This Will Destroy Your Engine! - Cleaning Media From Honda CBX Cases
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- This process will destroy your engine if you do not clean it properly. Vapor blasting, sand blasting, or soda blasting is a very great process but all will leave behind blast media in hard to reach places. It is EXTREMELY important to get all of it out before you assemble or try to run your engine. In this video I focus on getting the media cleaned out of the Honda CBX cases and answer some viewer questions at the end.
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This is such an important step that I felt it was a great base for a standalone video. I hope it was informative! While re-recording the questions segment(too much rambling) I completely skipped over dry ice blasting. That is an awesome process great for assembled items like an engine. Definitely check the description for a cool video on that. The next CBX video will be painting the cases.
I've wondered what it would cost to dry ice blast an engine. Seems like such a great idea. Zero clean up or worry about blast media in the engine. Probably have to be Zuck to afford it though. lol
@donzimmer63 I haven't got a quote for it but I'd expect at least a few hundred. I know the equipment is extremely expensive
I know this is boring to some people but I'm a fan of attention to detail. I appreciate the effort.
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Great video! Cleaning EVERYTHING is so important! I know I am an OCD Cleaning Nerd, but you have to do it. Thank you, and Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
Its really important to have a very clean crankcase and engine parts before assembly. I have always spent ages cleaning and chasing threads, shining bolts and studs, this is basic and although boring and time consuming, to my mind its 60 per cent of what makes a great engine. well done. Good to see how much effort was put into this cleaning process.
Definitely the same. I hate the idea of spending so much time on a rebuild to have it ruined by something simple
As a restoration technician for a well-known auto restoration company, I saw way too many instances of engines being ruined by media, paint and other foreign items, including sockets and wrenches left inside!! These engines were brought to us after the client had them "restored" by a "professional" engine shop. SMH. Thanks for the video!!
😂 We had a RAM go in for Lifter failure, and it came back with a 10mm Snap-On tool.
Great video! Much attention needs to be paid to seemingly minor stuff like this, not good if an engine grenades due to overlooking steps that need to be taken when prepping/assembling a very expensive engine($4000 on my spare CBX engine in 1988-Carrillo rods, Arias pistons, sleeved block to 1268cc, boring cases, 10mm ARP studs, and a lot more.....!! This was cost of assembly 37 years ago.). Parts availability is almost dried up as well.
The CBX engine is an incredibly complex engine, know them in my sleep, and, if assembled carefully, will last as long as a factory issue engine. They are, like all Hondas, a very forgiving engine to a point. Best of luck with your build, gonna be a great runner!
Not boring, very precise! A job well done! Mama always said, "I don't care how long it takes you to do it right, don't make me have to go behind you!" You don't half ass do a job!! ❤ U Guys!
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To do things well, it's seldom quick🙁 but ultimately more rewarding 😎
I've noticed that everyone, no matter how many years of experience call pronounce oil galleys as galleries. I even catch myself doing it. LOL, really enjoy watching motorcycle repair videos as my experience is heavy diesel and automotive trucks.
Ive said gallies in the past and had 14,000 comments saying I was wrong. I prefer gallies
Tech Tip - install a "farm sink" faucet in whatever sink you have at the shop with hose tread on it. You may need to link a couple hoses together to get it out the back of the shop...but it beats a trip back home...IMHO. I added one to my laundy tub so I could have hot and cold water outside. Much nicer to wash a car or bike in Nov in Michigan if you can run hot/warm water out there.
I really enjoy watching your work and I appreciate your creativity. If I were your teacher, I would give you an A+. You would make a great engineer.
On the topic of using abrasive media to clean engine parts, I would like to offer what I learned while working for a company that makes jet engines. Abrasive blast media is harder than the steel used in bearings. If abrasive media (A.K.A. hard particle contamination) is present in the engine lube system, the bearings in the engine will suffer a significant reduction in life. It also is harmful to interfacing surfaces of moving parts. Aluminum is a soft material and if you spray abrasive media on it, small particles of the grit will become embedded in the exposed surfaces. A material lab. engineer once told me that it is impossible to completely remove imbedded grit contamination. A Rule of Thumb (ROT) to follow is, engine oil wetted surfaces should never come in contact with sprayed abrasive materials. I note that you are aware of keeping the lube system clean is super important. You did as good a job as is possible to clean the inner engine areas. I would just go one step further and not let the inner engine surfaces become exposed to grit blast in the first place.
It's refreshing to hear you guys referring to the "galleries" and "welch plugs". I like the work you guys are doing. Keep it up. 👍
Those plugs were put there for just that reason. Good job of pointing this out. Media blasting is a great tool but You really need to clean up the cleaning or suffer the results! Don't ask how I know LOL!
Vapour blasting leaves such a great finish on aluminium but can be expensive to out source. I understand though as the equipment is expensive to buy and it can be time consuming. Enjoyed the video as always.
Hello gents from the UK .loving the wooden cleaning bench quality. Nice see you guys back on with the CBX . i had CBX 1000 back in the day in red great bike.
Without cleaning out media; you've got nothing but bling.
Gotta love how the smooth jazz kicks in just as the bore scope goes in..
another benefit of some blasting media like wallnut shells is that it introduces less heat into the part, preventing significant warping in things like sheet metal and car body panels.
Very true
Those caps were put there for exactly that reason. Good job of talking about that. You can trash a rebuild in seconds by not cleaning after media blasting! Don't ask Me how I know LOL!
I definitely want to avoid that!
Same I destroyed my Yamaha xj 65o engine that way! 😮
@@karlvanboxel561i had a xj650 and a xj750 both good bikes the 750 better pulling power😊
Worth every minute spent. Those things are precious. Thanks
Love the elevator / waiting room music during the inspection!😀
Question: That yellow comptessor, 7,5 fp....What voltage do you have and how many amps? I know you can do a lot with capacitors, but, how can you run that on single phase?? OK, now I saw the whole technical plate,, 34.5 amps 220 volts requires a large cc cable 🙂 Big thanks for an awesome video!!
Really enjoyed this video. Tho I know "in depth" cleaning is super boring, it's so definitely necessary! Thanks for all the info and heads-up points. I learn a lot every time I watch you .... so thank you! Great video! A+++++
That was not boring scoping the oil galleries! That is attention to detail! I bought the scope you are using because you used it and looked easy to use! I have used the scope, and it is very easy to use and a great tool in the toolbox. Thank you for the description of the sand blasting and water vaping!
Awesome!
I like the idea of organizing the video types how you did
I'm hoping it will help make things clear for people. I have a variety of videos so this give more structure
Hey BJ, I pray you get infinite views ,truly entertaining content. I only like to see bhb and the stanceworks channel with dedication, because it is entertaining and informative at the same time.Hope the rest of the cbx build goes without hiccups.❤
Great idea with the icons. Your content & it's production is first rate....kudos 👏👏
Very thorough job cleaning up the cases. Thanks for sharing and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Years back I had a cb900 which I stripped and re built. Some blasting media was stuck in the bottom of the cam bearing threaded holes. I re built the motor and tightened down the cam cap bolts and dink it broke out the bottom of the hole. Had to re strip the motor and head, get it welded and start again.
Definitely a excellent video!! Contrary to your statement that watching the boroscope would be boring, it was actually extremely interesting. Was really glad to see you take so much care with the engine. I could only dream of having a shop like yours to work in. Good job and video. Thanks for the very good content!!
Glad you enjoyed!
great vid guys! and I like the idea of the icons so we know what we're in for! granted, I'm just gonna watch them all anyway...
After pulling all engine case plugs I blast all the gallies with a garden hose then compressed air
Great job on the Q&A BJ!
Loved this one, imparting knowledge is always greatly appreciated.
Great video, don't get to see the oil galleries from the inside often. Actually this is the first time :)
I have the same sandblasting cabinet and also the same issue. As soon as I pull the trigger the inside just turns into a huge dust cloud and you can't see anything. So I have stopped using it for that reason until I find a solution to the dust cloud. Looks like you found one. Can you tell me make and model so I can buy one for my cabinet.
This video was very useful.
Cheers
The dust collector came from jegs but doesn't seem like higher quality than Amazon. You should be able to find something with a search. So far this works well but felt too expensive
I do a lot of vapour blasting and find that after blasting I blow everything out then submerge the part in a tub of water and blow it out and, clean out the tub and repeat until you see no media in the bottom of the tub
Excellent video, really appreciate the details. Looking forward to more video as the CBX comes together.
Listen you two! .... .... Crap, forgot what I was going to say. Thanks for a great video.
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I watched a mechanics video where the subject was cleaning engine parts. One specialist mentioned a method called the agitation method which I used on my FZ 961 engine build Basically removed all gallery plugs as yu did I used hot water and a strong alkaline degreaser I sun merged each case half I this let it soak a bit and then with a copper extension on my air gun blew thru all the passages in both directions a water in it’s agitated form seems to b a very good way of loostening crap up Also I found it rather extraordinary that there was machining burrs in some of the cross overs in the oil galleries a piece of emery cloth wrapped around an appropriately sized steel rod and electric drill sorted that and smoothed the oil flow rather an oversight I’d suggest Adore the CBX complex piece of kit but that look and sound r tops gd work
Thats ultrasonic cleaning. I do that daily as well but you need a gigantic tank to fit a case like this
@ Not ultrasonic different but effective for engine cases
When you get to it, careful tightening those upper case gallery plugs. The aluminum can be very thin and it doesn't take much more than hand tight to break them.
You used my question!!!! ❤ All your stuff is great. Thank you so much for all the information and inspiration you share.
Twas a great question!
Did you use your Cresant (sp?) wrench backwards on the oil filter housing? I read that the load should go on the low side of the sliding part. Love your videos. Cool to see old bikes get running again.
I'm a rebel
@@BrickHouseBuilds without a cause, care or clue? I have a 75 CL360 I wish you could work on. I can't get it to run right, I'm not as good as you by a long ways!
Tho not as much fun as "barn finding" an old CB, this video was very interesting and loaded with useful tips! Really enjoyed!!! A+++++
Tried to edit my first post. Another added benefit is more air volume.
Meticulous attention to detail, well done both of you, that is going to be a really nice build when it's done 👍
@@pricklypunter thank ya
I would like to buy a bike you restored. I have bought some that had nightmare bodges😢.
For soda blasting is to use food grade baking soda. It seams to last longer and not as hygroscopic as blasting soda.
Always great videos hands at work. Thank you ..!!
Great video, just curious what grade of glass bead do you use in your vapour hone? it looks pretty fine. I've recently picked up a smallish sand blasting cabinet and was considering using soda in it but now I'm reconsidering that, thanks for the info!
Would it be feasible to block the galleries with something like the silicone plugs used in powder coating to prevent the blasting media ingress?
It would help but you would still want to thoroughly confirm
13:25 okay, that was a good one!
At shop's I worked at we had a Cuda parts cleaner. A heavy duty washing machine. Would remove paint and carbon on valves still installed in the aluminum heads. Parts came out looking like new. Just used detergent and hot water.
These had already been jet washed before we started. Still had media to get out
The oil galleries seem to have large diameters, what is the oil pressure?
It will vary between 30 and 80 id say
Great video, very comprehensive and informative. Thank you for making it!
Very good information BJ. Thanks.
Great work fellas.
Thank ya!
Is the gunk from not changing the oil or bad oil?
Thr exterior of the engine had been painted and was just very dirty
I did all the same to my kz restoration and still worrying I missed something 😢
Ill still be very paranoid on startup lol
Would a good and long ultrasonic bath help in disolving the remanents of soda that get stuck or wont disolve as easy?
@@karras6239 If soda is compacted in a small area, it likely won't dissolve. That's been my experience many times after ultrasonic cleaning
Those are some fairly early cases by the Imperial date stamp. 53 8. 10 is August 10, 1978
Correct
5,000 miles, or 50,000 miles, that is the question .... whether tis nobeler in the end to ride one day sooner, or to detail a day, and ride for years with no misgivings ??
Can you used an aggressive media and adjust the air pressure to achieve the same result as a milder media with the desired goal of using one media for multiple purposes.
I believe so yes
Will the use of a softer media, like walnut shells, help this problem? Then, any traces of leftover media wouln't be hard enough to damage engine internals?
...or Plastic media.
Again, this is just for engine internals. I probably would not ever use anything besides soda for carb internals.
Hard or not, blocked oil pathways will kill an engine
@@BrickHouseBuilds ahhh...gotcha. I thought maybe residual media would eat up bearing surfaces, ring bores. It seems like blocked oil passages is the main killer.
@scottcates Yes, hard media will damage quicker but any media is bad if left behind. There are no shortcuts
I'm just curious why not pull these items before vapor blasting and sand blasting?
The goal is to not blast media into those areas
I audibly heard you say you were visually looking 😂
@@gravydavy4188 i mentally processed your visual comment on hearing my sight
@BrickHouseBuilds 😂😂
Ok. Sometimes, life gives you lemon, and you make limonade. Sometimes life just throw you the lemon tree in the face with roots front, and you go to hospital. And sometimes, like today, when you rebuilt your engine and start thinking:"oh , wait, how do I remove all the"cleaning stuff"off my pieces?", the universe smile to you and tells you: JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO. Thank you so much!
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If you want a guaranteed no residue "blasting" you should try baking soda blasting. It just dissolve in water...
Definitely watch through the end
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good effort
Not sure if I would describe a screwdriver as a spanner.
Hopefully that didn't ruin the video for ya 😁
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things you can say about your engine block but not your girlfriend 🤣 (bore scope)
Try blasting with calcium carbonate vapor blast instead of sand or beads. Calcium carbonate dissolves in water so it can be washed away completely.
Definitely watch to the end
Very tidy!
How about “visually check”? 😂
Ironic TLC didn’t want no scrubs, but tlc needs scrubs
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What are you going to do with the cbx when done
Ride into the sunset at full throttle to a symphony of 6 cylinders 😎
Just remember to turn around and come back as there is other work to be done and videos to be made.
CBX, i don't want to miss anything🥸
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