I will just add one thing that Al Haitham is great at is AOE and single target. Obviously doesn’t work with grouper like kazuha very well but has good innate AOE but being able to do both definitely separates him from other DPS and increases his value over regular hyperbloom noticably
Next time put it in the video because it is a significant part of a character's power level and regular hyperbloom is significantly worse in aoe content and also alhaitham is very flexible in rotation which is great for multi wave of enemies like we are getting in recent spiral abyss
Thanks for the video! You didn't mention my favorite Alhaitham team: Alhaitham, Kuki, Yelan, Xingqiu! I know that a second dendro character can be better for the 4th slot instead of one of the hydros, but I just love the double hydro core and the ton of energy it generates. I was able to use Alhaitham's burst almost every rotation with about 140 ER. I prefer this team not just because it lets me utilize my ER rolls in Alhaitham's artifacts and lets both hydro units get enough ER to comfortably burst every rotation, but also because I don't have to reapply Nahida's E to each enemy wave. And the resistance to interruption is nice. And the hydro resonance (Yelan deals more damage, Kuki heals more, everyone is more tanky) is nice. And I also feel like (it's probably not true) that if I'm using Xingqiu instead of Nahida, I deal more single target damage, and the teams damage is primarily single target anyway, so in multitarget content it may be better to kill one enemy faster than split the damage between the two/three because then you increase the speed of killing the enemy and get to switch to the next enemy faster.
IMO another benefit of Alhaitham is his teambuilding, which is very orthogonal currently to a lot of other meta characters' best teams thanks to Furina. He doesn't want Bennett or Kazuha, and not having Furina over XQ/Yelan is a much smaller DPS difference compared to other teams like Neuvillette or Xiao. Basically you can run Alhaitham/Nahida/XQ/Kuki with very strong results and then you are free to use Furina, Bennett, Kazuha, etc., on your other teams like Neuv, Arle, Hu Tao, Xiao, etc.,
@@aerohydra3849 Yeah! That's especially nice considering the squishiness Furina brings to the team, so being able to use a strong defensive utility option (Xingqiu) instead without losing too much damage is great!
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons: 1. Graphics - WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself. 2. Combat System - WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus. 3. Artifacts - WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo. - On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW. - So its day and night compared to game like Genshin.. 4. Wishes - WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes. - WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough - WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker). - Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first) Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
Yea, as much as I see the problem, I don't know why it's always dendro related teams or characters like Nilou,Nahida etc that get the sticker for constricted team building. The same people would be running the same XQ/Bennett/Hutao/XL/Yelan/Childe vape archetype for years but if another team even has 2 staple units, people complain like it's a new unique issue.
@@AaronZhang1202 😂 makes sense! I’m a sometimes Bennett user. He took too long to come to my account and being an anxious dumdum I didn’t like having him as a healer bc he doesn’t full heal.
@TheGwilwileth Thanks so much! I actually do have nahida and kuki c2 which makes my life a lot easier. I just need Furina, which will be tough right after Haitham’s banner, but we’ll see!
Tighnari usually prefers Yae Miko instead of Kuki, because he's not that close to the enemies as Alhaitham. Additionally, Tighnari's charged shots don't trigger Xingqiu's rain swords or Yelan's burst. So Tighnari and Alhaitham aren't exchangeable within the same team.
It's this precise reason that I switched out my Thoma for Dehya on my Tighnari/Yae hyperburgeon team. She's more quick swappy and doesn't need the normal attack to trigger her effects.
us southern hemisphere gamers have it rough 🙃 if hoyo made swapping characters client-side and not server-side this game would play so much smoother to play
@@ChunderThunder1 Big L for Mihoyo on that. Me with 160ms ping can only occasionally perform this Kuki-Alhaitham swap. Also dodges were always clunky with such ping. And don't forget one particular artifact set being useless on >100ms ping.
whaled hard on his first banner and went for c6 r5 with zero regrets. definitely one of my favourite playstyles too he feels so clean to play even on 300 ping
0_0 Bro i "whaled" for c2 r1 wanderer (alrdy had c0) this patch and lost the weapon banner but got a win and an early for c1-2 so i lucked out. Idk how you c6 r5 people do it. My wallet cries.
@@flippinnngiraffe808Nothings wrong with that in a game that doesnt need meta characters to beat. I for some reason tho always lean to meta characters no matter the game
Alhaitham/furina/baizhu/kuki is peak comfort team and the extra fan fare and small spread damage increase make up a fair bit for the loss of nahida and you have so much healing and baizhu resistance to interruption (in the form of his paper thin shields) that you never really feel threatened unless you’re face tanking some really nasty enemies, imo alhaitham feels a lot better with interruption resistance so any team where you can run beidou xingu or baizhu can make things a lot more comfortable
@@ionized_salmon6417 Yeah I would rather swap kuki for raiden for the longer rotations if using baizhu/furina, but honestly I have mostly found nahida/xq/al/kuki the comfiest al team since he can facetank almost everything in this setup and xq's swords can keep kuki/nahida alive if they get hit when swapping. For this current boss event I have been running this team since most other teams without xq are getting oneshot if I miss a dodge.
@@ionized_salmon6417baizhu gives interrupt resist and healing (fanfare). If anything, kuki is a bit redundant and fischl would be better if available.
Baizhu interrupt resist shield is actually quite good to prevent you from getting knocked around, the heal is also very high, can replace kuki with raiden or fischl for battery
People have to consider that if Lvl.100 is a reality, Dendro would benefit a lot. So just take that in mind. And in the Theatre you can use multiple DPS of the same element in other rotations.
I'm more curious abt the 5.0 leak i saw being correct or not. Lets just say if its true dendro is getting an indirect buff. Though it's mainly focused on pyro and geo
Alhaitham was my first ever 5* DPS back when I first started the game late 3.6 (lucked out and pulled him early during 3.7), and he's saved my but in story progression by far, and as someone who really loves the Dendro element, it has been great with no regrets at all. (Yes, Nahida is great and one of my favorite characters - along with Neuvillette, but I pulled Nahida MUCH later since I missed her last rerun and couldn't get her until Fontaine, so he was perfectly fine even before Nahida.)
it’s not the same because Nahida does TOO much for dendro compared to Bennet for attack scalers Nahida does literally everything that a dendro unit can do except for healing, therefore she can replace any dendro character except for healers
Dont let his lies fool you. If you're gonna use a dendro spread alhaitham dps team with only one electro character, you need baizhu in there. With that, you can use any electro offield dps. So raiden, fishcl, or yae miko will be the best options
@@magiclover9346 i wonder if it's due to the ER for Baizhu or his low dendro app. cause usually i put kuki on a full stacked em deepwood set for this issue and Baizhu sticks to instructors or 2pc EoSF+2pc HP or double HP sets(if they have enough er.). I don't think it's a big deal since the transformative reaction damage change is minimal and there's instructors and dendro res to help her reach 1000 em.
Same I honestly hate using nahida with Alhaitham cause honestly the rotation feels very annoying with always reapplying her skill.. ANDi don't like kuki as well sooo my team is a baizhu furina raiden team and it's still veeeeeeerry strong and it feels sososo comfortable
Alhaitham is a strong dps with or without Nahida. He is fun and pretty easy to build. His design is also great. He has a ton of value and has proven his worth over time. Still the 3rd best dps in the game…
like if anything i think Al is more tied to shinobu than Nahida. Nahida is good though if you wanna see those green numbers pop off, one of my favorite teams for Al is Al/Shinobu/Baizhu or Yaoyao/Any Hydro can work XQ is the best 4 star option but like even frickin Barbara can work well. for this team I usually ran a full EM Deepwood Kuki since i find Baizhu(C0) and Yaoyao to be unreliable deepwood holders at times due to RNG or Low dendro application and i don't mind it since Transformative reaction damage between sets are pretty minimal. Sometimes i still run it even with Nahida(holding GD or GT) since in some cases she causes occasional spreads and those spreads also pop off hard.
@@usmanya5110 I used to run kuki on deepwood too! I pulled Al early game for me and got kuki on standard, and suddenly overworld became easy. Until I got nahida I couldn't find a better deepwood holder than kuki either - kirara had to be c4. Now I have Nahida/Baizhu kuki is Gilded, but good to know I wasn't the only one. I think al can work without kuki (either raiden, or in aggr Yae/fischl) but he becomes much less of a tanky support without kuki. In baiz/furina/al/raiden team I will die more often with more aggressive enemies since I'm so used to facetanking hits with kuki's healing.
Without Nahida Alhaitham is not a DPS but a semi dps semi driver because you NEED that high dendro to maintain quicken with an hydro unit on the team or else, you won't have any spread and mostly deal raw damages and hyperbloom damages
@@stylerxo3654 but its very front loaded heals rather than consistent over time, its just skill issue/habit I have formed with Alhaitham since I played him with kuki for so much longer
I think the problem with dendro isn't necessary caused by nahida, but with archons in general. It seems like hoyo want to make archons the strongest on what they do and very hesitant to powercreep them. This is impacted differently on every element. Anemo : the only element that the archon is powercreep by other. Most likely we will never get a better grouper than kazuha because it will powercreep venti again. Geo : to this day there's no better shielder than zhongli. This is one of the reason why shielder is generally weaker than healer, they don't want to powerceeep zhongli. Electro : it's very clear that hoyo is very cautious to make a better electro DPS than Raiden. Clorinde is toned down to aggravate DPS which raiden isn't to begin with. And most likely that they will never make a dedicated hyperbloom trigger because it will powercreep her and kuki. Dendro : Nahida is the first limited 5* dendro, but they don't want future unit to powercreep her. So they raised the bar so high so that they can fill the gap with future unit. This is why other dendro feels worthless now. Hydro : this is the perfect scenario. Furina is so strong but genshin is full of strong hydro unit within 3 years so she isn't as mandatory. I believe the future archons shouldn't have this problem too. Sorry for the rant. I wonder what's your thoughts about how archons affected the game (positive and negative). Thanks for the great content!!!
I love your rundown! Don’t apologize! You’re spot-on and I get that they don’t want to power creep the archons for lore reasons as well as making sure their value remains relevant. I wish they hadn’t locked themselves in for this bc it really limits the value of newer units in the game. I think they had learned their lessons and applied it to Fontaine/Furina. However, I’m disappointed that they don’t push the envelope more. One idea that I do love was from Jello and speculation of what’s to come. If they added a level 100 ascension and that ascension allowed a brand new passive for each character, it could give Hoyo a chance to correct some of these things. A way for them to allow some power creep to the archons but then give the archons something fresh that allows them to maintain value. Idk. I just really love that idea too bc we could fix older units like Yoimiya and others. Sigh… likely won’t happen but I can dream
I have to disagree with you re Venti. Up till now, he is still the best grouper. What his kit lacks is other buffs. But if we look at grouping ability, Venti is still the best. If we require more utility other than grouping, then Kazuha is the one. C0 Raiden is more of an universal battery than a dps and no one does a better job than she. If you want dps Raiden, go for C2. C0 Furina at most is a sub-dps with her seafood. She is currently the best buffer.
Per some other comments, I think we've reached a point where the Archons are still good but they're starting to get pigeon-holed into hyper-specific "best of" roles and even then have other pros and cons that need to be considered (e.g. Furina's HP drain). With that in mind, I don't see why they can't introduce another good Dendro applicator. Nahida is great because she's application + AoE damage + buffing, so there shouldn't be an issue with divvying those roles up while leaving Nahida to be the great all-round package. For instance, they could easily introduce a 5-star that applies Dendro consistently from a close-range aura. This would offer amazing synergy with Alhaitham since he's melee, or even Hyperbloom using Kuki. They could offload the Dendro application to a "pet" like Furina's or a better construct similar than Traveler's burst or even an "on-hit" mechanic like Yelan/XQ. Regardless of what form it takes, my point is simply that Nahida is such a great all-round package that it would be really difficult for them to fully powercreep her.
It makes me sad that Nahida carries all Dendro reaction teams on her back, because there are so many Dendro and Electro characters I would love to have and build but I only have one Nahida.
For sure. You either have Nahida or Baizhu, but c2 Nahida is just a million times better than Baizhu. Edit: I blame Mihoyo for giving Collei/Yaoyao that weird ICD.
Heyyooo super early Dendro definitely needs a boost. Going for C2 Nahida on a rerun because dendro will always be relevant and she's the glue that holds all the teams together
Nahida is not necessary. Also, jello seems like a waifu simp. The amount of "don't pull from Alhaitham" I heard in his video. He's definitely trying to discourage you. That's how waifu simps have always been all the way back to Albedos debut banner. I remember how Ganyu simps were literally telling me not to pull for Albedo. I pulled for Albedo though and skipped Ganyu.
@@woodykusaki9970 OR he knows thet a dedicated on-fielder have low pull value, when you can do every team architype with an off-fielder as well (in this case with Nahida). He always discourage pulling on dedicated on-fielders, not just male ones.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391you dont need a DPS to clear content in this game. But saying dont pull for alhaitham who is literally the 2nd best dps in the game?
I don't have him, nor do I plan on going for him, but updated guides are always great! I love when we get to reflect a bit on how the characters have changed with the ever expanding roster ad developing meta
He is the reason why I can get all platinum plats in the Specially-shaped Saurian Search event, Without him, I don't think I can do it without him eventhough i have the others invested "top dps"
Alhaitham was the first limited 5 star I ever pulled and he has carried me through most of the game. I'm f2p, I have him on R4 Iron Sting, full Gilded, triple crowned, and I play him with Xingqiu, Kuki, and Nahida. They're my best team by far. (STILL CAN'T FKIN 36* ABYSS THOUGH)
With the new endgame incentifies you to have boarder roster in your account, I think it make his pull value go up a bit. Still, if I would recommend newer player to go for 5* Dendro characters, he would be in the 3rd after Nahida and Baizhu bc - Nahida literally carries the whole element. - Baizhu offers 2 types of defensive utilities and can synergize very well with Furina that I think he has more pull value than Nahida is some situations.
Bro, my alhaitham only has like 140 CD , and he is doing way more damage in the same setup as you played. Now, I truly think an hybrid build is better . A mix of everything ✨️
My favorite Alhaitham team is Alhaitham, Baizhu, Xinqui and Kuki. I've got a lot of skill issue and this team is essentially immortal, and Alhaitham + a well build Xinqiu with the hyperblooms from Kuki does more than enough damage.
@@richardm8155 You could, and it'll probably do the same amount of damage, but it won't be as comfy. Kuki heals, and Baizhu provides shields for interruption resistance. Damage wise though it's probably the same.
Jello impact: genshin is really good at balancing their game Also jello impact: Nahida is so good she makes all other dendro characters irrelevant/skippable
I agree with Jello's advice at the end: Don't just get a character because they're good. Because Ganyu and Tighnari taught me I don't like charged bow shot characters, I skipped Lyney - who is great for damage, but whose playstyle I don't enjoy (so I skip). Similarly, Hu Tao is one of the top pyro DPSs in the game and I got her because she was great... but I never got used to her style. Arlecchino plays the way I wish Hu Tao played, and I regret Hu Tao not because she's bad, but because I don't like her and I will always choose Arlecchino for a situation where I would have considered Hu Tao. I have other examples, but I wanted to highlight two META characters that I either skipped or regretted. Don't go making my mistakes. :P
14:00 sharing my experience: ayato was my first 5 star pull and as such i did build him to my best effort (lvl 90, skill crowned, all lvl 20 artifact set) i picked hyperbloom as his main team with nahida, xingqiu, kuki as the support (also built them well) then after playing the game i liked alhaitham himself (from the story and from the fandom) so now that i got him, my dismay after knowing that ill just basically gonna replace ayato with alhaitham in a team is kinda icky. my other characters are not that built yet (only playing for less than a year) so im just stuck here not knowing what team i should put either one of the two
my option are vaporize for ayato or spread for alhaitham my second team is overload yae, xiangling, bennet, chev but if I pick spread i have to get yae a new artifact set, the guilded dreams, same as alhaitham so that's not fun and i tested vaporize ayato w bennet xiangling and it's not that good lmaoooo
Before getting Nahida, I was running dendro MC in her position with Alhaitham and Kuki, and it felt really strong. Also for 4 star (+ MC) challenges I run Kuki, Xingqui and dendro MC + a flex slot, and again this feels really strong. So Nahida may be the damage ceiling but hyperbloom rules even without her...
I will say that I agree with most of Jello’s eval but for me Alhaitham is also one of the more fun characters to play and that pushes him up a tier for me.
Jello: You can use this You can use that You can use the other thing You can use the broomstick You can use mop You can use your shoe on al haitham and he’ll asian slap the abyss WE GEDDIT.
I love alhaitham! Hes great at c0 and has a f2p weapon option which makes me always recommend him to people looking for a low investment option! I run him with xq (c6), kuki (c6) and yaoyao (c2) on 4pc guilded set and enemies already melt like butter, slotting in nahida must be a ton of fun! I really love what dendro did for elemental reactions and hope genshin keeps up with other elemental reactions for the future 👍
As someone who doesn't like Nahida's design at all it really feels like it locks off a whole element. Like I'd just rather play characters that I like than power teams, but Dendro (and most Electro) just feels sad without her.
my hyperbloom teams still can't clear their half in 1 min 30s so it is kinda hard to believe that hyperbloom is really that wow insane op how important is the damage from non-hb sources within that team? (ie xingiu's rain swords from burst) for context i run nahida ei xingqiu barbara and ei gets around 1k em w nahida ult is it an artifact gap at this point?
by running barbara + raiden you're essentially losing a team slot here, which is VERY impactful on your damage. That's why kuki is so powerful for hyperbloom, she allows you to run nahida + two offensive characters. So you either have to switch to kuki from raiden, or go try hard and do xingqiu as your only defensive option. And definitely xingqiu + (yelan, fischl, furina, etc) are impactful to your overall DPS.
@@JelloImpact This! I use Raiden as trigger fairly often but she only feels good with on field kokomi's good damage + healing. You really want 3 characters that bring at least some decent damage + the trigger.
Do note that Nahida's burst doesn't work for off field characters so most of the time if you are bursting with her on the standard hyperbloom teams it's only for her on field duties while the other characters do their stuff off field, so Raiden doesn't get buffed by her burst, everything that jello said above is correct but also note that in pure hyperbloom triggering capabilities Raiden is better by a small margin but she doesn't provide healing and is useless against shields (I run nahida XQ kuki fischl and it works great for me but my fischl and xq builds are definitely lacking)
That’s the problem with hyperbloom it’s consistent but it’s not an always go to options in abyss. People cope by saying just use hyperbloom and you be fine but there’s so much more than that goes into it. I’ll give you my teams example I can clear the current abyss with Team navia, xiangling, Bennett, zhongli. Team xiao, faruzan, xianyun, zhongli or furina. Team knave, mono pyro with zhongli or kazuha and yelan zhongli. Team wanderer, faruzan, Bennett,zhongli. Team hu tao basic comp. Then team nevi with a pyro with like xiangling. Team raiden national or hyper. See how just hyperbloom fall off here with these example. Not including team rotation and positioning of the mobs. Having a team wide of variation equal more clears and comfort instead of the just one comp that people hype it to be broken that u need nothing else when it’s not true. But what am I to say I guess -_-.
I don’t thinks it’s an artifact gap more like a team choices but as the saying goes for a lot of the causal player play what you like if you can clear good. If not probably rethink what went wrong and how can you do better. If it’s artifacts then refarm again. If that’s not it pick characters that you will benefit more off of.
Got him a while back and didn’t regret it. That’s despite me having c2 Nahida and c3 Tighnari. He still holds his own in many teams even at c0r0 (mine uses Xiphos’ which is almost as drippy as PJC). But power wise, pulling two extra Nahida’s was definitely more than twice the value. Thankfully he’s relatively cheap in the sense you just need him, once, and you’re set. I mean you don’t *need* Nahida cons but c2 is hella tempting. I’ve decided the only characters I’m actively going to hunt cons for are archon level supports/hybrids with the massive flexibility they have. Next target is C2R1 Furina (C1R0 atm).
@@studiesinflux1304 relatable especially when u switch up to her and she’s low hp. Good thing i have her c6 and i get a second chance at life with her 😭😂
I pulled alhaitham on his last rerun and still enjoy playing him and probably never stop enjoying his playstyle I got lucky when I pulled his weapon, I've gotten 3 40CV dendro goblets since I've pulled him with one of them being perfect substats Double Crit ER, EM I got just the other day My alhaitham build has 250 CV which is a lot granted the build I got on Is a 2pc/2pc combo with one of them being leftover wanderer's troupe pieces I don't use on anyone else atm I just want to mention if you don't have nahida its ok if you still want alhaitham I own nahida and I choose to not play her with alhaitham and I still get good clears I play *Alhaitham, Furina, Kuki, Baizhu they are all C0* Funnily enough I've played this team replacing baizhu with Proto Amber nahida and even tho it was good but for my alhaitham team I didn't see that much improvement except in certain scenarios because outside of nahida's DMG her buff to my alhaitham felt less impactful due to how good my alhaitham build is to a point that I would have to put more DMG artifacts on nahida to see a bigger difference
i have both him and nahida but personally i play alhaitham without her but rather with baizhu for shields and better sustain. but even as solo dendro he's totally fine. pretty strong dps overall, fun gameplay, good for hyperbloom, aggravate, nilou blooms
Please help me decide if switching from nahida c6, top 100 xinqiu, yelan c2 and kuki, to alhaitam in xinqiu’s stead is worth it. Mentioning for damage gauging purposes that xingqiu rocks an r5 jade ~
I use Baizhu instead of Nahida and though He does not buff as much as her, Haitham deals a lot of damage on his own honestly and the decrease in dendro res just helps him even more
I feel like to make Dendro more versatile outside of bloom variants they need a "Cheveruse" for quicken IE Somone who could buff Tignhari or Al Hathim teams built around straight up attacking. (Even more specifically, a dendro off field one so they can use deepwood to replace Nahida's slot)
Good vid overall. The only thing i would disagree with is that saying units like hutao and especially raiden is close to his performance. Hutao is only comparable to him in ST and Raiden is honestly very mediocre by current dps standards.
Raiden is only a burst DPS and battery she's not an on field DPS so you are wrong, give her the signature weapon and her C2 and she obliterates everything she clean up the screen and leaves the field while recharging everyone abilities in the process
@@KamiKaXi But then you are comparing unequal investment. Raiden at C2 R1 is 3 5 star pulls, and currently there are many characters like Neuv, Arlecchino, even Lyney who can achieve better results at the same investment level, or similar results with less pulls.
@@KamiKaXi yeah, she becomes barely competitive with her signature AND her c2 😱 Raiden is shines because of her flexibility not her raw unga Bunga strength.
Alha is a beast at c0r1. I'd rather get him than go hyperbloom with nahida onfield and double hydro. Also for pure agg/spread w/kuki nahi baizou; in close combat it's bonkers. Alha clears abyss rooms in 3 seconds ^^ It's not an easy skip tbh
I tend to play Alhaitham/Yae/Nahida/Baizhu. Baizhu just gives so much sustain and buffs alhaithams damage up incredibly well. But yeah, I forgot he might have more value in proccing more aggrevates damage wise. Not having that 2nd electro hurts his damage. But damn so squishy then.
Uhm no the team is fine. You don’t need "more" electro to trigger more reactions. For spread you only need quicken aura which lasts quite a long time. Yae as an electro is more than enough here
he came at such a bad time. alhaitham furina and childe were the 3 characters I was planing on saving for. but with furina coming right after him I'm probably gonna have to wait another year to bring him home 😭
I think it's going to be close to impossible to make a dendro team that functions better without Nahida or have a dendro character that's a VERY close alternative. It may be possible with c0 nahida for the f2p though
Question: Can Dendro get any better than it already is? Without massive power creep that is? Only improvement I can see is a 5* Kuki and that's about it?
Remember Neuvillete and Hydro traveler got the same Kit Dendro can improve in 1 way: a New DPS stronger than Alhaitham lol Or else Raiden shogun is 30% better than Kuki in hyperbloom
dendro has already shown sign of falling off, electro dps(s) tend to have lower numbers and alhaitham being the only dendro dps not having any cons has really hurt dendro teams' dps. you can maybe get a new kuki that heals more but the realistic option is alhaitham 2.0 with good cons
I wouldnt say Alhaitham Kuki Xingqiu Nahida is a "premium" team. Two 4 stars that dont need constellations (okay maybe kuki needs c2), the 5 star dps, and a universally good buffer is rather budget for a team.
if Alhaitham banner also features Kuki or chevreuse , then you'd have no choice but to pull on his banner, even if u want Furina more... also its not 80 pulls rather 180 pulls for a guarantee
my thoughts on Al -as a 1st Dendro pull he's pretty banger and that's what i'm planning to do on my 2nd account. obviously Nahida is better and higher value but Alhaitham is still very strong unit even without her. though if you have nahida his value can somewhat drop or increase depending on your situation since she herself is stupidly busted, she's nuts. before i barely used them together because nahida is so busted that i think it would feel too much if i use both on one side, and that my international team wasn't built yet. i started using them both together now after i finished building it. -i wouldn't pull him if i didn't have Shinobu any off field electro can work but to me she feels like Alhaitham's tool to function really well. ngl one of the funniest teams i played is running Al with three healers and for some reason it slaps. Barbara in instructors, Yaoyao/Baizhu on SoDP and Kuki on Deepwood. i run Kuki on deepwood nearly everytime with Al usually even with or without nahida. so i don't have worry about Baizhu's low off field application and Yaoyao's RNG and Short range, and the damage between transformative reactions isn't really that big, when i'm with nahida it makes run an offensive set and sometimes she does occasionally cause some spreads. for Deepwood Shinobu the way to build her would be full em and stack her with as much EM and hp substats as much as possible and dendro res and i'm able to reach 1k em. edit:i forgot about how he is good in ST and while also doing good in AoE. and how his rotations are pretty flexible, like you can do Q first and save the E or vice versa. or the Q,E plunge combo for bosses.
I was confused around 1:00 on signature weapon but showing Jade Cutter. I assume Light of Foliar Incision was meant to be said/shown. Great video overall.
I almost had this Dendro problem with Cyno, but Baizhu deals with it. In a team with Furina, Baizhu, Nahida and Cyno, if I need to change a unit for another Electro, I switch it in Nahida's place, 'cause Baizhu aplication is more relevant for Cyno.
I really want a pretty tall female model dendro sub-dps. Right now I feel like Nahida just does it all, I would love to see a Dendro off-fielder that specializes in burn or quicken so that Nahida specializes in bloom instead of specializing in everything. I used to think that at least Aggravate didn’t want her, but now with Clorinde not even Aggravate is safe from the cabbage child.
I'm thinking on pulling for Sethos, and I don't want Clorinde (I already use Keqing and I don't see many reason to pull for Clorinde, they seem very similar). So I'm just watching this just to see if I could see myself having Alhaitham on my account or not, in case I get him early. His other banners I simply didn't like his playstyle (it seemed too focused on fixed combos to extend more the mirror durations), but maybe I could give him a shot if I get him, I already have a leveled up Harbinger hanging around, and I have dendro DPS artifacts as well that he could use. It would be great if Sethos comes in only 10 pulls, though, then I'd just keep my gems to the rumoured Burning subdps.
imma be honest, my first limited 5 star was nahida and i am never going back. she just makes everything so much better, from abyss clears to collecting reasorces, especially for newer players shes super op. i will always think hyperbloom is the best rection in the game judt because of hiw flexible it is. never going back
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Is there a table of characters that benefit the most from leveling them up to 90, and for which 80 + ascension is sufficient?
Usually just hp scaling characters (furina,yelan and so forth) and people that's better off with em like anemo characters like venti and kazuha, and of course characters that's pops dendro reactions mostly just Raiden and kuki
Was patiently waiting for alhaithem until tighnari showed up on a 50/50 loss, and he’s been filling the dendro dps role so well I’m now debating on if alhaithem is even worth it
Soo...I did all I could but couldn't get Arlecchino. Now I'm 5-10 wishes away from a guaranteed 5* and wondering...should I get Nilou? Or Dendro Keqing? I want more Sumeru characters, but they all look either niche (Nilou) or not sumerian (Wanderer). I already Have C2 Raiden and C3 Keqing, plus maybe want Clorinde, so Cyno as another electro DPS is definitely not tempting, as cool as he is. Any opinions appreciated, thanks. (Yes, I have Nahida).
the value of alhaitham is that he can make a viable dendro team without nahida, no other dendro user can do that, it´s either with nahida or you don´t use them at all
I will just add one thing that Al Haitham is great at is AOE and single target. Obviously doesn’t work with grouper like kazuha very well but has good innate AOE but being able to do both definitely separates him from other DPS and increases his value over regular hyperbloom noticably
Next time put it in the video because it is a significant part of a character's power level and regular hyperbloom is significantly worse in aoe content and also alhaitham is very flexible in rotation which is great for multi wave of enemies like we are getting in recent spiral abyss
Thanks for the video! You didn't mention my favorite Alhaitham team: Alhaitham, Kuki, Yelan, Xingqiu! I know that a second dendro character can be better for the 4th slot instead of one of the hydros, but I just love the double hydro core and the ton of energy it generates. I was able to use Alhaitham's burst almost every rotation with about 140 ER. I prefer this team not just because it lets me utilize my ER rolls in Alhaitham's artifacts and lets both hydro units get enough ER to comfortably burst every rotation, but also because I don't have to reapply Nahida's E to each enemy wave. And the resistance to interruption is nice. And the hydro resonance (Yelan deals more damage, Kuki heals more, everyone is more tanky) is nice. And I also feel like (it's probably not true) that if I'm using Xingqiu instead of Nahida, I deal more single target damage, and the teams damage is primarily single target anyway, so in multitarget content it may be better to kill one enemy faster than split the damage between the two/three because then you increase the speed of killing the enemy and get to switch to the next enemy faster.
IMO another benefit of Alhaitham is his teambuilding, which is very orthogonal currently to a lot of other meta characters' best teams thanks to Furina. He doesn't want Bennett or Kazuha, and not having Furina over XQ/Yelan is a much smaller DPS difference compared to other teams like Neuvillette or Xiao.
Basically you can run Alhaitham/Nahida/XQ/Kuki with very strong results and then you are free to use Furina, Bennett, Kazuha, etc., on your other teams like Neuv, Arle, Hu Tao, Xiao, etc.,
@@aerohydra3849 Yeah! That's especially nice considering the squishiness Furina brings to the team, so being able to use a strong defensive utility option (Xingqiu) instead without losing too much damage is great!
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons:
1. Graphics
- WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself.
2. Combat System
- WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus.
3. Artifacts
- WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo.
- On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW.
- So its day and night compared to game like Genshin..
4. Wishes
- WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes.
- WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough
- WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker).
- Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first)
Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
Every dendro team be like “your character best constellation investment is Nahida’s C2”
*C2 Furina. TGS said that. 👍
@@manday2267 how tf will u run furina in spread teams or agg teams
@@manday2267 Nahida can make Hyperbloom and Burgeon crits and shred enemies def
@@kap1l968 Quickbloom
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Considering how almost every pyro character is linked to bennett. I doubt dendro characters are getting away from nahida either.
nah I clear everything and never touch bennet
Yea, as much as I see the problem, I don't know why it's always dendro related teams or characters like Nilou,Nahida etc that get the sticker for constricted team building. The same people would be running the same XQ/Bennett/Hutao/XL/Yelan/Childe vape archetype for years but if another team even has 2 staple units, people complain like it's a new unique issue.
@@TheRoleplayer40kI used to be like that but after I got arle I’m now a Bennett main 😂
Rather than pyro, it's more like most of pure %atk scalers want Bennett
@@AaronZhang1202 😂 makes sense! I’m a sometimes Bennett user. He took too long to come to my account and being an anxious dumdum I didn’t like having him as a healer bc he doesn’t full heal.
This video really impacts my Jello
Daddy Jello always brings the impact 😫
What Impact?
Genshin impact @@masgojou756
Genshin impact
Truly a Jello Impact
Me who was already set on getting Alhaitham and already did all my research: INTERESTING
Alhaitham is great and he does not need Nahida… Wish you best on your pulls.
@@TheGwilwilethhis best team doesn't even include nahida, its baizhu and furina with raiden/kuki/yae
@TheGwilwileth
Thanks so much! I actually do have nahida and kuki c2 which makes my life a lot easier. I just need Furina, which will be tough right after Haitham’s banner, but we’ll see!
@@greenvegain single target he do need nahida, but baizhu is better in multiwaves
dude has so much dendro application so he o=doesnt need nahida
Tighnari usually prefers Yae Miko instead of Kuki, because he's not that close to the enemies as Alhaitham. Additionally, Tighnari's charged shots don't trigger Xingqiu's rain swords or Yelan's burst. So Tighnari and Alhaitham aren't exchangeable within the same team.
It's this precise reason that I switched out my Thoma for Dehya on my Tighnari/Yae hyperburgeon team. She's more quick swappy and doesn't need the normal attack to trigger her effects.
"i have a small window to do this, if you have less than a hundred ping this should be easier"
*cries in 240 ping*
us southern hemisphere gamers have it rough 🙃
if hoyo made swapping characters client-side and not server-side this game would play so much smoother to play
@@ChunderThunder1 Big L for Mihoyo on that. Me with 160ms ping can only occasionally perform this Kuki-Alhaitham swap. Also dodges were always clunky with such ping.
And don't forget one particular artifact set being useless on >100ms ping.
whaled hard on his first banner and went for c6 r5 with zero regrets. definitely one of my favourite playstyles too he feels so clean to play even on 300 ping
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Bro i "whaled" for c2 r1 wanderer (alrdy had c0) this patch and lost the weapon banner but got a win and an early for c1-2 so i lucked out.
Idk how you c6 r5 people do it. My wallet cries.
@@peytonsharp6159 idk the exact amount but ik it is really really big
Love how consistent and reliable the content is!! This patch definitely has contentious banners!
I skipped him back 3.7 and regretted a lot. There were a lot of times where I needed a Dendro DPS.
I love dendro, but my mind is in a constant state of Waifu > Meta 😅
@@flippinnngiraffe808 well, you might wanna keep an eye on Emilie
@@flippinnngiraffe808get a job
@@flippinnngiraffe808Nothings wrong with that in a game that doesnt need meta characters to beat. I for some reason tho always lean to meta characters no matter the game
@@isaiah5519Me too. I tend towards meta, but for this patch, my mind is conflicted 😐
thank you for making a section for rotations it makes it way easier to visually see what the optimal set up is
Alhaitham/furina/baizhu/kuki is peak comfort team and the extra fan fare and small spread damage increase make up a fair bit for the loss of nahida and you have so much healing and baizhu resistance to interruption (in the form of his paper thin shields) that you never really feel threatened unless you’re face tanking some really nasty enemies, imo alhaitham feels a lot better with interruption resistance so any team where you can run beidou xingu or baizhu can make things a lot more comfortable
Baizhu is a bit redundant in this team
@@ionized_salmon6417 Yeah I would rather swap kuki for raiden for the longer rotations if using baizhu/furina, but honestly I have mostly found nahida/xq/al/kuki the comfiest al team since he can facetank almost everything in this setup and xq's swords can keep kuki/nahida alive if they get hit when swapping.
For this current boss event I have been running this team since most other teams without xq are getting oneshot if I miss a dodge.
@@PigeonPie that's my current team
@@ionized_salmon6417baizhu gives interrupt resist and healing (fanfare). If anything, kuki is a bit redundant and fischl would be better if available.
Baizhu interrupt resist shield is actually quite good to prevent you from getting knocked around, the heal is also very high, can replace kuki with raiden or fischl for battery
People have to consider that if Lvl.100 is a reality, Dendro would benefit a lot. So just take that in mind. And in the Theatre you can use multiple DPS of the same element in other rotations.
I'm more curious abt the 5.0 leak i saw being correct or not. Lets just say if its true dendro is getting an indirect buff. Though it's mainly focused on pyro and geo
yes they will beneift, but hoyo would also most likely adjust the scalings form 90 to 100
@@supermomo429 i think they just did i think it was through the current event or the arle heroic boss.
Alhaitham was my first ever 5* DPS back when I first started the game late 3.6 (lucked out and pulled him early during 3.7), and he's saved my but in story progression by far, and as someone who really loves the Dendro element, it has been great with no regrets at all. (Yes, Nahida is great and one of my favorite characters - along with Neuvillette, but I pulled Nahida MUCH later since I missed her last rerun and couldn't get her until Fontaine, so he was perfectly fine even before Nahida.)
Saying Nahida is the problem with dendro is like saying Bennett is the problem with attack scalers
and both of those statements are correct
it’s not the same because Nahida does TOO much for dendro compared to Bennet for attack scalers
Nahida does literally everything that a dendro unit can do except for healing, therefore she can replace any dendro character except for healers
I mean, yeah? Both are overly centralizing in their role to the point that it stifles team/unit diversity.
@@holyalexarkh5696 and even healing with proto amber
@@holyalexarkh5696Looks at my Nahida with Protoype Amber... I wanna dispute that last point.
this channel singlehandedly saving my genshin career
Dont let his lies fool you. If you're gonna use a dendro spread alhaitham dps team with only one electro character, you need baizhu in there. With that, you can use any electro offield dps. So raiden, fishcl, or yae miko will be the best options
He's not a professional theorycrafter...
I pulled Baizhu to support both Nueve and Alhaithem freeing up Nahida for other Bloom teams.
same. Nahida is so cracked that i think it feels like a waste of power at times to use Al and nahida on one side.
@usmanya5110 yup, the Baizhu teams are a little harder to play, but I'm fine with that.
@@magiclover9346 i wonder if it's due to the ER for Baizhu or his low dendro app. cause usually i put kuki on a full stacked em deepwood set for this issue and Baizhu sticks to instructors or 2pc EoSF+2pc HP or double HP sets(if they have enough er.). I don't think it's a big deal since the transformative reaction damage change is minimal and there's instructors and dendro res to help her reach 1000 em.
Same I honestly hate using nahida with Alhaitham cause honestly the rotation feels very annoying with always reapplying her skill.. ANDi don't like kuki as well sooo my team is a baizhu furina raiden team and it's still veeeeeeerry strong and it feels sososo comfortable
I generally play Al with Miko & Baizhu, throwing in Kazuha to swirl electro. It works for me as I rarely use my Nahida.
Alhaitham is a strong dps with or without Nahida. He is fun and pretty easy to build. His design is also great. He has a ton of value and has proven his worth over time. Still the 3rd best dps in the game…
like if anything i think Al is more tied to shinobu than Nahida. Nahida is good though if you wanna see those green numbers pop off, one of my favorite teams for Al is Al/Shinobu/Baizhu or Yaoyao/Any Hydro can work XQ is the best 4 star option but like even frickin Barbara can work well. for this team I usually ran a full EM Deepwood Kuki since i find Baizhu(C0) and Yaoyao to be unreliable deepwood holders at times due to RNG or Low dendro application and i don't mind it since Transformative reaction damage between sets are pretty minimal. Sometimes i still run it even with Nahida(holding GD or GT) since in some cases she causes occasional spreads and those spreads also pop off hard.
@@usmanya5110 I used to run kuki on deepwood too! I pulled Al early game for me and got kuki on standard, and suddenly overworld became easy. Until I got nahida I couldn't find a better deepwood holder than kuki either - kirara had to be c4. Now I have Nahida/Baizhu kuki is Gilded, but good to know I wasn't the only one.
I think al can work without kuki (either raiden, or in aggr Yae/fischl) but he becomes much less of a tanky support without kuki. In baiz/furina/al/raiden team I will die more often with more aggressive enemies since I'm so used to facetanking hits with kuki's healing.
@@PigeonPie That is absolutely insane because Baizhu heals way more than Kuki lmao
Without Nahida Alhaitham is not a DPS but a semi dps semi driver because you NEED that high dendro to maintain quicken with an hydro unit on the team or else, you won't have any spread and mostly deal raw damages and hyperbloom damages
@@stylerxo3654 but its very front loaded heals rather than consistent over time, its just skill issue/habit I have formed with Alhaitham since I played him with kuki for so much longer
I think the problem with dendro isn't necessary caused by nahida, but with archons in general. It seems like hoyo want to make archons the strongest on what they do and very hesitant to powercreep them. This is impacted differently on every element.
Anemo : the only element that the archon is powercreep by other. Most likely we will never get a better grouper than kazuha because it will powercreep venti again.
Geo : to this day there's no better shielder than zhongli. This is one of the reason why shielder is generally weaker than healer, they don't want to powerceeep zhongli.
Electro : it's very clear that hoyo is very cautious to make a better electro DPS than Raiden. Clorinde is toned down to aggravate DPS which raiden isn't to begin with. And most likely that they will never make a dedicated hyperbloom trigger because it will powercreep her and kuki.
Dendro : Nahida is the first limited 5* dendro, but they don't want future unit to powercreep her. So they raised the bar so high so that they can fill the gap with future unit. This is why other dendro feels worthless now.
Hydro : this is the perfect scenario. Furina is so strong but genshin is full of strong hydro unit within 3 years so she isn't as mandatory. I believe the future archons shouldn't have this problem too.
Sorry for the rant. I wonder what's your thoughts about how archons affected the game (positive and negative). Thanks for the great content!!!
I love your rundown! Don’t apologize! You’re spot-on and I get that they don’t want to power creep the archons for lore reasons as well as making sure their value remains relevant. I wish they hadn’t locked themselves in for this bc it really limits the value of newer units in the game. I think they had learned their lessons and applied it to Fontaine/Furina. However, I’m disappointed that they don’t push the envelope more.
One idea that I do love was from Jello and speculation of what’s to come. If they added a level 100 ascension and that ascension allowed a brand new passive for each character, it could give Hoyo a chance to correct some of these things. A way for them to allow some power creep to the archons but then give the archons something fresh that allows them to maintain value. Idk. I just really love that idea too bc we could fix older units like Yoimiya and others. Sigh… likely won’t happen but I can dream
I have to disagree with you re Venti. Up till now, he is still the best grouper. What his kit lacks is other buffs. But if we look at grouping ability, Venti is still the best. If we require more utility other than grouping, then Kazuha is the one.
C0 Raiden is more of an universal battery than a dps and no one does a better job than she. If you want dps Raiden, go for C2.
C0 Furina at most is a sub-dps with her seafood. She is currently the best buffer.
I think raiden is batter/dps but if you have constellation for her then she would be a hypercarry
Per some other comments, I think we've reached a point where the Archons are still good but they're starting to get pigeon-holed into hyper-specific "best of" roles and even then have other pros and cons that need to be considered (e.g. Furina's HP drain). With that in mind, I don't see why they can't introduce another good Dendro applicator. Nahida is great because she's application + AoE damage + buffing, so there shouldn't be an issue with divvying those roles up while leaving Nahida to be the great all-round package.
For instance, they could easily introduce a 5-star that applies Dendro consistently from a close-range aura. This would offer amazing synergy with Alhaitham since he's melee, or even Hyperbloom using Kuki. They could offload the Dendro application to a "pet" like Furina's or a better construct similar than Traveler's burst or even an "on-hit" mechanic like Yelan/XQ.
Regardless of what form it takes, my point is simply that Nahida is such a great all-round package that it would be really difficult for them to fully powercreep her.
@@lucassatie thing is we have a pet that applies dendro, look at yaoyao
It makes me sad that Nahida carries all Dendro reaction teams on her back, because there are so many Dendro and Electro characters I would love to have and build but I only have one Nahida.
@@woodykusaki9970craziest projection of the year
@@woodykusaki9970Nah, your take is so dumb
@@woodykusaki9970lmfaoooooo you got issues man💀⁉️
@@woodykusaki9970 bro its a video game, you getting mad over a video game?
For sure. You either have Nahida or Baizhu, but c2 Nahida is just a million times better than Baizhu.
Edit: I blame Mihoyo for giving Collei/Yaoyao that weird ICD.
"The problem with dendro"
Me clearing abyss with hyperbloom: 👁️👄👁️
if kaveh's not on his banner, i swear...
Do you plan on using kaveh, ever?
I mean I do. Plus he’s pretty. Sure his kit is… less than desirable but you can make anyone good if you really try lol
@@Warlord0786 yes. I have him lvl 90. I use him all the time in Dori Hyperbloom and Furina Baizhu Bloom
&MulderHiggins Will they finally let Kaveh out of the basement?? It’s been a year since he’s been on banner 😭
Who’s Kaveh?
Begging for Kuki to be on alhaithems banner.
Bingo
14:59 playing through Cyno's second story quest and meeting third character for the first time was so cool
Isn't Sethos in the 2nd half with Furina and Sigewine?
@@haydenz0he is on the first phase with Clorinde and Alhaitham
Glad you included the rotation section, thank you!
Heyyooo super early Dendro definitely needs a boost. Going for C2 Nahida on a rerun because dendro will always be relevant and she's the glue that holds all the teams together
Nahida is not necessary.
Also, jello seems like a waifu simp. The amount of "don't pull from Alhaitham" I heard in his video. He's definitely trying to discourage you. That's how waifu simps have always been all the way back to Albedos debut banner. I remember how Ganyu simps were literally telling me not to pull for Albedo. I pulled for Albedo though and skipped Ganyu.
i dont regret c2 nahida one bit, she's very good but not necessary
@@woodykusaki9970 OR he knows thet a dedicated on-fielder have low pull value, when you can do every team architype with an off-fielder as well (in this case with Nahida). He always discourage pulling on dedicated on-fielders, not just male ones.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 really. can you show me a video where he discouraged pulling for a waifu?
@@reactiondavant-garde3391you dont need a DPS to clear content in this game. But saying dont pull for alhaitham who is literally the 2nd best dps in the game?
I don't have him, nor do I plan on going for him, but updated guides are always great! I love when we get to reflect a bit on how the characters have changed with the ever expanding roster ad developing meta
He was my 2nd 5☆ after Yae, it is incredible how he simplified my play.
He is the reason why I can get all platinum plats in the Specially-shaped Saurian Search event, Without him, I don't think I can do it without him eventhough i have the others invested "top dps"
One day they'll add the Faruzan of Dendro and Alhaitham stonks will rise.
Problem is, C2 Nahida is "kinda" the Faruzan of dendro already 😅
Alhaitham was the first limited 5 star I ever pulled and he has carried me through most of the game. I'm f2p, I have him on R4 Iron Sting, full Gilded, triple crowned, and I play him with Xingqiu, Kuki, and Nahida. They're my best team by far.
(STILL CAN'T FKIN 36* ABYSS THOUGH)
Just realized you were Canadian also. Awesome. Great guide btw
I have alhaitham and dendro lumine and I don't plan on getting nahida at all. it works in abyss so no complaints
With the new endgame incentifies you to have boarder roster in your account, I think it make his pull value go up a bit. Still, if I would recommend newer player to go for 5* Dendro characters, he would be in the 3rd after Nahida and Baizhu bc
- Nahida literally carries the whole element.
- Baizhu offers 2 types of defensive utilities and can synergize very well with Furina that I think he has more pull value than Nahida is some situations.
Bro, my alhaitham only has like 140 CD , and he is doing way more damage in the same setup as you played. Now, I truly think an hybrid build is better . A mix of everything ✨️
Could u share your build??
My favorite Alhaitham team is Alhaitham, Baizhu, Xinqui and Kuki. I've got a lot of skill issue and this team is essentially immortal, and Alhaitham + a well build Xinqiu with the hyperblooms from Kuki does more than enough damage.
could i swap out raiden for kuki & yaoyao for baizhu?
@@richardm8155 You could, and it'll probably do the same amount of damage, but it won't be as comfy. Kuki heals, and Baizhu provides shields for interruption resistance. Damage wise though it's probably the same.
Alhaitham was my luckiest pull sess ever. I got him to c3 r2 in under 90 wishes, which is the only reason I want more cons now
Jello impact: genshin is really good at balancing their game
Also jello impact: Nahida is so good she makes all other dendro characters irrelevant/skippable
touche
Me who already has alhaitham: Hmm INTERESTING
I agree with Jello's advice at the end:
Don't just get a character because they're good. Because Ganyu and Tighnari taught me I don't like charged bow shot characters, I skipped Lyney - who is great for damage, but whose playstyle I don't enjoy (so I skip). Similarly, Hu Tao is one of the top pyro DPSs in the game and I got her because she was great... but I never got used to her style. Arlecchino plays the way I wish Hu Tao played, and I regret Hu Tao not because she's bad, but because I don't like her and I will always choose Arlecchino for a situation where I would have considered Hu Tao.
I have other examples, but I wanted to highlight two META characters that I either skipped or regretted. Don't go making my mistakes. :P
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sharing my experience:
ayato was my first 5 star pull and as such i did build him to my best effort (lvl 90, skill crowned, all lvl 20 artifact set)
i picked hyperbloom as his main team with nahida, xingqiu, kuki as the support (also built them well)
then after playing the game i liked alhaitham himself (from the story and from the fandom)
so now that i got him, my dismay after knowing that ill just basically gonna replace ayato with alhaitham in a team is kinda icky.
my other characters are not that built yet (only playing for less than a year) so im just stuck here not knowing what team i should put either one of the two
my option are vaporize for ayato or spread for alhaitham
my second team is overload yae, xiangling, bennet, chev
but if I pick spread i have to get yae a new artifact set, the guilded dreams, same as alhaitham so that's not fun
and i tested vaporize ayato w bennet xiangling and it's not that good lmaoooo
can't wait to get him, i like the character look, love his playstyle and everything looks good I'm already farming for him 😁
alhaitham mentioned, woo
Before getting Nahida, I was running dendro MC in her position with Alhaitham and Kuki, and it felt really strong. Also for 4 star (+ MC) challenges I run Kuki, Xingqui and dendro MC + a flex slot, and again this feels really strong. So Nahida may be the damage ceiling but hyperbloom rules even without her...
I will say that I agree with most of Jello’s eval but for me Alhaitham is also one of the more fun characters to play and that pushes him up a tier for me.
Jello:
You can use this
You can use that
You can use the other thing
You can use the broomstick
You can use mop
You can use your shoe on al haitham and he’ll asian slap the abyss
WE GEDDIT.
I love alhaitham! Hes great at c0 and has a f2p weapon option which makes me always recommend him to people looking for a low investment option! I run him with xq (c6), kuki (c6) and yaoyao (c2) on 4pc guilded set and enemies already melt like butter, slotting in nahida must be a ton of fun! I really love what dendro did for elemental reactions and hope genshin keeps up with other elemental reactions for the future 👍
Me with c1 nahida.
My time hasn't come yet.
+ I need furina rn
I'll pull him next time with my c2 nahida 😋
My go to Alhaitham team is
Furina, Kuki and Baizhu.
Very comfy and manages to keep him at 90%+ HP for HoD
As someone who doesn't like Nahida's design at all it really feels like it locks off a whole element.
Like I'd just rather play characters that I like than power teams, but Dendro (and most Electro) just feels sad without her.
my hyperbloom teams still can't clear their half in 1 min 30s so it is kinda hard to believe that hyperbloom is really that wow insane op
how important is the damage from non-hb sources within that team? (ie xingiu's rain swords from burst)
for context i run nahida ei xingqiu barbara and ei gets around 1k em w nahida ult
is it an artifact gap at this point?
by running barbara + raiden you're essentially losing a team slot here, which is VERY impactful on your damage. That's why kuki is so powerful for hyperbloom, she allows you to run nahida + two offensive characters.
So you either have to switch to kuki from raiden, or go try hard and do xingqiu as your only defensive option. And definitely xingqiu + (yelan, fischl, furina, etc) are impactful to your overall DPS.
@@JelloImpact This! I use Raiden as trigger fairly often but she only feels good with on field kokomi's good damage + healing. You really want 3 characters that bring at least some decent damage + the trigger.
Do note that Nahida's burst doesn't work for off field characters so most of the time if you are bursting with her on the standard hyperbloom teams it's only for her on field duties while the other characters do their stuff off field, so Raiden doesn't get buffed by her burst, everything that jello said above is correct but also note that in pure hyperbloom triggering capabilities Raiden is better by a small margin but she doesn't provide healing and is useless against shields (I run nahida XQ kuki fischl and it works great for me but my fischl and xq builds are definitely lacking)
That’s the problem with hyperbloom it’s consistent but it’s not an always go to options in abyss. People cope by saying just use hyperbloom and you be fine but there’s so much more than that goes into it. I’ll give you my teams example I can clear the current abyss with Team navia, xiangling, Bennett, zhongli. Team xiao, faruzan, xianyun, zhongli or furina. Team knave, mono pyro with zhongli or kazuha and yelan zhongli. Team wanderer, faruzan, Bennett,zhongli. Team hu tao basic comp. Then team nevi with a pyro with like xiangling. Team raiden national or hyper. See how just hyperbloom fall off here with these example. Not including team rotation and positioning of the mobs. Having a team wide of variation equal more clears and comfort instead of the just one comp that people hype it to be broken that u need nothing else when it’s not true. But what am I to say I guess -_-.
I don’t thinks it’s an artifact gap more like a team choices but as the saying goes for a lot of the causal player play what you like if you can clear good. If not probably rethink what went wrong and how can you do better. If it’s artifacts then refarm again. If that’s not it pick characters that you will benefit more off of.
Got him a while back and didn’t regret it. That’s despite me having c2 Nahida and c3 Tighnari. He still holds his own in many teams even at c0r0 (mine uses Xiphos’ which is almost as drippy as PJC). But power wise, pulling two extra Nahida’s was definitely more than twice the value. Thankfully he’s relatively cheap in the sense you just need him, once, and you’re set. I mean you don’t *need* Nahida cons but c2 is hella tempting. I’ve decided the only characters I’m actively going to hunt cons for are archon level supports/hybrids with the massive flexibility they have. Next target is C2R1 Furina (C1R0 atm).
It’s enough if it’s enough is the best way to describe kuki’s healing 😭😂
Yep my Kuki’s substats rolled well with more HP and I still need to know enemy patterns and dodge at least half the attacks for it to keep up
@@studiesinflux1304 relatable especially when u switch up to her and she’s low hp. Good thing i have her c6 and i get a second chance at life with her 😭😂
I pulled alhaitham on his last rerun and still enjoy playing him and probably never stop enjoying his playstyle
I got lucky when I pulled his weapon, I've gotten 3 40CV dendro goblets since I've pulled him with one of them being perfect substats Double Crit ER, EM I got just the other day
My alhaitham build has 250 CV which is a lot granted the build I got on Is a 2pc/2pc combo with one of them being leftover wanderer's troupe pieces I don't use on anyone else atm
I just want to mention if you don't have nahida its ok if you still want alhaitham I own nahida and I choose to not play her with alhaitham and I still get good clears
I play *Alhaitham, Furina, Kuki, Baizhu they are all C0*
Funnily enough I've played this team replacing baizhu with Proto Amber nahida and even tho it was good but for my alhaitham team I didn't see that much improvement except in certain scenarios because outside of nahida's DMG her buff to my alhaitham felt less impactful due to how good my alhaitham build is to a point that I would have to put more DMG artifacts on nahida to see a bigger difference
i have both him and nahida but personally i play alhaitham without her but rather with baizhu for shields and better sustain. but even as solo dendro he's totally fine. pretty strong dps overall, fun gameplay, good for hyperbloom, aggravate, nilou blooms
I pulled Alhaitham not for meta but well, for his looks.
My Alhaitham still tears up abyss with Baizhu as his partner in crime.
Please help me decide if switching from nahida c6, top 100 xinqiu, yelan c2 and kuki, to alhaitam in xinqiu’s stead is worth it. Mentioning for damage gauging purposes that xingqiu rocks an r5 jade ~
ooo great video!
i use alhaitham in a spread team with miko, fischl, and baizhu and it always clears abyss so i wouldn't say that he needs nahida
I use Baizhu instead of Nahida and though He does not buff as much as her, Haitham deals a lot of damage on his own honestly and the decrease in dendro res just helps him even more
50% awesome alhaitham guide 50% nahida is too good rant
Guess now I don’t regret getting Chiori’s weapon as much as I
I feel like to make Dendro more versatile outside of bloom variants they need a "Cheveruse" for quicken
IE Somone who could buff Tignhari or Al Hathim teams built around straight up attacking.
(Even more specifically, a dendro off field one so they can use deepwood to replace Nahida's slot)
Kuki makes me mad thou, because I still haven't gotten her despite her 2 reruns
I’ll be getting Alhaitham with Sethos (hopefully)!! :D
I look forward to your videos so much ngl
Plese answer i dont havr nahida for hyperbloom whom should i use instead
I kind of feel bad for my Al. 9,9,9 lv 90 and have never used him. Ty 4 the vid
Good vid overall. The only thing i would disagree with is that saying units like hutao and especially raiden is close to his performance. Hutao is only comparable to him in ST and Raiden is honestly very mediocre by current dps standards.
Fair enough, he does have good both AOE and single target which definitely separates him. Added to pinned comment
Raiden is only a burst DPS and battery she's not an on field DPS so you are wrong, give her the signature weapon and her C2 and she obliterates everything she clean up the screen and leaves the field while recharging everyone abilities in the process
@@KamiKaXi But then you are comparing unequal investment. Raiden at C2 R1 is 3 5 star pulls, and currently there are many characters like Neuv, Arlecchino, even Lyney who can achieve better results at the same investment level, or similar results with less pulls.
@@KamiKaXi yeah, she becomes barely competitive with her signature AND her c2 😱
Raiden is shines because of her flexibility not her raw unga Bunga strength.
@@aerohydra3849 C1R1 Wriothesely is better than C2R1 Raiden tbh
Alha is a beast at c0r1. I'd rather get him than go hyperbloom with nahida onfield and double hydro. Also for pure agg/spread w/kuki nahi baizou; in close combat it's bonkers. Alha clears abyss rooms in 3 seconds ^^ It's not an easy skip tbh
I don't have mahida and I am really torn if I should pull for Baizhu now or save for him...I have a guarantee and am at 77 pity
I tend to play Alhaitham/Yae/Nahida/Baizhu. Baizhu just gives so much sustain and buffs alhaithams damage up incredibly well.
But yeah, I forgot he might have more value in proccing more aggrevates damage wise. Not having that 2nd electro hurts his damage. But damn so squishy then.
Uhm no the team is fine. You don’t need "more" electro to trigger more reactions. For spread you only need quicken aura which lasts quite a long time. Yae as an electro is more than enough here
he came at such a bad time. alhaitham furina and childe were the 3 characters I was planing on saving for. but with furina coming right after him I'm probably gonna have to wait another year to bring him home 😭
I'm fine with Nahida in everything, one of fav characters
I think it's going to be close to impossible to make a dendro team that functions better without Nahida or have a dendro character that's a VERY close alternative. It may be possible with c0 nahida for the f2p though
How about Nilou and Al Haitham ?
He mentioned it. It’s viable at best but for both units there are better options
Question: Can Dendro get any better than it already is?
Without massive power creep that is?
Only improvement I can see is a 5* Kuki and that's about it?
Remember Neuvillete and Hydro traveler got the same Kit
Dendro can improve in 1 way: a New DPS stronger than Alhaitham lol
Or else Raiden shogun is 30% better than Kuki in hyperbloom
dendro has already shown sign of falling off, electro dps(s) tend to have lower numbers and alhaitham being the only dendro dps not having any cons has really hurt dendro teams' dps. you can maybe get a new kuki that heals more but the realistic option is alhaitham 2.0 with good cons
ALhait is fun. His teams are fun. highly recommend if you can build his teams well.
That's all well and good but I wanna know who's getting killed somewhere in your house? (11:13)
i have kazuha, diluc, lpttsw, kuki, xiangling, qingchu, bennet,built.
So, which character is good for my account in 4.7 banner?
I wouldnt say Alhaitham Kuki Xingqiu Nahida is a "premium" team. Two 4 stars that dont need constellations (okay maybe kuki needs c2), the 5 star dps, and a universally good buffer is rather budget for a team.
Your videos are great as always! I'm at 45 pity and have saved 80 pulls until now. I'm so confused if I should pull for Alhaitham and then Furina
if Alhaitham banner also features Kuki or chevreuse , then you'd have no choice but to pull on his banner, even if u want Furina more... also its not 80 pulls rather 180 pulls for a guarantee
my thoughts on Al
-as a 1st Dendro pull he's pretty banger and that's what i'm planning to do on my 2nd account. obviously Nahida is better and higher value but Alhaitham is still very strong unit even without her. though if you have nahida his value can somewhat drop or increase depending on your situation since she herself is stupidly busted, she's nuts. before i barely used them together because nahida is so busted that i think it would feel too much if i use both on one side, and that my international team wasn't built yet. i started using them both together now after i finished building it.
-i wouldn't pull him if i didn't have Shinobu any off field electro can work but to me she feels like Alhaitham's tool to function really well.
ngl one of the funniest teams i played is running Al with three healers and for some reason it slaps. Barbara in instructors, Yaoyao/Baizhu on SoDP and Kuki on Deepwood. i run Kuki on deepwood nearly everytime with Al usually even with or without nahida. so i don't have worry about Baizhu's low off field application and Yaoyao's RNG and Short range, and the damage between transformative reactions isn't really that big, when i'm with nahida it makes run an offensive set and sometimes she does occasionally cause some spreads. for Deepwood Shinobu the way to build her would be full em and stack her with as much EM and hp substats as much as possible and dendro res and i'm able to reach 1k em.
edit:i forgot about how he is good in ST and while also doing good in AoE. and how his rotations are pretty flexible, like you can do Q first and save the E or vice versa. or the Q,E plunge combo for bosses.
I was confused around 1:00 on signature weapon but showing Jade Cutter. I assume Light of Foliar Incision was meant to be said/shown. Great video overall.
Yes oops should have been more clear
Light of foliar incision is still the best looking weapon in the game😭
I almost had this Dendro problem with Cyno, but Baizhu deals with it. In a team with Furina, Baizhu, Nahida and Cyno, if I need to change a unit for another Electro, I switch it in Nahida's place, 'cause Baizhu aplication is more relevant for Cyno.
i have c2 nahida nad c2 furina . what i should summon. chlorinde or alhaithem
I really want a pretty tall female model dendro sub-dps. Right now I feel like Nahida just does it all, I would love to see a Dendro off-fielder that specializes in burn or quicken so that Nahida specializes in bloom instead of specializing in everything. I used to think that at least Aggravate didn’t want her, but now with Clorinde not even Aggravate is safe from the cabbage child.
I'm thinking on pulling for Sethos, and I don't want Clorinde (I already use Keqing and I don't see many reason to pull for Clorinde, they seem very similar). So I'm just watching this just to see if I could see myself having Alhaitham on my account or not, in case I get him early.
His other banners I simply didn't like his playstyle (it seemed too focused on fixed combos to extend more the mirror durations), but maybe I could give him a shot if I get him, I already have a leveled up Harbinger hanging around, and I have dendro DPS artifacts as well that he could use. It would be great if Sethos comes in only 10 pulls, though, then I'd just keep my gems to the rumoured Burning subdps.
imma be honest, my first limited 5 star was nahida and i am never going back. she just makes everything so much better, from abyss clears to collecting reasorces, especially for newer players shes super op. i will always think hyperbloom is the best rection in the game judt because of hiw flexible it is. never going back
Is there a table of characters that benefit the most from leveling them up to 90, and for which 80 + ascension is sufficient?
Usually just hp scaling characters (furina,yelan and so forth) and people that's better off with em like anemo characters like venti and kazuha, and of course characters that's pops dendro reactions mostly just Raiden and kuki
Was patiently waiting for alhaithem until tighnari showed up on a 50/50 loss, and he’s been filling the dendro dps role so well I’m now debating on if alhaithem is even worth it
same i have nari c1 and he does just fine in single target, so ill probably go for furina instead
What is the purpose of that Alhaitam swap before he gets his infusion?
No matter what alhaitham will probably always be the best dendro after nahida aand theres also the fact that they are used together often
Thoughts on Harbinger of Dawn for Alhaitham: I get that on paper it's great, but does anyone actually use it?
I used it before getting his own weapon and it worked amazing. He was hitting big numbers plus helping my crit stats stay balanced.
@@KOTSIDAS21 Nice. It's one of the few blue weapons I actually built to level 90, R5, and then kept around (along with TTDS).
I got his signature and he's triple crowned. One of my favorite characters. But I don't think I need his cons.
Can you do an updated c0 ayaka guide (as in how to play her)?
Soo...I did all I could but couldn't get Arlecchino. Now I'm 5-10 wishes away from a guaranteed 5* and wondering...should I get Nilou? Or Dendro Keqing? I want more Sumeru characters, but they all look either niche (Nilou) or not sumerian (Wanderer). I already Have C2 Raiden and C3 Keqing, plus maybe want Clorinde, so Cyno as another electro DPS is definitely not tempting, as cool as he is. Any opinions appreciated, thanks. (Yes, I have Nahida).
the value of alhaitham is that he can make a viable dendro team without nahida, no other dendro user can do that, it´s either with nahida or you don´t use them at all