Love my RS and the most fun bike I've had so far and sounds great with the standard exhaust (I'll keep if it really ain't that much difference), recognise the roads around bath too.
I feel the same way, rode one with the Arrow and it took away from the sweet sweet induction noise. Standard pipe is staying, just needs a tune to uncork it from the Euro4 tune.
Great detailed info. The new triples are amazing bikes. I enjoy hearing about the differences of the r and rs. How do you feel about the tires on the rs, do they hold up fairly well on the street for durability? I know they are not gonna get the miles of a harder tire, but charlie i believe said he had over 4000miles on the bike. I was wondeeing how much tread is left and how well those soft corsa tires have held up? Also is the r as easily tuned as the rs in terms of mapping?
Hello everyone, I own a RS since new and looked into all full after market exhausts. Did a lot of research on dyno runs with various full exhausts and fueling set ups. Did notice that with any aftermarket set ups I would loose a little low end power and torque. After running the numbers of cost for the complete set up it would be in the area of $2300.00. Weight saving would be aprox. 13lbs. and 9HP on gain over stock. My bike wet weight is 421lbs. at a trucking scale, not as light as I figured, especially after all sites claim that this is a light weight for a middle weight bike. My GSX-R750 weight is 416lbs. and surprised that it was lighter than the RS. When Triumph always gave dry weight and couldn't find anything on site with the wet weight I kind of new there was going to be a surprise. I believe that is why Triumph always gives a dry weight instead of a curb or wet weight. This is a good all around bike, canyon city and tracking. This bike is in no way a great track bike. I will end up keeping the bike and logged over 18,000mi. on her since new. Looking for a better oriented track bike down the road. I ride the GSX-R750 5sec. lap time faster than the RS. The GSX-R750 is more of a track bike as well as a canyon bike! Hope this comment helps answer any questions! I track at Chuckwalla and Big Willow.
@mirlin235 Can't recall why I wrote this comment, I'm sure it had to do with the video and other comments. I sold my bike 6 month's ago, started having issues with sporadic running issues as well as when I purchased the bike had detent issues which was taken care of. Parts over in the U.S. are expensive and my reason for purchasing the bike in the beginning was to canyon ride and tracking. The drivers don't pay attention to bikers here in San Diego. Way to dangerous. The weight thing came from seeing a lot of comments about the bike being a track weapon and being very light. The bike is not a good track bike and definitely not light. A good friend had a earlier model and the wet weight was 401lbs. I had no idea that my newer model was 20lbs. heavier. I am a upper intermediate tracker and wanted something lighter. Rear sets are very expensive and there's only 1 company that makes them that fit right as far as I know. The quick shifter is like driving a dump truck, very jerky while shifting. A good friend rode my bike at the track, was top 20 riders in the U.S. didn't like the quick shifter which came out of gear twice, could be scary on a track as well. The bike was my next step up the ladder to getting closer to tracking a GSX-R750 which is a totally different bike. Very solid and planted. I do realize the bike is a up right bike and thought I could get use to the riding position, which I couldn't get comfortable. Being comfortable on a bike is the key to owning a good bike especially using it for tracking as well. The RS even though I rode on the freeways to get to the canyons was a sail even though I had purchased a extension of the wind screen. The bike suited my purpose at that time, learning a great deal and went to the next level. I just purchased a GSX-R1000R and this bike is the best bike I have owned so far. The bike out turns and handles better than my old GSX-R750 which my son has. Fantastic mileage, 45MPG in the canyons and don't have to down shift as often due to engine torque. I won't be tracking this bike and looking for a used 750 for tracking. Hope this answered your question. Be safe and remember speed is used on the tracks, not on the roads. Any monkey can drive fast in a straight!!!
I'm surprised the R has such good power numbers, by comparison. I'm also surprised about the power loss and underwhelming sound change from the slip-on. At Parcmotor, a 675 rider had only a slip-on on his and it sounded pretty sweet...thought it would be the same with the triple 765. And, the quickshifter isn't really as beneficial as I once thought, when you can easily shift with throttle on, without the clutch, by an eighth twist-back with your throttle hand. Really looking forward to seeing what Triumph does with the Daytona 765!
Not confirmed officially, sadly. We'd say go for the RS for the reasons stated, a few quid on a decent can and fuelling upgrades and you'll get back a lot of the torque and midrange power it loses to the R, and the suspension can be softened off for more road use.
Zodd412 Triumph's owner has said, ever so subtly, it's coming. It WOULD be really weird if they don't make it, since Triumph is providing the engine for 2018 Moto 2. It think it's safe to expect a 2019 model. But, they have shown, with the phasing out of both the RC8 and the Daytona, a trend away from supersports. So, if one comes, I think we can expect the return of both classes in the coming years.
Fantastic video. Just picked one up but here in Canada have to wait till late April before the salt disappears Just wanted to know the brand of the higher wind screen?
With regard to the exhaust Triumph UK themselves state that the EU Arrow is actually more restrictive than the OEM item (which ties in with the 2bhp you have lost on the dyno) and only gives an improvement in weight (a 2kg reduction). If you want something less restrictive, then go for the US spec Arrow (with the removable baffle), which not having to comply with the EU noise regulations is considerably louder (and another fraction lighter - probably due to running less internal baffling).
Great video guys thank you. I bought an rs on the summer and am absolutely in love with it. But I am not engineering minded can you briefly explain how removing the exhaust and catalytic and remapping the engine would improve the performance (and where would I look to get this done???)
The standard exhaust has several CATs inside it at various points, at least two, these restrict the flow of spent gases from the engine - if you have a more open system they move faster, and power increases, in layman's terms! When you get the fuelling done, it can increase the efficiency of how the engine burns and, again, more efficiency means more power, a better throttle connection, improved throttle response and so on and so forth.
Shame you never got a chance to fiddle with mapping on the RS. Really interested to see if it would have matched the R in lower down power, because as it stands, I would chose the R over the RS simply because I never go to the track.
You mentioned in the video that you'r ridden at Castle Combe, did it get through the sound check easily? I ride my RX there but just a bit concerned about the extra induction noise from the newer bike.
Fast Bikes Magazine agreed, just seems to me they have missed out on an opportunity to capitalize on the red hot super naked market. Maybe their strategy is to let Yamaha, BMW, Ducati, Aprilia and KTM battle it out and then leap frog all of them with a stunning update of the Speed Triple in 2019! We can only hope that’s the plan!
Love my RS and the most fun bike I've had so far and sounds great with the standard exhaust (I'll keep if it really ain't that much difference), recognise the roads around bath too.
I feel the same way, rode one with the Arrow and it took away from the sweet sweet induction noise. Standard pipe is staying, just needs a tune to uncork it from the Euro4 tune.
RS is stunning, best handling I've experienced for many years over many bikes, scalpel sharp...thankyou triumphxxx
pro tip: you can watch series at Flixzone. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies during the lockdown.
@Jamal Conor yea, I have been watching on flixzone} for years myself :D
Great detailed info. The new triples are amazing bikes. I enjoy hearing about the differences of the r and rs. How do you feel about the tires on the rs, do they hold up fairly well on the street for durability? I know they are not gonna get the miles of a harder tire, but charlie i believe said he had over 4000miles on the bike. I was wondeeing how much tread is left and how well those soft corsa tires have held up? Also is the r as easily tuned as the rs in terms of mapping?
Hello everyone, I own a RS since new and looked into all full after market exhausts. Did a lot of research on dyno runs with various full exhausts and fueling set ups. Did notice that with any aftermarket set ups I would loose a little low end power and torque. After running the numbers of cost for the complete set up it would be in the area of $2300.00. Weight saving would be aprox. 13lbs. and 9HP on gain over stock. My bike wet weight is 421lbs. at a trucking scale, not as light as I figured, especially after all sites claim that this is a light weight for a middle weight bike. My GSX-R750 weight is 416lbs. and surprised that it was lighter than the RS. When Triumph always gave dry weight and couldn't find anything on site with the wet weight I kind of new there was going to be a surprise. I believe that is why Triumph always gives a dry weight instead of a curb or wet weight. This is a good all around bike, canyon city and tracking. This bike is in no way a great track bike. I will end up keeping the bike and logged over 18,000mi. on her since new. Looking for a better oriented track bike down the road. I ride the GSX-R750 5sec. lap time faster than the RS. The GSX-R750 is more of a track bike as well as a canyon bike! Hope this comment helps answer any questions! I track at Chuckwalla and Big Willow.
@mirlin235 Can't recall why I wrote this comment, I'm sure it had to do with the video and other comments. I sold my bike 6 month's ago, started having issues with sporadic running issues as well as when I purchased the bike had detent issues which was taken care of. Parts over in the U.S. are expensive and my reason for purchasing the bike in the beginning was to canyon ride and tracking. The drivers don't pay attention to bikers here in San Diego. Way to dangerous. The weight thing came from seeing a lot of comments about the bike being a track weapon and being very light. The bike is not a good track bike and definitely not light. A good friend had a earlier model and the wet weight was 401lbs. I had no idea that my newer model was 20lbs. heavier. I am a upper intermediate tracker and wanted something lighter. Rear sets are very expensive and there's only 1 company that makes them that fit right as far as I know. The quick shifter is like driving a dump truck, very jerky while shifting. A good friend rode my bike at the track, was top 20 riders in the U.S. didn't like the quick shifter which came out of gear twice, could be scary on a track as well. The bike was my next step up the ladder to getting closer to tracking a GSX-R750 which is a totally different bike. Very solid and planted. I do realize the bike is a up right bike and thought I could get use to the riding position, which I couldn't get comfortable. Being comfortable on a bike is the key to owning a good bike especially using it for tracking as well. The RS even though I rode on the freeways to get to the canyons was a sail even though I had purchased a extension of the wind screen. The bike suited my purpose at that time, learning a great deal and went to the next level. I just purchased a GSX-R1000R and this bike is the best bike I have owned so far. The bike out turns and handles better than my old GSX-R750 which my son has. Fantastic mileage, 45MPG in the canyons and don't have to down shift as often due to engine torque. I won't be tracking this bike and looking for a used 750 for tracking. Hope this answered your question. Be safe and remember speed is used on the tracks, not on the roads. Any monkey can drive fast in a straight!!!
I'm surprised the R has such good power numbers, by comparison. I'm also surprised about the power loss and underwhelming sound change from the slip-on. At Parcmotor, a 675 rider had only a slip-on on his and it sounded pretty sweet...thought it would be the same with the triple 765. And, the quickshifter isn't really as beneficial as I once thought, when you can easily shift with throttle on, without the clutch, by an eighth twist-back with your throttle hand. Really looking forward to seeing what Triumph does with the Daytona 765!
I´m even more torn between the 2 models now :/
Btw is it confirmed that they are bringing the Daytone up to 765?
Not confirmed officially, sadly. We'd say go for the RS for the reasons stated, a few quid on a decent can and fuelling upgrades and you'll get back a lot of the torque and midrange power it loses to the R, and the suspension can be softened off for more road use.
Zodd412 Triumph's owner has said, ever so subtly, it's coming. It WOULD be really weird if they don't make it, since Triumph is providing the engine for 2018 Moto 2. It think it's safe to expect a 2019 model. But, they have shown, with the phasing out of both the RC8 and the Daytona, a trend away from supersports. So, if one comes, I think we can expect the return of both classes in the coming years.
Cerebral Method still no daytona sadly...
Fantastic video. Just picked one up but here in Canada have to wait till late April before the salt disappears
Just wanted to know the brand of the higher wind screen?
With regard to the exhaust Triumph UK themselves state that the EU Arrow is actually more restrictive than the OEM item (which ties in with the 2bhp you have lost on the dyno) and only gives an improvement in weight (a 2kg reduction). If you want something less restrictive, then go for the US spec Arrow (with the removable baffle), which not having to comply with the EU noise regulations is considerably louder (and another fraction lighter - probably due to running less internal baffling).
Great video guys thank you. I bought an rs on the summer and am absolutely in love with it. But I am not engineering minded can you briefly explain how removing the exhaust and catalytic and remapping the engine would improve the performance (and where would I look to get this done???)
The standard exhaust has several CATs inside it at various points, at least two, these restrict the flow of spent gases from the engine - if you have a more open system they move faster, and power increases, in layman's terms! When you get the fuelling done, it can increase the efficiency of how the engine burns and, again, more efficiency means more power, a better throttle connection, improved throttle response and so on and so forth.
Thanks for the answer, I might get in touch in the spring
Shame you never got a chance to fiddle with mapping on the RS. Really interested to see if it would have matched the R in lower down power, because as it stands, I would chose the R over the RS simply because I never go to the track.
You mentioned in the video that you'r ridden at Castle Combe, did it get through the sound check easily? I ride my RX there but just a bit concerned about the extra induction noise from the newer bike.
According to the CC lot, most Euro4 bikes have passed through okay (as this did), while they still have trouble with many Euro 3 and earlier machines.
Perfect, thank you :)
Can someone explain why power decreased but torque increased. Shouldn't the relationship be direct other than inverse? Thanks for the vlog.
Thank you for the amazing video! Keep going sir
Really interesting, thanks! Do you know if and when Triumph plans to update the Speed Triple?
We do hope so, it's needed a brand new (read way way way lighter) engine for a good few years now. Still a good bike mind you.
Fast Bikes Magazine agreed, just seems to me they have missed out on an opportunity to capitalize on the red hot super naked market. Maybe their strategy is to let Yamaha, BMW, Ducati, Aprilia and KTM battle it out and then leap frog all of them with a stunning update of the Speed Triple in 2019! We can only hope that’s the plan!
22:43 YES, the info I was looking for 👍🏻
Just a clarification,sorry...the power delivered ,is to the rear wheel or to the shaft? Thank you...
To the wheel.
Is this about bike or the rider on the r6?
So You prefer Street RS than 2017 Speed R ? Why? Reg. Pawel
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this dude sounds completely unimpressed even as he utters "brilliant" in every sentence.
You have to be 4 foot 9 to ride those pocket bikes ,jockey size bikes do not do it for me.
My days.. This is not up to normal standards... Proper yawn