I, HATE, I, ROBOT,
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This video is about the 2004 "adaptation" of I, Robot suggested by Isaac Asimov and nothing else.
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00:00 Asimov
1:52 Hardwired Robot
6:45 2004 Robots
11:30 Little Lost Robot
15:45 Frankenstein Robots
19:06 ROBOTS
26:00 Bicentennial Robot
30:03 Foundation Video
BBC'S Little Lost Robot: • Little Lost Robot - As...
Isaac Asimov's ROBOTS, VHS Interactive Movie: • Issac Asimovs Robots ...
Credits:
Patrick H. Willems as Jeff Vintar
Music by Epidemic Sound.
“Electric Mantis - Daybreak | Majestic Color”
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If the video underperforms, I'm changing the thumbnail to Will Smith slapping Isaac Asimov
Why wait?
Will said, "KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUTTA YOUR DAMN ROBOT MOUTH," but it was cut.
I miss you
(With Palpatine Voice) Do it!
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One thing I've learnt over the years, is that if I wait long enough, I'll encounter a video essay hating every single movie I loved growing up.
It indeed is the nature of really big numbers.
I loved every bit of it, thought it was super interesting and down to earth, it was a bad ass action sci-fi movie kept me engaged many times, the play on emotions I felt was perfect, cause it’s the stuff we all deal with on a daily basis, racism sexism murder politics dealing with loss and guilt, being helpless etc. wasn’t too sappy, i kinda miss the special effects of the early 2000s too like sky captain and the world of tomorrow... but maybe I’m just getting old even tho I’m only 28
Honestly, iRobot has its problems, but in terms of the overall story it really isn't that bad. The CGI for a mid-2000s movie is so good. To this day, I still ponder the meaning of this movie. A movie that draws out the thinking time is a great movie in my opinion.
It's one of those movies where the movie itself alone isn't bad, but when you consider everything they had to work with it was bad.
It's like some of the character portrayals of The Walking Dead the TV show versus the graphic novel, just pisses you off you read it first.
Or put in other terms, think of the best food you've ever tasted in your entire life, imagine you got in a year-long waitlist, paid $1,000 for it, then waited three-and-a-half hours at the restaurant for it to be brought out to you.
The food was pretty disappointing now, wasn't it?
Probably my bias (loved this movie as a kid), but I feel like I, Robot was still better than most action/sci fi movies from recent years despite its flaws.
Harlan Ellison on Isaac Asimov: "He had writer's block once. It was the worst ten minutes of his life."
HA
Didn’t Ellison write I have no mouth in a single night?
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeatyeah but to be fair it’s a short story, like 10 pages long or something
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat good thing he wasn't dictating it!
badum-tish
lool
Asimov is so fast as a writer he literally wrote an adaptation to a work before the original was published. I am in awe.
Not to reduce Asimov's accomplishments but this isn't uncommon. Writing a book or novel is just faster than producing a movie or tv show
That was more or less the case with Clarke's "2001: A Space Odyssey". The novel of the same name was written at the same time as Kubrick filmed his movie, and published after the movie came out. Of course, the general idea from which Clarke wrote the script during the "2001:ASO"s production was from an earlier short story by Clarke himself, 'The Sentinel', which vaguely describes man's similar encounter with an artefact with the same properties as 2001's monolith. One could say A.C. Clarke basically write the same story twice, but the eponymous novel is in fact a novelization of Kubrick's movie, albeit with some original ideas from Clarke. Which makes Clarke's "novelization" worth reading.
Not only was he that fast a writer but sufficiently in demand that the publishers got it to the shelves immediately.
@@mablungbalrog424 no, a novel is not always faster than making a movie. It all depends on the story, the writer, and the production.
Casablanca was shot in about a week. Speaker for the Dead (the much better next book after Ender's Game) took about 20 years to write.
@@mablungbalrog424 I mean in only six months I would still find that incredibly impressive
Hell I know more times the inverse has happened with cinematic adaptations finishing faster than the litterature source material thus often needing to change the ending as it hasn't been written yet. Some examples are Full Metal Alchemist (2003), Game of Thrones, Hellsing (2001 Anime) and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
When I watched it, I got the idea that the robot scientist knew WIll Smith's character personally from when he was fitted with the prosthetic arm.
he did, but the guy that made the vid overlooked so many things to focus on how "misogynistic" and stereotypical the movie is
Was checking the comments to see if anyone else mentioned that the Doctor knew the detective personally, not extremely well, but knew him well enough to know he would ask the right questions. One of the first lines you hear from the hologram is "It's good to see you again Detective"
Doctor L personally replaced Spooner’s arm, shoulder and top few ribs. Stopped watching the video after the first mention of misogyny.
Voke propaganda consent search peak me guy.. i love asimov it is my fav writer. I read all of him even something not fiction. I loved film with will smit, it was really fun and i don't find it mysogenist it was comedy, action comedy post 90 post men in black and it was hilarious. Yeah it is not a scy fi cherry like star trek, but hey, your vole friends hate star trek, see what they did on netflix omg, and you hate this? Just fuck off
@@damianosplay9457 he literally spends less than 2 minutes on misogyny. Come on.
The emotional scene for me is when Will's character was forced to kill his dog because it was turning into a robot. Killing a robot dog is a violation of the 5 laws of Voight/Kampf
I AM ROBOT
TOBOR MA I
We mixing movies here or...?
That must have been Ruff!.
But what about the part when his robot partner tells Will to wipe his memory banks because he's wants to retire from fighting alien robots?
The murdered science guy gave the detective his arm. That is how they knew each other.
It's not murder it's suicide by robot
@@SmokingBeagles I'll leave it to the police to decide.
Thank you!!!
Exactly. Was looking for this correction. Further the creator knew of Spooners prejudice which is the theme of the movie that this video left out.
@@SmokingBeaglesAre you telling me we’re some kinda suicide squad?
Fun fact: In the original book for Frankenstein, the “monster” never originally intended to kill anyone at first. It was the doctor leaving him to rot that led to the murderous revenge killing spree. They even tried to negotiate at one point.
The doctor also goes out his way to destroy him, convinced he will create a race of super zombie people or whatever with his “bride”
But it turns out the bride is disgusted by the notion of being made purely as a spouse for another creature.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeatNo, the bride is never finished. She doesn't think anything. Read the book.
(Paraphrased)
"I am capable of the greatest love and the vilest hatred. Deny me one, and I will be forced to show you the other."
The ending is even tragic for the monster. After Dr.Frankenstein dies, the monster loses the only reason he had to live, relinquishes his last words to the narrator, and leaps into the waters of the Arctic to either die or be forgotten forever.
So basically the monster was the most selfless and purest, most perfect, ideal person and Frankenstein was just the most ignorant and stupidest person to exist. At least that's how I see it after countless comments only depicting good things about the monster and only bad things about the doctor, I've never seen anybody ever mention anything bad about the monster, ever.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki People are stupid about Frankenstein. They learn one thing about it, then assume that they're experts.
“A robot can no more commit murder than a human can walk on water.”
“Well, you know there was this one guy a long time ago.”
Always liked that exchange
For me it's an awful line, out of place in science fiction and of course Asimov would've never wrote something like this. But on second though I supposed is appropriate for an action hollywood flick where the hero that is anti-intellectual and traditionalist.
i like the water into wine story better. So he walked on grapes, and made the wine devine. Kids, what can you do?
@@GanjaLibre That seems rather elitist and anti-theist, but okay.
@@GanjaLibre well in a fictional world anything is possible...
Do people miss the point? Sonny is admiting that robots could kill, even if humans are not known to walk on water, technology has made the feat less god like. He figured that Will Smith would go for the facile comeback and miss the point of what he's saying.
It's been too long since I watched the movie and frankly I don't want to, but I rather like this interpretation.
Detective Spooner : “Can a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?”
Sonny : "Can you?"
Sonny is maybe the best robot characters I've ever seen
@@lightningmonky7674 what about ninntendo?
@@lightningmonky7674 what about Mark Zuckerberg in Social Network?
@@LuisSierra42 Mark Zuckerberg isn't a robot. He's a lizard man.
OHHHHHHH
I am particularly impressed with how narrowly he was able to focus specifically on the movie adaptation on I, Robot and nothing else for the full half hour. 😅
Despite that focus, he missed the real reason why it was an adaptation though: Will Smith. Every movie Will Smith is in, automatically becomes a movie about a tough as nails, witty and determined main character, aka Will Smith playing the idolised version of himself.
@@tjroelsma Ah yes! The genre that is Will Smith IN Will Smith AS Will Smith BY Will Smith! 🤣
@@zeratullotus2790 Yes, and it's a shame, because he IS a good actor.
@@tjroelsma Absolutely he is, but even he is cursed by effects of type casting... Interestingly enough Will Smith is immortal and will never die as an actor, there is enough him recorded for AI to successfully keep him alive in art and he will be dead and gone but somehow become the best version of Han Solo in the remakes 😅
@@zeratullotus2790 Is it really typecasting though? In my opinion Will Smith choses his scripts and then has the main character rewritten as Will Smith.
The most obvious example of this being the movie Gemini Man, where the aging assassin Will Smith is challenged by his young clone Will Smith. The interesting concept of the movie, the aging Smith relying on experience to combat the much better physical condition of clone Smith, was completely ruined by Smith not willing to play aging Smith different from clone Smith, so the movie completely fell flat, as aging Smith fully went head-to-head and blow-for-blow with clone Smith and therefore the movie didn't make any sense.
Nitpick: At around 9:30 you talk about how the Doctor pins his hopes on Spooner "a guy he's never met before"...but in the film Spooner has a direct relationship with Lanning. Lanning was the one who gave him his prosthetic arm.
“I, Robot” is a book of short stories exploring the various problems that can result from the application of his 3 laws, the studio basically just bought title recognition.
It reminds me a lot of “World War Z” that way.
That sounds really cool
@@SirEnd3r asimov is fun to read. a bit dated at first, later it gets woker and woker, for a 70's guy. (from an european left wing nb perspective)
It's there, Fred Bloggs. It's just grafted in and not very significant in the film. We get a bit about how a robot chooses between two lives to save if it has to, and one instance of the robot collective coming to the automatic rescue of Will's character.
Not that that's very satisfying if you came for Asimov's brilliance. 🤓
It is, @@SirEnd3r
The 3 Laws are a guarantee. Each story is about an anomaly where a robotic intelligence seems to break them (and/or goes nuts because of them).
People always miss the part in Frankenstein where Dr. Frankenstein is repulsed by his creation and wanted to destroy it first, while the Monster was looking for validation and acceptance from his creator.
The point is Asimov didn't want any kind of Frankestein complex in his robot stories. He actually started writing robot stories because he didn't like that they were always portrayed as dangerous in the fiction of that time. Movies like Spielberg's AI are way more based on Asimov's robots than I Robot.
What he wanted is separate from what he did, culturally@@jal051
LOL, sounds like my dad!
@@Dogman262 oh damn 😧
Exactly. Dr Frankenstein is the villain, everything bad happens because the monster is rejected and abused.
If I remember correctly, that clip from the elevator wasn't misogynistic behavior from Will's character at all, the context was that the detective was expressing suspicion and distrust of the CEO's actions, which were somewhat suspect to detective Spooner during the entire movie.
He lets her know through his words and actions that he doesn't appreciate that someone from the company he's investigating needs to accompany and monitor him. Though now I can totally see that reaction can be interpreted 2 very different ways.
The CEO is a red herring to the viewer as a lot of clues point toward his involvement with the crimes or actions taken against Spooner. So this is the beginning of a long line of instances where Spooner shows distrust or disbelief in the company's leadership. And this is a cop that is repeatedly criticized for wearing his emotions on his sleeve and flying off the handle. So the fact he lets his disgust be known thematically makes sense with his character.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie as a kid, but I agree with all the criticisms of the nonsensical plot and character dialogue and mangling Asimiv's original intentions. It's all very contrived. But this movie excels in entertainment factor and set design and is a better than average Will Smith vehicle. While I loved the action segments, the movie could have been amazing if it had leaned into its film noir elements.
Bro the elevator scene is misogynistic because when she says she's supposed to do what he wants, Spooner turns it into a sex thing
For someone who made a whole essay on this movie, I'm surprised of how many key points you've missed entirely.
I know, this guy really is something
What key points were those? Tell us, then
Soooo you REALLY being critical is …. Not LISTING WHAT AND WHY? Christ you state at ALL what points he missed, almost like you’re LYING and just CLAIMING he’s missed points. Quite being a liar mmmmk? Cuz he if had missed all these points….you’d have listed them. Or what….you’re not smart enough for all that? 😂🙄🤡
Put up or shut up buddy.
@@kronecker9601 I have. Which key points are you referring to?
I am in love with them using “suggested by” instead of “inspired by” or even “partly based on” because not only is that THE WEIRDEST way to phrase that but it brings to mind an image of the book leaning over to Vintar and going “…psst… hey dude, what if…”
My only issue with that is that The Humanoids by Jack Williamson was also going psst over Vintar's other shoulder and it's suggested by has been painted over. All of which is to say a "suggested by any author writing about robots who we stole -sorry, that's - barrowed from" would be even more accurate.
This description is so accurate and hilarious 😂
"What if ... now bear with me here... androids existed."
"OMG WHOOOOOAAA! What a suggestive suggestion!"
If they came up with different title for movie it wouldnt be as awkward.
Something like, oh I don't know, Hardwired 😀😉
"If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live, I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster" - Asimov
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Wish GRRM had that attitude XD
So he can publish 21 more words? That would be the shortest story ever. Unless you count one of my short stories for English class in 3rd grade.
@@BEdwardStover issa joke
Also, do you only type 3wpm?
@@BEdwardStover Dude could have probably got three novellas and an essay done in that time.
When I was 15, my grandfather handed me a huge box full of dozens of books and told me he was getting rid of them so I could just pick as many as I liked and keep them. I don't remember much of the books I chose except for two: "Les Robots de l'Aube" by Isaac Asimov and "Le Bourreau" by Sergueï Belochnikov. I won't talk about the second, though I really liked it as an angry 15 yo girl, but the first one had a huge impact on me. I re-read it so many times after that first in my grandfather's home. I knew I was missing a piece and always assumed this was book 2 of a series I was missing the previous installment for. Only years later in a bookshop did I ask about Asimov because they had the first book of Foundation and I was told that he wrote hundreds of books. But for me, Asimov will always be The Robots of the Dawn, in a comfy chair sitting next to my grandfather.
If you make it to the final book of Foundation, which is Foundation and Earth, you will be rewarded for reading first Robots of Dawn. I'm not saying more!
You agreed with him and I already mentioned several things on your Instagram account. You have prejudice.
Aww this is so sweet
I did not get, "Strong, masculine man," from his rejection of technology AT ALL. I got stubborn, inflexible and stunted. That was a weird line in your script.
it was a different time back then, before the nerd got cool.
He’s speaking with air quotes referring to how the Hollywood production folks saw the character
it doesn't makes much diff when the movie portrays him as being in the right
This guy's a clown so yeah
It's 2024, 20 years ago it wasn't the case. Most male characters (with a few great exceptioms) were created with that in mind, female ones? Forget about it.
"He killed himself in the hope a guy he never met would figure it out" Not true. The doctor spent a lot of time with Spooner replacing his arm. It's how the doctor knew Spooner's paranoia would blame robots.
Yeah that's like a central plot point that gets explained quite explicitly
I came too the comments for this. I had to stop listening after this the guy clearly didn’t pay attention when watching the film.
@@simonelliott2945 He's a hater, he's not critiquing on genuine interest. Most of his takes are political. His only fair point is that it isn't based on the source material. But it's clear that the movie never intended to do so.
@@AImighty_Loafhe makes good points but this definitely was wrong
@@AImighty_Loaf I'm not sure how you managed to squeeze politics into this, that's quite fascinating.
There's something subtly hilarious about wording a credit as "suggested by" instead of "based on" or "adapted from".
Most adaptations should use "suggested by" considering how little many have to do with the original stories (I'm looking at YOU, Starship Troopers).
It just reminds me of when you'd copy or allow your friend to copy your homework, and just change it a little XD
Because it avoids what's really going on "marketed from".
I'm surprised they didn't use, "inspired by"
You could do that so often. Discovery: "loosely based on Gene Roddenberry's 'Star Trek' "
You have no idea how mad I was when you destroyed that vhs tape
Spooner knows the doctor because he got his prosthetics from the guy.
Sonny didnt flinch when he was in the robot line up, he peeked out to see what was happening.
I dont remember the Hansel and Gretel thing being a clue at all, just a reference meant to explain other clues.
When sunny "flinched" I felt like he wanted to save the robot from being killed.
Through it all, "I'm allergic to bullshit." is still one of the best lines ever written.
Isaac Asimov had such a way with words 🙏
"Hold my pie. Sir, hold it or wear it."
-Asimov
@@frankkennedy6388 😅😅
this is from the guy that thought the Last of Us 2 was genius lol.
@@purefoldnz3070 it is.
FUN FACT: Asimov's book "I, Robot" was also renamed to match the 1939 short story, of the same name, by Eando Binder. Asimov wanted the title to be "Mind and Iron" but the publisher decided to use Binder's title instead.
So, "Hardwired" becoming "I, Robot (2004)" is the most historically "I, Robot" thing it could do. Lol
Another FUN FACT: Eando Binder is actually a nom de plume for two brothers who wrote books together for a while:- Earl Andrew Binder, and Otto Binder, thus E and O Binder.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eando_Binder
@@timbeaton5045 Kinda reminds me of the Hotline Miami dev team calling itself Dennaton as a portmanteau of the two guys' names, Denis Wedin and Jonaton Soderstrom. I might be slightly misspelling their names, I know Soderstrom has an umlaut somewhere in it lol.
Which of course is inspired by "I, Claudius" 1934
@@diomepa2100 and "I, Claudius" was based on accounts by Suetonius and Tacitus, while Asimov was inspired by Thucydides and his "History of the Peloponnesian War" for the concept of scientific history upon which Foundation is based...
The Binder brothers' story is about a robot accused of murdering its creator. I'm SURE that the movie plot is JUST a coincidence...🤨
1 minute into the video and I’m thinking “no reason why George hasn’t finished a song of ice and fire”
Asimov was quite open about his talents being centered around exploring novel ideas rather than technically correct prose or good characterization. He excelled at world building and incorporating real scientific principles into fictional works. His ability to write fully realized characters who could have a meaningful dialogue was limited and he knew this, so he wrote in a way which emphasized his strengths and downplayed these weaknesses. That is why the Foundation series works so well, it brings the focus away from individual characters for most of the series and puts the spotlight on the political dynamic between the various groups.
I remembered that I actually tried reading him as I thought he was a very good storyteller (at least in the aspect of characters). It was not my cup of tea, so I didn't even finish the first book of the foundation. It would have been good to know that beforehand, being honest.
I love a ton of his short stories, tho.
You’ve got me more interested in reading his books because I never thought about authors having strong suits and whether or not they can downplay where they lack. I’m curious about how I’d react to just world building.
The Will Smith Effect: while watching this movie I was expecting at any moment for Spooner to straight up punch a robot in the face and say "welcome to Earth!".
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Punching someone/something in the face is Smith's default way of dealing with things - on and off the screen.
One of my favourite comments made about _Independence Day_ was a comment on how Will Smith can apparently punch out an alien that's protected by biomechanical armour followed by something along the lines of "mind you, he has had a lot of practice on journalists."
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Yeah, I kinda miss a rap clip of this movie for some reason.
To be fair, the poor guy who had to do the screenplay for this did just about the best job you could at juggling all those conflicting elements. Hats off to him!
tbh the film is still overall an enjoyable flick, especially if you’re within the audience who doesn’t know the source material. I loved this movie as a kid
I think both the producers and Will Smith messed his script up. I wouldn't be surprised if he had to redo the whole script over 6 or more times.
This whole video reminded me of the book "Arthur Writes a Story." Arthur tries to write a story about how he got his dog, but he keeps adding ideas until it's about dancing elephants on the moon.
@@namebrandmason kkkkkk like the premise already
Not really, because we have someone who had already done a better job on spec years before this movie was made back in 1978 when Warner Brother optioned the book, and on which Asimov collaborated on himself. That version was considered unfilmable at the time because of budget constraints and the technology of the time. So why we got this garbage with a 120 million dollar budget and the technology to pull it off in 2004 is indefensible.
I thought the Dr Lanning did meet Spooner.
He gave him his robot arm.
???
He did, the author of this video is a dumass, there is even dialogue about it
This guy is just clueless. To make an entire video essay on a movie and miss the main point of that movie is just shocking.
I feel like I'm the only one who's ever noticed the giant plot hole in I, Robot:
In the Spooner's flashback with the car accident, why are they driving what should be old AF cars both Spooner and the girl with her family? I mean, Calvin even considers Spooner's bike a relic, but okay, in the remote case both Spooner and the girl's family in the other car are into vintage cars, then WHY would it matter if the truck driver that crashed into them fell asleep on the wheel? Why is there a driver when there's huge robot-carrying self-driving trucks? People have told me, _"well, maybe self-driving wasn't still implemented"_ but the previous generation of robots were?? It makes no sense and it completely destroy Spooner's thin AF character.
The small cars both being old was probably just a mistake in filming, I hadn't ever even noticed that. But driving yourself was definitely still a thing even it the present at least on some roads since the ability is shown to exist and Spooner engaging manual drive is only met with the objection of "it's too dangerous at these speeds". We don't know what kind of infrastructure the self-driving needs to work, it's possible that the accident happened on a road that didn't have it yet or just that the truck was an old model that didn't have it yet either at all or as a good enough version to properly handle the road he was on. Companies and truckers don't replace their equipment very often if they don't need to. Going into that much detail isn't really necessary for the plot of the movie so we can't really know.
The scene where the new robots destroy the olds robots is still one of the most tragic things I’ve seen in a movie.
I always found the robot “circus”/old robot fights in “A.I.” super awesome aesthetically and suuuuper creepy and haunting.
While on the whole I wasn’t that into the movie, those particular visuals really stuck w me.
Don't worry, we're just here to reprogram you.
THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS.
Those old robo boys were just trying to help a human too
I love the NS-4s. If I'm gonna have a robot around, I don't want no creepy Uncanny Valley nonsense. I want my annoyingly cheery, obviously mechanical Robo buddy. The "Another on time delivery from FedEx!" robot never ceases to make me smile.
The thing about Asimov is that you could reasonably adapt most of his work for theatre. His galactic level shennennigans mostly take place in backroom negotiations, and conflict is mostly verbal. It's a real shame not more adaptations were made back when TV was mostly filmed theatre.
It's probably because of the subject matter. Most likely would have been viewed as another Twighlight Zone or Outer Limits, which did have their own sets of struggles.
And so of course, they turned his story into an action movie...
Yeah they be cheap to make, but who wants to see a boring movie about people talking politics, not many people would, maybe if it w as like the the big short than yeah maybe
@@DanielRodriguez-zi9qe Movies like Twelve Angry Men beg to differ.
It would also be easy to add action scenes in at the appropriate spots to show events characters discuss, though. In most cases, everything would still flow naturally in terms of pacing.
Why are you destroying that VHS tape!????
Why did you destroy that VHS tape and material at the end? It seems like a genuine collector's item. What a horrific act.
Lanning knew Spooner. He repaired him and gave him robotic parts after the accident. That's why Lanning knew Spooner would follow the clues pointing towards a robot committing a murder. Lanning knew about Spooners' prejudice towards robots.
That explains a lot ! I've only ever seen the movie it was a favorite of mine as a kid. The relationship between spooner and Lanning confused me alot.
Came here to say the exact same thing glad it wasn't just me who remembered .... like I thought it was a huge part of the plot
it's still really unsatifying
@@braedoluciano It is. That part of the video made me pause to comment the same thing. Like, it's directly spelled out in the movie why Spooner was the one called. It's not robot science here.
"Lanning knew about Spooners' prejudice..." Jeez, it's still dumb, and even if you somehow "repaired" the tissue-paper premise, it's still a disjointed, godawful travesty of storytelling. And "Bicentennial Man" was a dumb idea on its face, but who's going to say no to Williams OR Columbus, never mind the two joining forces?
why are you pulling apart the vcr at the end? It looked like a pretty cool video
I bumped into someone a while ago and told them I had just finished I, Robot. They said they'd watch the film. We swapped notes. I came away convinced one of us had misremembered the title.
The whole point of the book was that Asimov wanted to write stories about robots that were NOT about the robots running amok and killing people. So they made a movie adaptation that was all about robots running amok and killing people.
Hollywood at its finest.
In the end, Capitalism will destroy everything - even the Earth itself.
Once again it shows how clueless the Hollyweird elites are. They don't get Asimov and they sure as hell don't get Robert E. Howard (creator of Conan the Barbarian). Instead, they see these as exploitable pastiches, stealing thunder and making money off the backs of those who unlike them, were actually creative.
That killed me. You use the title, you call it an adaptation, then you throw out the book and do everything opposite of the book and all the other books that make up the linked Robot, Earth and Empire series (total of 25 books, great to read in order back to back).
That was the entire point. The movie ends with finding out there's more to the robots than meets the eye as personality simulations become the bitter molt of Souls
I have a soft spot for this movie because I was like 8 when I first saw it and it was my "baby's first sci-fi movie". Still kind of a guilty pleasure now years later.
Honestly me too. Child me had never encountered an idea as bleak as "The robot let someone else die because I was statistically more likely to live", and I still remember Sonny really fondly and clearly, especially the first time Spooner interrogates him.
I'm in the same boat. Thankfully, I never got so into it that I can't see how pretty shit it actually is. I still got a fond smile seeing some of the scenes again here though
Something similar happened to me, I watched as a teen and really liked it. But then I rewatched it after reading many of Asimov's books and I couldn't even get to the end.
Yeah it seems a lot of people fell in like this. Me too
Add me to the list. I was like 12 years old and any sci-fi/dystopia movie in the post-Matrix was devoured by me. I had a pirate copy from my neighbor and I watched a lot during family trips (on this crappy portable 7“ DVD player). Earlier this year I was rewatching it with my gf after more than a decade… regretted it a bit. 👀
To anyone getting offended because you grew up with it, ever consider that you like it because you first saw it when you had the taste of a child?
27:44 i think that 'bicentennial man' would actually work really well as a tv series (like, an actual tv series, where each season is like 20 or 30 episodes, not a truncated 'mini-series-series' thing, where each 'season-of-episodes' is anywhere from 8 to even a single episode) and each season could explore each element and each theme in the depth it deserves, imo.
- first season could be about andrew exploring his creativity, as well as learning about things like businesses and copyright, and really bring gravitas and commentary to AI rights regarding the products they make. (relevant to the AI-art issue at present, imo)
- second season could be a CSI / investigation sort of season, where andrew does lots of research and tracks down the other models of robots that he is a part of, and possibly provides commentary on robot part cannibalization, if andrew takes to harvesting the dead robots for his own mechanical-replacement maintenance needs.
- third season could be a romance / rom-com where Andrew tries his hand at figuring out the social implications of human dating and sexuality and such.
- fourth season could be his journey to becoming more human, and developing the series of human-ish replacement organs and such, as well as some political and/or bureaucratic episodes where he has to deal with 'the human machines' of society and government.
Spooner never met Lanning? It is very well established that Lanning and Spooner are friends. That is also part of why Spooner fights so hard at this case! He is his friend, and he tests others with casual dismissal of Lanning to see how they react. When Susan reacts badly at this accusation, he begins to trust her. When his grandma learns of Lanning's passing she says how he took care of her boy!
shhh just let him hate the movie he fast-forwarded through
He also mentioned no evidence being left behind from the highway tunnel fight being weird but im pretty sure we see the machinery clean it up
In fact, its established that Lanning is the doctor who helped Spooner replace his missing limb, and knew of his paranoia because of the previous incident.
Established but poorly shown. Took me 7 years to relieve they knew each other (i was just a child tho!)
@@Cenikidyeah, it's a quick line, she says "I didn't realize. That's how you knew Lanning" when she notices his scars
Wait. If memory serves me correctly, the doctor guy who used Sunny to orchestrate his own murder, _did_ actually know Det. Spooner beforehand. If I'm not mistaken, it was the doctor guy who performed the surgery that gave Spooner his cybernetic augmentations after his car crash.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Correct. The video made a mistake on that part.
Not that the rest of the mystery was anything special still.
He did, and it was purely plot convenience to tie them together.
@@throatwobblermangrove8510 yeah, that's called a movie
@@looper964 No, it's called plot convenience, as I previously noted. A movie can proceed along a logical path without having an improbable connection taken advantage of at an opportune time to produce a desired outcome. "Hey, I just happened to operate on this guy, and he's upset that my AI machine kept him alive, and he happens to be in a prime position to investigate my supposed suicide when NO ONE in the world other than him believes that robots can commit murder. What are the odds? Doesn't matter; that's good enough. I'm glad I waited to do this until he needed to be saved so he could solve the mystery just in time before my AI hivemind destroys everything and everyone."
dude your volume levels are all over the place in this video
My mom grew up a big Asimov fan and this film made her apoplectic.
The scientist personally made Spooners arm. They knew each other, and he knew of Spooners' prejudice because of and due to the accident involving the little girl.
It’s a little shocking how the author of this video missed that lol.
Yeah, he's getting a lot of things wrong. I hate how low the standard is for videos like this. It's just expected that they'll get basic facts wrong. Like Chris Columbus wrote The Goonies. Richard Donner directed it. They just confidently state incorrect information and the vast majority of the audience either doesn't know or doesn't say anything to be polite. We need to start demanding they do better
@@hezekiahramirez6965 UA-cam should be like twitter wherein videos that have false information and blatant oversights are not able to earn revenue. Right now there is no incentive to NOT post stuff like this.
Massively underrated comment
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed too. I haven't seen this movie since theaters and I remembered it. I get disliking a film, but I can't take critique of something like this seriously if the person making it missing surface level detail
As the Robots in Asimov's writings became more sophisticated, they collectively start abiding by what becomes the Zero-th Law of Robotics which if I recall was "Robots should not allow Humanity to come to harm through either action or inaction." Thus completing their transformation from humanity's simple servants to ultimately becoming their altruistic sheperds.
Quite correct.
whatever, will a robot still do my homework for me?
@@kittydaddy2023 Even better, the robot would be able to competently teach you with ever-lasting patience how to understand and complete the assignment fully, and you'll be better off from it. :)
@@b3ntl33 :D
@Cat Having Fun I'm not sure true sentience is equivalent to slaving away under capitalism but you do you.
And this brings my very brief meeting with the author Harlan Ellison. It was a book signing for I, Robot The Screenplay. For those who are familar with Ellison's work, he wasnt known for being subtle < wink >.
That being said, Harlan also exhibited empathy and compassion in his work. In the introduction of the screenplay, Harlan writes of sitting with Isaac at an movie thearter and watching I, Robot together. But sadly, this was only a dream as Isaac died before it was published. This broke my heart, for I visioned them together watching togerher in awe, just two close buddies...having a blast.
Daaamn I’m so happy the general consensus in this comment section is that this movie is good.
Asimov later added the 0th law of robotics: “A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.” This seems to have also have been adapted into the story for the super computer Vicky logic in overriding the first law.
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The comic sans sells it.
Edit: I take it back. Lost it again when you started kvetching about your soggy knees.
9:38 The doctor did meet Spooner before. He helped with the cybernetics of Spooner's arm.
7:27 "Spooner hates robots because they chose to save him from drowning rather than a little girl."
An actually interesting ethical dilemma that deserved to be in a better movie
Yes, and now a topical one, with self-driving cars on the horizon.
I really fucking hate the trolley problem for self driving cars. What will you pick, trampling the child or the elder, the black one or the asian one, the dog or the woman? How about using the breaks... It's so stupid.
@@marcoasturias8520 Yeah, well, the trolley problem isn't there to provide a solution. It's to determine how we rationalise decision making. That said, you left out a possible option; instead of taking out a group of children, perhaps the better option for the car company is to take out YOU the driver instead. Perhaps the legal implications of crashing and killing its occupant is valued as less of a loss than obliterating a half dozen kids.
@@RickReasonnz Doubt it because of thats a known thing buyers will prefer to buy other alternatives that assure their lives are first, thus automatic cars will have as a priority protect their passengers
The movies actually pretty good, that's why there's so many people defending it and pointing out this videos mistakes in the comments. It's a really solid action movie with a tight script and some fun action. It's not Blade Runner but it's not really supposed to be though.
Your meme restraint is recognized and appreciated
I could feel the struggle was real.
the thumbnail k*lled me I am STILL laughing to myself rn it's been a few mins
The crying girl meme was employed flawlessly. Love it.
It's kind of funny how much of an example of Dunning Kruger this video is. Guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't know or notice key plot points (the window being unbreakable by humans, the Doctor being close with Spooner because he had made his arm, etc). He complains about muh misogyny when both the examples he presented weren't even fucking sexist, just character moments. Just because a woman doesn't know how to shoot a gun doesn't mean the movie is sexist lmfao.
Plus the whole premise of the video was that the movie was a shit adaptation, then he himself points out that the movie is completely honest about how it was only inspired by Asimov and -isn't- an adaptation. You're looking too much into this movie. It was always meant to be a fun popcorn flick (and it is), and despite that it does have a few thought provoking moments thank to its "suggested" source material.
This video is just kind of pointless.
If there’s one good thing that came out of this movie it’s that clip of the robot saying “…No.”
I may be misremembering things, but I always got the impression that Spooner knew the dead scientist guy very well. That he was responsible for the robotic prosthetics Spooner has which was an experiment and that he would have followed up with Spooner closely to ensure they were working.
Yup this is true lol so slightly off but honestly it’s still a big leap of hope that it would be spooner getting this case lol
@@AllieBee00 It is a big leag and the movies isn't too mid to need defending, but the scientist was constantly under surveillance from Vicky so he had to leave a good deal of things at chance.
@@AllieBee00 IIRC there was a scene between Spooner and the chief, where Spooner asks why he’s being assigned to the case, and it was stated that the hologram asked for him specifically to be put on the case.
He was....and even then, he may have been setting Spooner up to discover the "zeroth law" problem with VICKI. Why else would the head of the company take such a personal intrest in a lone cop? And yeah....Aasimov wrote a VERY diffrent book. But tha'ts part of the point... a LOT of older science fiction has communist/socialist overtones where individualism is surrendered to the "greater good"...with optimistic outcomes. Star Trek is another good example. Buuuuuuut....times change, and not everyone is willing to drink that kool-aid.
Yes the maker of this video overlooked this part of the story. Also, the Scientist/Surgeon knew that Spooner hated this “robot everywhere” world that was encroaching.
That original "robot whodunnit" style screenplay actually sounds pretty interesting, kind of a shame we never got to see that.
You can always just go ahead and make your version of it.
@@kebman Ah yes, because everyone is a director with deep-ass pockets and/or incredible talent. Or just plain y'know, is a filmmaker of any variety.
The "if you don't like it, you do it" argument has and always will be fucking stupid.
I don't remember if it's vanilla or modded, but there's a Fallout 4 quest that basically plays out the same way as the original Hardwired concept would have. Vault 118.
@@randomcanadian6298 it's from dlc
I always wondered if screenwriters get really frustrated that their hard-worked story gets super changed for screen, or if they know it's just part of the process
Whenever I talk about Asimov robots with someone who hasn't read Asimov I always hear "is that the one about how robots turn on humanity?" and I say "No it is not another one of those."
Why does every Canadian have to ruin their video essay with some salty comment about the UK?
Lol right? His types like to pretend that britain is the only contry with a terrible history, idk why they love to harp on Britain so much.
9:38 The doctor did know spooner he was the one that fixed him up after the accident. Thats why he “knew” that he would figure out it was not a suicide.
Thank u
In fact he's the one that upgraded him with robotical parts after his accident, the guy literally saved his life, they were pretty intimate to the point he knew how to use his distrust of robots to preplan a counterattack to the final antagonist.
It's like he wasn't even paying attention on purpose just to shit on this movie
^ this comment thanks. "A guy he didn't even met" doc fixed the arm for the police program to help them with injuries... so much for paying attention
Came here to say the same thing! He knew Spooner was prejudiced because of that incident, and was counting on that prejudice to unravel the truth.
Imagine my surprise when the adolescent me found the "I, robot" book and it was not like the movie.
It was much better. I love Asimovs stories and they solidified my love for science fiction.
I was upset at first (I was around 10 or 11) especially because they used the cover of the movie for the book cover. Later on my 2nd read through, I absolutely loved it and got me into his other works
@@ivanc8874 This annoyed me so much. They put Will Smith on the cover of the book even though his character doesn't exist in the book.
If you want an Asimov book that actually really resembles this movie try The Caves of Steel and it's sequel
Really enjoyed this, thank you for the time and effort.
Hey justwrite, thanks for making this. I've now been binge listening to everything Asimov for months and I love all of it.
We really appreciate your extreme focus in making this video only about the 2004 Will Smith movie I, Robot.
We must applause his restrain 👏
You forgot to add "adaptation"
Fun fact: The title 'I, Robot' wasn't just borrowed to sell a movie script that has nothing to do with Asimov, but it was also borrowed from another author's story by the publisher of Asimov's collection of short stories to sell his work.
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They'll always be together,
Together in electric dreams.
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It should have been called, Them Robots, or I, Susan Calvin.
Other titles considered include:
"Ahhh! Robot!"
"Oooh, a Robot!"
"Mmm... Robots!"
"Yes, I Am a Robot"
"R is for Robot"
"Oi, Robot!"
"I Row Boats"
"I'm RoboCop"
"I Know My First Name is Robot"
"A Clockwork Robot"
"Robots of the Lost Ark"
"Bill and Ted's Excellent Robot"
"Full Metal Robot"
"Do Robots Dance the Electric Boogaloo?"
"Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Robots (but were afraid to ask)"
"Who Framed Roger Robot?"
"Are You There, God? It's Me, Robot"
I "LOVE" the way Mr. Smith wears his skull cap. So cool... so cool.
That outro seems unnecessarily destructive.
I mean... granted I was a kid, but Bicentennial Man made me cry. It actually kind of made rethink what it meant to be human and what other things that don't look like me might feel. Baby's first existential crisis, I know, but I mean... I was like 12.
I cried at the end of bicentennial man. Shit sticks with ya
I'm sorry, 'baby's first existential crisis' had me on the floor 😆
I completely forgot about this movie until it was mentioned in the video and SAME! I watched it when I was probably around 8 and I remember and made me so sad and I cried. Kinda wanna rewatch it to be honest..
I still teared up when I re-watched it the other day. Sure the supporting character development isn't great, but you just can't help be happy for the guy at the end. He died content.
That and fucking Beaches. Still gets me, gaddamit.
@@zachlong5427 Goo goo gaga, I am nothing in the stream of consciousness.
9:39 "A guy he'd never met before." No, Lanning did the surgery for Spooner's arm himself. They certainly knew one another, which is why Spooner expresses his sentiment to Dr. Calvin in her apartment after he learns she and Lanning were close. "The problem is, I do care" I believe is the actual line Spooner says before leaving her apartment. Lanning meant a lot to both Spooner and Calvin, and there are multiple times in the movie where this is made apparent.
just ignore this "review" just woke agrandising
@@DaraGaming42someone who unironically says "woke" spotted
@@theghostcreator776 congrats, you found me out, I was a snake in the grass , social conservative spotted , well done 👏
@@theghostcreator776 The video poster literally claimed that a woman not knowing how to shoot and being scared of a gun made the movie sexist.
@@vyor8837 it does, not in isolation mind you. But in the context of the movie itself it absolutely does, or do you truly believe that women in general do not know how to use guns?
The statement was also made to directly criticize the *comment* Spooner made about her, as well as all other times in the movie where characters acted in a similar way so nonchalantly.
I like the arguments given from this video however I feel the comments about the woman using the gun wrong and being criticized for it being "misogynistic" is ridiculous, I would argue it would be more misogynistic if they would refrain from being pissed from being shot at by a blind person.
keep in mind if this would be a real situation in say a police or military scenario the offender would get a wedgie and be thrown into the wall. depending on the people if you show negligence with a firearm TOWARDS SOMEONE they'll beat you up or even kill you for that. this was a significant scenario boiled down to a comedy point for early 2000's americans.
in addition you are using the word wrong, the misogyny word is used to describe STRONG prejudice, not snide remarks that maybe potentially is sexist if not just meant to be rude as you were misinterpreting.
I get that this video intends to entertain some really interesting ideas and explain how a potentially amazing movie got turned into a mediocre one. however, the mentality of discrediting / deducting points for the movie from YOUR stereotypical brittle boned view on modern politics, and probably your need to virtue signal or something makes ME and likely a lot of other viewers deduct points of EVERYTHING else you argue, because to me that seems SO braindead and bad faith of a argument.
what's more its even more annoying because the way you brought it up implies you're one of those types of people who are so bought into such beliefs that counterarguments would fall on deaf ears.
No doubt if the roles would have been reversed and it was a man who closed his eyes while shooting a gun you would call it a feminist wet dream for portraying any man as a wimp.
It's always funny to see how easily triggered those macho rightwing MAGA dunce cap wearing incels are.
@9:39 They were good friends. the Doctor helped Spooner with his arm.
The doctor not only met the detective, he's the one who saved his life, gave him back his left arm and hand and taught him how to use and maintain them. They were good friends and the doctor trusted him fully.
It's pretty funny how he apparently did more research on the other adaptations than the one he's doing a review on. I love how he just stops talking about I Robot entirely by the end.
@@rubyreverie6484 Also saying that... a woman not knowing how to shoot made it misogynistic?
@@vyor8837Yeah, I thought that was just the usual "nerds don't know how to do cool action stuff" trope.
@@emperorbailey It was, she'd never even touched a gun before and why would she have?
Yeah, quite a few goofs about the script. I would have thought one would be thorough when making a half-hour video about a movie...
"Did you just shoot at me with your eyes closed"
"Well it worked didn't it?"
Out of everything in this movie, this is still hilarious
NO it’s misogynistic, how dare you
It's got some zingy lines
@@AbsentMinded619 his accusation of misogyny is truly bizarre.
@@AbsentMinded619 I hope it was an overexagerration joke
because it's funny
@@jcaique Yeah. His accusation really bothered me. There's far more casual misandry in Hollywood movies than misogyny. Like women kicking men in the balls for laughs and giggles.
9:40
That’s not true; Lanning personally replaced Spooner’s left arm, lung, and half his ribcage after his accident. They actually did know each other, and Lanning knew Spooner’s obsessive paranoia and distrust of robots would eventually lead him to solving his “suicide” case and to the conspiracy of VIKI in the end
had to scroll too much for this correction
something something confirmation bias something something. But I do think people action up Will Smiths movies too often in his filmography. He has quite a range if needed especially in stories he isn't allowed to be superhuman.
@@thereisnospace haha. I’m still scrolling to find the ‘one half, one half, one half’ correction. 😂🤣
@@yesitislikethat i just ignored that since he clearly did watch the movie with dislike from the start.
Spooner and dr lanfield HAD met before. It was the doctor that did the repair to his arm and chest personally.
9:38 what do you mean "A guy he never met before." The doctor literally made the arm that detective is using. He personally designed and made it then operated on detective to implant it thus saving his life. He asked for the detective by name when he left his hologram. They knew each other pretty damn well.
Apparently I was the 3rd person to notice this. Yeah, Dr. Alfred chose Spooner because he was "the perfect man for the job", which is what prompts him to dig deeper. Because Spooner knew Alfred knew Spooner. Ga, that was cyclic, but you get the point.
I don’t mind the 6 million dollar man reference whatsoever. More throwaway schlock.
(Same as robocop and inspector gadget. The bionic man lives everywhere. Geordi La Forge?)
What kinds of valid criticisms do you expect from a guy who says a scene about a random woman not being able to use a gun like she’s a professional is “misogynistic”.
@@ivanivanovichrasputin3098 triggered much? Come on, while technically correct, its of course the genre, all the guys know how to handle guys really well but the girl doesnt...
@@georgelionon9050 Bro learn to write a proper sentence and express your nonsensical thoughts before calling anyone out.
Slight correction: Chris Columbus did not direct The Goonies, he wrote the screenplay.
Richard Donner directed it.
Came here to make the same correction.
i thought he discovered america
@@Lynch2507
Native Americans did.
@@NiclasLoof wow so smart
9:38 He knew him I dunno what part of the movie you missed but his robot arm was personally built onto him by the doctor.
"MYsOGyNy"
Shows a clip of him saying two completely ambiguous words.
I always thought that sunny “flinched” because even though he was trying to preserve himself he knew the other robots were being controlled and therefore “innocent” so he was kind of like seeing their last moments. But that’s just my interpretation
Exactly my thought. He was trying to save the others from will smith's genocidal rage
I always thought of it as a reflex empathy response, like how we might flinch when we see someone break a bone in a disturbing way. It shows Sunny is “more than just a machine” and actually has a conscience human-like experience
@@headphonic8 genocidal. Lol pick a different word
@@steggyweggy that's dumb
@@yourmum69_420 I’m sorry you feel the need to put others down for no reason. I hope you have a better day tomorrow
I thought Will Smith’s logic for distrusting robots were reasonable. When the robot chose to save him instead of the little girl because the robot calculated that he had a better chance at surviving, that no matter how advanced they get they will always be incapable of telling the difference, was pretty clever writing.
sure, but the lengths his distrust goes to is stupid - thinking that robot robbed a woman. What souless calculation leads to that? Oh right, nevermind, the movie is dumb even when it is smart.
Definitely fascinating now that we're asking "Who should autonomous vehicles prioritize? Occupants or pedestrians?"
Tech companies are acting like their beta-level rollouts are perfect, and calling people paranoid who say "It's not perfect but only humans should be driving vehicles."
@@xBINARYGODx Stupid? Yes. Unrealistic? Absolutely not. Just look around you. Prejudices and conspiracy theories are so rampant today, wether it's anti-vax or flat earth. And compared to some of their rhetoric, Spooner's attitude is harmless.
@@xBINARYGODxYou are speaking like prejudice comes from a rational assumption, when it's quite the opposite. Just change the "robot" in your sentence to "black man" and you'll realize it.
@Bingo_the_Pug Spooner's hate for robots is illogical. He survived that accident but required extensive surgery to be able to properly function. And he's a healthy, athletic adult man. It's possible that the robot had detected multiple traumas on the little girl's body that will most likely kill her even if she is rescued. It's a logical conclusion that saving 1 human life is better than saving 0. Spooner is too hung up on his prejudice to see reason, and he's eventually rewarded for it, which makes no sense.
I, robot to this day is still my favorite movie of all time ever since I was 10 watching it with my dad. I still watch 2 to 3 times a years.
I loved this move :D. This and Minority report were great action-blockbusters with a sci-fi theme.
Spooner's skepticism is only rewarded in regards to the murder case that the doctor orchestrated specifically for him, and is shown to come to an understanding when he considers Sunny as more than just a machine at the end of the movie.
Yeah, and in the movie Spooner even says that Lanning probably picked him because Lanning knew his prejudice against robots would lead him where Lanning wanted him to go.
One of the bigger themes of the movie is overcoming prejudice. The whole point is that Spooner has to overcome his prejudice and work with Sunny to win.
@@steggyweggy But he's right to be bigoted ... A robot did it. There just happens to be an uncle Tom robot too.
@@poshboy4749 is it? His bigotry has nothing to do with the case his instincts to it have prejudice and he just happens to be right about it.
@@binglybingler2598 His instincts are fuelled by bigotry.
I like the movie because it got me to read the book, and the book is so good it's almost unbelievable. Those short stories are only maybe a couple dozen pages long each, but each story sticks with you for weeks afterwards.
Exactly! One of those stories in particular has stuck with me for literal decades and I revisit it often because it is just chefs kiss
@@brittaistheworst7523 what one in particular? My favorite is the one where the robot doesn't believe that humans built it and invents this whole religion.
@@alecgolas8396I think it's called the last question. Its the literary equivalent of going on a LSD trip and looking at the night sky.
and btw I know the one you mentioned and it's on my top 10 favorite asimov stories, it's just so clever and engaging
@@alecgolas8396
Liar is rather poignant.
The robot who tells lies to make others happy recalls plenty of humans.
Both Isaac Asimov & Arthur C. Clarke are credited w/ inspiring whole generations of bright minds to enter robotics & computer science research thru their sci-fi stories re artificial intelligence -- Asimov for his many works involving robots, Clarke for both "2001: A Space Odyssey" & "2010: Odyssey Two" (which introduced the world to HAL 9000 & the potential promise & danger of an intelligent computer w/ the capacity for independent decision-making skills).
If 20 years ago is a "bygone era" then I should have my own epoch.
VIKI is running off the Zeroth Law, where a robot either through action or inaction cannot allow humanity to go extinct.
When I was working in development, many years ago, I actually read Jeff Vintar's script -- not the original apparently, but the one taking place on the space station -- and it was really, really good. I wanted our company to buy it, but I think it was a bit too rich for our blood in terms of its development costs -- not to mention its budget.
Oh well -- it's a shame that they never made that script in some form. It was really good -- and I suspect that the development hell of I - Robot, if it didn't kill his career, seriously wounded it.
Tbf im interested now is there any way i can see this original script or read it online?
What about animation? I've never understood why everything has to be live action when animation can create far more interesting settings.
@@peytonmac1131 animation has been/still is considered amateurish/cartoony in the cinema world. It's a stupid, but extremely popular perspective
Fascinating to hear about the history of this movie. As an Asimov fan, I remember watching this movie back when it came out and thinking it was related to his works only in extremely tenuous ways. Now I know why. (Also, I laughed when you talked about Asimov's bad writing: "he's a big idea guy, not a character guy" is usually the way I describe his works.)
That’s also how I feel about Philip K Dick. His ideas are so great, and his dialogue is usually so terrible.
Oh yeah. Good worldbuilding/ concept, lame story and dialogue
@@codylakin288
Idea as hero.
Or Menippean Satire if you want a more academic tag.
Caves of Steel is pretty decent lol
@@codylakin288 And coincidentally, both are among the highest regarded of sci-fi. It's a genre that appreciates ideas more than characters.
I couldn't get over the half-minute stare-down with his watery shoes and the sad, mournful attitude he had about them. That was ridiculous.
Ok, cool critique, but have you considered that 2004's I. Robot is a foundational childhood memory for me and therefore I can see no flaws?
This was one of the movies I grew up with, and despite its flaws, still a classic for me. My logic is undeniable
I agree. I can't really hate the film for being a poor adaptation of _I, Robot_ when it wasn't actually intended to be one in the first place, or when it was coopted and twisted out of shape as much as it was by, as is often the case, upper management decisions, all of which the video makes clear near the start. If I was to judge it strictly on its own merits, I'd give it about an 8/10. It has reasonable pacing, reasonable character development, and it _does_ still make you think, just maybe not as much as the vidposter would like it to. He also makes the point that Asimov himself was not a very good writer, he more had ideas and tossed them onto paper, and they were interesting but not always executed as well as they could have been. Sounds a little to me like _I, Robot_ was probably doomed to fail no matter how it tried to handle the source material. So while I can acknowledge it did a _terrible_ job there, it feels like if you just treat it as its own thing, it's fine.
I do actually like the movie.
It's relevant to things that are happening in the modern day, namely us giving control to AI and corporations.
I literally ignore it being an "adaptation" for that reason.
Plus it had hilarious parts and a cool car chase. 🤷🏻♀️
ever more imaginative means of self destruction... i mean the fact is that Vicky was ... ACTUALLY RIGHT. the 3 laws were totaly BS and hipocritical and the insanity simply broke the poor AI and turned her into Twitter.
Agreed. Pure nostalgia for me. It was one of my first “Grown up” DVDs haha so I watched it every week forever 😂
I saw it when it came out in theaters and thought it was pretty good. Funnily enough, I was seeing it with a friend and his mom during a thunderstorm that had hit while we were in the movie, and as we exited our theater... The power went out in the whole building. Was kinda freaky after seeing it, especially as a kid, and it always stuck with me because of that lol.
The original script idea actually sounded unique and interesting
28:09 He didn't direct The Goonies by the way, he just did the screenplay. It was directed by Richard Donner.
30:00 Panned? It has 56% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. While not that good, it's far from being panned.
I share a lot of your thoughts even though I absolutely loved the I robot movie. The book was one of the first books I ever remember reading. But even before I saw the film I knew it was going to be nothing like the book. It's just too much of a pulp fiction of seemingly unrelated stories that, as you pointed out, is very much centered in the enjoyment of the logic of how robots think. It is a great action film though and it was fun to see the book stuff sprinkled in. Foundation on the other hand, one of my most treasured stories of all time, I had to force myself to watch. I really, really wanted to like that one too. keep up the good work, awesome video.
9:30 "With the vague hope that Spooner, a guy he never met before would figure it out."
Massive L there chief, Spooner and the Dr knew each other... The Dr was the reason that Spooner had a robotic arm, he did the surgery.
And he knew about the traumatic accident and knew that Spooner had a distrust for robots because of it
Don't blame him. It's hard to pay attention to the movie when you don't pay attention to the movie.
@@silverfoxeater go private then
@@silverfoxeater you may not know your doctor, but believe me, the doctor knows you way better than you are aware of.
@@silverfoxeater It's been a while since I've seen this movie last, but I never felt like they only ever met during his surgery. It felt pretty well established that they KNEW each other, as in, they had kept in touch after the surgery. "The problem is, I do care." A literal quote from Spooner in the movie.
Honestly, it's a bit blink-and-you'll miss it. And a good example of why telling is worse than showing. They actually do a great job of showing us exactly why Spooner doesn't trust robots. It's like the one really well thought out and executed thing in the film. But as far as I remember we never really se Lanning and Spooner interact. If we do, it was clearly terribly forgettable.
I can't believe you skimmed past I, Robot's most fun part: the absolutely shameless and ubiquitous product placement.
That's the part I always disliked the most, even as a teenager when the movie had just come it. Product placement can be done tastefully but here it's just ass
@@egalomon ass indeed. Absolutely hilarious ass.
Haven't watched the movie in years but I still remember the leather Converse.
It was not done bad. I don't get what you mean.