HEDDphone Two Review - Now THIS is what I call detailed
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- The HEDDphone V2 is a unique and very impressive headphone, showing off just how detailed an AMT driver can be!
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00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Build and Comfort
02:36 - Subjective Sound
08:29 - Objective Sound
11:25 - Summary - Розваги
It's really cool to see them improve on this design, because the technology is so strong that it REALLY deserves a second chance. I hope this time it really takes off, and I'm glad Headphones is heavily promoting it to help that happen. Planars need a competitor like AMT.
planars are low distortion and easily available, full range amt (see heddphone v1) was not low distortion and also overpriced as hell...
planars have a good competitir alread in dynamic drivers, which are usually cheaper
@@leviathan5207overpriced as hell? Not low on distortion? I tested so many headphones and soundwise the HeddPhone V1 is one of the best I ever tested. The Arya Stealth was sooooo boring sounding, had a very cheap build quality and had the same price tag as the HeddPhone. The only issue was the weight. If you drive the HeddPhone with plenty of power, they sound absolutely astonishing. ❤
hifiman he1000se vs heddphone which one would you prefer?
@@Kyoutube121heddphone 2 for sure.
You guys need over 100k subscribers right now! Your content and production value are always Class A!
Thanks GoldenSound, Great review! Had my eye on the OG version when they first came out but these look more interesting. Perhaps if Resolve is still planning a full review he could compare it to some of the other headphones in the same price range.
Excellent review! Thank you! I am definitely treating myself to a pair this year.
Awesome review Cameron, thanks dude
Looks like a very promising pair of headphones! Can't wait to try it!
great review
excellent review as always golden sound, at canjam london, the hedd2 and the atrium closed were the 2 standouts for me, both in terms of competency and sheer enjoyment in the listen, with the arya organic a close third. what a great choice now available for those willing to spend that kind of money.
What made me smile is that its clear that this hedd v2 is a solution you get when you let a bunch of engineers to sort out a problem. Not a bunch of marketers and trend chasers. I need to get one
Edit: 4:18 i see that thin red line! Finally no guess work lol
5:40 did the v2 lose the height that was evident in the v1 to its soundstage? And i think you’re right abt the spacing created by the pads cause I remember during a livestream with the hedd team on the v1 where they said they needed to make the h1’s pad thicc to achieve the soundstage they wanted.
I had the opportunity to demoing the HEDD 2 at home and I have to say that they have a very strong point: for those who love to listen at low volumes (yes, I'm one of them), they really have all the technical advatages of electrostas, with a tuning that's simply outstanding. Increasing volume isn't my cup of tea and doesn't seem the best for HEDD 2. Great headphones. I only whish they had larger ear pads: as you pointed out, the vocalist/instrument recorded in front of you is really in front of you. Gotta try to mod some ear pads. Thank you for sharing man
And I thought, I was the only one ...
Please can you expand on ‘increasing the volume isn’t my cup of tea’? Does the sound from the HEDD 2 become unpleasant to your ears at higher volumes?
It just seems like most headphones don't give you enough mids, but these do.
What are some headphones that are good at low volumes that have all the technical advantages of electrostatic that you mention?
I primarily listen to vocals and from this review I’m not going to buy until I hear them. I don’t like vocals right in front of me. I prefer headphones that project the vocal image way out in front of me similar to what speakers do. Based on this review, they don’t do that.
man now I want these, LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE!
You should compare Hedd2 with Hifiman He1000se instead of Arya Stealth based on their price.
Most definitely chose the Arya due to the fact that it’s probably vastly more popular and more viewers will be familiar with the sound signature of the Arya.
When I first listened to the original HEDD headphone at the London CanJam all those years ago, romance blossomed. I was so excited to get to listen to the version two this year. Again, I was blown away. This will be my entry into the 4-6 k£ territory in terms of sound quality. HEDD, please take my money!!!
Hey G thanks for another great video, you didn’t mention what amps dacs you were using with H2. Also maybe different amp would help with depth of the sound stage. Cheers
These are $2000 should be compared to HE1000se in my opinion.
thanks for the great review 😎 what amps may be good pairing? archel 3 pro / lake people g111 mk2 / Violectric v222 ...? 😊
Great review! What amp(s) did you use to power this?
Golden's voice is therapy to me haha ❤
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Nice review but did you enjoy them? Did music make you happy? I find that the Arya Organic and M15 or Bliss does just that.
Electrostatic like resolution? That is quite a nice complement. Colour me intrigued. 😮
I wonder if boosting the mid treble with EQ might improve the perception of soundstage depth. With some headphones that can have a surprisingly big effect, but not with others.
So...
My question is how do they performe compared to other 2k headphones and how do they performe compared to totl headphones?
Detail, speed ans airyness of electrostat,
impact of dynamic drivers, technical bass of a planar and
Vocals of an hd650.
The feature combination you are describing should place these in the totl range?
Curious how it stacks up to higher tier planar ie Susvara LCD5 Caldera etc
What would be the best closed back headphones for competitive gaming? I’ve used open backs (HD560s) but I feel like I can’t hear footsteps as well. Maybe because I’m in a noise environment. But I currently use the cloud ll. I’m just curious if there’s any other closed backs that would be good for esports. Thank ya!!!
Very interesting pair! Quite a chunky pair though, how heavy were they?
550g (25% lighter than the original one)
Thank you for this! Nice review! I missed the amp pairing.... it seems hard to drive. Other thoughts... it seems that it still does not dethrone Susvara despite the hype and aggressive marketing, but seems like great value for money 🤔
Yeah, where’s the amp pairing
The sound character is rather distinct from the Susvara.
I think I’ve found my upgrade path from my Arya Stealth, haha! When you compared the HEDDphone 2 to the Arya Stealth and said the Arya almost sounded compressed and less detailed, I just went, ‘Whaa?’ I find my Aryas to sound extremely clear and natural. So, seeing someone practically shit on them in comparison to something else is hella special - in a good way, of course. I also tend to like a slightly treble-lacking tuning as I am quite treble-sensitive. I find many headphones to be quite shouty; even my Arya Stealth. I can’t turn up the volume very far because it starts to get sibilant and shouty.
The Arya Stealth is quite treble focused and definitely more a bright and analytic sounding headphone than a rather dark lush experience.
So what do you mean by saying "even"?
Many people have referred to the Susvara as electrostatic-like in detail, how would the HEDDphone 2 compare in that regard? Also, more comparisons in general would be nice.
well there they are, much better design than V1, headphones that I really want to have :)
Hedd is crushing the whole market with this unbelievable offering 😂👍👍👍👍👍
Can you add distortion metrics in the future? While i understand that it doesnt matter as much, it interesting to see what improvements have been made to the prior versions.
Distortion is important, specifically for EQ purposes, but we also don't want to mislead people into thinking it matters more than it does (or mean something it doesn't). So if we show it, it will require the right format.
@@IHearEverythingDude it's a good question! But certainly not how it gets commonly displayed, given the narratives that have formed around it thus far.
@@ResolveReviewsmaybe something like multiple THD frequency response curves at a couple different db’s of output level? Is that a realistic ask or is there a way to measure THD at more than one frequency at a time so that you can realistically create a graphic representation of such a measurement?
The housing looks way smaller than the original. Glad to see the headband is improved though.
Best headphones I’ve ever heard.
I liked the first one a lot, just wish it fit my head better… this is looking interesting!
Should work very well on your head now!
@@HEDDAudioGmbH, I'll be in touch!
Are there any chances of a closed back estat anytime soon?
Could I drive this using mojo? Can you recommends portable amp for this?
I would think the dynamic range of these would add to the soundstaging ability, but I’m really curious as to how these sound IRL so I’ll be at Can Jam SoCal the weekend of Sep 30 to hopefully get my head in a pair
Update?
@@TheWorldTeacher didn’t make it, had to work sorry man
hoping for your symphonium crimson review
How it compare with the SE1000se ?
I didn't know i needed a squid for scale but I want it now.
this thing is the same price as the he1000se. what are some of the difference between the two?
Thank you Golden Sound, it's a great headphone.
Are these better for pinpointing footsteps in gaming than the hd800?
Hedd2 or raal ca1a? Source and cost is not a problem. I don't have a Harman curve OCD and I like different sound signatures. However, I'm a sucker for good imaging, resolution and speed.
Warwick acoustics bravura headphone system 👍
@@x32i77 nah, not a fan of headphone systems and their prices lol. I prefer juggling through my system.
You have to wear HD800 on maximum size adjustment? My gosh, you do have a huge head.
Phenomenal review 👏🏼
But that sub bass roll off is disappointing.
Can you please respond to comments? I see DMS do this as well were he will only do 1 or 2, when there are multi questions being asked. Not 100's, so i dont understand why you are so seemingly strategic in what type of comment you reply to.
Maybe this one ;)
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Bruh cmon, they mean it lol. You dont gotta answer everyone, but a few highly liked comments would be real helpful especially when the video was missing a few pieces of key info
Now we just need 3 more headphones from HEDD...
1 @ $1399
1@ $799
1@ £399
:)
Super-well noted! 🙃
@@HEDDAudioGmbHBasically please start competing directly with Hifiman! Your technology and build quality is far superior, but Hifiman's marketing is unfortunately far-reaching.
@@HEDDAudioGmbH, and even LIGHTER in weight, for those of us with tiny heads (or should that be "hedds"). 🗣️
Ok, but that headphone stand though.
Where can I get one of those?
Not fair comparison with Arya. Arya cost 1200$ and Hedd is 2000$. In this case you should compare Hedd with he-1000 stealth at least.
Fair point
So how demaning is this headphone when it comes to amps and DACs?
How would this beauty compare to the Arya Organc?
Question... Is the HEDDphone Two hard to drive...? Does it require a lot of juice to perform at optimal levels with headroom to spare...?
It is fairly demanding, yes
designed for mixing and mastering...would be very helpful to get a comparison of the HEDDs vs Audeze MM-500
Fc-Construct has a short comparison of it vs. the MM-500 in his written review over at The Audio Files: headphones.com/blogs/reviews/heddphone-two-review-ive-never-been-so-excited-for-a-headphone
awesome, thanks much!@@TheHEADPHONEShow
So Mojo 2 with a 6 db bass shelf at 20hz should be a great combo right?
Possibly.
Why would they tune that subbass roll off if its not a driver limitation?
My guess it‘s a seal issue. It will be interesting to switch ear pads.
Would the Mojo 2 be able to power this?
Could you compare these to the Goldplanar GL850? Another AMT headphone.
Also Try out the Goldplanar GL-AMT16 IEM! Really great full range AMT driver in that one, Goldplanar and HEDD are two companies that came from the same AMT manufacturer from the 70s :)
The AMT was originally invented by American/German Physicist Oskar Heil, and then modernized (smaller, more reliable) by HEDD Founder Klaus Heinz. For the longest time, AMTs were used in Klaus' tweeter designs (playing from around 2500Hz to 50kHz), when we launched HEDD in 2015 we kicked of a new development phase in which we were able to design the first true full-range AMT.
@@HEDDAudioGmbH that's great, good knowledge :) thank you
It's still true what I said, no?
@@maegnificant Thanks! Mostly yup, but no one making AMTs today is directly related to Oskar Heil's ESS brand in the 70s. His works were merely an inspiration - certainly for Klaus Heinz, who visited Oskar several times in the US to then pursue his own path.
@@HEDDAudioGmbH i see! I saw that Information on some wiki if I remember correctly.
Would these be considered better than the arya? Im in between the u12t or Heddphone two.
He did suggest they're better than the Arya. U12t less vocal presence, Heddv2 more vocal presence.
Hello, is the original Heddphone still worth buying at a slightly less price?
I would never buy the original one without trying it first. Tried it in Tokyo a couple of months ago and felt awkward and painful after barely 15 mins! Hoping this version feels much much better
Thanks! I'll save up for the Heddphone 2.
Was that a HD650? I would have guessed it was 600. In any case, wish Resolve reviewed these..
It was the HD600 on camera. I like Golden Sound's reviews...but the heavy marketing in general feels awkward >.
At that price they better be amazing, you can get Focal Clear MG for less than half of that price.
The MG is much better than this. Heard the headphone at can jam and it wasn’t that good. It had the worse bass I’ve ever heard.
i would like golden to review ab 1266
So it is actually a headphone I can wear now?
ya kinda left off one important detail.... how hard/easy are they to drive... do they respond to a nice amp ??
Thanks for reminding us!
In my case, I'm planning to acquire a hefty headphone amplifier, so that will not be an issue.
89db sensitivity at 41 olms. They recommend at least 200mW power, 1000 mW recommended so you'll need a decent amp but nothing overly insane. Apparently it's recommended to listen at low to medium-low volume so power shouldn't be a big deal.
Good HEDD
Hype. Hype. Hype.
GoldenSound, if you like like it, then it must be damn good.
If this ones are lighter and have more comfort it would worth to trying it again🎉
We took down 25% weight, all new mechanical design.
@@HEDDAudioGmbH Danke für die Information ich hatte das erste Model und war von Klang wirklich begeistert 👍
Nur der Komfort und das Gewicht war einfach nicht meins.
Ich werde den neuen bei meinem Fachhändler mal ausprobieren und mal sehen ob er mich überzeugt 👍
Das freut uns sehr zu hören!! @@stephannordmann5346
Why comparing with headphones that are lesser priced? Something like the HE1000se would match bass I'm sure.
I want this one so bad.
Me too, but it's just too much
Same, but I'm not rich
You guys want ZMF Caldera 😃
@@x32i77 really don't like the zmf Design at all
@@maegnificant it's beautiful natural , it's like saying you don't like 🎻 made out of wood . You prefer carbon violin xD
Hedd Vs mm 500 tough decision
How does bass slam on the Heddphone Two compare to either the original Hifiman HE6, Focal Clear, or Audeze LCD-X? Does it slam harder than all 3?
Have exactly the same question. Aeon Noire had reviews like this and it turned out to be trash and i returned it same day i got it xD
This vs. MM-500
Any leads?
nice review.... would be nice if the reviewers would compare these $2K phones with other $2K offerings...
hd800s and arya stealths were compared.. they're widely known and close enough.. what other 2k offerings you mentioning? like HEKv2s?
Kudos to HEDD for not increasing the price.
they did raise the price... the original is $1500 and the 2 is $2000
That's the current discounted price, I'm comparing the original MSRP when it hit the market versus the v2 MSRP@@dixter1652
@@dixter1652The original was $1,899 and the new one is $1,999, but it includes 2 cables, 2 adapters, a spare set of ear pads and a travel case. If you consider accessories, HP2 is cheaper.
The original has a MSRP of $1899 USD. It is currently on sale for $1499
So basically cheaper, at least where I live, since inflation since 2020 is > 10% which would equate to at least 2,090@@TheHEADPHONEShow
Holy crap dude, you have a huge head! Most people wear the HE1000 at 1 or 2 notches from the bottom, not top. 😅
An I was ready to buy the HE1000 Stealth.
you didn't mention if these are hard to drive with a efficiency of 87db at 42 ohms
I'll wait for version 3 (no 1kHz bump, better stage depth and height, and more and a bit above linear bass) and I will instantly buy it as the perfect headphone! Version 2 is very impressive though.
Also they need to fix this driver crinkling. Inherent or not that's not acceptable for 2000 EUR.
How does this compare to susvara?
You can buy THREE of these for the same price and give two away as Christmas gifts.
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices doesn't matter, you should get the product thats right for what you wanted or its a waste.
Price ???
$1999
$1500 for these sounds like a goddamn steal. I wish I could try these out soon 😢
Much intelligence, takes a large container to store it in.
It is as simple as that, huh,, 👍😎👍
Y’all are trying to sell this one so bad…
I mean, they genuinely seem to like it. They just shat on the Raven like a week ago and gave a meh review about the Arya Organic lol. Not like theyre hyperbolizing to sell units on their YT channel
They look so boxy
I've got a question: I'd like to buy a pair of sennheisers and I've narrowed my options to the 58x and the 6xx. I do not have money to buy an amp. Which one would you reccomend?
Get the 560 in that case.
thanks for answering, I appreciate it but unfortunately I tried the 560s and I didn't really like them... @@enjoshi-godrez8775
@@luigiheewan1226the 58x is not that much different then the 560, and the 600 and 6xx unfortunately need a amp of some sort, they are too inefficient. A ifi uno is like $60, but your total would now be over $350. What sound signiture do you like?
Then the 58x should be ok. It less bright than the 560 if that was your problem.
Get the 58x
Great cans for the Money
Worried they might not fit my ears. These pads look quite small.
Hope you can try soon! Pad size hasn't really changed since HP ONE.
@@HEDDAudioGmbH Jup, would love to try them! Maybe my eyes are deceiving me.
If there's one thing that comes to mind... it's Over engineering (there I fixed it).
That is to say, "german engineering" tends to add parts and complexity with little or no benefit. I'm not specifically talking about these headphones.
@8:35 the tuning looks much nicer than the original. What was a 20dB difference between the 6Khz valley and 3Khz, has been reduced to just ~8dB (huge improvement!). I found the original dead sounding on any audio chain tilting even slightly warm.
"and hedd actually got a patent pending for that" yeah, thats unfortunate......
ah yes yes, a formidable size analogy for us poor peeps out here lmao
jk aside, sweet vid as per usual!
For 2 grand, this headphone better be dam good sounding since they obviously didn't waste Money on coming up with a cool name.
This is a minor nitpick but please stop saying the word "neutral" without telling me what you mean! Neutral relative to harman? DF? Your own curve? ???
Anyway, great review otherwise and I hope AMT stuff eventually hits mass production so us working class people can enjoy them.
They're own target is DF with a 10db downwards tilt. That the target you see on the graph, but compensated.
10dB
Its besser to buy a electrostatic?
Only if you don't like bass.
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices
Lol I have to second this - though I wouldn’t have thought of phrasing it like that 😂
They still weigh a lot. don't be afraid to mention it...
I dislike the original since everything sounded airy and easy. There was technicality, but in even less enjoyable way than basic electrostatic headphones. Can these do bass weight even with EQ? Not just tactility, but deep heavy EDM bass.
I bought the original HeDDphone and loved the sound but found them unwearable for more than 30 minutes. The headband would dig into my scalp. So I returned them. To my ears they were anything but dark. Dark = no sale, no matter how resolving. But I always thought if they came out with a new phone that addressed the comfort issue I would give it serious consideration. But dark? No thanks.
The original didn’t have a ergonomic problem in my subjective opinion.
this is the first time i feel like buying a pair of headphone that cost 2000bucks . WTF.