Synthstrom Deluge as a Sample Mangler (resample trick)
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2022
- There's a lot of debate about the abilities of the Elektron Octatrack being unparalleled with other samplers. When people talk about the Deluge, they often think of it as a bit of a "straightforward" sequencer or stem playback device, and that they need an OT to really mangle samples. I disagree!
Having owned both a Synthstrom Deluge and an Octatrack for quite a long time, I've got a pretty good understanding of where there's some crossover - and this video demonstrates a fraction of the mangling capabilities the Deluge has (on top of all the other amazing things it does). They are both different machines with different workflows, and both have pros and cons that will be up to the user which one is "best" (for them). Everyone has their own interpretation of HOW they like to mangle samples, too. So, that's my way of saying YOU DO YOU BABY, NO NEED TO BE A TRIBAL DOUCHEBAG ABOUT IT.
All sounds and processes are internal within the Deluge using the stock 808 kit, but the final output has a bit of stereo saturation from the Deluge running through my eurorack (which I forgot to bypass - sorry mum).
I listen to this beautiful piece every night before bed. Thank you for this lullaby.
Awesome work and some excellent rowdy noises! BTW, if you hit Play and Record again whilst it's resampling, it will run to the end of the loop and finish, then your recordings are always the right length for your current track.
I bought teh Deluge mostly bc of this video. If you want perfect loops, BPH, use the same key press when u turn off recording (press and hold record, press play). Cheers, man!
Ugh, can't believe I forgot that shortcut to auto-switch it off again... So much built into this machine that I sometimes forget a shortcut! Hope you have fun with your Delly!
Wow this makes me realize how little I know about my deluge!! 😎
It’s a deep machine!
NICE ONE! Love how chaotic you got it. It's cool that you can resample that easily without faffing around having to name the file etc
I accidentally went a bit too destructive in this one, but that's part of the fun too! And yeah, the automatic structuring of resamples in the Deluge is a godsend
Love it 😍 Had no idea it’s that powerful and easy once you understand the concept. Thanks for sharing!
The key is how quickly you can move: mangle > resamples > reload > repeat forever. Keeping each mangling on it's own row of a kit also means you can "time travel" back to previous versions - kind of like peeling back the layers in a looper
Once you have resampled do you create a new kit and load the resampled audio on it? Could you explain the combo of buttons - how you did the pitch so that the sample did not slow down? Thanks so much - haven’t done this on my Deluge yet! cheers
@@peacefulpigeon7254 you can either do new kit or new row - I show both techniques in this vid. To timestretch you need to disable the “link” setting between pitch/speed on the far left column of pads
after doing resample+play, you can push this same button combination again and it will automatically stop playing and resampling when the current loop ends
I allllways forget that one
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for an inspirational video!
Although the Deluge and Octatrack are totally different beasts, they both share having so much flexibility within each device that you can come up with really creative workflows. I don't think there are many devices that fall into this category.
I have similar thoughts with my Octatrack - I both love and hate it... And if I don't use it in a while, I forget how to do even really simple things! Nothing but love for my Deluge though, and although it has some cryptic shortcuts, general use and resampling etc are super Intuitive.
Cool video by the way - thanks for sharing!
Good stuff my dude🖤🔥💣💥
My favourite instrument ✨
Lots of nice ideas here!
Thanks for sharing!
Here’s another one: chop your loops and give the slices a “stretch” playback mode, then place notes with different gate lengths and the loop accelerates and slows down based on your pattern
Well, was doing Wax Trax style industrial on my MC 707, looks like dirty industrial and techno will find a home on my Deluge
So much fun!
very cool
Whooaaa this is so cool. This thing seems so much cooler than almost every sampler/sequencer, but the lack of export makes me so sad. Nothing else seems to provide the option to make the strange
combo of music I want to make as readily as the Deluge. What a crazy instrument.
My sentiments exactly. I'm a guitarist, with techno leanings. I did some research, and this unit kept recurring in the top options, based on the type of music I wanted to create, and the methods I use to realize my creative vision. Finally decided to pick one up, but found them as rare as hen's teeth, here in North America. I didn't want to buy a used Deluge, and I wanted a machine that featured the newer OLED display, so I went straight to the source and ordered one from Synthstrom Audible, in New Zealand. The website is easy to navigate, the purchase process simple. Within a week, my Deluge was on its way, shipped directly to my door. The cost (in US$) was sobering but I took the plunge, because the builders of the instrument will most likely create future upgrades which keep the Deluge at the productive forefront, and - let's face it - the price will most likely head higher.
@@Cybrianon Since watching this I got an SP404MK2 and I do love it. But I still have Deluge on the wishlist and feel the same about it haha. I'd go the same route as far as getting the new one with OLED. I'm keeping my eye on it while I save because the Push 3 caught my eye haha.
We’ll done!!!
Nice
CRUNCHY!
That ended up as noise music. :-) But it really shows that you can do a lot and how fast the workflow is once you know it.
Lennart! Cheers from your Plone pal😂
mad! when me grown up I want me get one.
impressive, but can you do all that without stopping the audio playback?
I have an Akai Midi Mix going into my deluge, And in the deluge im primarily mixing Audio Stems that I have sampled from my laptop.
Its disappointing because it seems Midi control is not compatible with audio tracks on the deluge, As it just says 'Cant' on display,
Im simply trying to use volume faders, and filters controlled externally. Any help?
and how much more power one year after !🎉
not wrong! The community firmware changes are already absolutely slapping
question on the sidechain. How exactly does it work? Only on hi hats and bass drums and on per track basis only? you cant sidechain high hats from track 1, with bass drum from track 2, right?
Hey, sorry I missed this one. There is only a single side-chain, but anything can be the trigger for it.
So yes, you could sidechain track 1 hats from the track 2 kick, but this kick would be the sidechain trigger input for ALL tracks that are sidechained.
By default, the kick drum in all the stock kits is set to trigger, but you can change this to literally anything - or send multiple sounds to trigger the sidechain.
Then, each and every sound (i.e. every synth, every audio track, and every row in a kit) has it's own sidechain amount and an adjustable ADSR curve for the sidechain - so you can get pretty detailed and customised on the sound.
@Bribery's Production House
Sorry how do you do this.? audition pad on whichever sample you're wanting to sidechain to the bd, by shift and send on the keyboard?
Any tips much appreciated!
does it beat the Electron Octatrack in live sample mangling?
madman!
Which firmware is this? Been hesitant to dl most recent because of the bugs
yep the new 4.0 FW. I was on the 4.0 Beta team and came across a few bugs, but haven't noticed anything now that it is published!
Can you make a video doing the same exact thing with the octatrack?
Sorry man, sold my OT shortly after getting the Deluge. You can do the same sort of thing, but the workflow is far far longer and more laborious (IMO, of course). Resampling is so easy on the Deluge and I found it really annoying on the OT, but YMMV!
What did you like about the “OT”? I have it but I need to learn to use it. Can you show me how to use it through zoom?
@@pedrol8234 it’s a super powerful machine, but you kind of have to work within its limits, as it’s can’t “do everything”. There is almost always a workaround for everything, but the OS can be pretty dense sometimes. I’d suggest watching a stack of YT vids and reading through the Elektron forum to find answers for what you are wanting to do!
+awesome+
Knarly!
the deluge is too much for me... each time you resample, where are those other samples going? are they all playing at the same time? I dont think so. so what happened to them? they are just somewhere in the memory, unnamed? yeah, its too myopic for me. its like looking through a pinhole.
Everyone is different when it comes to gear and what makes sense to them - Deluge is no exception.
To answer your questions: every time you resample it goes to a "resample" folder. In the vid, I was resampling, loading that resampled track, and muting the previous one.
Yeah, ok. But that ain’t music by any definition.
Yeah it is