct? Thank you Hard to wrap my head around it because 1000 rms is 31 and it’s more watts
You made a video later raising the voltage to around 75v and it woke your sub up. A good sub can take way more than rated power. This is only good for SQ maybe?. I have 2 smart bass 3ks powering 2 Avatar stu 12s. Gain is matched at 75v on both amps. If i set mine at 54v it wouldn't be loud at all. I dont clip either.
What do you mean? I always hook up the multimeter! I sometimes show the results. But if you go through my video's. You will see it hooked up. Thanks for watching 😉💯👍💨💨💨⚡️
@@bassjunkie2020 I must have not seen the part when you plugged in the wires to the amp. At first I was confused because I saw red wires on the sub, so I wasn’t sure what was going on. But I got it now. Thank you
@@bassjunkie2020 thank you I actually have never done this before I feel so stupid I pulled my ported two 10”s out my trunk and fabricating a box into my rear deck for three 8. This is the method I wanna use to set the game for my amp to make sure I’m pushing the full capacity or close to it of my amplifier without clipping and distorting anything. I know three subwoofers sounds more like SPL but I’m looking for SQ in a sealed enclosure
Great video dude, I started to watch 6 others but none of them explained this as simply as yours. I have the smart 3 as well, did not see this video in time and burned a coil in a Resilient Sounds Platinum 12D1,🤦♂️ had it wired to 2ohm. And about 3/4 gain. as you know that's a bit over 2krms for the subs ratings. Probably close to 2700rms.. So I'm waiting for my recone and will set gain correctly this time.. any info on the clip meter wiring? My wires got pulled off the board. Dont know what goes where
I did same thing with a clip monitor. And not sure how they go. I'll look at one in my car that works after work tomorrow. Just leave me another comment tomorrow so I don't forget. And I'm glad I could help👍👊😎💯
Finally! Someone with a thorough walkthrough on properly tuning the gains via multi meter and how to calculate the output...Big Thanks My Guy!!! 💪🏾💪🏾
Your welcome!👍👊😎💯
@titoham-DCXLs exactly! This is just for getting your amp safe! But can get more out of it the more you learn
@titoham-DCXLs better safe than sorry bro
Putting the fade all the way to the rear is very smart, great tip, thanks!
Bad ass I never thought my 18s took more and I had to buy a new amp , thanks my man you are genius.
Thank you 👊😎💯💨💨💨
Great Video and thank you for making it my friend. 🙏 Question for you if I may. Once you reconnect the subs to the amp will the voltage change? I heard someone in another video mention something about rail voltage with and without load in an amplifier will be different. Appreciate your time and input. 🙏
I never had a problem doing it this way but possible they could be right 👍
What size of power wire you use for de smart 3... Cause i running a 1100rms sub dvc 4homs and it cliping
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I've had my Taramps 3k for about 6months and it definitely gives you it's rated watts and then some. Good video man
Thank you! And Taramps has been my goto for real power!!!💪💪💪👍👊😎💯
Just got my first Taramps, an HD3000 1-ohm.
I have it on a couple of Orion 10” from the mid 90s (2-ohm mono total) and this shows me how to intelligently set it lower to not cook those guys.
It’s scary how much power this amp can put out, I’m very impressed!
I had 2 Taramps hds! They are powerful!👍👊💯
Im planning to get a xfl 12 at 1ohm,im between a taramps md 1800.1 and a skar rp 1500.1 not surr wich one ti pick!!
Get the Taramps. You will have more power. 👍😉💯
@@bassjunkie2020 I BOUGHT THE XR AMERICAN BASS 12 AND FEEL LIKE THE 1500.1 AMP IS TOO MUCH FOR THIS SUB,THINKING ON UPGRADING TO XFL 12 WIRING TO 1OHM
Yeah the xfls are better. They can take a lot more power👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 what about between xfls vs vxf??
@@JULIANysuHOHNER They are close. But the vfx is probably better from what I've seen. But I've only owned the xfls. And only skar subs I owned were the ddx . But have got some killer Demo's from vfx's. But both are good 👍
I hpf same as subsonic ? I have a 36hz box and I put my subsonic around 27hz
Yeah it's pretty much the same thing so you're doing the right thing👍
Just hooked up my car with help of your video. Thanks taramp bass 3k with a skar zvx 3000
Awesome! Glad I could help! And sounds like you on your way to flexin everything in your ride! 👍😎💯💨💨💨💨
Just noticed you was In A saturn ion just had my solobaric 15 in it that rattle it like hell couldn't believe it fit like it did when 1st got it and installed it in a 93 Cavalier then 91 grand prix after that but 3rdly that ion was weighed down then timing went replaces by 2000 durango suvs bring more options I don't think I'll have another sedan build for while just so limited and no space no doubt had heads turning in that 03 ion downtown Seattle and places😂😂
What if im clipping at a voltage lower than max rated rms ,lights are dimming too could low voltage be the cause i did a big 3 and it helped a little allowing me to crank the volume up a bit more before clipping but my 3k watt amp is clipping tuned low using ohms law at about 1250 watts
You probably need a bigger alternator or add more batteries
@titoham-DCXLs running a optima yellow top big 3 and 5 farad cap on a md3000 now and its alot better
Get bigger alt
Hey i need help with my setup im having trouble but i got a 3700 watt amp and 2 15s dvc 1300 rms each how do i calculate this do i add the 1300 to male 2600 and calculate based off that ? How ould go about adjusting the gain for that ? I only have a multi meter
What ohm are you wiring to the amp?
@@bassjunkie2020 1 ohm
@JUANMARTINEZ-dq4df Set voltage at 50.9 volts on gain will equal 2600 rms
Thank you so much, i kept clipping my duel skars wired to 0.5 ohm. Did everything you showed, no more clipping, and it gets louder
No problem! And thank you for your support 👊😎💯💨💨💨
My sub is 900rms my amp is 1000rms
So I would do 900 x 1ohm (sub wired down to) then square root of 900 which is 30 volts and that is what I’d set it to?
Yes sir 👍😎💯
Quick question if I have a one sub 2 ohms connect to the amp which rms rating should I go with the sub has 1200 rms and the amp has 650x1 @2ohms
I always go with the lowest. That way you don't blow the amp or sub. In your case. Looks like the amp is lower. So do the 650
@@bassjunkie2020 oks so idk what I did wrong but I feel like the sound of the speakers inside are low and the sub is playing so I hook up everything but need to tune the amp and so everything was dial down except the low pass and then I proceed to put the volume 75 percent and play a test hertz of 50 and then adjusted the gain so if there’s anything wrong that I did I feel like it was louder before the sub came into play
You might need a bigger amp to push your subs
This procedure is a very much sought after topic with amplifiers being as big and bad as they are today. It's easy to get an amplifier that does way too much for your subs and you need to turn down that amp so you don't burn out a voice coil.
When I plug in my leads from my multimeter, I get no voltage from my speaker terminals to tune my subs??
You have to have your head unit turned up too as loud as it goes without Distortion and play a 40 Hertz or 50 hertz test tone when you set the gain
My speaker terminal on my Taramps are not cranking out any volts. It just reading 00.0
@@LinoFiT check the ground
Or maybe your rcas are bad.
I have 2 kicker L7 12inch q class 2 ohm on a taramps 1800.1 d 1 ohm should I wire them down to 1 ohm or should I just get the 2 ohm version of the 1800 watt taramps for the best performance out of them? Or should I get a bigger taramps 2ohm amp like the 2k or 3k version and just keep it down cause the kivkers are 900rms I believe... so that's why I figured the 1800 watt taramps would be perfect... but I just am not sure if the subs being a 2 ohm sub would be better to be blpowered by a 2 ohm amp or if it would be better to just wire them down to 1ohm.. please any help would be much appreciated 🙏
I'd wire them down to 1ohm and get a Taramps md 3k. And do set the gain at 1800 rms. If the subs do good. You can turn it up slowly until it is perfect. Just keep your eye on clip light. And listen to make sure it doesn't sound distorted 👍😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 ok perfect thanks man I really appreciate it..I have the clip light add on and rca bass knob also...now I just have to figure out how the heck I wire them down to 1 ohm... I have no clue how to do that lol
Just Google how to wire Subwoofers it will pull up wiring diagrams
@@bassjunkie2020 do I need to say anything specific or literally just how to wire subwoofers?
soundcertified.com/how-to-wire-dual-voice-coil-speaker-subwoofer-wiring-diagrams/
There is so much room for error in this method IMO. There are too many variables including impedance rise. That's why I've set my amps by ear for over 25 years. I've used this method a few times to try it and there was always performance left on the table that I could hear but on paper it doesn't equate. To each their own I suppose. You did explain the method well. Good video.
Thanks and I set mine by ear to but have used this method to know what it should be. But usually good amps are under rated so you can set them higher without clipping.😎💯
using that multimeter how can I find the final ohm to the amp of like 12 midrange speakers
Depends on how you wire them and what there ohm load is
@@bassjunkie2020 they all are single 8ohm I wired them parallel but I want to make sure what ohm the amp sees. Because I got them on a taramp md3000.1
Can I use this amp with 200amp alternator and the big 3 with a capacitor?
Yes just have a voltage regulator to monitor your voltage. Try to keep it above 12.6 or more. Work on getting a big battery bank. 👍👊😎💯
I get how to get the voltage my question is i have two 600watt rms subs at 2ohm..so do i just square root 1200 as 600x2 ..or is it 1200 per sub so id add 1200x2 for each sub and square root that..or 1 2 3 subs it does not matter?
Well if you have 2 subs both 600 rms then you will need 1200 rms to push them. So 1200 × 2 =2400 square root is 48.98 volts. Just make sure your amp does 1200 rms
@@bassjunkie2020 THANK YOU..YES IT DOES 1500!##not 1 video explaining that..i appreciate alot..its BASS TIME FOR ME👍👍
Your welcome
I've got to make an updated video that's an old video I plan on making the updated version soon of this video and explain a little more I've learned a lot since then
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks brother..UPDATE my nostrils are flapping NOW along with my rearview and side mirrors...APPRECIATE the response more then you know..WAKEY WAKEY neighbors😉👍
So I've got two dual 4's wired down to 1 on a 1200 RMS amp. The subs are 600 RMS a shot. So do I go by 1200 and go off that square root?
Yeah do the amp rms square root of 1200 = 34.64 voltage
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks man! I really appreciate your advice!🤝
I honestly have the same setup but with a hifonics 1200 amp and subs just sound really low had to tune the amp gain just a bit more
Is it better to do that formula with the rms wattage of the subwoofer or the amplifier??
I got with the weakest rms. So if your sub is 1000 rms but your amp puts out 1500 rms. I'd do the sub. But if your sub is 1500 rms and your amp only puts out 1000 rms. I'd go with the amp then. That way your not clipping either way👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 awesome really appreciate the quick response thanks 👍
Yeah I answer everyone if I'm not busy at work👍😁💯
Great video.
correction at 12:33 - that's *_0.5 octaves_* below the enclosure tuning for the hi-pass(subsonic) filter .. not 5 octaves.
so in your case if your port is tuned at 32hz you should set your hi-pass around @ 24hz.
Ok Thanks! I knew that but said it wrong. I wasn't the best at UA-cam back then I've got a lot better now. But thanks for pointing that out. So other's will know👍😎💯💨💨
@@bassjunkie2020 yeah i was pretty sure thats what you meant to say cause u set it to 30hz right after that
Yeah I've said things wrong a few times in some of my video's. But I'm sure most of you know what I meant lol👊😆💯
High pass filter is different on a class d full range amplifier I barely crank my High pass filter up on my 8k 2ohm taramps? I running 2xv3 sundown 12s YOU have to include impedance rise also so I'm only pushing about 6 to 7000 watts maybe? On those two subwoofers and another thing my enclosure is 4.50 cubic feet at 32hertz? So it can take more power? And the bass is tighter?
More power smaller box less power bigger box
If i have 2 subs , i need to calculate both of them or only one of them? Btw subs are on a stereo amp one sub per channel (2 channels). 40w*2 channels 4 ohm 45w rms subs 8inch.
Rms of both subs combined
Excellent video 😊. Maybe you could educate us on how to set lpf, hpf or isf on another video :)
Thank's! Yeah I need to make a updated video. Been awhile since I did the last one. And I've Learned a lot since then!👍😁💯
Will this also apply to midd/high amp???
Yes
Hey so i have a cadillac cts 07 and i used my factory head unit with a high low converter i have a Phoenix gold rx 1000w and 2 sundown lcs 12s d4 300 rms a piece so 600 rms combined. so how would i set my amp? I don’t know my head unit distortion either…
Go by the amp rating 1000 rms and do the math I provided in the video 👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 just wondering.. why wouldn’t i do the math based of off my my subs combined rms? just want to know more about the car audio game
Because your total subs rms is more than the amp puts out.
Sir, again, thank you. I just put a 320amp alt in my jeep patriot, along with the 2/0G big 3 upgrade. Stock battery. 1 Run of 0G to the back. Single 15. 2ohm dvc. 1500.1 amp @ 1ohm... 3.00 cubic slotted box. Gonna go set her right now. Later BASSHEAD
Sounds like your all set. Plenty of power💪💪💪😎👍💯
If I calculate for subs it comes out to 48.7 but if I calculate for my amp it comes out to 44.7 were would u set amp?? My subs are 2400rms and amp is 2000rms ..
Go by amp
@@bassjunkie2020 ok thanks man,
So i need to buy a rca y splitter to use this amp
You didn't have to. You can just leave the one unplugged. And tape the connector. But I found out later on that you can plug it in like normal. A rep from Brazil Taramps. Told me that. And I did and everything worked fine. But if your worried about it. Just plug one up to input. The 2nd is just to send signal to a 2nd amp. Because you can strap full range amos. But you can chain them and gain match. Hope this helps. Also goto Taramps web page and there is contact info at bottom of page. Email them and ask them about it. That's what I did! They have sent me new clip monitors over 50 decals and more! Great company 👍😎💯💨💨💨💨
nice video how i set the gain on my amp i have a 2500 watt rms sub and a 3500 watt amp rms on one ohm is a 2x2 ohm sub and have 2500 watt rms how i set that verry thanks i hope too hear
For 2500 rms voltage should be @ 50
thanks you verry much for it @@bassjunkie2020
Thanks bro, just got my taramps today. Can't wait to set it up😁👍🏾
Hell yeah! Taramps got so much power in small footprint!💪💪💪😎💯👍
You inspired me to get one brother man. Keep up the great videos😁👍🏾
@@kevinwilliams2999 Thanks👊👍😎💯
How are you powering you setup. I have a smart3 on 2 d4 12s and it clipping
Back then I had 2 batteries. Which the smart 3 would go into protect a lot of it dropped below 11. I since solved that problem. I now run a Taramps md 8k. I have a JS 250 amp alternator big 4 all 0g welding cable and 40 ah limitless lithium battery
So I have 2 dvc 4ohm subs 800rms each wired to 1ohm paired with 1500rms amp
How do find out the square root of it?thanks
38.72 volts @ 1 ohm is what you should set your gain with multimeter for 1500 rms👍👊😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks appreciate the quick reply and you Have a Merry Christmas and be safe out there!!!
@@eacalways Merry Christmas to you to and Thank you👍👊😎💯
I think I have an issue then cause my inline converter is connected to my rear speaker
I have 2 skar evl 12 4 ohm with the Taramp smart 3k what voltage should I have please!!!
And o yea speakers or ran 1 ohm
54.7 should be your voltage. 2 dual 4ohm subs run in parallel to amp at 1ohm. 3000 rms × 1ohm = 3000. Square root of 3000 is 54.7 😉👍
The speakers are 1250 rms a peace
How did you come up with 3000
@@dekeviusedwards7766 the amp is 3k So for 2 subs 3k is good. You always want little more power than rated for subs. That way you have headroom👍
I have a rca spl cartel bass knob will I still be able to use it seeing
That it has two rcas?
What do you mean 2 rcas? Like 2 inputs and 2 outputs?
Yes
I was told to use a Y splitter
Not sure you have to if your only running 1 amp. But if you running 2 then yeah Y splinters. But I control both amps from 1 NVX bass knob. I used the signal out on the Smart 3 to the audio Legion 1600 . So I can cut signal from both amps. The audio Legion has its own bass knob also. So I got it hooked up as well. That way I can turn it off and just run the smart 3. For my 4 channel amp no bass knob. But I have them hooked up using a line out convertor. I have the converter hooked behind my head unit. I tapped into the speakers output wires coming from my head unit. Cause my head unit only has 2 RCA's out puts that are set for subs. So the line out convertor works like a charm. 👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 yall just fixed a thought i was having earlier..i was thinking man thats shitty no bass knob like my sundown amp,then i read this i remembered they have bass knobs that have rca inputs and outputs and u use the potentiometer to control to rca voltage from the head unit 🤷🏻♂️
I have a question would this be the same setup for 0.5 ohm because I have a single skar zvxV2 15 dual 1ohm so that's making it 0.5 ohm to the amp and the speaker also puts out 1500 rms but could handle more than what's it rated. By the way I have the same amp taramps 3k smart bass really hope I could get an answer
Sure just do the math and find square root for voltage. I had mine set at 57.4 volts
Great Video, question, what setting is your multimeter on? Thanks in advance
Ac voltage. Dc converts to Ac from amp.👍😎💯
What did u set ur multimeter on too do it
Ac voltage
Thanks for the breakdown very helpful keep up the good videos
Your welcome 👍😉💯
So I have an issue I can't even get close to what I need to get any bass and my clip light comes on with almost no gain my other amp hit harder and was only a 1k this is the md3000.1 1 ohms I'm wired to 1 and should be 3x louder but it's not what's the issue
How much electrical? Low voltage can cause amps to clip. What is your voltage when it clips?
@@bassjunkie2020 14.1-14.3 I have big 3 300amp alt & 150ah of AGM
Maybe bassknob not getting good signal. Or rcas are bad. Seems like loss of signal or something
@@bassjunkie2020 that's what I was thinking but I'm getting 1.3 v from each RCA from the back of my HU haven't tested output signal from the EQ I have the Rockville r7 EQ and I don't have a bass knob yet I'm about to get one but I'll have to re tune the amp but I got 4 8's rated at 1000 wrms each and my volt was set to 54.1 and that should put me at 3k watts but it only gets really loud at clipping point
@@bassjunkie2020 stripped my panels and rerouting my RCA's down the center of my truck to see if it's signal distortion from RCA and power/ speakers running down the same side hopefully it fixes it and I can get more clean single to boost power
Need help. I got 2 12s 750 rms and taramp bass 1200. Need help tuning amp
What are you wiring them to? 1ohm 2ohm's? What are the subs dual 4ohms? 2ohm's? Need more info to help
1 ohm subs 4ohm
Get a multimeter set your voltage to 34.64 volts. That's 1200 rms total. 600 per sub. Most your amp will do.
Running a 1200.1 taramp with 2 evls 2 ohm wired to 1ohm, and certain songs that hit hard makes the subs smell bad, is the gain to high ?
Smell is clipping which could be from a lot of things. Like low voltage, gain to high ect
@@bassjunkie2020 okay I’m running 4 gauge but am upgrading to 0 gauge tomorrow would that help ? Already running a second battery
Bigger wire helps I need to get a voltmeter and put it in the dash if you don't have one that way you can monitor your voltage
I wonder if any of these 1000rms and above amps have been tested on a dyno?
Just curious.
Thanks
Yes Big D did dynos on them
Yes I know the amp he is using has been on dynoed UA-cam. And it tested higher then 3000 at 1ohm. And is the same amp I use to have. However it couldn't handle the 1500 sundown
I switched from it myself
Hi hope you can help me I have a max output subs at 1200w but it’s 2ohm sub and I have 4 channel amp is kenwood kac x4d max output 1200w but I bridge it to get max output ...at bridge is 300w so should I use the bridge output ?.. or should I just use the subs rating ?.? Plz plz help just a beginner...
Depends if you plan to bridge it or run it regular. Use what ever rating you wire it to. Sorry just seen your comment
Okey,incase I want to know how much RMS am I pushing, how would I calculate that
Need more info? Sub rms amplifier rms and what is the sub wired down to?👍😎
Why my amp can’t go over 32 volts!? It’s Boss be2500.1
Probably as much as it puts out
Do you have loud and stuff on or leave it off
No I always keep all that turned off
Do you need a extra battery with the smart 3k
I would atleast have 1 good agm or a couple good regular ones. Lithium is the way to go. Get like a 25 ah lithium and you will be solid 👍💯
That 1500 watts is its RMS or PEAK rating?
Well the RMS of your amp is the peak rating. But I was only had 1 sub at that time. And the sub was rated at 1500, The amp was rated 3000. Now if I had 2 1500 RMS subs. I could have set it at 3000.😎💯
I got a question i have a md 1800.1 taramp how do i set the lpf on it my gain is it 40
Turn it down to 80 or low as it goes. 60 is optimal. But most Taramps only go down to 80
@@bassjunkie2020 thank you
@@bassjunkie2020 im messing with a 8 inch rn i put it +2+ n -2- its reading 1.4 on the ohms its a sound ordnance 80watts 160 peak can i run it like that or no?
Yeah it sounds about right
Orale gracias
I have two subs at 1800rms dvc 2 ohms and I'll be running two amps strapped to run them would I add 1800 to get 3600 and then times it by 2ohms? It'd be 7200 total then squared 84. 85 volts is that kinda high
What's the rms of the amp your hooking them to?
@@bassjunkie2020 1944 @ 1ohm but if I'm running two amps strapped it'd be 2 ohms
I'm not sure. I think I know the answer. But I don't want to tell you wrong. Here's link to new Facebook page and group I made. A lot of bassheads in the group already. You can join and ask same questions maybe add some pictures to so we can see. It's why I made the group. It's for you guy's!👊👍💯
facebook.com/BassJunkies-108584201276758/
What is best for a Subwoofer 80hz or 100hz?
and which is strong bass 80hz or 100hz?
60 hz 80 and 100 to high for subs
@@bassjunkie2020 In my Sony amp minimum is 50hz can i set to 50hz?
Id set it at 60
@@bassjunkie2020 Ok thanks bro 👍😉
that's exactly how I did my amps, it works perfect.
Thanks I appreciate it I got to make an updated video that one's old I learned a lot since then but it still is good information
Do you set the voltage for highs amp the same way running a hd8k 2ohm at 2ohm also with what test tone
Yes
I just did the same process and when I play the test tones the amp shows that is clipping when I raise the gain and the meter shows me all kinds of numbers up an down. Any reason fo this?
Not sure why what that is. Do you have good electrical
Yes I have good electrical. What I figured out is that I had the head unit all the way up and also the loudness so there was a lot of distortion. I set the head unit to 35 and took loudness out and then was able to set the correct gain. I’m running a Skar EVL-D2 1250rms. I did the calculation and set the gain to 50 on the Taramps. System is sounding great. Thanks to your video is was simple to do. Keep up the good work 👍
Yeah I never turn the loud on. I have everything set flat on my head unit
Do you do the total rmd for subs ran? In this case it was 1...but I have 3 subs with 500 rms each...so my total is the same as yours correct?
3 subs at 500 rms would be 1500 total
What about the voltage out outs from the radio ??
2 volts is what my headunit puts out
I have the same amp, have set it with multi meter and clip indicator but when I turn it up the amp just goes into protect mode. The clip light does not flash at all just goes straight to protect
Sounds like your ground isn't getting good connection some where
@@bassjunkie2020 it's running from the negative post on my battery
Probably need to do the big 3
HELP PLEASE!
MY amp is rated at 800@1ohm(pioneer 8601). My subs are 200watts nominal each(pioneer TS-W253R) and I have 3 subs. So what should I be reading on my multi-meter when setting the gain for these?
Set voltage at 28.28 with multimeter. That is 800 rms at 1ohm 24.49 voltage if you go by combined subs ratings which is 600 rms
Do u do same thing for mids and highs using a different test tone??
You can. Just use higher frequency. Your speakers should have there frequency range on the internet
Hi thanks for the informative video what frequency would you suggest for setting the if it was only for the speakers
Thank you! And I re word your question. Im not sure what your asking? 👍💯
@@bassjunkie2020 sorry for that, what test tone frequency can I use to set up my speakers
40hz👍
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks for your reply
Oh no problem! I always answer you guys. If I have the time👊😎💯
Yo g I know this a late video but how did you set your lpf and hpf on this amp?
I set low pass all the way off or I think that one went down to 80. High pass off or all the way down.
very nice video I have the same Amps I would like to set 1,000 watts do I need another battery someone told me these amps need current lots of it. Thank you.
Yes need good electrical always. But thank you for your support 👍😁💯💨💨
Where do you set the subwoofer level from the double din
I always set it 0 That way I can use the amps lpf and hpf. But you can turn it up some if your not getting the right voltage to your amp
@@bassjunkie2020 ok thanks
Have another question about my md 8k. I have it set with multimeter. But when i turn up the sub a bit. It goes into protect mode. If i turn it down it doesnt. What could be fhe problem or should i look into replacement?
Try setting it with clip light. Turn your head unit up to volume you like to listen that usually doesn't distort. Then slowly turn the gain up till you see clip light come on. Now back the gain up a little. You should be good. If not check your grounds. Or might need better electrical
I believe i found the problem. My amp is moving much more when i turn it up. Maybe causing vibration issues. Have it bolted to the back of my seat. Will have to look into moving it. Sure appreciate the help.
If I set my gain with my head unit at 25 does that mean if I go over 25 it’s distortion ?
Most likely. I'd set it with the head unit up to the level you plan on listening to it
The md 5k do the subs has to be connected to set the gain or can i do the wxact sqme with the volt meter
You should disconnect the subs. Hook voltage meter in the place. Then play a 40 hz tone with your head unit and max lvl before distortion. Then turn multimeter up till you reach voltage you desire 👍👊😎💯
This is apparently not the way to set the Amp Gain. Big D and Sam Vernard from Barevids have done a thorough video on this. And Taramps even say that, the load has to be connected whilst you set the gain.
As it has an Artificial Rail Cap, when the load is connected as opposed to the way BassJunkie is doing it in the video.
Normally you would set it without the load. But in this instance for these amps, especially the Smart 3K you will have to get the load connected.
Now the Question is, how would you do that, with Subwoofers, which are rated below 3k wrms?
The answer, take it to a pro, or do the formula and get your value, play your test tone, 40hz -5db. And turn the gain up whilst your subwoofers are connected until you reach the desired voltage.
I dont want to step on your toes man, as i watch your content alot. But with this Smart 3K, the load must be connected whilst you adjust the gain.
Not sure that is correct. Because ive had 9 Taramps amplifiers and set them like i did in video. Never had problem. Long as you set voltage to the number you come up with. Then you will be fine. I don't think it's very smart to have subs hooked up running continuous test tone through your subs. Doesn't sound like a good idea.
@@bassjunkie2020 this is the video i am referring to. JL and other manufacturers recommend to have no speakers or load connected. But Taramps do.
ua-cam.com/video/DxMGPhNASl4/v-deo.html
Hey I’m new to the smart amps but I just got a smart 3 from a guy he had the left and right rca jacks plugged into the input and output on the amp could that cause any damage to the amp?
No You can use both rcas as input. But if you have 2 sub amps you can get a Y - Splitter to hook 2 amps! Nice feature! In that case use the top rca for your main then use out put rca for 2nd sub amp! Saves running 17' 0f rcas to head unit! I mean you can always buy a rca distribution block. Which with a distribution block you can run either 4 sub amp or 2 4 channel amps!👍😁💯
@@bassjunkie2020 thanks for the info 🤝😎
Your welcome 😁👍💯
Good evening I would like to have some details concerning the setting of the subwoofer I made the same settings as you with the 40 Hz and the multimeter volume at 40 out of 50 my amp is a 1 ohm HD3000 taramps and my subwoofer is a 600 wrms 4 ohm hifonics parontre when I plug in the taramps box it even clips it will you red with each stroke of the bass then what to do? trust the box supplied with? is it dangerous to pass the clip? thank you for your reply
what is your opinion?
Ok let me make sure I have your info correct 1st. You have a 600rms sub dual 4ohm wired in parallel? To the amp to make it 2ohms? You have the HD 3000 1ohm. And @ 2ohm's that amp little over 2000rms. Which would be way to much for your 600 rms sub. Like I say in the video. Go by the lowest rms 1st! Set it by the 600 × 2ohm =1200 now square root of 1200 is 34.64 volts. Now after you get that. Plug your subs back in and set your low pass and high pass where you want it. Go play a song you know that doesn't clip. Turn it up till you hear distortion. If it isn't loud enough. Then turn the gain down a little to make it louder. But for more loud bass you can turn it up some. But you risk clipping because that sub is only rated 600 rms. Some subs are under rated and can do more. You just have to know your subs limit. The other thing you can do is think about getting a xfl or something like that. They are 1500 rms and can take the 3k well. I mean atleast 2000 rms of it. Hope this helps👍😎💯
@@bassjunkie2020 my subwoofer is 600 wrms in double coils of 2 ohms I cable it in 4 ohms my question is why when I put it at 48.98 as you indicate ✓600x4 ohms = 48.98 why when I listen to musics it clips while the setting is good I do not understand for it even turns red but not flashing fixed
You don't do 600× 4ohm. Cause if you wire it down to parallel it would be 1 ohm. If its a dual 2 ohm. So 600 ×1 =600= square root 24.49 volts. I thought you had dual 4 ohm sub. But if its dual 2ohm. Then at parallel it would be 24.49 volts
hello it is a 2 ohm double coil that I have to connect in series so that it is in 4 ohms so it is 48.98 volts but I am surprised that it clips after it is true that once adjusted I adjust the 'equalizer and I add the loudness.
Does anybody know how to take taramps out of protection mode
Usually just turn everything off let it sit. Should come back on. If not check your subs. One could be blowed. If subs ok. Then check all the wires. Make sure none are burnt. If everything checks out. Then email Taramps and tell them what you have going on. They will probably have you send it to them to fix👍😁💯
Can you adjust bass,mid,and treble on headunit after tuning the amp?
You can. But I don't. I recommend everything flat. Only thing I adjust from the head unit is the frequency cut off rate. 👍💯
That's the only thing I do differently. Leave everything set the way you like it to sound. EQ, loudness, any dynamic bass enhancers....if you have a bass knob turn it to max output, get it all sounding like you want with the sub disconnected. Then do this procedure and adjust gain up until it clips, then back off a touch. If you do it with EQ flat and everything turned off and bass knob turned down the moment you turn anything up at all you're straight into clipping. A flat eq sounds like trash, you gotta tune it to where it sounds good.
I use this guy's method with a scope so I'm not guessing if the output is clipping or not. You can see it. That's the other problem doing it with a multimeter like this. It gives you correct power but not clean power.
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Look your amplifier has built in eq which is low pass and high pass. You can't set eq on your head unit and your amp. It has to be 1or the other or your clipping! Do some more research. Even though your scoop might say different. Your still clipping trust me. Your coils will burn🔥
@@bassjunkie2020 You're not listening or comprehending. A low pass or high pass filter is not an EQ. I suggest you do some more research. Nobody listens to their music with a flat eq. It sounds like shit. If you set your amp at maximum output BEFORE making any sound adjustments on the head unit you will be straight clipping the moment you run anything above a flat eq. So you should tune your system with your eq first. Then with an oscilloscope check what volume your head unit clips at with the settings you want set. Then tune amp gain with oscilloscope until it clips and back off a touch. This way no matter how far you turn it up, you will not clip. I tune every level of mine with an oscilloscope and can guarantee using the method I linked to, and a oscope, you can't clip. Period.
I noticed you had the low pass turned up when you were setting the gain I had everything on zero on the amp played 40 Hertz test tone and then slowly turned up the gain until the clip light almost came on so I don't know which way is Right which way is Right....... And you put everything flat on the deck when you're setting the game which I do too but then when I put my EQ on a good setting after it's all set now it's clipping cuz I don't want to listen to flat music I turn the EQ up on the deck and now it's clipping
Get a aftermarket equalizer or dsp. Then you should be ok
Smart 3 input and output act as both input thats why its red and white cuz u can hook up your input to both rca's
Yeah I know but ppl freak out when I tell them that. They say ones for output other is input. But I talked to Taramps in Brazil yrs ago. And they told me you could still hook up both 🙈
@@bassjunkie2020 yeah people dont understand how input and output are, all they do is bridge the output to the input so you can get the rca signal its just the exact as using a Y adapter
@@madgunzgaming exactly best way to explain it 👊
Should you set it to around 53.8 just to be safe? Of would it sound bad
You would have less power but probably sound ok. But I'm sure you want to flex. So get it close as you can
Should your car be running while tuning?
Yes. Unless you got good enough electrical so as not to drop and clip it. Then I recommend running it👍😁💯
How can you tell when your radio start distortion
You can hear it
@@bassjunkie2020 i did the math but not sure if i was correct, sundown x12 got 38.7
Sounds about right! Hit me up later tonight. Im at work😁👍💯
Awesome video, I have a question I was thinking about getting a 4k amp an run it at 2ohm load. My 2 subs I currently have can handle 700w rms each so 1400w. If my 4k amp is 2400w at 2ohm load could it be set to jus deliver 1400w? Reason is cuse I know I'm gonna eventually put 4 subs that will need the 4k amp. But for now with the 2 subs I have now they only can handle 700w each. Thanks alot
Yes use the formula I described. I think your voltage would need to be 34.4 to be 1400 at 2ohms
Doing this will most likely hurt a lot of peoples feelings. They’ll set it like this to their target voltage, listen to it, and then end up turning it back up because they decided it’s not loud enough. Just speaking from experience.
Most of the time when people turn it down to a clean level they end up turning it back up until it’s loud again
Yeah ppl do that. But after they burn enough amps subs and keep spending money. They will either quit or start monitoring their voltage
@maccook5230 I'm that guy lol..my voltage is 63.2 but I'm at 74v output voltage
Lol it's all good 😊
@bassjunkie2020 thanks! Not the best amp ever its a nemesis NA-6KM monoblock..On a trinity audio M series 18..So far so good
Thought 55 volts was to get 3k from the amp? Didn't you want to go half that seeing your sub is 1500 RMS?
54.7 is 3k and I still did 3k. The sub takes about 2500 with no problems. Just have to watch the volume and use your bassknob plus watch clip light. You can set the amo to 1500 using the formula. Good subs usually do more than rated. My Sundown Xv2 15's are only rated 1500 and I give them 3k apiece. I've had them taking a 8k for longtime. Just have to listen and play with adjustments to fine tune your system. Everyone is different. Due to different cabin space and enclosure size
..and if you REALLY wanna set an EQ on your deck, do it *before* you set gains on the amp; however this really requires the use of an oscilloscope to verify sine wave is clean.
I'd recommend one of the newer Rockford Fosgate amps. I have a Punch P600X4 and what's cool is it has built in gain adjustment, what's cooler is it has an input clip light!
Nice! I've always liked Rockford Fosgate👍😁💯
Great video!.. but question ❓ why do you have quality amp an speakersub with a cheap ass radio?
Pioneer is good radio. I love it👍💯
🙄ok 👌🏽
My car came with double din. I don't want a touch screen radio. I do car audio. I need just radio. I watch tv at home. Pioneer does exactly what I need it to. You don't need a fancy radio to sound good. A decent one yes. But a good class ab 4 channel mp and good sub amp. With the right subs on a good electrical. Is all you need. ✌
It didn't look like a pioneer.. Is the reason I asked the question. But I'll take your word for it! no arguments here
This might be old video. I used to have a cheap dual head unit. I can't see what video your comment is from. I'm in UA-cam studio on my phone and its real limited. But if it has blue screen. It's a dual. My pioneer has red screen
If you run 2 subs @1500 rms each you need to get the S.R. of 6000 no?
Yes and no. I mean they are rated 1500. But Sundown under rates there subs. So if I got a 6k. There wouldn't be any headroom. Why I use 8k. With box rise. The subs only see 5846 rms. So if I had 6o they would probably only see 3k
Very informative video. This will help a lot people out for sure.
Thank you! That's my goal is to help ppl 👍👊😁😎💯
How did u parallel wire it?
My sub has 6 slots
All negative to negative and positive to positive to the amp
Does the 0db test tone make the speakers move? or do they stay still during the test?
Yeah it makes them move. But I use 40hz tone to set my amps.👍💯
@Hammerback0 Yes but its the component speakers I was worried about. The only way to avoid them from going crazy is to disconnect the head unit and power/ground it while you set the gain for the subs. Unless you run amplified components then yea you can just disconnect them at the midrange amp.
I use the pioneer app and turn the mids and highs off. Disconnect the subs. Then set with multimeter 👍😎💯
Yelp thats what i do and turn the mids and highs off👍😎💯
Man thanx for the help your video guide me thru it all 💯
No problem 😊
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Best video i found.. thanks!! Also what does bottoming out sound like
Thank you! It's got good bandwidth. Better in person. 👍😎💯💨💨💨
U can hear it clear as day in person just sounds like shit than turn it a 8th down😍Boom
Check my new videos I have much better system now😉👍💯
I have a Diamond Audio D6 700.4 that put out 2x 350 @4ohms bridged. How can i set the gain if I my speakers are 2ohms in bridged mode?
I need more info. What does the amp do @ 2ohm's?
@@bassjunkie2020 2 ohms: 175 watts RMS x 4 Chan. I have the option to pair my loudspeakers 2ohms or 8ohms final load. Can I wire it 2ohms bridged mode even if its not recommended? How ti set the gains in this case? Thanks for you help
I would do the 8ohms if your amp doesn't support 2ohm's. And I need the 8 ohm rating of your amp to get the right voltage. Personally I'd consider buying a 4 channel that supports 2ohm. Mine does and a great amp. Here is link to my 4 channel www.amazon.com/dp/B081718W3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_1SKR1RF9X7GFGVTD4E23?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Nice video. I have 4 1000 watts subs and 2 smart3’s . My subs are wired @ 1 ohm per pair. They are 4 ohm DVC’s . What’s my target voltage per amp also would this method be like gain matching?
For each Smart 3. To get 1000rms per sub. Set each Smart 3 @ 44.72 volts @ 1ohm. That will give you 2000rms per amplifier. 2000 rms ÷ 2 subs = 1000 rms per sub👍😁💯
@@bassjunkie2020 what would 50 volts put me @ rms wise? The only reason I ask is because my subs are under rated
Merry Christmas to sir!
Thank you for the video. Let me run this by you to make sure I am correct.
My sub is 500RMS my amp can put out 600rms at 4 ohms. I would like to keep at 4 ohms. Okay so I need to do 600 x 4 = 2400 and the square root of that is 48.9. So use my multi meter to set it to that number and I should be getting 600rms or whatever the amp is rated for at that setting correct? Thank you
Hard to wrap my head around it because 1000 rms is 31 and it’s more watts
What ohm is your sub? And is dual ohm?
@@bassjunkie2020 I emailed kicker. But to answer you it’s a 4 ohm DVC
Set your gain @ 44.7 voltage that will give you 500 rms @ 4ohms You have to wire it in series. That leaves you Headroom on your amp and more efficient
You made a video later raising the voltage to around 75v and it woke your sub up. A good sub can take way more than rated power. This is only good for SQ maybe?. I have 2 smart bass 3ks powering 2 Avatar stu 12s. Gain is matched at 75v on both amps. If i set mine at 54v it wouldn't be loud at all. I dont clip either.
Correct. I only made this video as recommendation. So new ppl learning won't blow there subs or amps
This is a full range amp you want every to the left except the gain
Yes, best video I found for this. Many thanks.
Appreciate that!👍😁💯
Why does no one ever show actually hooking up the multi meters wires?
What do you mean? I always hook up the multimeter! I sometimes show the results. But if you go through my video's. You will see it hooked up. Thanks for watching 😉💯👍💨💨💨⚡️
@@bassjunkie2020 I must have not seen the part when you plugged in the wires to the amp. At first I was confused because I saw red wires on the sub, so I wasn’t sure what was going on. But I got it now. Thank you
Oh to set voltage you have to hook multimeter to sub outputs
@@bassjunkie2020 thank you
I actually have never done this before I feel so stupid
I pulled my ported two 10”s out my trunk and fabricating a box into my rear deck for three 8.
This is the method I wanna use to set the game for my amp to make sure I’m pushing the full capacity or close to it of my amplifier without clipping and distorting anything. I know three subwoofers sounds more like SPL but I’m looking for SQ in a sealed enclosure
@@bassjunkie2020 my unit is running through a Audiocontrol DSP LC7I . What should I set the DSP at?
And smart teck will help impédance rise
Exactly 👊😎💯💨💨💨