Try not to take the “rankings” too seriously as I kind of took on too much in this video. It’s both almost an Imaginarium tier list as well as best DPS, off field, and support of each element and as a result came out more confusing than it needs to be. I think there’s still good content in there but overall confusing. I’ll do better next time!
As much as you've built and tested so many different characters, I at least respect your opinion on how they rank. That beard is looking fantastic by the way.
Freminet is design for superconduct conduct teams. Build him physical and pair him with an off field electro unit. His E. Skill and Ult both hit with a cryo for a superconduct but then the last hit is a physical boosted attack.
@@baronsionis6855They could be a shielder like Layla, Yanfei or Thoma or they could be supports that fit into specific comps such as charged attack teams, hyperbloom teams(like nilou) or something along that line.
Something that Imaginarium Theater taught me is that I have a MIGHTY NEED for more artifact sets. I have sooo many characters that just share a few decent sets.
I think this is the weakness of whales. They may be able to stack up on constellations or get every characters, but you won't have enough time farming artifacts for all of them. On top of that, the limitation on how many artifact you can have in your storage is really limiting on how many you can keep before you are forced to fodder them into other artifacts to make room while farming. They definitely need to increase the storage limit on the artifacts or have a way to liquidate very bad artifacts onto other material that can upgrade artifacts.
After one year most of my 4* characters are still lvl20, even some of my 5* characters don't have gear. I have to farm exp, mora, skill material, ascension material, weapon material, then farming gear. It's easy if someone started playing 2+ years ago or a spender.
@baronsionis6855 I mean, it's not like it's in a horrible state. I pretty comfortably 36-star abyss every cycle and I still full cleared IT easily enough. I just started leveling characters after I had enough artifacts for abyss because I find that more enjoyable. That said, I actually have a reason to have each character have their own artifact set now.
Then there's me constantly stuck at 1800/1800 with many "good potential pieces" but not enough Exp to fully level those pieces up. I'm sure i'm not alone.
It’s been said a hundred times but Sigewinne really should’ve been tuned down a little (constellation-wise) and made into a 4*, it’s ridiculous that there’s only 3 Hydro 4*s this late into the game, with another hydro 5* on the way.
@@taylorgreen2954 A character that can heal your entire team, better than ANY healer with ZERO Energy Requirement and little field time is considered a 4 star character? Only Baizhu can fill this role and I'm glad that he is now just an option now. I don't mean to offend but you're far too out of touch being in the meta for so long that not all 5 star needs to be broken or meta changing to be a 5 star or not
Sigewinne should have been a four star character. The problem is Neuvillette cares for her too much so he gave her a star thus demoting him from a six star unit to a five star. What a stand up dragon boi
@@creativecontent3664i got him on accident and i still get yelled at for not building him. My most invested character atm is Arlecchino cause I love her playstyle. Even after getting Furina I still use her like a main.
i really like yae miko for imaginarium theater because of her ability to be played off field while also being a serviceable on fielder, esp if dendro's there. not many units have that flexibility and those that do (ganyu, ayato) rely on their burst to do their off field stuff and therefore need their build changed to work well in that alternate role. its so ncie when all you have are a bunch of off fielders and miko
I would put Venti right behind Kazuha. Venti's value has gone way up with Imaginarium Theater because there's a lot of trash mobs than can be sucked up by him. Also supports are way more valuable than on field dps's because you only need 1 on field dps but need 3 supports for each team.
Anemo travelers burst is actually so helpful for those monolith floors, and it’s not really a DPS loss like in the abyss because you don’t need nearly as much dps (And of course he’s a free character that can hold VV)
@@CarlosAnglada yeah like weapons and artifacts I understand because it’s a different kit so you need different things, but there’s no reason to drop the talents to 1, like just leave them how they are
So much this. A whole lot of characters don't work without their support characters or even without dedicated healer. And a lot of 4* are support for a specific 5* character or/and a specific playstyle. Amount of least somewhat universal characters is very low.
I mean, I largely disagree, because the game mode is set up to allow that. The Abyss has such tight DPS checks that you need to use a signature team - good to great units with meta supports, or meta units with good to great supports. But Imaginarium theater, to its credit, is pretty easy DPS wise. A unit like Nilou who, in the abyss is worthless without dendro supports and hydro only, probably is going to be a fine and even good addition to an imaginarium theater team damage wise. She’s hardly a dead unit, but you just need to try to use her outside of boss phases.
@@madzaisaand just the fact that so many characters are made with their elemental reactions in mind, pyro being a GREAT example with the first imaginarium theatre, overload is notoriously bad and many pyro characters are made with a big focus on elemental reactions (mainly vape for the many pyro dps’s but thoma and dehya are also pretty niche picks only really used in burn melt teams or burgeon team)
@@tylerbennett4488 tell me more about DPS checks. On Hard, f.e, "free" main DPS like Arlechino or Clorinde are pretty much useless against second boss, due to level 80 being not enough to deal with it. So you need them yourself, level 90, or another main DPS like Hu Tao, who require at least a somewhat working team to do her DPS. So you either need a proper "DPS-checked" main DPS unit, or pray to RND so you can have so strong combo like Bennett-Zianling-Fishl.
I thought it would be funny if that happens, but i realize it's still redeemable to some extent considering we can bring guest stars (different element than the 3 featured), plus the possibility of innate elemental auras on opponents like Slimes, Shields, Infused weapons etc.
Dang, i've listened to a lot of Jello talking in the past that it became some sort of BGM that doesn't disturb me even if i fell asleep halfway through (i was pulling an all-nighter last night). Will need to rewatch from the Pyro part.
So now that I leveled a bunch of unused 4*s for Imaginarium Theater, I have a new problem... I need to learn how to gear and play all these characters.
Placing my predictions before I watch the video, in order of Main dps, off field dps, and support. Pyro: Arlechinno/Xiangling/Bennett Hydro: Neuvilette/Xingqiu/Furina Electro: Chlorinde/Fischl/Kuki Cryo: Wriothesly/Rosaria?/Shenhe Dendro: Alhaithem/Nahida/Baizhu Anemo: Xiao/Sucrose?/Kazuha Geo: Navia/Chirori/Zhongli Honestly what this exercise showed me is the complete lack of off field supports outside of Hydro-
this new game mode is just making it obvious how few off field support/dps we actually have, even worse if you want to use male characters Most of the males are onfield dps or have kits that work against each other(Bennett c6 and Chongyun) and Natlan doesn’t seem like it’s going to change that
He isnt best in slot anywhere anymore when we talk about not baby investment, furina and yelan have completely powercrept him, he is still ok tho if the demand for hydro is too high i guess
Tf? Furina and Yelan (c0 and c1) don't apply enough hydro solo for hyperbloom teams while xq does, hydro is the most in demand element in the game for the application and xq is the best for it, I'm sorry, furina is for me miles above any other character in the game, but how the hell can you say furina and Yelan power crept xq if they don't even serve the same purpose? You don't even need to watch zajef for it, but if you only see numbers than yeah, ofc furina and Yelan are better, you're comparing a t5 and a fucking GOD to a t4 Just look at 4.7 abyss usage, all 3 of them are still top 10, if you say a unit that literally HALF the player base are still using has been power crept, I'm sorry but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
@@NycKFetzer even if you take into consideretion the hyperbloom teams, xinqiu isnt their ceiling (ofc talking the non copium ones, like alhaitham or cyno) we aint saying he is bad, we saying he isnt even remotely close in being that allmighty best unit, other than a meaningless deffensive utility he doesnt offer anything, yelan and furina are simply better
No way 😂 when I saw this thumbnail earlier I thought, "why is the T a random pink colour when he hasn't even included Cryo?", just opened UA-cam again and saw it's been changed to blue with Cryo 😂 jello the goat
Great video in its entirety but I love seeing Jello Impact give Charlotte the respect she deserves. She's one of my favorite units to run with furina or applying Cryo and I find a lot of people sleeping on her.
Thank you! I’ve been looking for a video like this. Been working on leveling/building characters for the theater (especially for cryo and geo cause those I haven’t focused on). Also interesting to see the distribution of four vs five stars and their roles among each element.
17:47 honestly she might be like raiden. half sub dps/buffer, half onfield dps. considering their patterns with sub dps/support archons, but also only dps pyro 5 stars, seems the most likely imo tbh, if she had a similar kit to dehya it would cracked. cuz like.. in THEORY her kit is great - off field pyro damage on skill, dps on burst. if the pyro archon is basically just dehya with actually good scalings and maybe the addition of buffs, she’d be cracked
If we are talking about imaginarium theatre Neuvillette is the best hydro and not furina. With current dps requirements a c0r0 Neuvillette with an average build can easily solo most of the rooms in theatre meaning you can put any bad/unbuilt units that you just raised quickly to pad the character count with him and you'll still face no issues. He requires no good supports to work so you get to save those to help other damage dealers. Basically he helps a lot with team building and character management. If we are talking about anything except imaginarium theatre where you can actually make real teams furina is the best hydro because she can be used with almost everyone and make them strong.. But in the theatre? You better pray you get a good healer in your selection. And one of your decent dps characters for her to buff..
Ehh furina still just has more value because imaginarium favors sub dps way more for flexibility and her buffs are insane especially with cons, which helps with wtv dps you’re stuck with. There’s a healer option for every element so I don’t think that will be an issue for furina and they’d be dumb to make a anti furina theatre when most of fontaines dps even neuvi have similar hp loss and gain mechanics as she does.
Her damage being on her elemental skill plus not needing to be triggered by normal attacks really shines in random non-synergistic teams. Plus we need a lot of characters, so most likely people who have both Neuvillette and Furina would bring both of them anyway, regardless of who is "best". The opponents don't have a lot of HP compared to Abyss, so her Burst isn't as necessary in comparison.
@@Marz333 Her buff is heavily dependent on the healer unless she is c2... And the fact that she needs specific type of character to go along with her in a gamemode where you get characters at random already puts her below the character that can do it all on his own and can use any 3 characters you can't find a purpose for otherwise. Also yes there's a healer for every element, but are you gonna stack your selection of 18 chars with like 5 healers just for furina then use one of em and have 4 others essentially be dead weight? Or you'll put one or maybe two and then hope you pull them out? To be fair we still haven't had a rotation with hydro available so only time will tell, but what i can tell you right now is that during this rotation most of my problems were having mismatched supports and dpses in my selection. In those moments if i had neuvillette i wouldn't care about the mismatching suports id just play him with anyone and smash 2 chambers get more characters hopefully solve the problem. If i had furina id still be ducked because i don't have a healer available.
@@verzetta Yes, true. And the best option is to have both. They are both top tier units. But this is a theoretical "if i had to pick one to have on my account for this specific gamemode who would it be" scenario. And yeah you're right im sure her dps will shine through but it kinda drops off fast if you have no healers and its not enough by itself to clear a room so you still need to burn either a decent dps character or a good sub dps character or maybe even both depending on investment..
This is a really good point. Furina without a healer is not that good. Being at 50% hp isn’t necessarily that critical in this mode but she can’t utilize her burst if there isn’t a healer. Although if u put all the healers there are just for furina, she can probably solo the game mode. And those dead weight (the rest of the healers) can then be part of Neuvi’s team. If u have them both, that is.
It's crazy how hydro has the best character in each category: Best dps: Neuvillette Best support; furina Best sub dps: yelan/furina/xingqiu 2nd/3rd best healer: kokomi Best Reaction driver and dps : nilou Honorable mention to dendro and pyro for having one contender for best in each role as well: Dps: arlecchino-alhaitam Sub dps: xianling-nahida Support: Bennett-nahida/baizhu Healer: bennet(not the best by far but it's still a great addition bonus for what he does) -baizhu (the best if we are only condidering pure healing) Reaction dps and driver: alhaitam/nahida (or anything that can run good hyperbloom)
@@Lilithmorningstarq me who have all (exept clorinde):🤨 In pure team(beat possible team for each) damage to single target arlecchino has the highest damage then hu tao followed by Neuvillette and then alhaitam In any other situation than single target Neuvillette is the strongest and then you can argue for other teams and characters for secend and below places+ Neuvillette has so much QoL that even if he wasn't as strong as he is he would still be a top choice
I've been on a grind to get everyone up to Ascension Level 6 (already have all the boss drops for my roster and shortlist), and get everyone's Talents up to Lv.6, which the simplification to the Mondstadt and Liyue domains will be a great boon for.
I’ve been taking a break from Genshin but since I started I have felt a yelan shaped hole in my account. Love her character, need her dps/ versatility, and want her overworld. She is coming back and I have a guaranteed and enough wishes to hop into the game and get her. Cannot wait. Those armpits will be mine
Something that has worked decently for me in IT is stacking off-field dps. You don't know what team you're going to get so you don't know if you can actually build a team around a main DPS. I've been stuck with too many on-field dps/hypercarries which has ruined my runs, but when you stack lots of off-fields you still get a lot of value from all of them even if individually they don't deal as much damage as an on-fielder. Off-fields have way higher value for me in IT than on-fielders and I think I will start pulling for more of them.
I see it like this, at least for accounts that are barely clearing the character requirements or struggling to get max primos: Some units are good for the abyss-style timed bossfights, which are 100% the hardest part. Some units are good for the less demanding intermediate chambers. You're only going to use units twice in most cases. Think in terms of building an abyss-style "dream" team (made of any units, rental, friend, yours) that will clear the boss FIRST, and only then fill the roster with flex units and supports who can prop up your fill-in DPS / the Rental DPS or onfield themselves in the middle chambers to SAVE YOUR BEST TEAM for the hardest content. If C6 Faru + Wanderer is your "dream" team that you have built and ready to go, don't skip Faru for Lynette just because Lynette is more flexible in other teams. So far it's pretty reasonable to expect you'll get 3/4 of your best team by the 8th chamber and can pick buffs specifically for them. The timer is unforgiving and you will need the dream team. Go ahead and use a scuffed anemo traveler DPS team or whatever you can scrape together to barely-clear in the mid-chambers to save at least one charge on the big guns. tl;dr pick to clear boss chambers
I saved about 250 ish pulls on Raiden's last banner and C6ed Chevy in the process and can confirm she is better than Bennett. She does large dam, large heal, large buff and is not bound by the stupid circle, also looks cooler.
This is real actually. I tested all my Arlecchino teams and an overload team with an underbuilt Chevreuse did the most damage and comfort. Adding Bennet in a Chevy team would be like Yelan & Xingqiu or Yae & Fischl tho. It's amazing.
@@SunnyHikikOmori To me her being able to basically rapid fire 3 aimed shots is a normal thing so when I see Jello messing around with her and only doing 1 things look weird.
At this point they should put albedo, shenhe, Eula and maybe klee in the standard banner if is so hard for them to ever appear in a banner, specially with the amount of characters that imaginarium theater needs, maybe in the future they will need to do this
Notice how in every slot the best 5 star is an archon (ignore anemo). So if you ever feel like you're lacking a good character just pull for the archon because you won't regret it.
Thing is, the Theater is so laughably easy that i finished it with characters i forgot to put artifacts on...there’s no need to stress about it imo I mean if someone only has like 4 characters build than yeah, that will be a problem but unless you started very recently which is not likely the case, that shouln’t be a thing The whole mode is a bit of a dissapointment tbh, not bad but it took me like 20 minutes to clear
a revelation of mine was the gaming-lynette combo for the ley line defense. lynette taunts the enemey while my unbuilt gaming deals a decent amount of damage and self heals they practically saved me by being both level 70, level 2 talent, no artifact levels, level 50 weapon (gaming is c4 tho, lynette c1)
@@HughDancy-rl5sy i mean I didn't really got the bonuses i just finished it with the necessary ley line hp but for me i built lynette with energy recharge have the other two character be the battery for both gaming and lynette to have their burst always ready pick the robots enemy thingy immediately attack the short range enemy that always jump so that their attack would be targeted towards you, the other one would attack the ley line but not that much. put lynnete's burst in the middle and this will taunt both then attack with gaming (his cons actually help so much because he solo carried this team with no healing but you can choose a healer like sayu dori for more heals) don't deal too much damage! lmao it will be a 2 minute match but since you only need 2 characters you can use this battle to scrap your least built characters
From what I have seen all archons have followed a pattern of the more common use of the elements as well as a sub dps I would say the pyro archon will fallow a similar scheme which would be dps and sub dps I hope she has an off field play style but I also don’t think it will become that way
The Amount of Hydro 4 stars being that Low is Crazy : Like you can have an Off-Field Buffer , I’ll name some for ya Off-Field Vape Buffer Skill : Casts a Throwable Object that is a certain Radius , When In that Radius Vaporize Reactions will increase by 50% Damage and Grant 10% Hydro DMG Bonus and 40% Pyro DMG Bonus , Further Increases Vape Damage by 15% if Pyro is Inflicted on the Enemy Prior to the Hydro Infusion Created Ultimate : Any Enemy surrounding the On-field Character will Be casted with continuous Hydro Application every 4s (enough to apply Pyro Before the Hydro) , This will further Increase Vaporizes Damage by another 25% When Pyro is applied Before Hydro An Off-Field Freeze Buffer Skill : Casts a Thing that follows the On-Field Character(only for the character that casts it in Co-Op) around that Enemies Nearby , This will inflict them with a status that activates when Cryo is Applied to the enemy , This status will go off After 15s. When the Status has been activated , Cryo DMG Bonus is increased by 25% Ultimate : Any Enemy in a 20m Radius that is inflicted with the aforementioned Status will be caused A Top Status that will cause them to Lose HP depending on EM , This is further increased by the Cryo Appliers Cryo DMG Bonus
19:35 probably just misspoke, but Yaoyao is *not* always free, unless you're talking about lantern rite rewards then yes she's technically free (you can argue this is "always" once a year 😂).
Not sure whether this is mentioned, although, it does not really matter, alloy cannot be used in imagarium theater if i am not wrong as i remember seeing this as hoyoverse did not give alloy VA additional lines when talking to her in the theater
Just when I talked myself out of trying for Yelan you talk me right back into it... Let's see if will power or peer pressure win the day. (I have Furina and C6 Xingqiu, I don't have Kazuha or Zhongli... it'd definitely be smarter to go for them.)
Then why are you on a meta channel in the first place? If you don’t look at meta at least a tiny bit it’s going to be hard to clear the hardest content, which is the reason why so many people use Furina, Kazuha, Nahida, Yelan and so on
@@justawalter9752 You have to know what generally the idea of everything is so u can then break the rules here and there and still have fun bro. I currently rock Arle / Navia / Furina / (Anything based on a how I feel) but I just tasted Navia and hot damn shes fucking fun as fuck. Seen so many to say skip her but hot damn thats the bet 40 pulls spent right there.
I'm mostly concerned for my lack of cryo and dendro characters, I'm in the process of building some cryo characters but I don't actually have dendro options. It's my least favorite element so I've got the characters built that I have but the only really good built one is Tighnari currently.
I just realised that there is only 1 electro 5star that i have (and wanted tbh). its crazy how few 5star electro there are. where as i have all the 5star hydros 💀 except for the bad one
Other than disagreeing with putting the general banner units in the 4 star tiers, Hydro and Electro I have no issue with. I think Venti might actually be the best 5 star Anemo for Theatre, I'm not joking. Theatre did so much for him, he's extremely potent in this mode compared to Spiral so I would have put Venti, Kazuha, and Xianyun in those top spots in that order. Xiao is fantastic, and I personally have his dream team myself and it's very effective, but Xiao and evening Wanderer relies too much on specific supports for maximal effectiveness. You ought to value a unit's splashability more within Theatre ranking. Xianyun enables tons of characters to become DPS's that might underperform if attempted otherwise (Diluc/Chongyun/Razor/Gaming for example). Your Anemo 4 stars were fine but I'd replace Jean with Faruzan - even the trial faruzan we just had in this cycle was perfectly servicable and there's lots of strong Anemo units for her to amplify. Cryo 5 stars were fine. For 4 stars I'd probably replace Layla with Kaeya myself, but I don't fault you for your choice, it's perfectly reasonable. For Pyro, I agree with your top 3 (and only because you made a great point that Pyro will not always be paired with Electro in the future, presumably), but I'd put Thoma above Xiangling. Xiangling really likes specific teammates (particularly Bennet), but you won't always guarantee the best comp for her. I like Thoma more for his diversity, ease of use, splashability, and defensive perks. Haha, to your point about the Archon - every Archon with the exception of Raiden has focused on off field capabilities. Even Raiden can be built to be used off-field. I think the assumption that Mavuika will be an off-field dps is a well founded one based on that. Your actual placements for the 5 stars for Pyro were fine - to be honest it's kind of hard to mess that one up. ...I did not realize there was only 3 5star Dendro, wow. Lol. For both 4 and 5 star I have no complaints either except swapping Tighnari with Collei since I don't think he should count. For Geo, replace Noelle with Yunjin and put her in 3rd place - Noelle relies heavily on Furina to be effective and Geo may not always run with Hydro. For 5 stars, I'd actually replace Albedo with Chiori. Chiori's maximal dps potential is unlocked only with a construct, which only 3 characters provide currently and that may not be available when you need to field her. Albedo is a great general unit to put either on his own or with others, constructs or not, and his Burst even gives an EM boost, which has some utility. Obviously normally Chiori is the better pick but I think Albedo is more flexible unless you have C1 Chiori - but to be fair, the difference in their Theatre effectiveness is not so far apart that I'm gonna roast you for picking Chiori - just sharing my two cents.
She shines in optimal teams (Melt enabler, Freeze battery etc), but in Imaginarium Theater it's hard to form optimal teams, and subdps with good damage would most likely be relatively preferred. The opponents have lower damage compared to Abyss too, so besides non-optimal use of her offensive utility, her defensive utility also has less value here.
My experience thusfar with cryo has been Layla. That's it. AR 55 and haven't felt the need to use any other Cryo. Please buff hoyo, Ice is my element in fantasy...
Ahh... me who has all the limited dendro characters, the top five hydro, and 2/4 of the electro limited 5* (lost on Clorinde's banner and never pulled Cyno because I couldn't really play him very well in trial) clearly tells me my preferences. LOL But also why I've been using the hyperbloom crutch (with ZL's shield and Koko's heals) throughout this first year of playing.
I wished right now for Navia (I had 114 wishes and said let’s wish 14 of them) and at my 11th wish I skip the animation not thinking of much AND THERE SHE IS!?
I wanna say, ganyu is NOT great in theatre- well unless you’re doing off field. then yeah she’s good but if you’re trying to use dps ganyu it is VERY hard to guarantee a shield and fuck is she hard to play without one. not only can you not guarantee the element of your shielder (say you only have zhongli and/or kirara built, but there’s no geo/dendro) and even if you have layla or diona built, or any other shielder who can enter, you once again can’t guarantee getting that shielder when you get ganyu
I actually think Wanderer is better than Xiao cause I find him a bit more flexible. Sure, they're both hypercarries that suffer damage loss when they're not in their optimal teams, but Wanderer can also be a driver for off field DPS such as Yelan or Raiden, and if you have pyro or cryo he's bound to have some decent buffs. And since he's not burst reliant, I think he's a bit easier to build and pair up with different characters cause he doesn't require that much energy. Sure, he's a bit wonky to play without a shield and in Imaginarium theater a shield is not a guarantee but personally I think his flexibility makes up for that.
I have a pretty good spread across my roster of 76 but some are in the prison of the first ascension, including C1 Nari & Kaveh. My Dori & Sara will get attention at some point as both are C6. As for Geo, all my 4* are C6 & built as are my 5* (built not C6) & I'm only missing Chiori which is no loss in my book.
Siggy is not bad for theater, if you meet her energy needs. Wide area cone, low hp mobs, reactions screwed over due to mode limitations. And if you have a Yae or Fischl, and no Kuki equiv, can benefit from her passive.
Yae is better than Clor due to off field factor. With Kuki, dendro is not the key factor. Hydro or pyro access is. With either, she is great. Without, not so much.
Try not to take the “rankings” too seriously as I kind of took on too much in this video. It’s both almost an Imaginarium tier list as well as best DPS, off field, and support of each element and as a result came out more confusing than it needs to be. I think there’s still good content in there but overall confusing. I’ll do better next time!
As much as you've built and tested so many different characters, I at least respect your opinion on how they rank. That beard is looking fantastic by the way.
Love it! Especially now that it’s worth thinking about who to build from each element! ❤
For me, the biggest issue was the monolith leyline defense thing, so maybe characters best for that for each element 😆
Freminet is design for superconduct conduct teams. Build him physical and pair him with an off field electro unit. His E. Skill and Ult both hit with a cryo for a superconduct but then the last hit is a physical boosted attack.
@@DefinitelyNotAFerretjust save a ranged DPS (e.g. wanderer for this rotation) for that stage, or any CC character.
The lack of 4 star hydro characters is actually crazy
What would you want a future hydro 4 star to do that isn't already covered by other units?
@@baronsionis6855mini yelan, I.E. small damage bonus in the form of a dedicated attack type bonus Normal/Skill or just a small universal damage bonus
@@baronsionis6855Neat hydro shielder with good uptime like Layla. Preferably claymore user as well since we never have that yet.
Yeah especially considering Sigewinne should've been one / already is in practice
@@baronsionis6855They could be a shielder like Layla, Yanfei or Thoma or they could be supports that fit into specific comps such as charged attack teams, hyperbloom teams(like nilou) or something along that line.
Love how the archons were always top in each respective element with an archon.
Also, Kazuha is clearly the anemo archon
Something that Imaginarium Theater taught me is that I have a MIGHTY NEED for more artifact sets. I have sooo many characters that just share a few decent sets.
Out of curiosity what were you farming the past while if your account is in such a state?
I think this is the weakness of whales. They may be able to stack up on constellations or get every characters, but you won't have enough time farming artifacts for all of them.
On top of that, the limitation on how many artifact you can have in your storage is really limiting on how many you can keep before you are forced to fodder them into other artifacts to make room while farming. They definitely need to increase the storage limit on the artifacts or have a way to liquidate very bad artifacts onto other material that can upgrade artifacts.
After one year most of my 4* characters are still lvl20, even some of my 5* characters don't have gear. I have to farm exp, mora, skill material, ascension material, weapon material, then farming gear. It's easy if someone started playing 2+ years ago or a spender.
@baronsionis6855 I mean, it's not like it's in a horrible state. I pretty comfortably 36-star abyss every cycle and I still full cleared IT easily enough. I just started leveling characters after I had enough artifacts for abyss because I find that more enjoyable. That said, I actually have a reason to have each character have their own artifact set now.
Then there's me constantly stuck at 1800/1800 with many "good potential pieces" but not enough Exp to fully level those pieces up. I'm sure i'm not alone.
Can’t wait for an imaginarium theater with the elements of Anemo, Dendro, and Geo, for the theme of “no reactions, f you”
Or Cryo, Dendro and Geo, just so they can say there is some kind of reaction
@@hoaithunguyen4473What reaction? 😳
@@Feathertail2205 crystalize cyro and geo
@@Feathertail2205 still navia domain
I dread Cryo, Dendro, Geo more.
Mono Anemo is good at least and can swirl preexisting elements. Cryo without hydro, pyro and anemo is dead.
"three four stars of each element", well we are stunned with how much options we have
It’s been said a hundred times but Sigewinne really should’ve been tuned down a little (constellation-wise) and made into a 4*, it’s ridiculous that there’s only 3 Hydro 4*s this late into the game, with another hydro 5* on the way.
@@taylorgreen2954 Best element baby.
@@taylorgreen2954nah I’m so happy she’s a five star. I don’t build four stars but I don’t hesitate to full power 5 star hydros
@taylorgreen2954 yeah, agreed, she didn't deserve being a 5* to begin with
@@taylorgreen2954 A character that can heal your entire team, better than ANY healer with ZERO Energy Requirement and little field time is considered a 4 star character?
Only Baizhu can fill this role and I'm glad that he is now just an option now.
I don't mean to offend but you're far too out of touch being in the meta for so long that not all 5 star needs to be broken or meta changing to be a 5 star or not
Sigewinne should have been a four star character.
The problem is Neuvillette cares for her too much so he gave her a star thus demoting him from a six star unit to a five star. What a stand up dragon boi
Certified Chad. Generosity 100
Also gave us free 10 pulls Gigachad
Why are neuv fans so damn annoying😅
@@creativecontent3664 The only one annoying is you
@@creativecontent3664i got him on accident and i still get yelled at for not building him. My most invested character atm is Arlecchino cause I love her playstyle. Even after getting Furina I still use her like a main.
i really like yae miko for imaginarium theater because of her ability to be played off field while also being a serviceable on fielder, esp if dendro's there. not many units have that flexibility and those that do (ganyu, ayato) rely on their burst to do their off field stuff and therefore need their build changed to work well in that alternate role. its so ncie when all you have are a bunch of off fielders and miko
@@Toqrainbow tho she does have the disadvantage of having really subpar damage as an on-fielder
I would put Venti right behind Kazuha. Venti's value has gone way up with Imaginarium Theater because there's a lot of trash mobs than can be sucked up by him. Also supports are way more valuable than on field dps's because you only need 1 on field dps but need 3 supports for each team.
You want 2 dps much of the time, because no ideal teams and all those limited damage windows characters.
Monolith chamber is unironically harder than all boss floors if you have a trash line up
Anemo travelers burst is actually so helpful for those monolith floors, and it’s not really a DPS loss like in the abyss because you don’t need nearly as much dps
(And of course he’s a free character that can hold VV)
THIS. NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE BUILT IN RES SHRED EITHER
Yeah the best shit being the VV holder.
yes, but it's incredibly annoying having to rebuild Traveler in each region: talents, artifacts, weapons - it's crazy
@@CarlosAnglada yeah like weapons and artifacts I understand because it’s a different kit so you need different things, but there’s no reason to drop the talents to 1, like just leave them how they are
how do you use traveler for monolith
I just realized imaginarium theater is even worse than I thought because lots of chararcters are specialized.
So much this. A whole lot of characters don't work without their support characters or even without dedicated healer. And a lot of 4* are support for a specific 5* character or/and a specific playstyle. Amount of least somewhat universal characters is very low.
Childe in freeze theater this month:
I mean, I largely disagree, because the game mode is set up to allow that. The Abyss has such tight DPS checks that you need to use a signature team - good to great units with meta supports, or meta units with good to great supports. But Imaginarium theater, to its credit, is pretty easy DPS wise. A unit like Nilou who, in the abyss is worthless without dendro supports and hydro only, probably is going to be a fine and even good addition to an imaginarium theater team damage wise. She’s hardly a dead unit, but you just need to try to use her outside of boss phases.
@@madzaisaand just the fact that so many characters are made with their elemental reactions in mind, pyro being a GREAT example with the first imaginarium theatre, overload is notoriously bad and many pyro characters are made with a big focus on elemental reactions (mainly vape for the many pyro dps’s but thoma and dehya are also pretty niche picks only really used in burn melt teams or burgeon team)
@@tylerbennett4488 tell me more about DPS checks. On Hard, f.e, "free" main DPS like Arlechino or Clorinde are pretty much useless against second boss, due to level 80 being not enough to deal with it. So you need them yourself, level 90, or another main DPS like Hu Tao, who require at least a somewhat working team to do her DPS. So you either need a proper "DPS-checked" main DPS unit, or pray to RND so you can have so strong combo like Bennett-Zianling-Fishl.
I NEEDED THIS SO BAD AND LIKE ALWAYS JELLO ANSWRED MY PRAYERS!!!! THANK YOU JELLO
I’m waiting for the day Imaginarium Theater forces us to use Anemo Dendro and Geo
I thought it would be funny if that happens, but i realize it's still redeemable to some extent considering we can bring guest stars (different element than the 3 featured), plus the possibility of innate elemental auras on opponents like Slimes, Shields, Infused weapons etc.
I hope we dont
Please no all my good characters are hydro
Mono geo is workable, others? Nah
@@vincikeeper1581 Mono anemo too (Xiao-Faruzan-Xianyun-Jean)
The fact I have all the limited electro characters but only have one limited hydro character i.e. Furina is quite the shocker
Pun intended
Nice joke, Cyno. Now put Cyno in the same team as Furina.
One of my favorites UA-camrs, keep it up Jello!
Dang, i've listened to a lot of Jello talking in the past that it became some sort of BGM that doesn't disturb me even if i fell asleep halfway through (i was pulling an all-nighter last night). Will need to rewatch from the Pyro part.
"Aaand yeah, Kaveh is really bad." Bro I cracked up LMFAO. poor Kaveh, he’s trying his best 😔
So now that I leveled a bunch of unused 4*s for Imaginarium Theater, I have a new problem... I need to learn how to gear and play all these characters.
Placing my predictions before I watch the video, in order of Main dps, off field dps, and support.
Pyro: Arlechinno/Xiangling/Bennett
Hydro: Neuvilette/Xingqiu/Furina
Electro: Chlorinde/Fischl/Kuki
Cryo: Wriothesly/Rosaria?/Shenhe
Dendro: Alhaithem/Nahida/Baizhu
Anemo: Xiao/Sucrose?/Kazuha
Geo: Navia/Chirori/Zhongli
Honestly what this exercise showed me is the complete lack of off field supports outside of Hydro-
this new game mode is just making it obvious how few off field support/dps we actually have, even worse if you want to use male characters
Most of the males are onfield dps or have kits that work against each other(Bennett c6 and Chongyun) and Natlan doesn’t seem like it’s going to change that
"Xingqiu is generally quite good" said him about one of the best characters in the game. Ok, quite high standards around here
He isnt best in slot anywhere anymore when we talk about not baby investment, furina and yelan have completely powercrept him, he is still ok tho if the demand for hydro is too high i guess
Coz we have Furina and Yelan who can deal more damage and offers buffs too
zajef viewer spotted
Tf? Furina and Yelan (c0 and c1) don't apply enough hydro solo for hyperbloom teams while xq does, hydro is the most in demand element in the game for the application and xq is the best for it, I'm sorry, furina is for me miles above any other character in the game, but how the hell can you say furina and Yelan power crept xq if they don't even serve the same purpose?
You don't even need to watch zajef for it, but if you only see numbers than yeah, ofc furina and Yelan are better, you're comparing a t5 and a fucking GOD to a t4
Just look at 4.7 abyss usage, all 3 of them are still top 10, if you say a unit that literally HALF the player base are still using has been power crept, I'm sorry but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
@@NycKFetzer even if you take into consideretion the hyperbloom teams, xinqiu isnt their ceiling (ofc talking the non copium ones, like alhaitham or cyno) we aint saying he is bad, we saying he isnt even remotely close in being that allmighty best unit, other than a meaningless deffensive utility he doesnt offer anything, yelan and furina are simply better
No way 😂 when I saw this thumbnail earlier I thought, "why is the T a random pink colour when he hasn't even included Cryo?", just opened UA-cam again and saw it's been changed to blue with Cryo 😂 jello the goat
Great video in its entirety but I love seeing Jello Impact give Charlotte the respect she deserves.
She's one of my favorite units to run with furina or applying Cryo and I find a lot of people sleeping on her.
The best geos being shielders
Nilou is fine for IT you just switch her build to a vape build if you can’t run dendro hydro that season
Thank you! I’ve been looking for a video like this. Been working on leveling/building characters for the theater (especially for cryo and geo cause those I haven’t focused on).
Also interesting to see the distribution of four vs five stars and their roles among each element.
I feel like Venti clears in this setting
Been looking for something like this tysm Mr. Impact ❤
17:47
honestly she might be like raiden. half sub dps/buffer, half onfield dps. considering their patterns with sub dps/support archons, but also only dps pyro 5 stars, seems the most likely imo
tbh, if she had a similar kit to dehya it would cracked. cuz like.. in THEORY her kit is great - off field pyro damage on skill, dps on burst. if the pyro archon is basically just dehya with actually good scalings and maybe the addition of buffs, she’d be cracked
If we are talking about imaginarium theatre Neuvillette is the best hydro and not furina. With current dps requirements a c0r0 Neuvillette with an average build can easily solo most of the rooms in theatre meaning you can put any bad/unbuilt units that you just raised quickly to pad the character count with him and you'll still face no issues. He requires no good supports to work so you get to save those to help other damage dealers. Basically he helps a lot with team building and character management. If we are talking about anything except imaginarium theatre where you can actually make real teams furina is the best hydro because she can be used with almost everyone and make them strong.. But in the theatre? You better pray you get a good healer in your selection. And one of your decent dps characters for her to buff..
Ehh furina still just has more value because imaginarium favors sub dps way more for flexibility and her buffs are insane especially with cons, which helps with wtv dps you’re stuck with. There’s a healer option for every element so I don’t think that will be an issue for furina and they’d be dumb to make a anti furina theatre when most of fontaines dps even neuvi have similar hp loss and gain mechanics as she does.
Her damage being on her elemental skill plus not needing to be triggered by normal attacks really shines in random non-synergistic teams. Plus we need a lot of characters, so most likely people who have both Neuvillette and Furina would bring both of them anyway, regardless of who is "best". The opponents don't have a lot of HP compared to Abyss, so her Burst isn't as necessary in comparison.
@@Marz333 Her buff is heavily dependent on the healer unless she is c2... And the fact that she needs specific type of character to go along with her in a gamemode where you get characters at random already puts her below the character that can do it all on his own and can use any 3 characters you can't find a purpose for otherwise. Also yes there's a healer for every element, but are you gonna stack your selection of 18 chars with like 5 healers just for furina then use one of em and have 4 others essentially be dead weight? Or you'll put one or maybe two and then hope you pull them out?
To be fair we still haven't had a rotation with hydro available so only time will tell, but what i can tell you right now is that during this rotation most of my problems were having mismatched supports and dpses in my selection.
In those moments if i had neuvillette i wouldn't care about the mismatching suports id just play him with anyone and smash 2 chambers get more characters hopefully solve the problem.
If i had furina id still be ducked because i don't have a healer available.
@@verzetta Yes, true. And the best option is to have both. They are both top tier units. But this is a theoretical "if i had to pick one to have on my account for this specific gamemode who would it be" scenario. And yeah you're right im sure her dps will shine through but it kinda drops off fast if you have no healers and its not enough by itself to clear a room so you still need to burn either a decent dps character or a good sub dps character or maybe even both depending on investment..
This is a really good point. Furina without a healer is not that good. Being at 50% hp isn’t necessarily that critical in this mode but she can’t utilize her burst if there isn’t a healer.
Although if u put all the healers there are just for furina, she can probably solo the game mode. And those dead weight (the rest of the healers) can then be part of Neuvi’s team. If u have them both, that is.
Great video, I needed this to help me see who I really want to wish for. I think I'm doing good so far.
I really want a pyro 5 star support. In hopes that the archon will be a better buffer than Bennett
All Archon are support sub dps, so she will.
Pyro Traveler might actually be good since every pyro 4 star tends to have something good about them
@@nyes4596raiden is an onfield hyper carry
@@TheRoleplayer40k but she is really good as a support as well electro app and er regen so definitely checks out
@@TheRoleplayer40k hyperbloom begs to differ
It's crazy how hydro has the best character in each category:
Best dps: Neuvillette
Best support; furina
Best sub dps: yelan/furina/xingqiu
2nd/3rd best healer: kokomi
Best Reaction driver and dps : nilou
Honorable mention to dendro and pyro for having one contender for best in each role as well:
Dps: arlecchino-alhaitam
Sub dps: xianling-nahida
Support: Bennett-nahida/baizhu
Healer: bennet(not the best by far but it's still a great addition bonus for what he does) -baizhu (the best if we are only condidering pure healing)
Reaction dps and driver: alhaitam/nahida (or anything that can run good hyperbloom)
Best dps is base on ur skill
fast hand: alhaitham and Clorinde
Skill issues: neuvillette
Intelligence player: Arlecchino
@@Lilithmorningstarq me who have all (exept clorinde):🤨
In pure team(beat possible team for each) damage to single target arlecchino has the highest damage then hu tao followed by Neuvillette and then alhaitam
In any other situation than single target Neuvillette is the strongest and then you can argue for other teams and characters for secend and below places+ Neuvillette has so much QoL that even if he wasn't as strong as he is he would still be a top choice
I've been on a grind to get everyone up to Ascension Level 6 (already have all the boss drops for my roster and shortlist), and get everyone's Talents up to Lv.6, which the simplification to the Mondstadt and Liyue domains will be a great boon for.
The lack of hydro claymore characters is actually crazy
As minimal as this may seem, I think it's thoughtful and that's cool. Thank you!
I’ve been taking a break from Genshin but since I started I have felt a yelan shaped hole in my account. Love her character, need her dps/ versatility, and want her overworld. She is coming back and I have a guaranteed and enough wishes to hop into the game and get her. Cannot wait. Those armpits will be mine
Hoping for a dendro, geo , and anemo imaginarium theater someday.
Something that has worked decently for me in IT is stacking off-field dps. You don't know what team you're going to get so you don't know if you can actually build a team around a main DPS. I've been stuck with too many on-field dps/hypercarries which has ruined my runs, but when you stack lots of off-fields you still get a lot of value from all of them even if individually they don't deal as much damage as an on-fielder. Off-fields have way higher value for me in IT than on-fielders and I think I will start pulling for more of them.
So this is what's gonna finally make me use on field dps Nilou huh
Can't wait for the devs to make one of the next ITs Anemo, Dendro and Geo
I just realized that there is no standard 5* geo character
Will be looking forward to a Ningguang video bc I'm ascending her finally but have never really used her.
I just wanna salute the Chad that helped me out with Kazuha in the Theatre. Clutched it with him
Putting Traveler as a 4 star is so based.
If not for dendro, Traveler would be a 3 star
Well they aren't a limited 5 star are they
HMC in HSR eating good tbh
@@mptyallnHMC in hsr: 😌
HMC in genshin: 😧
@@columbinadamselettefanHMC in WuWa: 😈
Capitano and Mavuika will shake this 🔥
I see it like this, at least for accounts that are barely clearing the character requirements or struggling to get max primos:
Some units are good for the abyss-style timed bossfights, which are 100% the hardest part.
Some units are good for the less demanding intermediate chambers.
You're only going to use units twice in most cases.
Think in terms of building an abyss-style "dream" team (made of any units, rental, friend, yours) that will clear the boss FIRST, and only then fill the roster with flex units and supports who can prop up your fill-in DPS / the Rental DPS or onfield themselves in the middle chambers to SAVE YOUR BEST TEAM for the hardest content.
If C6 Faru + Wanderer is your "dream" team that you have built and ready to go, don't skip Faru for Lynette just because Lynette is more flexible in other teams. So far it's pretty reasonable to expect you'll get 3/4 of your best team by the 8th chamber and can pick buffs specifically for them. The timer is unforgiving and you will need the dream team. Go ahead and use a scuffed anemo traveler DPS team or whatever you can scrape together to barely-clear in the mid-chambers to save at least one charge on the big guns.
tl;dr pick to clear boss chambers
I love how anemo is just perfect
Im surprised he didn't put furina in the thumbnail, as he always be glazing her so hard
I mean, you can't blame him for glazing her so much.
wow, talking well about one of if not the best character in the game? crazy.
Glazing? The amount of praise she gets is a perfect amount
She deserves her popularity.
She deserves to be glazed more chief.
She's at least top 3 most valuable character for meta players at the moment, all recognitions are well-deserved.
I saved about 250 ish pulls on Raiden's last banner and C6ed Chevy in the process and can confirm she is better than Bennett. She does large dam, large heal, large buff and is not bound by the stupid circle, also looks cooler.
She can also be used to shoot at minerals in the overworld
This is real actually. I tested all my Arlecchino teams and an overload team with an underbuilt Chevreuse did the most damage and comfort. Adding Bennet in a Chevy team would be like Yelan & Xingqiu or Yae & Fischl tho. It's amazing.
Is she only good at C6? I have one at C0 with Arlechinno thinking of getting cons in her rerun
I really want C6 Cheveruse nowww
@@SunnyHikikOmori To me her being able to basically rapid fire 3 aimed shots is a normal thing so when I see Jello messing around with her and only doing 1 things look weird.
Thanks for the list, I was looking for this. I'm at rank 45 and still thinking what characters is worth prioritizing.
At this point they should put albedo, shenhe, Eula and maybe klee in the standard banner if is so hard for them to ever appear in a banner, specially with the amount of characters that imaginarium theater needs, maybe in the future they will need to do this
As a fellow Raiden main, I can see the contemplation deciding who's better between clorinde and raiden lol
Notice how in every slot the best 5 star is an archon (ignore anemo). So if you ever feel like you're lacking a good character just pull for the archon because you won't regret it.
I would argue that Faruzan and all the mono-element supports are really good bc you can just use that one element (or two)
At least I have Arlecchino, Furina & Navia. All I need is an Electro 5* & that would be Raiden Shogun banner in September
All i have in the thumbnail are Nuevilette Arlecchino, and raiden. I'm going for kazuha (and maybe dehya)
How did getting Mona passively work for you Mr Jello? 😅
Thing is, the Theater is so laughably easy that i finished it with characters i forgot to put artifacts on...there’s no need to stress about it imo
I mean if someone only has like 4 characters build than yeah, that will be a problem but unless you started very recently which is not likely the case, that shouln’t be a thing
The whole mode is a bit of a dissapointment tbh, not bad but it took me like 20 minutes to clear
a revelation of mine was the gaming-lynette combo for the ley line defense. lynette taunts the enemey while my unbuilt gaming deals a decent amount of damage and self heals
they practically saved me by being both level 70, level 2 talent, no artifact levels, level 50 weapon (gaming is c4 tho, lynette c1)
how does the strategy work, act 4 leyline was so hard for me, need to try using Lynette like you did
@@HughDancy-rl5sy i mean I didn't really got the bonuses i just finished it with the necessary ley line hp
but for me i built lynette with energy recharge
have the other two character be the battery for both gaming and lynette to have their burst always ready
pick the robots enemy thingy
immediately attack the short range enemy that always jump so that their attack would be targeted towards you, the other one would attack the ley line but not that much.
put lynnete's burst in the middle and this will taunt both
then attack with gaming (his cons actually help so much because he solo carried this team with no healing but you can choose a healer like sayu dori for more heals)
don't deal too much damage! lmao it will be a 2 minute match but since you only need 2 characters you can use this battle to scrap your least built characters
From what I have seen all archons have followed a pattern of the more common use of the elements as well as a sub dps I would say the pyro archon will fallow a similar scheme which would be dps and sub dps I hope she has an off field play style but I also don’t think it will become that way
The Amount of Hydro 4 stars being that Low is Crazy : Like you can have an Off-Field Buffer , I’ll name some for ya
Off-Field Vape Buffer
Skill : Casts a Throwable Object that is a certain Radius , When In that Radius Vaporize Reactions will increase by 50% Damage and Grant 10% Hydro DMG Bonus and 40% Pyro DMG Bonus , Further Increases Vape Damage by 15% if Pyro is Inflicted on the Enemy Prior to the Hydro Infusion Created
Ultimate : Any Enemy surrounding the On-field Character will Be casted with continuous Hydro Application every 4s (enough to apply Pyro Before the Hydro) , This will further Increase Vaporizes Damage by another 25% When Pyro is applied Before Hydro
An Off-Field Freeze Buffer
Skill : Casts a Thing that follows the On-Field Character(only for the character that casts it in Co-Op) around that Enemies Nearby , This will inflict them with a status that activates when Cryo is Applied to the enemy , This status will go off After 15s.
When the Status has been activated , Cryo DMG Bonus is increased by 25%
Ultimate : Any Enemy in a 20m Radius that is inflicted with the aforementioned Status will be caused A Top Status that will cause them to Lose HP depending on EM , This is further increased by the Cryo Appliers Cryo DMG Bonus
19:35 probably just misspoke, but Yaoyao is *not* always free, unless you're talking about lantern rite rewards then yes she's technically free (you can argue this is "always" once a year 😂).
Poor Venti...
He's not getting an archon treatment
Ayato gonna be so good in imaginarium. I feel like he is more flexible than C0 neuvilette
Not sure whether this is mentioned, although, it does not really matter, alloy cannot be used in imagarium theater if i am not wrong as i remember seeing this as hoyoverse did not give alloy VA additional lines when talking to her in the theater
5:31 I've been playing this game for nearly 4 years jello, where is my mona 🥹
Putting alhaitham instead of Nahida will trigger WWIII
“Considering Mona is free if you lose the 50/50…”
👀
Just when I talked myself out of trying for Yelan you talk me right back into it... Let's see if will power or peer pressure win the day.
(I have Furina and C6 Xingqiu, I don't have Kazuha or Zhongli... it'd definitely be smarter to go for them.)
nooo def go for kazuha or zhongli whoever reruns first!!!! i have them both and they changed my life
There should be a physical support that allows you to break shields
I mean imagine Dendro, Geo and Cryo as the next Theater 😂😂
It's cryo, anemo and hydro in next theatre.
What about fun not best, like who just feels damn good to play not just meta. I just started this year so I don’t have many
Then why are you on a meta channel in the first place? If you don’t look at meta at least a tiny bit it’s going to be hard to clear the hardest content, which is the reason why so many people use Furina, Kazuha, Nahida, Yelan and so on
@@justawalter9752 You have to know what generally the idea of everything is so u can then break the rules here and there and still have fun bro. I currently rock Arle / Navia / Furina / (Anything based on a how I feel) but I just tasted Navia and hot damn shes fucking fun as fuck. Seen so many to say skip her but hot damn thats the bet 40 pulls spent right there.
I'm mostly concerned for my lack of cryo and dendro characters, I'm in the process of building some cryo characters but I don't actually have dendro options. It's my least favorite element so I've got the characters built that I have but the only really good built one is Tighnari currently.
Waiting for my short 4star hydro claymore boy, hopefully one day 🥺❤️
I like how Jello pinned that comment XD
You forgot that Xinyan is secretly the Pyro Archon
What? Isn’t Xianyun Anemo!?? 😂😂😂
😢@@manday2267
@@manday2267 No I meant Xinyan- 😭 I swear everyone forgets girlie
Only four limited Electro characters, and half of them are on my Disinterest pull plans.
The patern is clear:
Archons: off-field dps/support
Fatui: on-field dps
I just realised that there is only 1 electro 5star that i have (and wanted tbh). its crazy how few 5star electro there are. where as i have all the 5star hydros 💀 except for the bad one
yoo he said "ning guide soon" I WIN
my biggest flex is i got
all of them
for veteran players you need a main dps of your choice and the rest doesn't matter as long as they are level 70
Other than disagreeing with putting the general banner units in the 4 star tiers,
Hydro and Electro I have no issue with.
I think Venti might actually be the best 5 star Anemo for Theatre, I'm not joking. Theatre did so much for him, he's extremely potent in this mode compared to Spiral so I would have put Venti, Kazuha, and Xianyun in those top spots in that order. Xiao is fantastic, and I personally have his dream team myself and it's very effective, but Xiao and evening Wanderer relies too much on specific supports for maximal effectiveness. You ought to value a unit's splashability more within Theatre ranking. Xianyun enables tons of characters to become DPS's that might underperform if attempted otherwise (Diluc/Chongyun/Razor/Gaming for example). Your Anemo 4 stars were fine but I'd replace Jean with Faruzan - even the trial faruzan we just had in this cycle was perfectly servicable and there's lots of strong Anemo units for her to amplify.
Cryo 5 stars were fine. For 4 stars I'd probably replace Layla with Kaeya myself, but I don't fault you for your choice, it's perfectly reasonable.
For Pyro, I agree with your top 3 (and only because you made a great point that Pyro will not always be paired with Electro in the future, presumably), but I'd put Thoma above Xiangling. Xiangling really likes specific teammates (particularly Bennet), but you won't always guarantee the best comp for her. I like Thoma more for his diversity, ease of use, splashability, and defensive perks.
Haha, to your point about the Archon - every Archon with the exception of Raiden has focused on off field capabilities. Even Raiden can be built to be used off-field. I think the assumption that Mavuika will be an off-field dps is a well founded one based on that. Your actual placements for the 5 stars for Pyro were fine - to be honest it's kind of hard to mess that one up.
...I did not realize there was only 3 5star Dendro, wow. Lol. For both 4 and 5 star I have no complaints either except swapping Tighnari with Collei since I don't think he should count.
For Geo, replace Noelle with Yunjin and put her in 3rd place - Noelle relies heavily on Furina to be effective and Geo may not always run with Hydro. For 5 stars, I'd actually replace Albedo with Chiori. Chiori's maximal dps potential is unlocked only with a construct, which only 3 characters provide currently and that may not be available when you need to field her. Albedo is a great general unit to put either on his own or with others, constructs or not, and his Burst even gives an EM boost, which has some utility. Obviously normally Chiori is the better pick but I think Albedo is more flexible unless you have C1 Chiori - but to be fair, the difference in their Theatre effectiveness is not so far apart that I'm gonna roast you for picking Chiori - just sharing my two cents.
diona definetely should be higher than kaeya, in terms of her capabilities and support she is acftually a pretty good character.
She shines in optimal teams (Melt enabler, Freeze battery etc), but in Imaginarium Theater it's hard to form optimal teams, and subdps with good damage would most likely be relatively preferred. The opponents have lower damage compared to Abyss too, so besides non-optimal use of her offensive utility, her defensive utility also has less value here.
Ningguang video waiting room.
I love like there is no cryo in the thumbnail :D
OOPS LMAO
@@JelloImpact Everyone forgot cryo exists since dendro came out
Fixed~~
@@Kuddochan What is this "CRYO" thing you speak of my friend?
My experience thusfar with cryo has been Layla. That's it.
AR 55 and haven't felt the need to use any other Cryo.
Please buff hoyo, Ice is my element in fantasy...
Video idea...worst character for each element and/or weapon type
sige over nilou and childe? i swear you could get away with 1 dps and 1 healer in theater but those 2 needs their optimal team to work
Ahh... me who has all the limited dendro characters, the top five hydro, and 2/4 of the electro limited 5* (lost on Clorinde's banner and never pulled Cyno because I couldn't really play him very well in trial) clearly tells me my preferences. LOL But also why I've been using the hyperbloom crutch (with ZL's shield and Koko's heals) throughout this first year of playing.
Ayato above Childe and Nilou is an interesting take
Yeah it's such an L take. Bro is acting like Imaginarium Theatre is as hard as HSR or WuWa endgame when it's literally not even as hard as Abyss lmao.
I wished right now for Navia (I had 114 wishes and said let’s wish 14 of them) and at my 11th wish I skip the animation not thinking of much AND THERE SHE IS!?
I wanna say, ganyu is NOT great in theatre- well unless you’re doing off field. then yeah she’s good
but if you’re trying to use dps ganyu it is VERY hard to guarantee a shield and fuck is she hard to play without one.
not only can you not guarantee the element of your shielder (say you only have zhongli and/or kirara built, but there’s no geo/dendro)
and even if you have layla or diona built, or any other shielder who can enter, you once again can’t guarantee getting that shielder when you get ganyu
Electro traveler is best traveler there is. She gives periodic electro application even during heavy attacks. like neuvilette
I actually think Wanderer is better than Xiao cause I find him a bit more flexible. Sure, they're both hypercarries that suffer damage loss when they're not in their optimal teams, but Wanderer can also be a driver for off field DPS such as Yelan or Raiden, and if you have pyro or cryo he's bound to have some decent buffs. And since he's not burst reliant, I think he's a bit easier to build and pair up with different characters cause he doesn't require that much energy. Sure, he's a bit wonky to play without a shield and in Imaginarium theater a shield is not a guarantee but personally I think his flexibility makes up for that.
I have a pretty good spread across my roster of 76 but some are in the prison of the first ascension, including C1 Nari & Kaveh. My Dori & Sara will get attention at some point as both are C6. As for Geo, all my 4* are C6 & built as are my 5* (built not C6) & I'm only missing Chiori which is no loss in my book.
Thought this was a in general ranking video
Siggy is not bad for theater, if you meet her energy needs. Wide area cone, low hp mobs, reactions screwed over due to mode limitations. And if you have a Yae or Fischl, and no Kuki equiv, can benefit from her passive.
Yae is better than Clor due to off field factor. With Kuki, dendro is not the key factor. Hydro or pyro access is. With either, she is great. Without, not so much.
Dehya should be in 3rd spot, bumping Thoma. A well built one easily trashes theater, plus can fill support roles.
Geo in theater is cake. 1 5 star trial, 1 4 star trial. Add a geo friend character and GMC... pretty much set.
I think Ganyu plus Emelia alone, but even more so Ganyu with Emelia and then Pyro Archon could receive a rather large bump.
Who's Emelia?
@@scaler7812 4.8 phase two banner character.
@@scaler7812 he means Emilie, the new Dendro character coming in the second phase of 4.8 (In 15 days)
Jokes on you. As a dedicated Navia main, I CAN'T WAIT for Geo IT. Ideally, Geo-Anemo-Hydro, so I can use my main team xD
I’m so glad I’m naturally attracted to pulling for hydro 5*. I have them all except childe kokofish and sigewinne. I’m all good in that department 😂
As a returning player I find the fact that you HAVE to use a full team for each act to be a bit disappointing