Just hearing you talk about how the levels are designed gave me an idea. You could take away the acts and just have levels. That way you could transition from green hill zone to the woods, bridge zone whatever you like. Then you would actually feel like you are travelling around the map world more. But I know how much people like acts. Probably why I love DKC and Mario World for their maps and how you progress.
The Aug. 21st build is my favorite prototype honestly. It's so close to the spanish promotional video I used to watch being like "Where's more of those lost builds?" That to me is a gem. I lost it when that was found. It's a slightly more playable Wai prototype haha!
The September 14 prototype and Masato Nakamura's demo version of the unused song prove it was probably not supposed to be Hidden Palace Zone's theme or the BGM for any zone. Its actual theme, at least as a proper zone, was the one used for Mystic Cave Zone in 2P VS. It's unknown where the theme would have played. Here are some common theories: • There was a minute-long cutscene when collecting the Chaos Emeralds and it was meant to play there with the ending from the demo. • Sonic would be transported to Hidden Palace before each special stage like when collecting the Super Emeralds in Sonic & Knuckles and the looped version would have played there (linked to the previous theory). • The game's ending had different music depending on whether or not all Chaos Emeralds had been collected.
When loading zone ID 03, presumed to belong to Sand Shower Zone because of the world map art, in the "Simon Wai" prototype, the theme for Oil Ocean Zone plays. Multiple prototypes use the Casino Night Zone (2P VS) music for Oil Ocean instead. I assume Brenda Ross didn't know the name of the desert zone, so she thought it was called Dust Hill Zone because, prior to 2017, that was seen as fact; Craig Stitt designed Hidden Palace as a cave not knowing it was supposed to be a palace. The others might have misremembered, presumably also prior to 2017 when the map art wasn't revealed. The Dust Hill name being used for Mystic Cave can't be because of it replacing the desert zone, because they have different IDs. One of Aquatic Ruin Zone's early names is Neo Green Hill Zone, showing it was probably intended for the future time period if it was concieved when the time travel plot was still planned. It replaced the second act of Cyber City Zone, which made it appear as if it were to come between Cyber City and Death Egg in prototypes. Aquatic Ruin's theme probably always belonged to Aquatic Ruin. The supposed "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" riff might actually be the Tarzan scream. It definitely wasn't for Sand Shower Zone. Rock World Zone is definitely the winter zone. It's a direct counterpart to Sand Shower Zone, which appears in the same location as Rock World. The ID that is supposed to belong to Rock World Zone even plays the Sky Chase music. 'Medieval Time' is a mistranslation of the past/ancient time period.
U deserve my sub, talking 1 hour about the sonic 2 prototype is tough. Having music on top and background graphics and on context images must be painful...
In fact, that image of the Sand Shower Zone would be one of the first photos of the first prototype of Sonic The Hedgehog 2, I believe it was an early prototype, where I would use an initial Tails sprite, where he would be brown, and Sonic's sprite would be from S1 but with different colors.
Sonic 1 released a week before my younger sister was born so I can confirm that is close to the actual release date. My older cousin nabbed a copy immediately and gave it to me later on. :)
25:26 it could be that Dust Hill's level slot was used for mystic cave in the final game, there's also the possiblity of there being 2 desert levels initially in the game, i like to think that Dust Hill was that one level from the image and that Sand Shower became aquatic ruins (because the name makes it sound like it would mix a desert level with water)
@@The1SunshineFeelerIt's been pretty much confirmed that Winter Zone is a later concept of Rock World Zone, since in some documents, an ice level is stated to be the past version of a desert level, and Rock World is in the same spot as Sand Showers is in the past map, not to mention they both share graphics, much like Emerald Hill and Hilltop, plus, Rock World's level slot in the Simon Wai build plays the Sky Chase theme, which further confirms Rock World had been turned into a winter zone by that point
16:35 Again with the FAX. The Half Pipe Stages were such a hassle to deal with (even if future ports allowed you to see the rings better). Idk why many Classic Sonic games had to reuse this idea multiple times (although to Sonic 2’s credit they did give you many chances).
You have brilliant knowledge on the original narrative of the Mega Drive era with the islands and their respective lore. Also I wonder if Hill Top and Hidden Palace's dinosaur themed badniks are remnants of the time travel idea
Man, i know your channel is new and all but you feel like a channel whodeserves way more subs than you currently have. Your content is good. Hope more people recognise ur talent sooner than later
You mentioning Archives made me do a double take. I actually know the guys working on that hack, and helped with some code for the (currently WIP) special stage. Great people, especially great artists, don’t know when you should expect new public builds but I know you guys will like what they’re cooking Don’t have much to say about the video itself, without just basically repeating it anyway
Tails losing rings makes sense when you consider he loses rings when he's hit in the special stages AND he's controlled by player 2, who is able to collect his own rings in those special stages and loses them when hit. The ring count is still combined, but they each had their own. I wonder if the final version would have had it the same way in the regular zones too?
I doubt it would’ve made it into the final game, because given how much more complex Tails’ AI is in the regular zones, it would’ve created so many problems that the game would be nearly unplayable in single player, and the developers would have to account for so many situations and redesign levels in order to prevent them, which they didn’t have the time to deal with . In the special stages all he does is follow Sonic left to right and jump, and the only things you can do are dodge bombs and collect rings, so there’s not really as many situations to account for.
@@The1SunshineFeeler Maybe the reason there were so many zones was to compete with how many levels were in Super Mario World? I know you said it was most likely 18 zones and one act per zone, but if you were to multiply each zone by 2 or 3, you would get a high number of acts in the same ballpark as a Mario game at the time.
I still hope that someone talented creates an entire fan game about it, like Sonic 2 was planned. Still with the Sonic 2 Levels inside. This would be such a big and nice 2D Sonic game.
Its amazing how the algorithm has pucked your channel up! The community needs more people who have their favts straight and deliver in debth content! Congratulations on 1k!
honestly I didn't expected a one hour video about sonic 2 the next day after I've subscribed to you it's like the content gods making sure I have enough content so i don't get bored
Oh my god…. A new creator, he does sonic things, he’s amazing, he deserves more subs, and he uses music from the ova? I think your gonna go real far in life. Keep it up!
Dust Hill Zone might be a mine cave from the old west and take place after the Sand Shower Zone. The transition works from level to level that way. Eh just a theory. It'd make for a cool hack.
Great videos dude! I just stumbled across your content tonight. Really informative and fun narration! I'm now subbed to your channel. :) By the way-- did you hear that actual raw Sand Shower graphics were found on one of Tom Payne's development disks? It was discovered literally yesterday!
Nice vid, the topic needed someone to go thru all the early versions, like you did here. :) Although it still seems that the 2 most-important ones are: the Nick Arcade prototype, and the Simon Wai prototype. The later ones are just filling in the last details of the final version. Which is basically the impression I got, some years ago, when I was first looking at the topic, it's mainly those 2 that are worth playing. (There's also several great hacks that fill-out the lost stages, I was going to make a vid about that someday, haha.)
Genocide city zone actually still existed after that whole time travel idea was scrapped and was supposed to Act as the original Act 3 to Metropolis zone but also being it’s own single Act. It was possibly scrapped when the beta builds were starting to get made and could still exist as a zone in a beta build which we don’t have access to yet
Amazing video, my only suggestion is maybe lowering the music a bit more. It's very close to the volume of your voice which makes it a bit harder to focus.
Damn. I only found out that Shelly had passed away during editing hence why I didn’t mention it in the recording (I had already knew Greg Martin passed away), but I went all this time and somehow never heard about Kodama’s passing. R.I.P.
Pardon the double post but one theory about the music i have; The music used for Aquatic ruins could have originally been used for Sand Showers zone. very subtle we can hear a 5-note leitmotif popularly used and parodied in Western (as in cowboys) media. Aquatic ruins theme; ua-cam.com/video/AzoB6XXnea0/v-deo.html The Good, the Bad and The Ugly leitmotif; ua-cam.com/video/hBD6s0bE45U/v-deo.html However, as someone in the comments under the AR deconstruction video mentioned it could have been the Tarzan Scream mentioined. Considering AR is based in a jungle-y type of place and Tarzan did take place in a jungle too this could have also been the case. However i personally thingk its more a reference to the The Good, The Bad and the Ugly considering how popular that song became, topping no.4 on the billboards at some point in time aswell as how heavily referenced that leitmotif in western (cowboys etc) media before the release of sonic 2. The tarzan scream is ONLY known as the Tarzan scream. TGtBatU leitmotife is known known as THE western/cowboy leitmotif, or hell even referenced in areas that look like it could be the backdrop of a western cowboy film. Sand Showers looks like that with the Cacti, the rock formations in the background that resemble that of MONUMENT VALLEY Monument Valley- a location seen often in western cowboy films/media.
The music for Simon Wai prototype of Sonic 2 slow music is better sometimes and also Some different music from the prototype is better then the final Sonic 2. No pressure.
I think when I was writing the script I was originally gonna put a “Why does it look like Vegas?!” when I got to the finalized Casino Night, but I forgot to put it in 😂
I think what you went with was MUCH better. Everyone was quoting the vegas line I'm glad you put in the inflatable hand women. Or the blowing into your hand and making a pumpkin appear@@The1SunshineFeeler
48:52 Also, track 10 isn’t Hidden Palace’s theme, if I remember correctly one of the developers stated that track 10 was supposed to be cutscreen music
I’ve heard from a UA-camr once that possibly Wood Zone, Dust Hill Zone, Hidden Palace, and Genocide City Zone could have more complete versions in a undiscovered beta build between Nick Arcade and Simon Wai. Just have to wait and see if a build like that ever does get leaked ✌️
57:59 this is the 1st time they met so maybe Tails didn’t get the oversized shoes and gloves until later. I also like the origins version a bit more because we actually get to see Tails’s bullies and Sonic helping Tails by stopping them.
Maybe some time in the future if more gets discovered about that game, but I feel like for now everything that could be said about that game has been said before and I have nothing to add :)
I’ve heard that the 2 player Mystic cave music was actually supposed to be the music used for Dust Hill/Sand Shower zone once :v Don’t have any evidence to support this idea but just a single UA-cam video called “Dust Hill Act 1 music” which is literally just the 2 player Mythic Cave music. Though honestly the soundtrack does kinda have that outlandish Desert vibe to it
Tails sharing the same bank account with Sonic wasn't a good idea and which doesn't make sense for them to take a long time to remove it. Actually Tails sharing the bank account despite just meeting Sonic was already a weird thing
24:30: That’s not a Nazi symbol. It’s the original Buddhist symbol, the Nazi symbol is the backwards version. Which makes sense actually. The Buddhist symbol shows a Z like Zen. :)
@@The1SunshineFeeler Well ok lol, I'm glad to provide the footnote that the Buddhist symbol of peace, remains a living symbol, for forever. Completely regardless that the Nazi's made their own... backwards, hate-symbol, it doesn't affect the original Buddhist teachings of peace, from 2,600 years ago, and into the future. For example, Buddha statues have always been carved with the original symbol, on their chest. :)
Are there timestamps for the music names in the video I just watched this whole thing and did not realize I needed to look out for those, did not look at the desc till it was over
Oh crap! I forgot to point that out! It’s the same thing with Knuckles in the special stages if you plug Sonic 2 into Sonic & Knuckles. The reason is that their torsos are based on Sonic’s sprite, thus their arms share the different pale palette.
Dude started 4 days ago and is making peak content already
Thank you! I’ve actually been working on these videos for over a month now and just put them out 😂
@@The1SunshineFeelerreally awesome I love this kind of stuff
Real
Bro been grinding 💪😂
Mystery and lost rare data fits
Just hearing you talk about how the levels are designed gave me an idea. You could take away the acts and just have levels. That way you could transition from green hill zone to the woods, bridge zone whatever you like. Then you would actually feel like you are travelling around the map world more. But I know how much people like acts. Probably why I love DKC and Mario World for their maps and how you progress.
I would suspect Tails losing your rings was a consequence of copying the code for Sonic, never an intentional feature.
Yeah that was a bug with him in that leaked build
16:20 "Bad" ending
Agreed entirely. It makes Shadows death scene in SA2 hit so much harder too.
Great vudeo essay BTW
Wow... I never realized that parallel. 🤯
This man is the new cybershell
Cybershell if he was good
@@warning7555 he is good
@@LordFrieza626that's the joke
I live in Russia and I had a cartridge in my childhood with some of Sonic 2 prototype. If only I knew it was rare thing :(
The Aug. 21st build is my favorite prototype honestly. It's so close to the spanish promotional video I used to watch being like "Where's more of those lost builds?" That to me is a gem. I lost it when that was found. It's a slightly more playable Wai prototype haha!
The Track 10 (hidden Palace) haunted my childhood and years playing the game trying to find where that song was in the main game
The September 14 prototype and Masato Nakamura's demo version of the unused song prove it was probably not supposed to be Hidden Palace Zone's theme or the BGM for any zone. Its actual theme, at least as a proper zone, was the one used for Mystic Cave Zone in 2P VS.
It's unknown where the theme would have played. Here are some common theories:
• There was a minute-long cutscene when collecting the Chaos Emeralds and it was meant to play there with the ending from the demo.
• Sonic would be transported to Hidden Palace before each special stage like when collecting the Super Emeralds in Sonic & Knuckles and the looped version would have played there (linked to the previous theory).
• The game's ending had different music depending on whether or not all Chaos Emeralds had been collected.
But if using A game Genie and going to the stage it plays track 10
18:30 Game Theory: Some of the original stages from S2 8B were probably intended to be in S2's South Island time travel plot
When loading zone ID 03, presumed to belong to Sand Shower Zone because of the world map art, in the "Simon Wai" prototype, the theme for Oil Ocean Zone plays. Multiple prototypes use the Casino Night Zone (2P VS) music for Oil Ocean instead.
I assume Brenda Ross didn't know the name of the desert zone, so she thought it was called Dust Hill Zone because, prior to 2017, that was seen as fact; Craig Stitt designed Hidden Palace as a cave not knowing it was supposed to be a palace. The others might have misremembered, presumably also prior to 2017 when the map art wasn't revealed. The Dust Hill name being used for Mystic Cave can't be because of it replacing the desert zone, because they have different IDs.
One of Aquatic Ruin Zone's early names is Neo Green Hill Zone, showing it was probably intended for the future time period if it was concieved when the time travel plot was still planned. It replaced the second act of Cyber City Zone, which made it appear as if it were to come between Cyber City and Death Egg in prototypes.
Aquatic Ruin's theme probably always belonged to Aquatic Ruin. The supposed "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" riff might actually be the Tarzan scream. It definitely wasn't for Sand Shower Zone.
Rock World Zone is definitely the winter zone. It's a direct counterpart to Sand Shower Zone, which appears in the same location as Rock World. The ID that is supposed to belong to Rock World Zone even plays the Sky Chase music.
'Medieval Time' is a mistranslation of the past/ancient time period.
This video is actually one of the most accurate I've seen in regards to Sonic 2's full development and very in depth, great stuff
U deserve my sub, talking 1 hour about the sonic 2 prototype is tough. Having music on top and background graphics and on context images must be painful...
In fact, that image of the Sand Shower Zone would be one of the first photos of the first prototype of Sonic The Hedgehog 2, I believe it was an early prototype, where I would use an initial Tails sprite, where he would be brown, and Sonic's sprite would be from S1 but with different colors.
Sonic 1 released a week before my younger sister was born so I can confirm that is close to the actual release date. My older cousin nabbed a copy immediately and gave it to me later on. :)
25:26 it could be that Dust Hill's level slot was used for mystic cave in the final game, there's also the possiblity of there being 2 desert levels initially in the game, i like to think that Dust Hill was that one level from the image and that Sand Shower became aquatic ruins (because the name makes it sound like it would mix a desert level with water)
Can't believe we now know how the Winter level would've look
Yeah, I’m so happy we got that! I would love to know where the idea came from since it wasn’t on the concept map 🤔
@@The1SunshineFeelerIt's been pretty much confirmed that Winter Zone is a later concept of Rock World Zone, since in some documents, an ice level is stated to be the past version of a desert level, and Rock World is in the same spot as Sand Showers is in the past map, not to mention they both share graphics, much like Emerald Hill and Hilltop, plus, Rock World's level slot in the Simon Wai build plays the Sky Chase theme, which further confirms Rock World had been turned into a winter zone by that point
16:35 Again with the FAX. The Half Pipe Stages were such a hassle to deal with (even if future ports allowed you to see the rings better). Idk why many Classic Sonic games had to reuse this idea multiple times (although to Sonic 2’s credit they did give you many chances).
I love the Sonic the Sludgehog drawing so much.
yo, its the wacky resignation bro! wassuppp
Imagine a day we could have the ultimate Sonic 2 based on the original concepts with all the planned levels and story.
You have brilliant knowledge on the original narrative of the Mega Drive era with the islands and their respective lore.
Also I wonder if Hill Top and Hidden Palace's dinosaur themed badniks are remnants of the time travel idea
Man, i know your channel is new and all but you feel like a channel whodeserves way more subs than you currently have. Your content is good. Hope more people recognise ur talent sooner than later
Thanks a lot!!
You mentioning Archives made me do a double take. I actually know the guys working on that hack, and helped with some code for the (currently WIP) special stage. Great people, especially great artists, don’t know when you should expect new public builds but I know you guys will like what they’re cooking
Don’t have much to say about the video itself, without just basically repeating it anyway
Tails losing rings makes sense when you consider he loses rings when he's hit in the special stages AND he's controlled by player 2, who is able to collect his own rings in those special stages and loses them when hit. The ring count is still combined, but they each had their own. I wonder if the final version would have had it the same way in the regular zones too?
I doubt it would’ve made it into the final game, because given how much more complex Tails’ AI is in the regular zones, it would’ve created so many problems that the game would be nearly unplayable in single player, and the developers would have to account for so many situations and redesign levels in order to prevent them, which they didn’t have the time to deal with . In the special stages all he does is follow Sonic left to right and jump, and the only things you can do are dodge bombs and collect rings, so there’s not really as many situations to account for.
@@The1SunshineFeeler Maybe the reason there were so many zones was to compete with how many levels were in Super Mario World? I know you said it was most likely 18 zones and one act per zone, but if you were to multiply each zone by 2 or 3, you would get a high number of acts in the same ballpark as a Mario game at the time.
I still hope that someone talented creates an entire fan game about it, like Sonic 2 was planned. Still with the Sonic 2 Levels inside. This would be such a big and nice 2D Sonic game.
I'm really digging these prototype sonic vids, man!
I appreciate that you’re recording on original hardware. Ngl the retro aesthetic looks pretty cool. It’s something you don’t see everyday lol
Its amazing how the algorithm has pucked your channel up! The community needs more people who have their favts straight and deliver in debth content! Congratulations on 1k!
This is some good stuff my man, always appreciate some high quality sonic history videos
honestly I didn't expected a one hour video about sonic 2 the next day after I've subscribed to you it's like the content gods making sure I have enough content so i don't get bored
I got your back 👍
Thank you for making this so long it’s amazingly detailed
Oh my god…. A new creator, he does sonic things, he’s amazing, he deserves more subs, and he uses music from the ova? I think your gonna go real far in life. Keep it up!
This feels like a video from a seasoned UA-camr, not a sub 1000 UA-camr
Dust Hill Zone might be a mine cave from the old west and take place after the Sand Shower Zone. The transition works from level to level that way. Eh just a theory. It'd make for a cool hack.
Great videos dude! I just stumbled across your content tonight. Really informative and fun narration! I'm now subbed to your channel. :)
By the way-- did you hear that actual raw Sand Shower graphics were found on one of Tom Payne's development disks? It was discovered literally yesterday!
Sonic CD really is like a mix of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 but exists as it's own thing.
Nice vid, the topic needed someone to go thru all the early versions, like you did here. :)
Although it still seems that the 2 most-important ones are: the Nick Arcade prototype, and the Simon Wai prototype. The later ones are just filling in the last details of the final version. Which is basically the impression I got, some years ago, when I was first looking at the topic, it's mainly those 2 that are worth playing. (There's also several great hacks that fill-out the lost stages, I was going to make a vid about that someday, haha.)
excuse me…596 SUBS?! HOW?! YOU ARE SO GREAT! NEW FAVORITE UA-camR BESIDES PIKKAI!
Genocide City might have been like a bad future type of zone. Like a zone where Robotnik takes over and destroys everything with his robots.
Well it IS in the bad future.
Genocide city zone actually still existed after that whole time travel idea was scrapped and was supposed to Act as the original Act 3 to Metropolis zone but also being it’s own single Act. It was possibly scrapped when the beta builds were starting to get made and could still exist as a zone in a beta build which we don’t have access to yet
Amazing video, my only suggestion is maybe lowering the music a bit more. It's very close to the volume of your voice which makes it a bit harder to focus.
Reiko Kodama passed away not too long ago too. She worked on a lot of good Sega games.
Damn. I only found out that Shelly had passed away during editing hence why I didn’t mention it in the recording (I had already knew Greg Martin passed away), but I went all this time and somehow never heard about Kodama’s passing. R.I.P.
The second i saw this video, i knew i needed to watch it 😂 you're already becoming my favorite creator
Wow, thanks!
for the sand and winter zones, seeing as one is a recolour of another, I'd imagine they'd have similar music too.
i guess that Dust Hill is just a dryed out Green Hill
I always wondered why they never added little parachutes to the Flickies in Sky Chase Zone. Would of been so cute.
Good video! Didn't know about some stuff here. Also, Saiyan in Japanese is Saiyajin.
Yeah I mispronounced it and I didnt notice until it was too late and didn’t get the chance to edit it out 😭
Ngl I really like Casino Night's original colors and layout.
Hey, i came for your Sonic retro post.. Good content man, greetings from Argentina !
That’s great! Thanks for watching!
35:02 Take it back.
Great video! Very informative and well researched.
You got yourself a sub! :)
24:24 to 24:31
GREAT
That Night Club song sounds more like it belongs in Aladdin on Sega Genesis rather than Sonic 2.
How on earth do you just have 2K, I would legit see some content like this from somebody who’s been around 4-7 years
Keep going dude
Bros cheating the UA-cam algorithm and I couldn’t be happier
I’ve been waiting so long for a video like this.
lmage how crazy the sonic canon will be if Boomer the Turtle was picked over tails
This video is a work of art
There needs to be a Time Travel mod of Sonic 2 that follows the original plans.
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wood zone should've had badniks made out of actual wood
Awesome video! I really like long content
your music choices for this video were great! really liked the beat remixes. where did you find them? id like to listen to them some more
I’ll release them after I release my next 2 videos 👍
@@The1SunshineFeeleralright! sounds good
25:43 😭☠️☠️
Pardon the double post but one theory about the music i have;
The music used for Aquatic ruins could have originally been used for Sand Showers zone.
very subtle we can hear a 5-note leitmotif popularly used and parodied in Western (as in cowboys) media.
Aquatic ruins theme; ua-cam.com/video/AzoB6XXnea0/v-deo.html
The Good, the Bad and The Ugly leitmotif; ua-cam.com/video/hBD6s0bE45U/v-deo.html
However, as someone in the comments under the AR deconstruction video mentioned it could have been the Tarzan Scream mentioined. Considering AR is based in a jungle-y type of place and Tarzan did take place in a jungle too this could have also been the case.
However i personally thingk its more a reference to the The Good, The Bad and the Ugly considering how popular that song became, topping no.4 on the billboards at some point in time aswell as how heavily referenced that leitmotif in western (cowboys etc) media before the release of sonic 2.
The tarzan scream is ONLY known as the Tarzan scream. TGtBatU leitmotife is known known as THE western/cowboy leitmotif, or hell even referenced in areas that look like it could be the backdrop of a western cowboy film. Sand Showers looks like that with the Cacti, the rock formations in the background that resemble that of MONUMENT VALLEY Monument Valley- a location seen often in western cowboy films/media.
Interesting 🤔
I hate the prototype version of metropolis zone so glad it was fixed 😮
I just found this video and realized how underrated you are.
Medieval Time is a bad translation of Ancient Time
and there is no Bad Future, only Future Time
Making my place before this absolutely blows up lol
Bro this video is peak content🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
Keep up the good work bro
The music for Simon Wai prototype of Sonic 2 slow music is better sometimes and also Some different music from the prototype is better then the final Sonic 2. No pressure.
This was SO GOOD. A little jab at nostalgia critic there was funny I didn't see it coming. Looking forward to whats coming up. See you next game
I think when I was writing the script I was originally gonna put a “Why does it look like Vegas?!” when I got to the finalized Casino Night, but I forgot to put it in 😂
I think what you went with was MUCH better. Everyone was quoting the vegas line I'm glad you put in the inflatable hand women. Or the blowing into your hand and making a pumpkin appear@@The1SunshineFeeler
48:20 Oil Ocean’s music was the track intended for Sand Shower Zone
48:52 Also, track 10 isn’t Hidden Palace’s theme, if I remember correctly one of the developers stated that track 10 was supposed to be cutscreen music
I’ve heard from a UA-camr once that possibly Wood Zone, Dust Hill Zone, Hidden Palace, and Genocide City Zone could have more complete versions in a undiscovered beta build between Nick Arcade and Simon Wai. Just have to wait and see if a build like that ever does get leaked ✌️
underrated channel tbh
cool vids dude!!!! :)
57:59 this is the 1st time they met so maybe Tails didn’t get the oversized shoes and gloves until later. I also like the origins version a bit more because we actually get to see Tails’s bullies and Sonic helping Tails by stopping them.
Peak content
peak content as expected🔥🔥
That’s not what I was thinking when I was editing it 😂 but thanks!!!
25:23-25:57 What is bro doing...
born 2024 welcome back cybershell
Keep up the great work newcomer!
AOSTH and SatAM are great opposites and should both be appreciated. :)
1:01:27- 1:01:37
Wow! 😂 #waltdisney
How dare you not liking poor little Sonic Origins! You should be ashamed yourself for not liking Sonic Origins!
What?
@@sdFreereySarcasm perhaps?
15:50 Super Sayajin.
Good video 👍
Hey! This video was amazing! But I was wondering if you can do something like this for Sonic 3 (& Knuckles)?
Maybe some time in the future if more gets discovered about that game, but I feel like for now everything that could be said about that game has been said before and I have nothing to add :)
I’ve heard that the 2 player Mystic cave music was actually supposed to be the music used for Dust Hill/Sand Shower zone once :v
Don’t have any evidence to support this idea but just a single UA-cam video called “Dust Hill Act 1 music” which is literally just the 2 player Mythic Cave music. Though honestly the soundtrack does kinda have that outlandish Desert vibe to it
Tails sharing the same bank account with Sonic wasn't a good idea and which doesn't make sense for them to take a long time to remove it.
Actually Tails sharing the bank account despite just meeting Sonic was already a weird thing
24:30: That’s not a Nazi symbol. It’s the original Buddhist symbol, the Nazi symbol is the backwards version. Which makes sense actually. The Buddhist symbol shows a Z like Zen. :)
Yeah I’m aware, I just thought it was funny because anyone else would interpret it that way XD
@@The1SunshineFeeler Well ok lol, I'm glad to provide the footnote that the Buddhist symbol of peace, remains a living symbol, for forever. Completely regardless that the Nazi's made their own... backwards, hate-symbol, it doesn't affect the original Buddhist teachings of peace, from 2,600 years ago, and into the future. For example, Buddha statues have always been carved with the original symbol, on their chest. :)
Are there timestamps for the music names in the video I just watched this whole thing and did not realize I needed to look out for those, did not look at the desc till it was over
I’ll put some in there 👍
No hold tf up did you just casually drop that the guy who designed Segapede also designed Spyro? That is insane.
Good Video!
25:39 why’d you build a fat benis?
33:11 WAIT YOU CAN JUMP MID SPIN DASH?! 😳
nice video
45:28 why doesn’t tails have yellow arms
Oh crap! I forgot to point that out! It’s the same thing with Knuckles in the special stages if you plug Sonic 2 into Sonic & Knuckles. The reason is that their torsos are based on Sonic’s sprite, thus their arms share the different pale palette.
The "chinese" neocities site was actually a taiwanese one since the chinese were banned from using the internet.
6:15 Ummm actually they use the european releases 🤓🤓🤓
What’s the music at 20:00 ?
It’s something I made myself, I’ll start releasing some of my BGM when I reach enough subscribers:)
25:45 Least immature debug mode user
Lmao
you did not include a link to the sonic 2 mod, can you add it please?
@@Pichu718 forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/sonic-2-archives.41500/
@@The1SunshineFeeler ok thx