We've been programming in php for customers for over a decade. Since it's still being updated and runs very fast, we keep on using it. Also..when you program for many years in this language, it's so freakin' fast to build something really strong and safe..so no need for us to change in the coming years.
@Tiqo: I am very interested in programming in php but have never used it before. Can you give me direction where or how to start? Video, article etc will be appreciated. Thanks
@@jideafrica If you want to check out the symfony framework (that is used as a base for many others) SymfonyCasts is a great place to learn. The initial courses are free and worth trying out
If you live outside of first world countries then PHP should be your number 1 priority. i "wasted" a year learning React and trying getting a job with no results but could find one only after several months of learning PHP. It's also much easier to switch from JS/React to PHP than i expected
PHP is very dynamic in a way you can create a PHP program as full backend service (REST Api) or you can create program using PHP combining both frontend and backend. I've been using PHP for more than 7 years now i've worked in 4 different companies and mostly they're using PHP.
as well as javascript lol, if you learn PHP you have to learn javascript as well because you will use it for sure with PHP at the front-end, but while javascript can do what PHP do, then why we not save the time and learn only javascript to build the projects?
@@lionelthetechlead8839 I was once a Vue guy as Vue was shipped with Laravel. But since I was doing another project which already used React, I was forced to learn it. At beginning, I was reluctant to learn jsx, but ever since I'm more used to it, I feel it's superior compare to the template syntax used by Angular and Vue, because I only need to think and write in js. Also react hooks also simplify a lot of stuff. The ts support is also the main reason that I still use React.
I tech lead Lionel, I'm new to your channel. I stumbled on it because I'm learning to become a php/laravel developer. Today, my 2nd day of learning coming from front-end developer using javacript. However, so far I'm really loving laravel and while I'm learning and growing to become a full stack developer. I'm taking comfort in hearing your content knowing that learning php is the right move for job security, longevity in the industry and an amazing tech community. 😁🙌
I use PHP. The first time I got in touch with it was 2003. I had a break between 2008 and 2019. I don't like most of the developments around PHP: tons of frameworks, zillions of functions. It is still not able to manipulate arrays by a simple dot or comma separated key path. And it should be called isset instead of php. :)
@@lionelthetechlead8839 , yes. That was the point. And no, copying data takes too long. My function set from 2008, based on keypathes and referenced, is still fine and hyperfast.
@@MeinDeutschkurs sounds like you use it for data processing. PHP is primarily a web language so data processing isnt its core. However PHP 8 has JIT which will shift certain processes to machine code and run it low level which will boost computation speeds.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 , yes and no. In early days I made lots of websites. Today I abuse PHP to fire frame perfect changes to my streaming software, which accepts changes through a json API. Very unconventional, but extremely effective and flexible. For this I did some kind of a JIT JITTERER (in analogy to another compiler compiler) 😆
You are right with everything you say. I have enough information from you PHP advocates that PHP is an awesome choice. My issue is the documentation. I am learning PHP but my god the documentation is bad. I am learning JS as well and when I go to MDN docs I understand what's happening. With PHP it's the opposite.
Really? Give me a couple of sites where you are learning and I'll make a video on learning PHP easily. I find the documentation on JS more messy, especially since you need to know if you are in frontend or backend. running with vue, angular or react or node or node, light.
I think the only people who hate php...is the people who havent given it a proper chance. Really like it now I only prefer node for native json objects. vue + laravel/ vanilla php is so nice
You are showing your "youth and inexperience". Cobol, even with its "faults" (and what programming language does not have faults) is relevant and will continue to be so for many years to come. Having said that, I like PHP a lot!
Luckily the US still runs the social security system on cobol. But then again the US gov loves old school. Biden's like Cobol. More than 5 decades old. Barely functional yet somehow runs the country.
i codes by php language and created some project with laravel of php since 3 years ago, but now i am studying and developer by nodejs,with me, i assume ,php can is the best programming language to student or beginner and I learned many things from this language as OOP,MVC, handle build a web project singe page application restFul API by reactjs and laravel,it's really great
This is out of context but I think would be very cool to have as another video. Can you please out line the difference between programming and coding? I see a lot of articles online saying programming isn't coding when infact it is coding but not the other way round. Can you please correct me if I'm wrong?
Coding is a part of programming. Programming isn't about coding only. It's about about project designing, team management, problem solving, data managing, creative thinking, and more
Of course he dies! Therefore, you should learn Python so that PHP developers earn even more! Thank you for the video! Ruby is also dying, but my acquaintance, a rails developer, gets 10 times more than me on php. And all because of the fact that there are few developers in ruby.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Yes, I heard about there that not everything is as sweet as it seems ... and that a friend says "it's better to sit on php, it's much easier and there are no global problems that are much harder to solve than on php"
Yes PHP will dead but not very soon but will slowly dead , because new generation of engineers mostly start with Python , JavaScript or Go they don’t even touch PHP and another reason many boot camp schools they don’t teach PHP this mean that many students from those boot camps will start use only those languages , that they learn from boot camps to looking for a job. I myself used PHP since year 2006 and my current organization still use PHP too. If possible I still want PHP still exists for ever.
nobody ever started with PHP, they don't teach it because it's not 'institutional'. At the end of the day, things always flow to the less resistance and that is PHP.
At my uni I changed the curriculum from Java for web programming to PHP. Some students ask for node, I might update the course next year (in east Asia)
@@spencer5028 Nice. Java is too 1990s in the Era of servers. PHP tapes the lightweight and moves with the cloud. One issue I have with Node is that it mixes with frontend so people get confused. Will do a video on node.js.
We've been programming in php for customers for over a decade. Since it's still being updated and runs very fast, we keep on using it. Also..when you program for many years in this language, it's so freakin' fast to build something really strong and safe..so no need for us to change in the coming years.
@Tiqo: I am very interested in programming in php but have never used it before. Can you give me direction where or how to start? Video, article etc will be appreciated. Thanks
@@jideafrica UA-cam is your best friend ;-)
what job opportunities online ?
@@jideafrica If you want to check out the symfony framework (that is used as a base for many others) SymfonyCasts is a great place to learn. The initial courses are free and worth trying out
The quality of YT material is so good. Do you guys want me to do the absolutely 101 of PHP?
If you live outside of first world countries then PHP should be your number 1 priority. i "wasted" a year learning React and trying getting a job with no results but could find one only after several months of learning PHP. It's also much easier to switch from JS/React to PHP than i expected
Flask : hold my bear.
@@radaboy5755 Python is for kids
@@malcomgreen4747 php is for boomers.
@@radaboy5755 for senior developers, beginners they work under them
Bro i am in a same situation. I realized that i need to star with elephant . Give me some recomandations please (COURSES SYMFONY OR LARA..?
I spent many years in PHP. it's a lovely language and super dynamic.
me too, very powerfull
PHP, lightweight and powerful.
Php pays my bills! I really enjoy coding in php.. In Spain is widely used, specially Symfony and Laravel
right on! tell it as it is!
PHP is very dynamic in a way you can create a PHP program as full backend service (REST Api) or you can create program using PHP combining both frontend and backend. I've been using PHP for more than 7 years now i've worked in 4 different companies and mostly they're using PHP.
as well as javascript lol, if you learn PHP you have to learn javascript as well because you will use it for sure with PHP at the front-end, but while javascript can do what PHP do, then why we not save the time and learn only javascript to build the projects?
@@Anas_Alaqeel cuz' of demands in a region. Php+Js is more prominent in some regions if you are targeting fullstack position.
PHP powers 90% of the web.
Long live the king. PHP. 👑
Hail to the king
Coal power 60% of the world. Does it make the king ?
@@shuttereff3ct593 ask the people it powers.
@@shuttereff3ct593 Think about not having Coal as from tomorrow. So Yes, in that case it's a King.
@@shuttereff3ct593 why do you compare coal with PHP ? Does PHP pollute more that another technology?
love watching you ....because you are talking about PHP in 22 more power to you and PHP.
Great point php has treated me well over the years. It gets the job done
I think this question can be further divided as whether you want to go frontend or backend. Frontend: React, Vue, Next, Nuxt. Backend: php, node, go.
Frontend is getting into a bit of a problem with how complex the frameworks are. I'm a vue.js person, but I don't like how complex it gets
@@lionelthetechlead8839 I was once a Vue guy as Vue was shipped with Laravel. But since I was doing another project which already used React, I was forced to learn it. At beginning, I was reluctant to learn jsx, but ever since I'm more used to it, I feel it's superior compare to the template syntax used by Angular and Vue, because I only need to think and write in js. Also react hooks also simplify a lot of stuff. The ts support is also the main reason that I still use React.
@@wilsonwg Try svelte
Back end
I tech lead Lionel, I'm new to your channel. I stumbled on it because I'm learning to become a php/laravel developer. Today, my 2nd day of learning coming from front-end developer using javacript. However, so far I'm really loving laravel and while I'm learning and growing to become a full stack developer. I'm taking comfort in hearing your content knowing that learning php is the right move for job security, longevity in the industry and an amazing tech community. 😁🙌
I use PHP. The first time I got in touch with it was 2003. I had a break between 2008 and 2019. I don't like most of the developments around PHP: tons of frameworks, zillions of functions. It is still not able to manipulate arrays by a simple dot or comma separated key path. And it should be called isset instead of php. :)
Use a framework, they straighten all that stuff. Have you seen js? You got to splice an array.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 , yes. That was the point. And no, copying data takes too long. My function set from 2008, based on keypathes and referenced, is still fine and hyperfast.
@@MeinDeutschkurs sounds like you use it for data processing. PHP is primarily a web language so data processing isnt its core. However PHP 8 has JIT which will shift certain processes to machine code and run it low level which will boost computation speeds.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 , yes and no. In early days I made lots of websites. Today I abuse PHP to fire frame perfect changes to my streaming software, which accepts changes through a json API. Very unconventional, but extremely effective and flexible. For this I did some kind of a JIT JITTERER (in analogy to another compiler compiler) 😆
@@MeinDeutschkurs interesting! I should do a series where I go through cool and unconventional way PHP is used.
You are right with everything you say. I have enough information from you PHP advocates that PHP is an awesome choice. My issue is the documentation. I am learning PHP but my god the documentation is bad. I am learning JS as well and when I go to MDN docs I understand what's happening. With PHP it's the opposite.
Really? Give me a couple of sites where you are learning and I'll make a video on learning PHP easily. I find the documentation on JS more messy, especially since you need to know if you are in frontend or backend. running with vue, angular or react or node or node, light.
I agree with you 100% on PHP doc, it's awful.
PHP has the best documentation out there
@@TeckTales send me examples!
I think the only people who hate php...is the people who havent given it a proper chance. Really like it now
I only prefer node for native json objects.
vue + laravel/ vanilla php is so nice
It's been getting better and better
I'm actually surprised that even to these days PHP is a thing. I'm considering to start learning it.
why people try to replace php by python? python is inferior in many aspects including speed, it does not make sense to me
the other way round is also true :) for other reasons.
because of Django ?
According to Slash data the number of php developers grew fastest between Q1 and Q3 2021
I'm sure they under count PHP developers. There are a lot of casual PHP developers.
You are showing your "youth and inexperience". Cobol, even with its "faults" (and what programming language does not have faults) is relevant and will continue to be so for many years to come. Having said that, I like PHP a lot!
Luckily the US still runs the social security system on cobol. But then again the US gov loves old school. Biden's like Cobol. More than 5 decades old. Barely functional yet somehow runs the country.
PHP revolutionized the web, and with composer and laravel it's up to modern standards again
The language will never die
i codes by php language and created some project with laravel of php since 3 years ago, but now i am studying and developer by nodejs,with me, i assume ,php can is the best programming language to student or beginner and I learned many things from this language as OOP,MVC, handle build a web project singe page application restFul API by reactjs and laravel,it's really great
Generally websites look like websites. That's right indeed.
Same thing they said about JavaScript, Java, and c++
Then , What are the core concepts that every entry php dev should cover
from 74% of all websites in 2011 to 80% in 2022, I say it is dying. It is dying because people are spending more time on apps and less on websites.
people spend time on the top 20 apps. That's not changing
Thanks mate! Great explanation!
Thank you, Lionel.
I am a PHP developer / Laravel and symfony, who is looking for work.
This is out of context but I think would be very cool to have as another video. Can you please out line the difference between programming and coding?
I see a lot of articles online saying programming isn't coding when infact it is coding but not the other way round. Can you please correct me if I'm wrong?
Coding is a part of programming. Programming isn't about coding only. It's about about project designing, team management, problem solving, data managing, creative thinking, and more
Thanks for this video. It cleared my confusion.
Ur welcome.
I've been using a Galaxy S9 for nearly 4 years and I see no reason to upgrade... I also use php almost daily.
exactly the point. The incremental value is decreasing.
There can only be one techlead😅😂
Just kiddin.
Awesome video
8.3php
You make a great point
Is PHP dead? Ha, PHP dies every single request. And will continue to do so. Long live PHP!
its still massive where i come from... you need PHP..
people tend to use reacjs for font and build an api system with next or node in these day ... i believe php will not gonna remain its users
Have you tried react?
@@lionelthetechlead8839 its my job currently... i used to build an api system with lumen but those thing is replacing now
Of course he dies! Therefore, you should learn Python so that PHP developers earn even more! Thank you for the video! Ruby is also dying, but my acquaintance, a rails developer, gets 10 times more than me on php. And all because of the fact that there are few developers in ruby.
You are actually right. I just quoted work on Ruby consulting and it's x3 the rates because there's nobody else to do it.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Sometimes I think about moving into ruby development, more demand and more money...
@@Edvard-Aliev i only do it for a lot more money due to all the pain of rails magic.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Yes, I heard about there that not everything is as sweet as it seems ... and that a friend says "it's better to sit on php, it's much easier and there are no global problems that are much harder to solve than on php"
@@Edvard-Aliev yes. I better not do a video on ruby we already yave our hands full with the python ppl!!!
87% of the internet runs on PHP, which only means there are TONS of jobs out there! 😉
major companies not including google facebook aws, so I turned go and rust
Major companies use many different technology stacks. If react and angular are anything to go by, big doesn't always mean better.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 speaking of major companies, Instagram recently added PHP as one of the technology that it is using.
No, it's not. I just saved you 10 minutes.
Yes PHP will dead but not very soon but will slowly dead , because new generation of engineers mostly start with Python , JavaScript or Go they don’t even touch PHP and another reason many boot camp schools they don’t teach PHP this mean that many students from those boot camps will start use only those languages , that they learn from boot camps to looking for a job.
I myself used PHP since year 2006 and my current organization still use PHP too. If possible I still want PHP still exists for ever.
nobody ever started with PHP, they don't teach it because it's not 'institutional'. At the end of the day, things always flow to the less resistance and that is PHP.
Actually at my Uni in Italy web developing course is based on HTML/CSS and PHP
At my uni I changed the curriculum from Java for web programming to PHP. Some students ask for node, I might update the course next year (in east Asia)
@@spencer5028 Nice. Java is too 1990s in the Era of servers. PHP tapes the lightweight and moves with the cloud. One issue I have with Node is that it mixes with frontend so people get confused. Will do a video on node.js.
@@emanueledelmonte803 teacher at my course literally told me it was pointless to learn PHP. it turned out to be the most used language in my country
Year 2080: Is PHP dead in 2080?
You'll probably be before PHP in 2080!
S8 ACTIVE IS THE BEST PHONE ON THE MARKET!!!
sorry Lionel, but I had a hand held phone in 1995. Motorola brick.;)😁
hahaha. we've certain come a long way since.
very nice video very nice points but php is a boomer language and nobody will change my mind
Спасибо
shh, should have said yes its dead...more $ for us.