I love how Jeff weaves such a colorful detailed oratorical tapestry in his voiceovers but when describing overly compliant wheels just refers to them as "nooodly pieces of shit".
In the past the first thing I ditched on new bikes was the race face wheels, might be time to try the new stuff instead of assuming they're all like they were...
The compliance affects the high-speed, high frequency chatter… return on compliance investment will be lower on long, travel bikes. At the same time I can’t think of any place I am more death gripped than Whistler bike park.
@@testtesttesttesttest884 hmm, most likely, also what spokes are you built up with? I found them to be much more comfortable than my wao unions and my forge and bond wheels.
Another great video Jeff. I agree with you, $1600 is a tough price point to sell these wheels considering a We Are One wheelset retails for about the same...
Wait Jeff owns tires that aren't double down? He's still trying to prove something to everyone who laughed when he said he was "more of a cross country guy" in the last video. 😏 Though secretly I agree that "cross country" doesn't have to mean light bikes, short suspension, and "mild" trails.
To me, XC is simply riding trails that go all over the place, big loops. It does not mean "racing." And yeah, WTB sent those tires ages ago, but this is the PERFECT use for them!
I don’t listen to folks when they talk about compliance. It has so much to do with how much force someone can add into a component. Especially a light rider vs a heavy rider. My carbon rims are known to be VERY stiff, but to me they are quite compliant due to me being 225lbs. Also, I’d love for companies to start explaining what their “average” rider looks like because I think they often under estimate the average rider size and weight.
You've got a great point, TT. From my experiences, it felt like "the industry" assumes riders are fantastically underweight- about 150-170lbs, ~5'11" tall, intermediate riding ability. I'm at 175lbs now, and definitely notice stuff flexing far more than I did back when I was racing, ~155-160lbs. Stuff a pro finds to be flexy can still be great for someone who doesn't push the limits nearly as hard- for example, the Ibis Ripmo AF. I find that bike good, but at the limit of what I want to ride due to it being somewhat flexy. However, there are tens of thousands of riders who LOVE that bike, and don't notice its flex at all.
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I love how Jeff weaves such a colorful detailed oratorical tapestry in his voiceovers but when describing overly compliant wheels just refers to them as "nooodly pieces of shit".
Day 12978409 pf asking Jeff to review the Trek Slash or Fezzari La Sal Peak.
Love your vids btw
how does the new fork feel on the rigid? looks like this one will last you a bit longer given the thickness and lack of sweep!
Haters will say Jeff doesn’t know what a gravel bike is
Goood video. I am an I9 fan boy too but these wheels are pretty affordable (for carbon) and seem ideal for a trail bike.
Taints rejoicing… my taints jealous 😂😂😂
Activating the algo here Jeff!
would the fox factory headquarters be called the... *Fox factory* ?
Only if everything is coated in kashima coating 😶😶🌫🙈
@@a8f235 that would be the fox factory factory
In the past the first thing I ditched on new bikes was the race face wheels, might be time to try the new stuff instead of assuming they're all like they were...
They’ve been pretty good the last few years!
Please compare these wheels to the We Are One Convergence wheel set! Love your bike and wheel reviews!
Thanks! And I’d love to! We were chatting last summer but never connected- hopefully later this spring!
Amazing!!!
If these era wheels were fitted on a 170 enduro bike, will the vertical compliance feel be negated?
The compliance affects the high-speed, high frequency chatter… return on compliance investment will be lower on long, travel bikes. At the same time I can’t think of any place I am more death gripped than Whistler bike park.
“I’m not supported by any wheel brand” the I9 partnership is done!?
Done at the end of 2022, my friend. But I really like those wheels so I have kept riding them on many of my bikes
One word Berd
You should try out some nobl tr37’s they’re crazy flexy… in a good way😁
Really? Mine are too stiff but it might be because the front and rear are both the rear layup.
@@testtesttesttesttest884 hmm, most likely, also what spokes are you built up with? I found them to be much more comfortable than my wao unions and my forge and bond wheels.
Another great video Jeff. I agree with you, $1600 is a tough price point to sell these wheels considering a We Are One wheelset retails for about the same...
I did see that most pre-Bill aluminum wheels cost about a gram these days so for 300 bucks more per wheel, you do get high-performance
This is also in Reserve Carbon 30 price range, depending on which hub you get
"Racé Facé" 😂
It legit took me a few minutes to figure out what my friends were referring to when I first heard them say that in Spain
Wait Jeff owns tires that aren't double down? He's still trying to prove something to everyone who laughed when he said he was "more of a cross country guy" in the last video. 😏
Though secretly I agree that "cross country" doesn't have to mean light bikes, short suspension, and "mild" trails.
To me, XC is simply riding trails that go all over the place, big loops. It does not mean "racing." And yeah, WTB sent those tires ages ago, but this is the PERFECT use for them!
I don’t listen to folks when they talk about compliance. It has so much to do with how much force someone can add into a component. Especially a light rider vs a heavy rider. My carbon rims are known to be VERY stiff, but to me they are quite compliant due to me being 225lbs.
Also, I’d love for companies to start explaining what their “average” rider looks like because I think they often under estimate the average rider size and weight.
You've got a great point, TT. From my experiences, it felt like "the industry" assumes riders are fantastically underweight- about 150-170lbs, ~5'11" tall, intermediate riding ability. I'm at 175lbs now, and definitely notice stuff flexing far more than I did back when I was racing, ~155-160lbs. Stuff a pro finds to be flexy can still be great for someone who doesn't push the limits nearly as hard- for example, the Ibis Ripmo AF. I find that bike good, but at the limit of what I want to ride due to it being somewhat flexy. However, there are tens of thousands of riders who LOVE that bike, and don't notice its flex at all.
Jeff your a riot 😂
Raceface headquarters being in the US is still foreign to me. I miss dropping by the factory for their garage sales!
No! No gravel grinding 😂
In the mood for some new experiences tho!