American Reacts to Cocteau Twins For The First Time!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Let's listen to Cocteau Twins for the very first time! Join me in exploring the ethereal, dreamlike soundscapes of this iconic British band, and discover the unique beauty of their music.
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Cocteau Twins are amongst the best, amazing, unique and hauntingly beautiful 💚
I notice you were mentioned in GirlGoneLondon’s latest video where she looks at reaction channels using her content. She mentions you positively in the comments on that video. I’d be fascinated to know your thoughts on this subject. Thankfully, you are one of the ‘good ones’ and have been rightly praised by other content creators as such. Keep fighting the good fight my man!
At least on this Channel - there's a bit of engagement and curiousity to look things up. I've got to say that I'm incredibly turned off by AskMojo list reactions. AskMojo's a horrible channel and a lazy thing to react to.
I was going to come to JJ's defence, then I read her comment!
@@BadMoonandStars I'm subbed, I do like this channel - especially the music related content.
It's literally her channel and the comments that brought me here. I hadn't heard of JJLA before this.....
One of the things that a lot of people seem to misunderstand about copyright is that Fair Use is an affirmative defense, not a set of rules. If you are sued and you claim fair use, then all four factors collectively are compared against the specific details of your case to determine if it applies. That is a finding of fact, meaning the jury needs to make a call.
The point being that just because UA-cam reactors haven't faced serious legal threats yet doesn't mean that what (most of them) are doing is okay and even if someone successfully defends themselves doesn't mean that other reactors are okay. JJLA is likely "one of the good ones" because he has been part of the industry professionally and is being very careful to add new content, not just react. Sooner or later, a lot of channels are going to be sued into oblivion.
Cocteau Twins made some of the greatest music I've ever heard, "Pur" makes me cry every time I listen to it!
4AD was the label of "Dead Can Dance" with Brendan Perry and Lisa Gerrard.
Elizabeth's vocals also appear in several places on the Lord of the Rings soundtracks.
The reason why their music sounds a little unusual is, apparently, because the voice is mixed at the same levels as the instruments, so you get that beautiful ambient thrum that is The Cocteau Twins.
If they dont play "Song to the Siren" at my Funeral, I'm not going ! ....Many people recognise it from the "Heaven" scene in the haunting "Lovely Bones" Movie.
Mine too.
They might also recognise it from the desert sex scene in Lost Highway.
Treasure is one of my absolute favourite albums.
I'm so glad that you've got around to learning and listening to this amazing, and ground-breaking band. I got into the Cocteau Twins early on with the album "Garlands" after hearing "But I'm Not" on John Peel, then the singles "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops" and "Peppermint Pig".
Love,love,love Cocteau Twins.
I was one of those indie kids and Pearly Dew Drop Drops was my introduction to the Cocteau Twins. Blew my mind. Lorelei is also one of my favourites ❤
Love the Cocteau Twins.
Liz also sang and was the lyricist on Massive Attack’s Teardrop
The Simon Renyolds book - Facing the other way - quoted in the video is an excellent read on the history of 4AD and Ivo. The label was really important and was also the home of The Pixies, The Breeders and the other projects of members of those bands so it wasn't limited to only odd little acts from Scotland that Ivo dragged to London :)
Grangemouth had little to do with oil drilling , rather it was the site of a major oil refinery built over the flat carse land on the shores of the Forth. A number of farms disappeared under it , one being Bearcrofts where my mother and her father before her were born. Granny described it as a beautiful place when she was first married until the oil works started c1925. The family had to leave in 1944 as the refinery kept growing. Grangemouth is a major container port but the oil refining will stop in 2025 - leaving just an import site for already processed oil products.
Ooh, Liz Fraser was my first schoolboy crush and I collected everything they ever did.
Blue Bell Knoll is my personal favourite anyway but Treasure and Head Over Heels hold a special place for me.
Also, their last album, Milk and Kisses, is way better than it was received at the time.
Really enjoyed this video, so thank you.
Song for the siren....by This Mortal Coil. You HAVE to listen to that.
I love The Cocteau twins. Many a crazy night was had listening to their music.
I can only imagine. Their music seems like it can take you places.
Cocteau Twins.
I'm from Grangemouth. My older brother was at school with Liz Fraser.
Camelon lad here.
I saw The Cocteau Twins in January 83 when they were still dark and interesting.
Was lucky enough to see Cocteau Twins at Barrowland in Glasgow back in 1990. Just wonderful. I was lost in Liz Fraser's incredible vocals for 90 or so minutes. Heavenly. And I love Treasure. Additionally, check out Simple Minds up to 1982. Fantastic.
Thanks, yeah Simple Minds would be a good one. It’s nice to hear that her vocals were amazing live. A true under appreciated talent 🙌
I must add that Barrowland is one of the best venues anywhere in the world , load in is up flights of stairs , the dance floor a football pitch before sound check and the local crew the maddest i have met anywhere , you haven't toured unless you have been to Barrowland . You haven't lived until you've been to Scotland .
thoroughly enjoyed that cheers. learned a lot actually from this. that's a good vid. great reaction. (always appreciate that you give a nod to the creator)
I am a 60 year old British woman who has loved music all my life and I have never heard of this band 🤷🏼♀️
I highly recommend them. And This Mortal Coil, which is a spin off from them.
50, but same 😅
How? Next you're going to say you've never heard of Fad Gadget or X-Mal Deutschland!
@@timdraper4559 I once had a couple of dates with a strange boy who claimed he liked Electric Chainsaw, I hoped it was a band!
I’m 64 and found them by accident in the 1980s when I caught them on TV. I bought all their albums.
I didn’t realise she was solo on Teardrop! Magnificent! Really loving these videos.
Quick, heads up... 4AD records was the label that spawned Peter Murphy and Bauhaus... The Birthday Party was Nick Cave's band, so the Cocteau's were already in the stable of those who would become icons of the dark genre of 80's rock/pop.
Besides the shoegaze and dreampop (whatever that even is, no-one can agree on its stylistic boundaries!) - the Cocteau Twins were also a big influence on Goth, especially the more ambient-tinged/contemplative side of Goth, like the bands on the Tess label, and some of the Polish bands. Guthrie's set of timbres and his minimal-made-maximal guitar lines, Raymonde who's with the likes of Gallup and Severin in the "lead bass" pantheon, and most of all the vocals...Siouxsie might have been the genre's female icon but by the '90s all the female singers were closer in tone to Liz Fraser (sometimes with the obscure enunciation). It helps that, while the Cocteaus "darkest" music was made in '82 and '83, the goth tinge never totally disappeared, resurfacing at times even in the last years.
I overlook Grangemouth & it's oil refinery, it's like living above Bladerunner at night. When the film came out we weren't overly impressed with their dystopian future view seeing as it was our 'current' view. All flares & lights, sadly lacking on the Harrison Fords though. 😁
The guitarists brother was my manager at a local football team.
Incredible Story 👏
I'd recommend giving Four-Calendar Cafe a listen. The band left 4AD in the early '90s and signed with a major label, Fontana. FCC was their first record with them. Some people jumped to the conclusion that they were selling out, but it's a good album. Everything that made them them is still there, just more refined. Very melodic and Liz's vocals are more prominant than in any prior release. I think FCC was their biggest seller in the US.
There is a trend of bands being named after songs - Cocteau Twins, Deacon Blue, The Rolling Stones, Radiohead...
Another band alongside new order and the likes that I used to go and watch, amazing band still got a lot of their stuff on vinyl
I just watched the GGL video people are talking about. I hope you aren't cheating on us with another country JJ, like those other reactors! 🤣
Glad she approves of you!
I didn't know about the Cocteau Twins (too young! But old enough to really like saying I'm too young!😆), so really enjoyed learning about them.
I really love Teardrop by Massive Attack, great tune.
Oh..I love "Teardrop". Have you heard Norwegian singer Aurora's version? Amazing! She did it live on Triple J's "Like A Version". (radio station in Australia if you are not from here). You can find it on YT. She has such an ethereal quality..it's wonderful.
@@nolasyeila6261 No, I’ve never heard that version, I will check it out though! Thanks!
I remember the first time I listened to the Cocteau Twins, it was Cherry-Coloured Funk and it felt like a part of my brain was activated for the very first time. It was quite revelationary. All their music is wonderful. I recommend listening to the original digital masters which sound the best.
Don't forget the Moon and the Melodies which is a fantastic collaboration with Harold Budd. Robin Guthrie also did albums with Harold Budd which are wonderful.
My favourite band. Love the music. Liz Fraser sang on the Lord of the Rings films. Check out the videos on here.
I am glad to find so many fellow Cocteau Twins adoptors here. 'Cocteau' is easy to say...pronounce it just like like the name of French poet and playrwright...(PS neither the Birthday Party or the Pop Group are or were particularly obscure)...
My favourite band, as my name says!
That cat must have spent days on the keyboard writing the lyrics to their songs
Blue Bell Knoll is a timeless masterpiece. I have it signed by Robin Guthrie and Simon Raymonde. Simon actually phoned me last year and I missed his call! I kind of know the founder Will Heggie too.
~ C 10 - 2024
Some great Cocteau Twins albums.
Smash Hits magazine was just aimed at tweens/teens and TOTP wasn't for serious music fans, just the sort of people that listen to mainstream radio because they can't handle the roaring silence in their head otherwise. That may sound damning, TOTP and radio were certainly great gateways for a little kid to develop their own music taste and that's definitely a good thing, but I wouldn't dream of letting a stranger choose music for me - in such a coproate format.
Now... in hindsight, NOT doing TOTP/BBC probably kept them safer than they would otherwise have been.
9:50 foreshadowing!
as John Peel once said to me: "dont be so fucking stupid"
i heard Cocteau Twins on the Co-Op radio earlier.
it did not make me feel young
I listened to the Cocteau Twins from very early on "probably on John Peel", I fell for them instantly, I have never been interested in knowing what the lyrics are, it doesn't matter to me, it sounds incredible and that in music I find more interesting/important. In 84 John Peel came to my house while friends were there, Peels ever favourate band "The Undertones" had split but a friend at the house at the time had a demo of a couple of demo songs by That Petrol Emotion, Peel was in awe but had to keep quiet about it until the following year. Search John Peel DJ to get an idea of just how influential he was in the music industry and radio, it would make a documentary by itself.
Hey! Just so you know, I think it was last week or the week before, JJ reacted to another British music (possibly Dexys) video. John Peel was mentioned and JJ looked him up to get all Peel's details. So now JJ knows all about John Peel, including the details of his 1st marriage when he was 25 & his bride was 15.. and the children he encouraged to perform fellatio on him when he was hosting shows. Some of the girls were as young as 12 & 13!
That’s a history of them I don’t remember at all…and I first heard them via their John Pee sessions fyi there was originally no drummer, all the drums were on a reel to reel tape machine, so that once at an Edinburgh gig I was at they had to rewind it for the encore. My favourite EP is Tiny Dynamite
Tiny Dynamine.
@AlexByth I just checked my 12" single, and my God, you're right. I have been saying it wrong for 39 years! It's Pink Orange Red I love, and I know that's correct as I just put it on
@@zakstarchild Edinburgh gig - December 1984? "Give it up for the bastard!" etc?
I'm here for the commeters sh**stirring following GGL's video 😂🍿
Maybe you will stay and realise why people like JJ and jumped to his defence
@@W0rdsandMus1c I was being tongue in cheek. I'm a JJ fan too.
@@richmorris2870 🙂👍
Me too 😅 I thought there'd be more shade thrown - at the offenders, that is! Not JJ.
JJ think of Beau Bridges, son of f Lloyd Bridges who was an actor and his sons and grandson have followed suit. Cocteau rhymes with Beau and bureau, from the French suffix. I did French at school, it’s useful for knowing how to pronounce things. I’ve never heard of the Cocteau Twins.
Or eau de cologne
The Inbetweeners reaction video would be cool! It would give you an insight on what teenage boys are like in the UK 😅
Cocteau Twins were not very commercial you either love them or hate them my mate was into um that’s how I got into um they have got some right Earworms you can’t get um out ya head .Nice one dude 🇬🇧✌️
No replies from JJLA, still subbed though.
Talking of Bananarama Trash Theory has a great video on Cruel Summer.
Sadly, this misses off Frazer’s romance with Jeff Buckley and their unreleased collaboration “all flowers in time face towards the sun”
Beautiful song
19:50 - I don't see Brian's reaction as a politically correct refusal, I see it in a completely different way: he recognised that if he had taken control of the production, he was going to "taint" Cocteau Twins' unique sound and that's someting he would never do.
32:40 - "WOW!", it's all I can say to your unphased reaction to Massive Attack. Please don't tell me you've never heard of them!
You just got called out on the girl gone London channel 😂😂😂
Wait, "Four-Calendar Cafe" came with a lyric sheet? I never got a lyric sheet. I think that's guff.
My CD has no lyrics either.
You GOTTA hear john Frusciante doing 'Song to The Siren' ;) The whole album is really something special
I love his playing and sense of melody! I need to check it out, thanks!
@@JJLAReacts nice, yeh frusciante has some really great solo albums. Love to hear what you think 👍🏼
Check out a UK music group The Thompson Twins. They're a trio.
Surely you jest.
Hi. Have you seen Girl Gone London's latest reaction?
I think you were mixing up Cocteau Twins with The Thompson Twins who were a trio with similar hairstyles 😂
Portishead!!
Look at the mission or the cult 80's brit goth,Cheers..
Is this thing working? Ian Dury and the Blockheads.......please.
If you really enjoy the acts that purposefully mimed badly on TOTP, I think you might get a kick out of seeing how bad The Beatles (especially John Lennon) were at miming on the forerunner to TOTP which was called Ready, Steady, Go! Which was a brilliant series that was reshown in the late 80’s or early 90’s when I was in my teens. There is an episode where Paul McCartney judged some girls from the audience dancing/miming and a few years later he wrote a song about the girl who won when she hit the headlines for running away from home…the song of course was She’s Leaving Home from Sgt. Peppers. But Ready, Steady, Go! was also where most of the UK’s youth were introduced to Motown, when Dusty Springfield I presented a Motown showcase episode…there are also apparently many stories of the Motown artists being shocked by how irrelevant the colour of their skin was during the tour of the UK that they carried out at the same time.
As for the Cocteau Twins, their one of those bands that I’m a little too young and too old to be in to…it’s the same with the Jesus and Mary Chain, though I love every song I’ve ever heard, I just don’t seek them out to listen to for some reason but my eldest sibling who is seven years older than me, still goes to see the Mary Chain every time they’re on tour and we’ve both been to see the likes of Primal Scream (whose singer, Bobby Gillespie used to be the drummer in the Mary Chain)…we even saw them together at the NME stage, Glastonbury ‘92.
never heard of them. sad me!
'eau' is pronounced 'oa' in French
That fact about Robert Smith listening to them to get prepared for his wedding day is something I didn’t know I need.
Love the Cocteau Twins, one of the best Scottish bands ever!
They are Bob Smith's favourite band.
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oh gods not the Coc Twins urrrgggh and images of THE idiot. Johnny Marr is a god and thank the gods he left the Smiths. Now if you want the true indie greats of the 80s it'd be The Cure, Depeche Mode, Elvis Costello, The The and Gary Numan. Now those people influenced so so much of what came after them. Ah i remember driving a certain Mr Cook nuts asking him to play Infected when he started work hehehehe
thats 1 of the easons would not go on top of the pops only played live and saw t,o,t,p was a shallow pop teen show ,
They lip-sync'd on the Angel Cassas show on Spanish TV, and - she might have spanked herself in the Alas Dies Laughing tv spot but that '84 mimed performance was the only time a tv audience saw Liz get sufficiently wound up to punch herself either side of her head. [♥]
There is a slight implication here that the Beatles were better than the Cocteau Twins which I find incomprehensible.
Welp, they say it’s all subjective 😂
Dude, you made it into a kaylyn video, your face anyway, and it's not one that you can react to 😂😂😂
JJ's name should not be mentioned in the same breath as the inane Tyler Rumple. A. older Irish lady described Tyler as having a most punchable face. Don't want to condone violence but she wasn't wrong.
The Smiths = 💩 music.
The The