Triumph Thunderbird / TT Legend, Top End Rebuilt, Stick Coils Upgrade !
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2021
- Assembled the top end, and upgraded to Stick Coils too. !
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Me: Bike’s done
Del: Today we are going to rebuild the brakes.
Me: *rebuilds brakes* bike’s done
Del: Today we are going to paint the forks and yoke assembly
Me: *paints the fork and yoke assembly* bike’s done
Del: today we are going to customize the chain gaurd
Me: wow, nice job, but, bike’s still done
Del: today we are going to upgrade the ignition with new coil packs
Me: dammit all to hell, HONEY, WHERE DID YOU HIDE MY WALLET THIS TIME?
So sorry for this, it's not intentional, but myself and my wife would like to humbly deny any responsibility for your husband's spending Mrs 'Edward'... but we can assure you it will come to an end eventually, and there will be a short break until we start the next project!... ;-)
Great to see the Triumph getting complete again, step by step. Thanks from Nürnberg, Günter
Thank you Günter, glad you enjoyed the video, side casings go on next, then the motor will be complete!
Bought a 2001 Sportster several years ago and after watching your video's, I decided to buy a lift table and start doing my own maintenance. Love doing it myself. Could not do it without your videos. Thanks so much and keep them coming.
Great work Del
The bike is certainly looking really smart now
Looking forward to the first start up and shake down ride
Nick
You are my mentor. I learned everything about working on my Triumph from you. I appreciate your meticulous approach and your crafty problem solving. Job's done. I am but a monkeyboy. Thank you sir for your videos.
Lovely job Del. Cant wait to hear it run.😎👍🏍
I spent all day fixing things and now i just watched you fixing things .. :)
Nice relaxing video..Cheers
Sounds like the Perfect day mate !
Stripped down the carbs on my Thunderbird Sport recently, the vid was invaluable to complete that process, many thanks Delboy. Graham
Two-funnels-tastic mate! I had an epiphany a few years back - I bought Slinky Glide clutch cable for my Blade when Fowlers had the OEM one on back order - thinking I'd put OEM back on when it turned up - I realised however when it finally arrived that the Slinky was actually better quality and not just half the price - been using and will use their cables ever since! Great job. Go safe!
Hi Mike, that's been my experience too with Slinky Glide, a few viewers are saying they've had issues, but personally, like you, mine have always been a quality upgrade over the standard and a better price, best of both worlds, but then we always know that OEM stuff can be overpriced purely because they can get away with it, but let's not go there aye lol Keep safe and well there and ride safe.
Rather satisfying video after stressful start to the week placing orders for my second bike looking forward to the next one enjoy the rest of your week ride safe both of you
Glad you enjoyed the video Malcolm, have a good week and keep smiling mate!
You must have the patience of a saint. The air was blue when I did mine. 👍
Perfection. There are days I'm So Dizzy, I cant do a Single thing right on these bikes. Then another Day? I throw ALL the bolts up in the air ( and they all go Zoop! Zoop ! ZOOP!!! into their respective homes.) I win. you Def WON one this day! First time Viewer. Dave 74 Rd 350 , 03 Tbird 08 KTM 300 Boulder CO USA
Thank you for your kind words Dave, and welcome aboard Sir..
@@Moonfleet41 Aw Shoot, Turns Out I HAVE watched your Vids ( and Feel your T3 pain). I was to ask about the Fiddly TINY carb inline filter, but you showed us In VID " Project Finale! 'FIRE UP! I usually Source my Tbird Sports parts through ADEPT powersports, USA. I will be Doing Coils/ wires..as well as Carb / Choke O ring rebuild this week. I just wish I could Get GT 85 from them! You're my new " Dealer" Subscribed!
@@davestrain9529 Welcome aboard Sir.. and have fun wit the bike.
Service of the highest quality and whimsical congratulations.
Thank you kindly!
Really looking good now, Del! Obvious to see that thinking out all those step-by-step details, beforehand, pays big dividends in how things come back together so seamlessly. Still got piles of snow around here, but it's acting a lot like Spring...riding again very soon! Cheers and good health to you both!
Hi Allen, Great to hear from you, Thank you for those kind words, it's coming together slowly and really happy with it now. Glad you're seeing the first buds of spring, we'll all be out in the sunshine again soon aye. Take care and keep everyone safe sir.. D&Pxx
Nicely done, Del. You’ve certainly made me think back fondly on some of my old carb Harleys. Miss those non-injected days... Hope you guys are staying safe there! 🏍👍🏍
Hi Gary, totally agree, sometimes the modern world loses it's charm, always prefer a carb engine... have a great week and ride safe too! D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 yessir- time to ride soon enough! 😎
You make it look too easy. Love it 👍🏍️
Thanks John 👍 as I always say, practice and passion!
Del boy, totally enjoying this channel. I can see a lot happening to my 95 Tbird. Thanks for the tips and the knowledge share. The Legend looks amazing ! Well done!
Thanks Stu 👍, so good to hear you enjoy the videos, and perhaps some inspriation for your own bike... have fun and enjoy your projects, ride safe mate, Del
Always look forward to seeing a new video.had myself a good laugh at the FRO videos at the weekend and my bike is up and running as if it was new with the upgraded sprag clutch can’t wait to finally put some miles on the clock
Keep up the good work 👍
Congratulations on getting your bike ready mate, summer's coming and it looks like finally this lock down is coming to an end... ride safe!
Well thank you maybe one day I’ll call down your neck of the woods and visit you and your other half and see your nice new garage I can’t wait to see this bike finally finished looking great and what a fantastic job you have done 👍
Great to see the use of ptfe spray on those plug caps. Makes the job so much easier next time. The bikes looking lovely mate. Good work.
Thanks buddy, made it so easy to slip them together..
OOOOhhh! at 14'05" !! GT 85! Lovely smell..worked at a Bike shop and we were a dealer LOOONg time ago. I see the only real way I can get it is overseas. I used to coat it on everything. I used to coat up and spray my sandwich at lunch break.
They turned out outstanding...great job, you are the spray can king
Thanks Dave 👍, it's no more than practice and this particular product does make it rather easy!
Brilliant as ever Del. I was going to do my carb rebuild after watching yours but needed to press ahead so bit the bullet. Sucess, my Tbird now goes like S**t off a stick. I did have a little chuckle, you've taken such care so far but those carbs couldve done with a clean....rusty screw heads 🤔 still watching with interest. Inspired me to tackle valve clearences👍
Just didn't have any of those little screws, I wouldn't replace them with the same thing anyway, so they'd be M3 stainless cap heads and I simply don't have any, but a piece of cake to replace later on one at a time, minor issue mate... thanks for watching!
Dell, You are seriously talented....very well done, I am waiting for the clutch inspection.
Thank you!
Thank you very much Steven, next video mate!
A very nice job Delboy like you said with no scratches that’s the important part is the looks and performance have a good break can’t wait for the next video all the best Tony
it's nice to see it all going back so precise and being an auto-electrician good to see the connections getting a clean before reassembly as always take care great video all the best
Thanks Paul, glad you approve, learned from bitter experience that hours can be lost scratch your head trying to find a fault and ending up with it just being a gungy plug!...
@@Moonfleet41 too true cant remember the amount of times ive been called to look at a non starter after someones changed components on a engine and its turned out to be a dirty connection
hi del you always make it look easy as 1 2 3 nice video, great camera work penny
Nice shout out for Paul Messenger, met him on a Clive Wood workshop day, awesome guy...
Master work! Love it !
Great video del fantastic job them casings came out really nice especially seeing they were done with a spray can stay safe both of you looking forward to next video 🇬🇧👍
Thanks buddy 👍, should be online Thursday evening, all being well, in time for the Easter weekend!
@@Moonfleet41 nice one 👍
That's some fine paint work.
great video brother as always 👍👍👍 very relaxing to watch ! the bike is looking sick !! awesome !! stay safe guys cheers from new york !!! and remember 1 million subs coming soon !!!
Hey Brother, hope life is good, thank you for your kind words on the bike, we're happy with the progress! Enjoy the weekend and both keep safe, D&Px
Can’t believe the finish on those engine cases. So much better than the original ‘dapple’.
Thanks Tom, happy with the outcome.
Wow! Really Kwel!! Can’t wait see it run!! I imagine you’re anxious too!! Clutch up next, wondered what’s look like!! I’m working on my 86 1100 shadow.. hopefully get some ideas from you!!
Hi buddy, yes indeed, gonna drop the plates out for an inspection, I'm assuming they're gonna be fine and am quite interested to see the tandem clutch pack system that these are designed with, they have a spring loaded double steel plate in the middle so it almost acts like a twin plate clutch in a car... I've always known about them, but never seen one stripped... anyway, fingers crossed, it should all be fine!
@@Moonfleet41 .. I’d be watching ya!! Been finding things interesting whenever you strip something. I’m sure clutch looks good like the carbs.
Another good video Del & Penny. Nice work mate, looking good with the coil pack upgrade. Have a great week and stay safe. Cheers
Thanks, you too mate, keep safe there and enjoy the sunshine!
Yup, enjoyed that very much.. Thanks again :)
Glad you’ve done this. I’m after one of these. 👍🏻
(P) Well done team DBG, nicely done & a day early too! Now time for a ride 😀
Cheers mate, trying to bring things forward this week, then normal times next week, hopefully give us a few days off the weekend and we may even fit a ride in... keep the clan safe mate, and have a great week! D&Px
Good tip on the rocker cover del 👍
Excellent technique. Thank you.
Really enjoyed that with me cup of tea and cake thanks del
Tea and cake, there's a man after my own heart!
I don't like hearing birds the second time... Means it's over. Like watching you too much. Nice work
Wow thanks buddy, that's very kind, really appreciate such dedication!
Everything done the right way , great video as always
Thanks buddy 👍, it was an enjoyable job!
Nice del,wish i had them skills.👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺🍺
It's just practice and a passion mate (and being skint so can't afford garages!)
Thabks for the video. Hope you are both doing really good.
Yes we are mate, keeping safe and lock down will be over soon, hoping you're the same there?
Hi Del nice to see room to get those carb rubbers back on the carbs and air box 👍 take care
Sure thing mate, went together really nicely.. Have a good week mate, chat soon..
Great job, enjoyable to watch!!
Perfect Like a glove 👌🏼
So on the T bird cam cover you don’t use RTV in the corners when fitting a new gasket ?
Those look like the same denso coils on my ZX9r. ✌🏻. Experiences always vary. I didn’t have a positive one with Slinky Glide. The clutch cable was 3 cm too short and the throttle cables wouldn’t smoothly run through their casing without binding terribly. Wemoto was good for a refund on the clutch cable and by the time I discovered the throttle cable issue I just said forget it and didn’t bother.
Sorry to hear that mate, possibly a bad batch as I've fitted dozens of them over the years and they've always been better than what was on the bike before and performed perfectly well down the line... hope you're keeping safe there and starting to enjoy some sunshine!!
Hi! What brand of silicone rubber grease should i buy? And/or, is there a non "rubber" silicone grease that work with rubber without scrap it?
You made installing those carbs look REAL easy. Why do so many people moan about it? Try it on a vfr before complaining is what I always say 🤣
Pulling it together nicely 👌 mate.
That's an incredible bike!!! I'm impressed with your attention to detail and that you show everything your doing. I hate "Cut to's" without explanation of what happened! I have a 2000 Thunderbird 900 and I want the coil pack set you have there, how may I obtain this much needed upgrade??
Hi mate, these coils were custom made by a friend of mine, he doesn't market them as a product, but he is a traditional old school biker who believes in supporting the community, so if you ask him nicely, he'll make you some for a price I'm sure... check him out, he's Paul Messenger on Facebook (his avatar is him with a yellow Triumph)... tell him 'Del says Hi!'
@@Moonfleet41 You are awesome!!!!!
Hi Del, hope your well on the mend. I've just received my coil pack from Paul Messenger for my 95 T Bird. Nice bloke to deal with. Its going for a service next week. Summer is coming and can't wait to get out on it. Thanks for the tip on the coils mate.
Most welcome Mark, glad you decided to upgrade the coils, they're total simplicity to fit, and yeah, you're right, Paul is a legend aye.. ! Have fun with it and ride safe mate.. Del.
Hi Del and Penny,
Bike serviced, coils fitted, she's running sweet as a nut. Money will spend on coils 👍
# well spent
@@markyoung8545 Great news Paul, sounds like you're all good to go! Ride safe, D&Px
Great finish on those casings Del!
Thanks buddy 👍, happy with the outcome!
Another fantastic video really enjoyed that keep going
I need some help I have a 2000 triumph tt900 and one of the head cover bolts popped out while riding and it stripped out the threads any tips on how to fix this I can’t ride or turn on my bike the oil just spits out the top
really enjoyable viewing Del 👍
What are the hoses that seem to go to nowhere form the carburetor assybly for? (under the tank/ wiring loom cover.)
This is the second time I've seen you use what looks like an extra deep, perhaps modified socket to remove and install the spark plugs. Did you make that tool or is there someone who sells it? It would certainly make removal/installation of spark plugs on this motor so much easier.
Thanks for taking the time to show just how extensive a restoration project should be and the level of care to do it right.
Cheers.
You're most welcome Sir, and that spark plug socket is an OEM tool from a Suzuki toolkit... the best spark plug sockets are the ones designed for the job by the manufacturer and they include them in the toolkit, they come with the rubber bung inside and as you can see, they reach perfectly but are still short enough to feed in to the centre hole under the frame tube... the Suzuki Bandit plug sockets actually have a hinge in the middle which is even more trick, you can probably buy them from the main dealer if you can't find one online!
Hi Del, thanks for all the videos recently. I like the chipboard look, very easy to fix to I noticed. That Triumph will be a nice riding bike. Here's a question. Triumph Tiger 955i parked for the winter. started 3 or 4 times. Now sounds rough. If you don't mind answering, what do you think it could be. I have a thought but wanted to hear yours. Thanks.
Email me James, am gonna be snowed under for an hour or so with the flush of first messages, I'll get back to you on email, let's see if we can sort it out!
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del, thanks that's okay if you're busy. It was a bike on the Tiger forum and not mine. I just think it's a fuel issue. It was fine when it was parked, now it's not so has to be something simple. Anyway not important. No worries.
I always oil up me cables every chance I get-even if fitting new ones. I know you did too, just edited out I reckon.
Great video nice rebuild on the case
Thanks Andy 👍
I prefer old classic air cooled Machines, no plumbing, a lot Easier to work on. Nice job Del.⚙️🔩🔧👍
Nice work - what are the seals around the coil packs?
Coming along nicely❤️
Interesting to see that the coil sticks stand a little higher here than on my Speed Triple. The coil seals are not quite making such a good seal (arguably) as I can see you had to slide them down revealing a slight gap/recess.
I had the old seals on mine which have now been replaced. My plugs were in an appalling state.
Advise to check condition of plugs once a year.
Just an observation.
Just caught up - all coming along great Del 👍
Thanks mate 👍, appreciate your support!
Formidable! Et les gros-plans sont magnifiques, bravo!!!
Del, Interesting to watch your reassembly of the top end! One question is the coils, meaning you have removed the side mounted coils and installed individual spark plug coils. I am interested as I am restoring a 1995 Triumph TBird and would like to up grade my system.
Yes Rick you have that right, you remove the 3 coils mounted on the frame tube with the HT leads as well, junk the whole lot, you fit the stick coils on top of the plugs and then plug in the low tension wires to the original coil feed harness... it all comes colour coded, ready to plug in, or you can cut the wires and solder them together if you prefer, contact Paul Messenger on Facebook for more info!
@@Moonfleet41 only wish we could find a link for his website as I'm off FB
@@burtongibson9695 He doesn't have a website mate, old school chap, you might him on one of the Triumph forums!
Do you have the details for the airbox and filter? Thank you.
Man on a mission today. 👍
Great video Del. Any reason you didn’t change the rusty bolts on top of the slide lids on the carbs?
Do you mean the carbs caps mate, the little crosshead screws? If so, I literally couldn't find any, so will upgrade them to allen screws when I get a chance!
Yes mate those exact ones! I didn’t doubt you for a second. My first job on carbs these days as no matter what manufacturer they all seem to be made of cheese!
Fab video as usual… can I ask are the coil sticks cylinder specific..? I am fully aware that the cables are.
No. Use in any cyl.
Brilliant job mate, looking good.
Thanks Dan 👍
Great Video awesome job Del 👏👏👌🏻👍
Glad you enjoyed it Chris! Thanks for your feedback mate...
Hi, serious question (I know, I like the shock value). Why did Triumph insist on fitting the engine's air filter within the most inaccessible part of the intake track? Great if you want to sell more engines than filters to your customers, but why not fit a nicely made 3-way plenum chamber jobbie that need not be disturbed, itself amply fed by smooth, flexible trunking from a generous filter lurking in some unseen yet more easily accessible locale?
And as for where they stuck that 'Bent Zeppelin' spine tube . . . a little more Viagra & it could have been an Egli : ) xx
What spark plug socket do you use with the rachet, cheers Paul
Hi del, great vid. Iv got a question about gaskets. I’m about to put a new one on with my generator cover on my Aprilia Tuono as it needed a new stator. Do they go on dry? Cheers Ben
Hi Ben, modern casings are so flat and correct they can indeed go on dry, you could put a little grease on the gasket just to soften it and allow it to bed quicker in to the two faces, and that will also make it more removeable in the future!
I have a 96 Trophy, and I’ve been considering switching to stick coils. I’d love to see a video about it. What are the pros and cons? How do you choose what to put in? How difficult is it? For me, I mean. Nothing seems difficult to you 😁
The advantages mate are you remove the HT lead and you fit the coil directly on top of the plug so there is zero resistance and a far heftier spark, they're not something you can make yourself, and check out Paul Messenger on Facebook, he makes them and can answer any questions you may have... and there are few Paul Messengers on there, he's the guy stood by the yellow Triumph in the avatar... hope that helps!
Delboy's Garage Thanks!
If anyone thinks those carbs and airbox combo looks tight, try getting GPZ900 ones in and out 🤣🙈😓
You're so right mate, this lot was a breeze, but I take your GPZ900 and I challenge with the GSXR air box removal, I guarantee after an hour, you would have gone indoors or reached for a hacksaw!!
@@Moonfleet41 🤣 I'll take your word for it mate, think I exercised every bad word in my vocabulary that day!
@@Chris71920 I feel your pain brother, there is no torture like fitting carbs in a compact engine bay!
Is the band saw you have the Clarke CBS45MD? if so any issues with it? I was thinking of getting one if they are any good.
Another great episode, Del. Can you pass on a link for JL Racing? Can’t find Paul on Facebook. Many thanks!
Hi buddy, as I said in the video, there's no link to it, just search Paul on FB, he's the guy standing by a yellow Triumph, that's his preferred contact!
Hi del what size is that box spanner both ends please.....thanks
Nearly there Del.
I looked for Paul Messenger on Facebook and JL Racing and couldn’t track anything. I want the stick pack upgrade and actually am having an impossible time finding them anywhere! Do you have an idea where I can get some? As always thank you for the awesome content!
Never mind I found him. HA! Cheers!
Well done mate, as you can see they're not a ready product on the market, Paul pretty much just makes them for friends in the Triumph community, he's an absolute gentleman and an electrical genius, so send him my best regards and tell him I said Hi... good luck with your project, I hope it goes well for you mate.
excellent as is the norm
Thanks Mike, great to hear from you mate.
Hi,where did you get those stick coils from? Thanks
Hi Del, what's the advantages of the coil packs?
Same as on your car mate these days, it puts the high tension coil directly on top of the spark plug with no HT lead... you'll notice a far heftier and brighter spark, more instant start up and a smoother tick over, specially if you're running old OEM HT leads as they break down over time... all engines run stick coils now pretty much, it's just a better and more direct way to feed power to the plugs!
Even better than textbook! Way to work Del 🍻
Thanks again mate, always good to hear from you!
Hi have you any links to obtain gaskets for triumph thunderbird 1997 . Love all your videos I've found so many very useful .
No sorry I don't have direct links, I just ordered mine from the dealer!
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Would like to buy the same handlebars? Where I can find ? Could you send me some link to buy it ?
Where did you get those in-line coil packs from please Del?
That airfilter/ airbox construction must be one of the worst way to make it to complicate a simple airfilter change.
Hey Del and Penny, the TT is coming along very nicely. Thanks for taking the time to record, produce and share such excellent videos. Keep well and stay safe.
Most welcome John, thank you so much for your kind words!
Is that red rubber grease del ? If not can I use that on the rubber head gasket,?? Thanks
Hi Terry, I did use red rubber grease on the dust boots for the stick coils, yes. When you say head gasket, am presuming you actually mean the rubber rocker cover gasket? If you do, then the best thing for that is some proper RTV sealant as they're prone to leak on the left hand front corner. Hope that helps!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks del , your a star mate , keep up the good work. You save all of us money in these hard
Times, all your videos are excellent 👌 👏 best on you tube
@@tedge19 Most welcome Terry, happy to help mate.
is that an entire engine gasket kit?? one of those would be perfect for my America
It's a 'lower outer casings' kit mate.. no head gasket or cam cover gaskets, had to buy those separately.
What is the red goop that you use to coat the rubber gaskets, please ?
The rocker cover gasket is rubber, rather than the usual card, so I use a smear of silicone based, heat resistant, red rubber lube.. it helps the gasket settle in to it's exact position and it also preserves the rubber too!
Goos jobs 👍
After doing the carbs and coil on plug upgrade it runs great thou yesterday I notice exhaust pipes 2 and 4 are cold 1,3 are hot normal.. All apart again I guess.. 😊
Really? Am sure you know what you're doing, my first check would be to ground the plug against the block and check the sticks are live, presume you've got them wired in the correct way? Good luck with it buddy.
There has been a lot of talk about COP (coil on plug) conversions on these carbed Triumphs. Apparently it's more successful on the 3 cylinders than on the 4s.
I think it has something to do with the impedance of the coils and the fact that the 4 cylinder machines run 2 coils with each coil running 2 plugs with a wasted spark, whereas the 3 cylinders have a dedicated coil per cylinder. I think someone once said you have to use sticks with a higher impedance on the 4 cylinder engine than you do on the 3...? Not sure now, it was a long time ago.
Similarly, there can be issues with switching to aftermarket air filters (K&N, Pipercross, pod filters etc) on the 4, but they can work quite nicely on the 3s.
@@Moonfleet41 yeah honest. I read a few things today like swap a hot and cold stick see if same and narrow the problem. Cool😊
Bit drunk last night. Anyway that's what it was. I ground 2,4 plugs no Spark put new and all 4 cylinders are firing. Thanks.. Funny I wouldn't notice because it started first time and run great.. 😊
@@Dead_Assassin Great that you got it sorted. Did you get the COPs and stuff in a plug-&-play kit, or assemble stuff yourself? I have often thought about doing the same to my 94 Trophy 1200 but thought it wouldn't work, for the above-stated reasons. If yours works, I could go the same route. I have heard people use stick coils from the TT600, others say the ones from an R6.
Which ones did you fit? They clearly work. :)
I can't find JL Racing on facebook...
Answered your previous question mate.